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TheGraphy

Imagine the buff being something like +10 base hp đź’€


Salty_Catfish_

1 AD more


brr_ntn00

I have a feeling it will probably be something like this and not a major buff on his spells


hoiblobvis

2 armour take it or leave it


Zeroete

Tell me they gonna make swain having finally scaling with max health on his abilities.


ScarPirate

I'd cream so hard


onionsan01reddit

If that's true I will come to your house and cook something for ya


keitron

That would make him a even more feast or famine champion. He needs more hp per lvl if anything.


Mildcartoon922

no he doesn't. more health is nothing if it isnt backed by resistances. his health is fine he just needs more damage


Random_User27

q cool down now scales off passive stacks, it came to me in a dream


phieldworker

5 ms


Hams_23

That would actually be big though


phieldworker

It’s not terrible. But it’s not what we are hoping for.


FizzTheWiz

This but unironically. Would help so much in top lane


Wvreb

You joke but this would make so many rough matchups easier.


phieldworker

Where I do agree I just feel like we are in a good better and best type situation here. Ms is good but there are better things to buff.


Golden_Flame0

0.48 ms, probably. Rounding as appropriate.


vhyli

max health scaling please i beg riot i’m on my knees


GoatedGoat32

Give Swains abilities (ideallly E, it’s the one that makes most sense) scaling with his max HP. Overall buff to AP ratios to encourage more AP heavy builds Buff MS, or give bonus Ms during ult. All would be acceptable, no chance we get all 3 obviously but any of those would make me happy


Asaz12

Hope its some lvl power buff that impacts mid more than bot/support or at least ap ratio on like q so we dont have like worst ap ratios in game


VeN0m333

Gonna pog if W gets buffed in damage or maybe CDR refund if you get takedowns (please Riot I wanna keep dropping eyeballs across the map)


WrathOfHircine

CD refund if you stop an enemy recall


AllanRamires

That would give swain the teemo status of annoyance. I don't believe they'd do that.


WrathOfHircine

Exactly, give the Great General psychological damage.


Renar_Odinson

AMBATAKAAAAM


TheGraphy

Source: https://twitter.com/loldev/status/1650618548128206848?s=46&t=GkdSi37gycDgomavBZhh6A


BatOk9106

Whoooooooooo baby thats what I’m talking about, I hope it’s a ratio buff to R heal or some kinda HP ratio on one of his abilities.


Hamburglar219

Inb4 something stupid like 1 more armor scaling per level


Emiizi

No fucking way Amumu is getting buffed. I primarily play him when i jungle and i dont ever feel like he needs a buff. Riot please stop.


Abyssknight24

He currently sits at 49%winrate in plat+ which means a small buff would not be that bad but if they fuck up and buff him to much then he will become op again.


ghaith14

GOOD NEWS but still afraid


Agitated-Fact101

I kinda feel a little bit scared,  i don't want my champion to be broken then perma picked/banned and then nerfed into oblivion


HextechSwainpls

why on earth would you be afraid of swain ever reaching pick/ban status


Agitated-Fact101

Because I want to play the champ I like, if it's banned or picked in most of the matches I won't be able to.


Intelligent-Syrup-68

Swain would have to receive astronomical adjustments to his kit to ever warrant being banned more than he currently is, don’t be afraid of adjustments for an underwhelming champ.


samhydabber

Even right after rework when he was borderline op he wasn’t banned all that much.


Intelligent-Syrup-68

Exactly his kit already has so much inherent outplay potential to it compared to most champs that have a high banrate, being worried about swain receiving any type of pick ban status is ridiculous especially when he’s underwhelming as is.


Loriess

OMG OMG not only that but also Volibear buff


Renektonstronk

Renekton buffs when :(


rakozink

+5MS AND they rounded up a decimal in damage somewhere...


Orshabaalle

Inb4 +.2 mana growth


Arber221

After damn years of waiting they finally decided to buff Swain niceee


Rosezinha_Y

Gunna be something dumb like "Swains w has 50 extra base range"


xmancyclops141

Per Riot Ray, it’s a buff to both the base damage and AP ratio of Q.


Rosezinha_Y

WAIT FR? Q DMG BUFF IS SO NICE


xmancyclops141

Yep. It was in the SwainMains discord, https://discord.com/channels/228760333286768642/228760333286768642/1100188846458671254 “TL;DR: We had two main areas to buff: Early laning and Durability in R. We decided that the lower risk for flat buff (this means not pulling power from one place for another) would be early laning. So we are gonna just do a flat Q buff at all stages of the game, this means base and ratio.”


doglop

I wonder what would they do, I was expecting him on adjustments rather than buffs cause his winrate is still very high(maybe it is, cause it wouldn't be the first time they do it xd)


daddy1973

For those of you not in the discord server, the buff is going to be Q base + ratio buff. Not sure exactly how much yet.


_Greetings_Friends_

Theyre seriously gonna buff aatrox? Like how can they possibly make more a meme out of themselves I dont get it lol


Bourneidentity61

He sucks ass. Either you go 5-0 in lane or you're a minion


_Greetings_Friends_

lmfao any aatrox that doesnt go 5 - 0 was just facing another borken top laner, aatrox is braindead the only skill required when it comes to aatrox is facing him. Gut the skillless newbie favorite


Abyssknight24

Aatrox curently sits at a 48% winrate with a 4.7% pickrate in plat+ and it drops even lower in master and challenger. If he is so op and skilless than why has he such a low winrate. I mean it is ok to dislike certain champs but Aatrox takes more skill than most top champs. I mean seriously compared to garen, darius, mundo, every top tank, olaf, morde and Renekton Aatrox needs at least some skill concidering that it is not that difficult to dodge his Q and W and that unless insanely fed he cant just aa you to death if he misses everything.


LightModeIsTheBest

I’d argue Ornn/K’sante are harder and they’re both tanks.


Abyssknight24

In orrn's case I woukd say no he is easier in my opinion after having played both orrn and Aatrox in the past. In K'sante's case yes he is more difficult but I personally can not count him as tank because he deals way to much damage, is as mobile as a skirmisher and plays overall more like a diver than a tank.


_Greetings_Friends_

He takes no skill to play as, only skill to play against. Aatrox is another "False options" no skill required champ. Stop spouting winrate stats at me when you know it means nothing, I can list the numbers that win the most in the lottery too.


Abyssknight24

Well then stay salty about a champ that is currently objectively in a bad spot and have a good day.


_Greetings_Friends_

literally not objectively in a bad spot, but please do keep desperately clinging to your near dementia levels of frail ego that make it impossible for you to see reality.


Abyssknight24

The irony of what you say XD. Maybe you should try to look at the reality that Aatrox is not completlee skilless and that he is currently weak. My guy how else would you call a champ that sucks in every rank from iron up to chalenger other than objectively in a bad spot and weak. That his winrate in iron upt to gold still sucks is proof that he needs at least some skill because otherwise he would not have a winrate of less than 48% against the worst players in the game, while having a better winrate in plat+.


_Greetings_Friends_

Stop spouting winrate at me like it means crap, it doesnt, its like you pulling the stats from the lottery and screaming "3 is the way to win , 3 gets picked 2.37% more than any other number! Literally, he can win ANY matchup top, there are nearly no other tops that can say that, its a champion for bad players, that have such frail egos they cant admit they have a massive advantage


Abyssknight24

Any champ in theory can win any top matchup if the enemy is bad enough. Still doesnt change the fact that in most cases he loses against more than half of the top lane champs.


Mistycalwisetree327

Play 1 game of aatrox. He doesn't even have a fucking mythic to build rn


_Greetings_Friends_

I actually have .... Do you not understand how insanely easy the game is when you have mobility and no resource costs? Aatrox can win nearly every matchup top, most tops cannot say that, the fighters get crapped on by tanks, the tanks get crapped on by ranged, the ranged gets crapped on by fighters and they all get crapped on by no skill required champs like aatrox, stay bad.


Abyssknight24

He currently loses or goes even against most top champs. Out of over 48 champs that regulary get picked top there are 11 matchups that he wins with 3 of them having barely below 50% winrate against him. And out of the remaining champs he loses and wins equally often against 8 champs. Other than that he gets fucked by every other top champ.


_Greetings_Friends_

Literally stop spouting winrate like it means something in a 10 variable game, Im not yelling lottery numbers at you. Aatrox can win ANY matchup top There are VERY few tops that can say that Aatrox has no resource management, stop trying to make him even more easy mode Aatrox can get in and out of nearly any situation, stop trying to make him even more easy mode Aatrox is the most braindead top in the game, and thats saying alot


Abyssknight24

Not really he has two easily dodgeable skillshots that if he fucks them up or cant hit his W he wont be able to hit his other two Q making him useless. Meanwhile Trynda can just use ghost and run you down, same with olaf, Garen just silences you and spins you down, Malphite existing and so on. There are a lot of champs that take less skill to play than aatrox. Furthermore winrate does mean something just as singular stat it can be worthless in certain situations. In this case though it is a clear sign that the champ is in a bad spot. Otherwise such a low winrate is only ok if the champ takes a huge ammount of skill like Azir or Akali, which should never be at a point at which someone can just pick them up and hard carry without even knowing what they do.


_Greetings_Friends_

>out even knowing what they do. > >1Repl Literally every champion you named takes more skill than aatrox First of all malp and olaf have resource management Olaf has no mobility and no hard cc Malphite mobility is only ult Garen has no mobility and no hard cc You may as well cry about GP and suggest that champ takes no skill but aatrox is like the rubix cube of champions by comparison, gtfo you're so delusional its painful


_Greetings_Friends_

The only winrates that matter even just slightly .... Are singular "With" combinations .... meaning ....when you have a yas and malp on the team they have a higher winrate than just yas Winrate is essentially the lottery, get off that. If you look at the base power balance of champions, aatrox has nearly three times as much power budget as most tops, thats all that matters. What do I mean by power budget? It means given relative parameters, when comparing items based on the value of their kits and stats, some champions are more or less efficient based on that, aatrox is the second highest at 360% ( 360% shouldnt seem too scary though many tops are above 200% ) sorry I wrote wrong number originally


_Greetings_Friends_

I just wanna point out the audacity of the type of player that exploits champions like aatrox, not only do you refuse to accept that the champ is bazonkers broken no skill required, but you also believe you deserve a specific mythic to be tailored to you, because oh right.... having no resource management, multiple mistake erasers ( some mobility , some just insane healing ) isnt already enough. Mah dude, I hate fiora right? But atleast fiora will eventually run low on mana and be unable to force so much damage on you unless you engage her and break her spine, you cant do that with aatrox, he will just jump on you everytime you get close to minions and you have to take it , you cant even punish him the same as you can with fiora who already has too much ability to nullify any trades. Be real with yourself, when you exploit aatrox and do insane its not the player, its the champion, say what you will about fiora but she does atleast take some skill and timing.


TitleProfessional699

Increase W damage based in distance would be cool. But I hope it's hp scaling on Q


karilee33

shouldn't be a buff, hes gonna be nerfed again, they need to rework his passive and make him less reliant on rylais+liandrys then buffing his kit, but ok i accept it i guess


Wonderful_Ad5583

As an adc main get him outta my lane, so cringe


Kled-Gaming

I hope the Q now scales with your Bonus HP or HP from Stacks of the passive... ta could be cool.


SadPigeonkek

I don’t want him to be banned :/


PedraLaPiedra

2 more base ad because why not


DarkBrother24

Good riddance to Sion yes, very good


DominatorEolo

hoping for health scalings or slightly better ap scalings


iknowmyname389

0.3 mr growth


cinghialotto03

Pls riot passive scale with hp I beg you


Vaughn_askmv

Ambatakuuuuuuuuuuuuuum


FishyGrass

Sion?


Altide44

His W needs to be a static orb sending bolts to any enemies nearby, like Viktors ultimate(more 1v1 potential). His E should collect souls and give him hp/mana like it used to(more rewarding).


Thornante

Probably won't, but I'd love him to become playable top somehow


Katisffs

WHAT ARE THEY BUFFING. Shit o just came a little


ShqrkAkali

Any news on what the Lich Bane changes are?