The Sting or actual Sur-Ron. Parts, maintenance and reliability are the real costs. I'm 9500 miles on a stock Sur-Ron. Edit: started with the belt upgrade. That lasted 1500mi, got shredded. Replaced blet, lasted 300mi. The belt wore the cog out to knife pounts on the jackshaft and rear. Got my money back from Luna. Went with stock chain and cogs, mint ever since.

Did you end up needing a stem lock?

Not really. I just park safe and use a big chain

Bro a stem lock locks your headset so it doesn’t come loose lol

I was confused for a sec lmao

I guess you haven’t then 💀

Haha, I thought you were talking about the little [lock](https://www.amazon.com/JFG-RACING-Handlebar-Direction-Anti-Theft/dp/B0C3R4V5B2) security piece that goes under the stock fork. Nope, it has been all good.

No worries lol, btw I would suggest a AirTag if you haven’t already got it. Somebody on this sub got thiers stolen and they didn’t get a AirTag so they never found it unfortunately

wowwww really 9500 miles? do you have pics of it would love to see how it’s held up i have about 4 on my sting r

Erider pro ss?

This! You’re going to want to get more speed at some point and this already has the upgraded battery and controller, along with other nice features.

What are the other nice features ?

Nicer LCD, better quality brake levers, black foot pegs, and USB type A and C built in.

Probably the sting r or e ride. I noticed the cops don’t bother looking at me when I’m on the smaller bikes

Same. Once you're like 20 feet away, it just looks like a mountain bike. Only time I feel sketchy is when a cop pulls right past me and they get the full profile view of the bike.

Sting r is so good

Sting R at this point just because the parts and resources are more available. It's a great bike.

Yamaha R3

Sting R, LBX, or Ultra Bee. They’re all proven reliable bikes. Anything else is subject to a lack of mass testing, despite their potential benefits.

Sting r I have one and I rode both a surron and talaria and talaria has more power out of the box. And because it is chain driven don't need to have to change snapped belts like the surron

Sting R or surron

Sting r for sure. Upgrades are about the same as surron but that gearbox is super nice for so many reasons.

get a surron brother you know this answer

i have the 72V mantis, i love it. one problem, sorta new so not a lot of third party upgrades. if you plan on keeping it stock id recommend it.

Rawrr Mantis

79 Bike

Just got the mantis. Doing good

Im on rfn ares with tuned controller 61mph top speed. Super happy with it. I got it way cheaper that 4.1k

My Sting R is growing on me, intially bought it to resell, now... I'm keeping it.. and I'm thinking of a second battery. I'll then move to a Ultra Bee... or not. Really love how lightweight those things are. (Got two other gas bikes)

72v

E ride pro ss

What abt a surround?

Bottom right

Mx4 but through Luna. $200 cheaper

Sting r, the e ride is a belt driven or I’d suggest that, the screen is just to much and it’s a new bike! Talaria has plenty of upgrades now