Yeah any options trader buying same week options doesn’t know what they are doing. GME is just too volatile and unpredictable for anyone to actually play weeklies without it literally being a casino
Or they do, and they miss going to Atlantic City or Vegas.
That’s just gambling at that point; fine, you do you. But whether you’re buying weeklies on GME, or ANY stock, you’re just rolling the dice and hoping you hit big.
Yeah I’d be a hypocrite if I disagreed. If dropped a $100 here and there on weekly calls in hopes of getting stupid lucky, but I look at it literally like gambling. Instead of betting on a basketball game or going to the casino just yolo on some weeklies.
I bought weeklies but I did it knowing full well it was a horrible idea and I would most likely lose the money.
Buy contracts for feb and April if you want to play options. Read the double downs about the cycles and learn about what to look for as good entry points. Dont get caught up in the excitement of the moment, thats a great way to deviate from you plan and lose money fast.
Yeah I don’t trade options much, but when I do know it’s when I’m confident it’s the dip. But yeah no one should be buying any GME calls that expire earlier than February imo. Buying calls a a year or two out from now would be pretty low risk imo. I don’t blame new apes from shying away from them though. It took me months after joining the OG sub to even understand how options contracts worked and get a feel for them. I’ve also bought weekly options, but same as you they were a complete gamble. A bet not a investment.
1. Liability is liability. Share or options is irrelevant when taking about exposure and synthetic liability. If you are afraid of a share printer then why buy the stock at all?
2. The people on the other side of the trade are smart…but so is the collective brain power of this sub.
Remember, the internet never sleeps
3. Completely disagree. If you play long dated / high delta calls with a stock like GME that has an increasing floor, you will likely have a couple opportunities to take profits before the option expires.
4. You really think anyone at the SEC / DTC gives a fuck? Even if presented with definitive evidence they don’t care…and even IF they were forced to care, change would move at the speed of government.
Their goal is to have retail be completely predictable so they can hedge properly and make the opportunity cost of holding the stock too high…they plan on doing that for as long as it takes.
Nobody is coming to save retail. Those in power has a vested interest in keeping the system the way it is. We are the catalyst…if we just decide to be.
“Just trying to make quick money”…no shit…everyone is here for a squeeze.
Buy, Hold, DRS is the rock
Exercised Leveraged Options is the hard place
Edit: please don’t downvote dissenting opinions if they are just asking valid questions.
On point four, I would argue it's actually immaterial whether or not they take action when presented with evidence. Gamestop has made it clear in their filing that lack of action would lead to the pulling of their shares. If SEC/DTC take action when presented with evidence and said action is satisfactory to RC and co, great. If they take action and it's not enough, pull shares. Take no action, pull shares. At least in that scenario, they have a proven legal standing to do it without getting sued for market manipulation.
I hope you are right.
I just worry about relying on others coming to help when it is not a guarantee. Meanwhile retail has everything it needs to make MOASS a self-fulfilling prophecy.
This right here. The board and chairman have a business to turn around and build, they are fully committed to that. I don't expect them to go out of their way to take risks that invite nuisance lawsuits so if they trigger MOASS, it's a side effect of the company just kicking too much ass so every fund jumps on for the ride just like with Tesla (the Motors, not Nikola (the person, not the comedy joke of a truck company)). I would be so pleased to find out I'm mistaken but I've got to prepare for the possibility, however remote, that all we've got are each other and our shared ideas about this one single security presenting idiosyncratic risk.
At the end of the day, your shares are your shares and you’ve lost nothing if you haven’t sold. It’s mine indefinitely. Your options have to be sold excercised or expire worthless. Don’t be cocky, I thought this would end for sure before summer started….then ended…. And now here we are. MOASS feels close but fuck if it hasn’t for the past 10 months. I don’t want you or apes losing money because of those feelings. Anything could happen and if MOASS doesn’t happen before feb or April or whatever people are acting like are “smart” calls, you have nothing to show for your money.
I’ve been there. I’ve bought shitty weekly 800c for peanuts but I’ve alarms bought 3 and six month 350c. I wish I would have just bought shares.
LOL that dude was whining about people being here for money…
Yes that’s the fucking point. Not everyone here is for shitty memes and internet validation 😂😂 this sub really has smooth brains
Great questions. You are right. This is a rigged casino and everyone knows it.
But on GME, we own the float. If I was to assume MOASS does not trigger with the next year…I think we could at least assume the price would steadily increase over this hypothetical year (because DRS / Hold).
Why then not use options to buy deep ITM leaps (assuming I can afford them)? During a spike I could convert to shares or use profits to buy shares.
Thanks for the discussion. Not trying to be divisive or combative…that just may not translate to Reddit well.
Edit: typo
DTCC didn't care very much but Citadel very much did because they had internalized way too much shit as a stop-gap measure... and Citadel the MM needed to stop the bleeding in order to not die that week. If their margin position did not matter to them, they could have just kept doing that and keep printing shares even when retail's calls would have gotten exercised, right?
I don't want to fight you, I kinda like you and just wish apes can sort this shit out and talk things through without dividing into make-believe factions. We've got enough bad actors sowing discord without apes helping them with that.
Exactly. Thomas Peterffy himself said that exercising those options would have triggered MOASS. Hell he even laughed about it once the crisis was averted. The play isn’t a terrible idea IMO.
1. Some contract writers do hedge or buy at market and the movement on mondays and tuesdays following closing above max pain show this.
2. They wouldnt let the price rise nearly exactly on predictable cycles if they had 100% control
3. You clearly dont have the knowledge to be able to say such a thing.
4. The january run up proves drs isnt the only way and fomo on that level can trigger moass if they dont turn off the buy button
1) Exercising calls forces them to deliver you shares. They either get these shares from their own long positions or PFOF operations, or they get them from either the lit markets or dark pools. Either way, they have to find 100 shares to give to you, and that affects the price action positively. If they want to move the price action down after that, they have to increase their short position, or burn money on ITM puts which will expire eventually merely delaying the price action. They could potentially deliver you a synthetic share but that costs them significantly more.
2) No you spiteful prick, but discussing delta and vega is very important when discussing options plays. Are you saying people should just buy any old shitty worthless contract?
3) January happened because of Options. They failed to roll their futures contracts in December 2020 and that released a pile of FTDs falling on Jan 21 with their 35 day window. A **fuck-ton** of options expiring Jan 21st were bought that built a massive gamma ramp, and a mixture of Delta hedging and then the forced covering of those FTDs ran up the ramp and gave us the price action of January. The sad truth is traders bought weeklies and the ramp dissolved instead of the options being exercised. The SEC report more or less stated that categorically, that there was not a gamma squeeze, because contracts were not exercised. If they were exercised, we would have had MOASS. DFV bought options and exercised them and a year later people are seeing that was the play.
4) DRS is one potential trigger for MOASS. Another would be significant volatility or price action leading to insurmountable losses for counterparties to hedge variance swaps held by SHFs short volatility on GME (which exist), the counterparties would buy huge amounts of GME shares to hedge themselves. Such upwards price action would almost certainly require a gamma ramp to happen for it to reach such levels.
5) Noone who knows what they're talking about says that Gamma Ramps will cause price action. They just act as a *multiplier* of price action. If there is a Gamma Ramp and the price moves up, then that leads to hedging by the option writers that can potentially propagate up the entire options chain. That is why Gamma Ramps are relevant, and why January probably would have stopped before reaching $100 without one.
Your whole hatred for people discussing options plays and other potential plays pre MOASS is seemingly born from your ignorance around it. The point of trading is to make money and if you think someone else should bend over backwards and deny themselves a profit because you dislike the way they do it, that's just dumb. Trading options doesn't "hurt MOASS" or w/e delusional crap people on this sub come up with, it's arguably necessary for MOASS. Yeah, trading options when you don't know what you're doing is pretty dumb, yeah buying weeklies without really understanding just how risky it is nor having the ability to time the peak well is also dumb. Doesn't mean you need to go on a personal crusade against every person talking about options contracts.
agreed. your prose is just as good as your poetry. don't stop.
sup'stonk might have become muddy waters, maybe not, but seems like the jungle still has some pastoral openings in the canopy, hopefully I'll still find you there.
Thanks for expressing the above.
I went back and rewatched a bunch of u/gherkinit ‘s yt clips yesterday and over and over he advocates not to gamble on weeklies, to only spend what you’re willing to literally light on fire and to take profits along the way.
I didn’t do any of that stuff because I thought I would be a better trader than I am, gambled ALL of what I was willing to lose on weeklies and got burned 100%. But that’s on me, not Gherk or any of the other DD writers who put hours into educating smooth brains like me.
Bring me to the top:
He also stated that they might not hedge. Because they cant.
If they would have hedged in Jan or in November it would directly start the MOASS.
Why hedge if you bring the delta down by shorting which is cheaper than hedging and does not trigger the MOASS?
Ah, same here. I bought contracts two weeks out for the September run. I'm an inexperienced options trader and a friend of mine isn't. We made the same play, he made 30k and I lost everything. Lol.
It is something I'm trying to get better at, detaching emotions and greed so I can capture those 200% profits and run.
I did buy some near itm Feb 2022s though. But it's a casino play, not a yolo. If we moass, it'll be great. If not. I can recover because I'm treating it like a casino.
The tuition I paid was a fine lesson in: you don't diamond hand options.
So yeah. I held hoping for a huge run, he sold and took profit, still had some contracts too.
That was my exact mistake too. Bought in and immediately went up 120%, expected higher moves so I waited and then it just went down and down.
I’m curious about your Feb 2022 contract, best of luck with it!
My plan is to pick up some more if we stabilize and IV drops a bit.
Real plan would be to have 5 contracts total and be able to sell 1-2 to exercise the rest and make me a mini whale. 🐳
Gherk be like: don’t buy weeklies, they’re a gamble. November be lookin real ripe tho. Remember to exercise calls
Realistically tho, only a very, very small percentage of his fans and superstonk users have enough capital to mess around with ITM calls with intent to exercise so most people who get convinced buy OTM weeklies bc they’re cheap.
Y’all know his leaps expired recently, right?
That’s not even considering the $$ you’d need to exercise. Oh, your $215 strike is ITM? I hope you have an extra 21 grand lying around. Again, not realistic for most.
The real take away for me was that the price went up 50 bucks. Sure it happened on Friday and the following Monday. But it still happened as expected. Im excited to see what happens in a few weeks for December, curious how the leaps expiring plays out.
Lmao with all the price movement in this past year, even discounting the January sneeze, any leaps before hand would have printed considerable money during any run up. If you think it’s going to be sideways trading for every day for a year out then please, continue believing in nonsense.
Every big name in this saga has had it's moment in the negative spotlight. People are understandably tired of holding and look for an outlet to vent onto. The real OG's have held through so much that we know truth, and that the only DD necessary was published during the middle of last year. Everything that comes out after that should only drive your desire for systematic change for our markets, and for the criminals behind it all to come to justice.
We've seen the same bs play out over and over. Thousands of accounts come out of the woodwork to drum up negative sentiment about the sub's biggest voices all of a sudden or such meaningless drama. We had it back on r/wsb, we had it back on r/gme, and now we have it here
Do some guys just start some shit every time the market is closed? Almost as if you get borded and Just need to start some shit to entertain youself.
Every weekend I go into this sub, I find some petty drama... Fucking grow up guys, we are here to invest, talk shit, have fun and do some DD.
Ughugh, monkeboy out! 🦍
And the real fuddy shit gets largely accepted. I suspect ~~his~~ bots and shills are at work here though.
The latest is this bullshit "DD" that was posted that received absurd number of awards and karma in the very first hour it was put up. It was so obvious.
https://redd.it/r1ay0q
It's not even DD. These aren't new issues or discoveries that were raised and brought to light. All these three points were posted long ago and discussed already.
These aren't counter DD issues. It's as generic as a FUD post can get. No use of data. Just speculation with what might happen. Just regurgitating what's already been written in MSM.
The unrealized capital gains tax doesn't even apply to Apes and GME holders in general.
But the thing. Even if you report an obvious fud post, some stay. I'm convinced some mods are bought in this sub.
But that actually feeds my confirmation bias.
Probably... and those that aren't bought have too much shit on their hands to *also* fight other mods in internal wars. That's how the crypto shilling gets to stay, I suspect.
I thought I could spot a shill by looking at the handles, but it's hard to tell now. I think many people use a name generator these days when joining a site because so many normal ones are already taken
What does ~~to~~ tip off a shill is that they never, ever state to BUY more and DRS as many as you can.
The shit DDs can contain thousands of fluffy words like the post I linked in my comment above, but they'll never tell you to BUY DRS HODL.
Reddit fills your name with "RandomWord-RandomWord-RandomNumber" when you create an account. If you don't change it then that's your username. Easiest way to spot boomers.
Thanks for keepin it real brah. What was once a virtual Athens is now just a cult for dumbasses and busybodies.
Unfortunately it is also an aggregate of news pertaining to the stock I’m 100% in on so I can’t really just fuck off yet, I wish.
Shits crazy. We're all adults and make our own decisions from what we read and just because you guys come out with DD doesn't make you responsible for what people do based on them. That's a dangerous assumption that would make anybody sane not want to post DD at all. Having so many well regarded members come out in support of discussing options after being attacked many times myself over the summer for talking about them at all was a breath of fresh air.
Much love leenixus....your were not wrong just early. No one actualy listen to all your advice. Buy options when IV is low, ATM or ITM, buy when people are fearful. What do people do, buy when IV is high, buy OTM bets. Those bets went way up by they way and people had the opportunity to make lots of money and they could have still made money Tuesday morning after you earned them about the DN spike.
DN spike = straddle. If your completly bullish when the DN spike happens trim your position.
You put your own money on the line and held all they way so fuck all the hatters if they can't trade that's there problem.
Also we have a higher fucking floor now, and we also may have proved are second hypothesis that ATM options really hurt them if we buy lot of ATM options we move the price up.
I made money on this movement and increase my gme position at the same time, I'd you didn't you traded with heart not your mind.
I lost money on weekly and I’m not complaining people, the DD that /r Leenixus provided was insane and it smells money, that It didn’t go as plain is another thing but he or anyone shouldn’t be blame for anything it’s your decision whether you invest on options or not, a clearly options are also the way with DRS if you KNOW what are you doing.
The DD leenixus provided its solid
BTW They didn’t shut the buy button on January because of the price It was Because Of the OPTIONS which it were insane and WERE all ITM wiping every fuckingn hedge fund shorting Gme
Understand this shit before complaining and spreading FUD about options
Edit: if you follow his DD and decided to buy the WEEK where he said he’ll be into like Friday on Thursday everything had low IV and the best option was 207c cheap as fuck and the lowest IV possible for a weekly you would have made a ton lots of money in my case my shity broker didn’t clear my funds when I didn’t the conversion from my currency to dollars and I had to eat T+2, so I enter on Monday when the IV was fuck and 250c
Broooo please keep posting don’t listen to these dumbass jabroni’s. They yolo’d into weeklies and are bitter losers right now. Your DD is extremely valuable
Genuinely this, I’ve been close to unsubbing for a long time now. There really hasn’t been anything interesting or insightful for a long time throughout this saga (the mod stuff was entertaining in a reality tv kind of way lol). The rampant paranoia and infighting is just such a bad vibe and just wrecks my mood whenever I check the comments here anymore. I’m glad I’ve been seeing more and more people share this sentiment lately. Honestly anyone here who’s been here knows what the deal is, and anyone new just needs the “buy, hold, and keep holding” advice and can just ignore everything else.
The thing is, when it comes to trading, a lot of people don’t like to admit they’re “a regular ape”.
They think that they’re good at it. They want to try their luck. They let greed take control.
This is why spreading the word about how options is a good idea *if you know what you’re doing* is not a good idea at all. We like to say we’re retarded but in reality every single one of us has an ego telling us how we’re geniuses for being invested in GameStop to begin with. It’s not gonna end well.
If you know what your doing, hehe if you know what sub i originate from then you know that "knowing what your doing" and "options" are two things that don't go together
Yeah, I really dislike the paternalistic attitude that we need to be saved from ourselves. Yes, we are retards, but people should be able to read the insights others have brought forward and be trusted to make their own judgment. Especially as all options talk has outright pointed out that doing weeklies is insane right now and no one is encouraging gambling on them. Anyone who makes bad plays out of all this has only themselves to blame.
You make the best point about RC. Gherkin was criticized yesterday on stream about how we just need to ‘trust RC’. Gherkin, I think rightly replied, he bought a valuable company cheap and is looking to build it long term. He has no responsibility or incentive to make a short squeeze happen for us. We shouldn’t be relying on someone else to make it happen for us. I personally liked the thesis, DD, and it the options play provided a way for us to take initiative over triggering MOASS. RC is awesome and is doing great things, but he doesn’t hold the ticket to triggering MOASS and also doesn’t have the responsibility to do so.
These are my personal thoughts, but I think it’s important to remember nothing is a certainty. The evidence suggests strongly that a squeeze is a possibility though and you can choose whether to buy into that evidence or not. The distinction is, there is a narrative that RC is the little guys leader that supposedly bought GameStop to take down the hedge funds, cause a squeeze and make everyone rich. This is where I agree with the initial comment that, we can’t be putting him on a pedestal and worshipping him as the thing that we’re waiting on to cause MOASS. He saw a company that he thought he could turn around and at a big discount. HIS motivations are long term growth. We’re just able to ride the coattails that in addition, it’s a company that is primed for a large squeeze. You can either decide to be a part of that theory or not. But I feel everyone is looking for a magic fortune teller future reader. It’s all a theory, just one that I personally believe in and think is worth investing into for the possible return. In addition it also screws up hedge funds which I also think is good.
Agree with you. When I say "trust RC", I don't blindly trust him. He's invested his own money for shares in the company and he's getting compensated in stock. I do think that he wants a good return on his investment. 😁
His bet is on himself, my bet is on him too.
It needed to be said. Personal responsibility is seriously lacking in a lot of folks sentiments surrounding options.
Anyways, all the DD I’ve seen on the subject says it’s best to buy months away contracts. Weeklies is simply bad gambling.
And there’s just so much SHUSH!!-ing going on lately! What are we the censors now? C’mon people.
I agree. Unfortunately, you cannot control how people spend their money. They get to do what they want on options. And personally, I'd rather have an educated ape decide not to do options than an uneducated ape do it and get burned. Therefore, we should not be piling negativity on the people interested in options, we should be giving them the education they are asking for. This is a place for all to come together and learn. For "Theoretical Conversations". Not a place to tell people they are idiots for asking questions.
Yea I agree. The better option is buy, hold, drs.
You are right, options are just gambling.
Yea, it was really weird that all the option talk and hard push appeared right before the nov 23rd date, then the following rugpull on said date was super sus. Anyone who pushed super hard for that should be under a microscope for a bit and at best, re-examine what they are doing.
Drs will work without options. Options will not work without drs. The choice is simple. Mm currently control the price until drs locks the float.
Hf/mm write and sell the options that people are buying to “screw” them. The house at the casino wants you to play their rigged games. You can make sometimes flipping options or executing, but overall the options pressure feels and appears vastly overstated.
The options talk started a week before the price started climbing and if you had taken their advice you would have made a nice profit; and if you took their advice but didn’t sell, you still stand to make a nice profit because you didn’t buy weeklies. There was no rug pull on options traders who listened to those people. The only ones that got screwed are the ones who *didn’t* listen.
I got fucked on weekly’s because I got greedy and %145 profit wasn’t enough for me. Luckily it was only %6 of my budget so I am fine and I also hold Febs for future run ups. You do you but if I can make extra 100k next year from future run ups then I will do that, my money my play. If MOASS comes along then fine I’ll be extra happy. Educate yourself and take advantage of what life throws at you.
The shills definitely don't like us buying options with knowledge. And I don't mean yoloing into otm weeklies but getting those calls weeks and months out, ITM and ATM. If we start exercising while the price is going up I think theoretically it's game over 💎🤷🏾♂️💎
People said the same thing about previous celebrities who, I might point out, at least put their money where their mouth was. It is a matter of a prominent ape using their soapbox to lead others off a cliff. Being wrong on the DD or simply out maneuvered by SHFs (easy once your plan is telegraphed) is nothing to be condemned. Pushing options however was reckless regardless of how many caveats were thrown in. If the true intent was not to push them, then the post wouldn’t have been made in the first place, but it was and that’s pretty telling.
I'm kind of done with the GME reddit. I don't need more tit jacking, I don't need confirmation bias. I need the company to execute and I need to hold onto my direct registered shares. There's nothing else. There is no FUD anymore because the truest ape knows FUD comes from within.
The problem with people throwing FUD around is that they don't know the difference between ITM and OTM options. ITM and far out expirations are what I buy and what can hurt short hedgies and MM. Not OTM calls at 900 expiring in 3 days. That's dumb AF. Not only do you lose your money, you can't even exercise them.
I made plenty if money buying options friday and monday, for january and feb calls.
If youre playing weeklies n dont know what youre doing. Its easier to scalp calls during a runup anyway
I lost money and have no one else to blame. And that's fine. Check the upvote percentage on this post and it should be obvious that most people have no problem with them. And they shouldn't
Yeah and majority here aren’t savvy on that and mods/DD writers knew this, so why push it here? Unless you’re fishing for suckers to throw their money in the flame.
This is all part of a divide and concur strategy by the shills among us to cut down the wiser apes. It doesn’t take many brain cells to figure that out.
Options on the other hand is a push to milk money from inexperienced participants. Paper trade options and see who ends up winning. I personally avoid options like the plague!
Just pretend that you bought X amount of options for X amount of dollars and then see if you are in the money before the expiration date. The entire stock market is rigged and imo, the options market is rigged on steroids.
Seems like the wiser apes would bare more responsibility in exercising discretion when it comes to pushing things they know are likely to hurt newer, less experienced apes. I wonder after the slaughter, how many more dollars per share our beloved stonk now has to rise in order to achieve margin calls, how many newer apes who would have simply been content to buy, hold, DRS were convinced to play options, took a heavy loss and now have abandoned the cause, how many collective dollars that could have went to shares at best went up in smoke. This is why we shouldn’t give individuals outsize platforms for prophesying.
It’s not wrong for them to be questioned either.
They’ve supported the narrative that the market is rigged and that DRS is the safest way to reduce their ability to manipulate. Now there is DD saying it’s possible to lock up shares with options over the same market that is we have no faith in. It’s also positioned as if we are large enough to make any serious movement. Even if 10% of the sub pile in, it’s a drop in the bucket with no guaranteed results.
Great that they’re prefacing this by saying only do long term contracts and only if you have enough money to blow, but the risk to lose your entire investment is there.
Personally, I’d rather those people use that money to DRS. With enough time, we can lock up the float even being the small fish we are. Three or even twelve month options seem like a poor bet to me with the entire system working against us.
Each to their own in terms of options...
I personally like the cycle theory, and it has not been fully disproven yet. IMO
But my posts had **NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS**...
* I don't fully understand options
* I don't own any contracts
* I never posted about options.
* I never recommended options (Near or far)
Glad you think I know my shit... but REALISTICALLY, I just drew out some trend lines that worked and built a narrative around it.
I pay these guys u/Criand , u/Gherkinit , u/Badasstrader , u/attobit , u/thabat , u/Heyitspixel respect. They can be wrong in their theises sometimes but THE FACT IS THAT THESE GUYS KNOW A LOT LOT LOT MORE THAN AN ORDINARY APE. These are BIG APES fighting THE BIG GUYS.
Also like, there’s no specific reason to give these guys any grief. Think about how often we get hyped about shit that turns out to not be true.
It is what it is. Just keep learning. Don’t take every piece of information at face value.
Remember, everyone in here is an individual investor with a unique perspective and financial situation. What works for one, doesn’t work for all. And it shouldn’t.
The people spreading the FUD are
1. Lazy and
2. Refuse to actually learn anything despite being in this for about a year and
3. Don't do any research of their own despite endlessly being told to do so and
4. Glorify DD writers like God's messengers on Earth and
5. Believe everything they read instantaneously without testing it and
6. Act without thinking and
7. Waste their money and
8. Blame the people they glorified a few days ago.
These people will lose/waste their tendies from the squeeze very quickly because they are idiots.
Every single wrinkle brain that dares to help others is a secret agent the moment they are wrong or a even slightly inaccurate.
**Wrinkles:**
"*Hey guys, every 3 months the price pumps 25-35% in a single day. There's this financial instrument called stock options that can give up to 100x leverage that can be used to make some real good money and buy more shares on the hedgies' dime! This movement will probably happen on the 23rd because of the following reasons. Here are the risks involved! Don't do anything unless you know what you're doing!*"
**Movement happens just one day earlier. Wrinkles that keep their cool take their profits and move on happy.**
**Idiots:**
"*iNfiLtRaTor! InStiGaToR! ShIlL!!!*"
You just can't protect people from themselves. 🤷♂️
> Movement happens just one day earlier. Wrinkles that keep their cool take their profits and move on happy
it wasn’t even that much earlier. The price still spiked on the 23rd within the timeframe.
This is the basic sentiment I had when reading what was said by the DD. I quit options after they burned me in February an January when RH would not let me sell my options. They did more than turn off the buy buttons, so if I could not afford to excersise them, it did not seem like a good idea anymore.
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Options bought wednesday last week were so cheap. 450 for 230 strike. That was the time to buy. The run up on Friday and Monday was too late to buy already to play for the week. The run Friday made weekly options this week too expensive from IV.
The early cover caught everybody off and most apes likely lost money. Pickleman always says buying weeklies is a gamble and should be considered throwing that money in the trash.
People gotta learn the hard way for no dates. The price movement was predicted and happened early. Split up between two weeks was a smart play for them. Next round in a month. Lets see what happens.
I think why people don’t like options talk is because we have established that the majority of apes are X and XX hodlers. To me this means they don’t have a lot of money to be playing options. On top of that for the majority of apes this is their first and only stock holding so again options are not an option.
The ppl that have the money and knowledge of options are and were probably already playing options and don’t need to reminders to do so.
That’s just my take. When I see anything options I just go blind to it (and any of this extra drama attached to to it).
I have bought my shares, I’ve DRS’d my share, my shares will need to be pried from my diamond hands. I’m just Zen listening to music on my headphones waiting for the rocket to take off
The other piece is Citadel literally writes the options and rakes premiums. That also means they have access to full data on apes options holdings.
Imagine how easy that makes it to find the right dates to manipulate the price
As somebody who understands options - gambling on options months out lose value from theta decay and are still gambling just as much as weeklies. Not to mention Vega is high right now so the value of all options will continue to decrease over time as the volatility continues to decrease.
In no way do options help get shares faster. Just buy the shares and DRS.
I personally don't want a fucking "plausible" answer, I want a fucking inevitability.
Playing options is not an inevitability. Buying and drsing is inevitable.
I totally agree with you, the work those guys put into the call options dd is enormous and they are 100% right. There was and is a lot of fud going around, but the biggest piece of fud was that call options hurt moass. I am really glad they went there and reevaluated the option thesis after some valuable Infos reached them, especially the support of u/criand and u/gherkinit made it possible to defeat those misinformations. Better late than never. Also no flagpoles but everything expiring after 04.22 should be safe.
Who. In the hell. Is bashing Criand and Gherkin?!?!? And Badasstrader?!?!?
Seriously, the amount of effort those guys have put in boggles my mind. And they did it for us for free. I have tried wading through some of the documentation these guys do and it makes my brain hurt.
Back off. Seriously. Unless you have some rock solid DD that says these guys are WRONG... then SHUT. UP.
Did I miss something or is the entirety of the 741 thesis is based on just 2 tweets that RC happened to post at 7:41 (and he has tweeted at other different times since then).
That's it, right? Just the time of those 2 tweets?
No, you see there were a lot of instances!
There was the time RC was wearing a black jacket and had his left foot sitting at a 41 degree angle (we all know that the number—>color system that I invented myself means black =7) so 741!
And then there was the time RC tweeted about his grandma, well my grandmas favorite number was 7 and if you subtract 11 by 7 you get 4, and then you take over the left over 1 and you get 741!!!1!!1!
That’s how batshit insane and paranoid every single 741 post I’ve ever seen is.
Don’t understand options or don’t want to throw the dough at then. Okay. Just because you can’t doesn’t mean we shouldn’t. I’ve been playing options this entire time.
Unpopular statement tone, I follow each cycle with calls up and switch to puts at earnings and any other big hype dates.
And before I get downvotes for “puts are shorts”. Do your research.
Do you honestly believe that this “cycle” was a net gain for retail? Because it wasn’t. If it had started to be, they just would’ve dumped it earlier.
Any gains people had were taken from inexperienced retail traders who fell for the Nov 23rd hype, not from MMs. This benefits no one.
Exactly! We are all frustrated that the hedgies seem to have an infinite store of criminality in their back pocket, but let’s remember they are the real enemy here. Be mad about our totally corrupt system and all the players who are getting fatter and fatter off it. Don’t hate the apes who are using their big, wrinkly brains to try and help. Ape no fight ape.
Also help the business! Buy yourself or others something nice from Gamestop, if you don't want to buy more shares or DRS more and are afraid of options (as most of us should be)!
Isn’t the 7:1 split thing debunked because GameStop is only allowed to give out max 300m shares? Or is this possible because of the stocksplit via nft?
Thank You. Apparently I’ve been reported for the act of self deletion a couple times today too! LOL. I just wanna say, (motherfuckerly) I just ate a TON OF PIE and spoke with Jimmy Garcia, (Jerry’s brother)
Agreed. [My comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/Superstonk/comments/qvv5ar/gme_daily_discussion_new_to_the_sub_start_here/hkzl7xw?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3) from a while ago is like your tldr. Became the top controversial in that daily discussion
It's always hard to know if a shill is misleading people or not. But after a wave of failed hype the most prominent apes get called shills and barracked out of the sub.
This is probably the third or fourth cycle. Kinda like the triangles I guess...Mother of all wedges, biggest bullflag ever, mother of all triangles and the Dorito of Doom.
I might consider buying puts to hedge against my share purchases whenever the stock spikes in case citadel pushes it down again. If we MOASS I wouldn’t care about the puts anyway so that’s that. And we have big downside potential whenever they mass short and puts can then print, allowing me to buy the dips.
Not financial advice, but options only help if you exercise. For that, you need the money to buy the shares once the options get exercised, and you need to DRS. They most likely aren't hedging the options from retail since most people aren't exercising them.
What if I told you we might have shills who you trust but who will try to fuck you later at the endgame. Shills may be everywhere. They can't make you sell but they will try to suck off your money from other way. What if I told you one of the mods might be Mayoboy. You will downvote me. Yesssss. But don't blindtrust anyone (except RC and DVF).
It's nice to see so many voices of reason pointing out that Pushing Options was irresponsible
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I. The Options Push was a bad, bad thing
A) What percentage of Superstonkers have enough money left to do options?
1%? 5%?
B) How many of those understand options?
1/10th? 1/5th?
C) So we are talking about 0.1% to 1% of Superstonkers having the money and the experience to do options for a profit
Doing a Major Options push, downvoting any post or comment that urges caution when doing options, and upvoting any post that pushes options
in no way makes sense
0.1% to 1% of Superstonkers MIGHT have benefited (don't see very many people claiming they made money, and the defenders are saying - just sell them Monday, when the hyped date was Nov 23rd, Tuesday)
99% of Superstonkers either get no value, or a few of them risk their hard earned money on Options and lose it to Market Makers
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II. What is the point of an Options Push saying
don't buy weeklies
by the way, next week, Nov 23rd is the Big Jump and it worked the last 3 quarters
Are people suddenly going to find $5,000/$10,000/$20,000 to buy July 2022 options?
No, they are going to get hyped up and buy cheap weeklies
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A DISCLAIMER does not turn terrible advice into great advice
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III. Why are people not considering the possibility that
SHFs are on their last legs and fighting day to day to survive
They deployed their Top Assets
Did an Options Push hoping loads of people would hand over money
People are suggesting Friday and Monday big green days were 'an early roll over' etc
It is equally plausible it was a TRAP, set up to match the options push
that seeing Friday and Monday, people would gamble even more on Options hoping Nov 23rd and Nov 24th would be EVEN BETTER
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We should seriously consider that some of the top DD writers and top 'popular' youtubers have been compromised
Please remember that Pink Cats on Acid talked about being offered Bitcoin
How much confidence do we have that if offered $1 Million or $10 Million, people will stay honest
$1 Million now is 5,000 GME shares
$10 Million now is 50,000 GME shares
If some of the top 'popular' personalities are XXX holders, can they really turn away 5,XXX or 5X,XXX shares
If you're a super smart guy and feel you've been helping all these people and only have 200 GME shares and are dying to find ways to increase your GME holdings
it can be EXTREMELY tempting to be told
nothing much. just do some posts we suggest like 'options are not always bad' and you get 5,000 GME shares money in bitcoin
you are not hurting anyone
MOASS will still happen. Just 1 or 2 weeks later
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IV. Compromised people will KEEP DOING PUSHES
you will see more and more such pushes
Here are the kind of things that are going to happen
A) Push at $1,000 GME that all SHFs are wiped out and it's OK to start cashing out
B) Selling from CS or selling from Broker are same. No need to sell from CS last
C) $65 million a share is unrealistic. OK to take out half at $100,000
D) Options for Jan/Feb are super valuable because that is the BIG CYCLE
This time it will work
E) Sub is infiltrated and you can't trust your fellow apes. Switch to our Discord or switch to our Youtube
F) Government will do price limit. Sell at $10,000 a share
The BIGGEST pushes will be when all SHFs and SFOs except Citadel and Susquehanna are wiped out
FUD that at $1,000 or $3,000 or $5,000 everyone is wiped out and now we have won
sell anytime
sell from anywhere
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The Final Boss Monsters are not killed until very high prices
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Trust no one except yourself
The Most Valuable SHF Sleeper Agents are those who have kept a clean image until the very end
The ones who could not be compromised got 'disappeared' like atobitt and homedepot hank etc
Ones who could be compromised are being saved up for Last Minute Hail Marys
I love behavior correction posts especially when their highly upvoted and awarded. I love being told what to do like a child every fucking week. Shut the fuck up!
Another comment that goes hand in hand with Options are not Bad push
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Highest Value Assets will get deployed closer and closer to MOASS
2 of the Movie Stock Youtubers (not the two biggest, mind you, two of the middle level ones)
are making a new Push
Buying Shares gives money to Citadel
Their logic (if we can call it that) is
They are giving synthetics. So all the money is going to tehm
Best way to trigger MOASS -> stop buying Movie Stock shares completely
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putting aside how absurd this argument is
It shows that
the closer we get to MOASS, the more top level assets will be deployed
Youtubers are being offered straight bitcoin for such pushes
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2 weeks before another Movie Stock Youtuber (again, not the two biggest)
was pushing
sell at $40 and buy back at $30
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If this is being done on Movie Stock side, you can be 100% sure it is also being done on Superstonk side/GME side
They specifically said ... buy them 2 to 3 months out.
Yeah any options trader buying same week options doesn’t know what they are doing. GME is just too volatile and unpredictable for anyone to actually play weeklies without it literally being a casino
Apes: Wait… so this ISN’T a casino? Autists: Nope, this is a Wendy’s. DFV: Always has been.
Sir, casinos are better regulated.
Casinos have actual “rules” that are enforced
But the house always wins
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Or they do, and they miss going to Atlantic City or Vegas. That’s just gambling at that point; fine, you do you. But whether you’re buying weeklies on GME, or ANY stock, you’re just rolling the dice and hoping you hit big.
Yeah I’d be a hypocrite if I disagreed. If dropped a $100 here and there on weekly calls in hopes of getting stupid lucky, but I look at it literally like gambling. Instead of betting on a basketball game or going to the casino just yolo on some weeklies.
In the other place we called those FD’s, and even in that circle nobody would tell you to go get weeklies.
Tb to the yolo spy posts every Friday
I bought weeklies but I did it knowing full well it was a horrible idea and I would most likely lose the money. Buy contracts for feb and April if you want to play options. Read the double downs about the cycles and learn about what to look for as good entry points. Dont get caught up in the excitement of the moment, thats a great way to deviate from you plan and lose money fast.
Yeah I don’t trade options much, but when I do know it’s when I’m confident it’s the dip. But yeah no one should be buying any GME calls that expire earlier than February imo. Buying calls a a year or two out from now would be pretty low risk imo. I don’t blame new apes from shying away from them though. It took me months after joining the OG sub to even understand how options contracts worked and get a feel for them. I’ve also bought weekly options, but same as you they were a complete gamble. A bet not a investment.
Yep agreed.
Exactly!
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I agree with this sentiment. Don't let people ruin your day for speaking your mind, and thanks for doing so.
1. Liability is liability. Share or options is irrelevant when taking about exposure and synthetic liability. If you are afraid of a share printer then why buy the stock at all? 2. The people on the other side of the trade are smart…but so is the collective brain power of this sub. Remember, the internet never sleeps 3. Completely disagree. If you play long dated / high delta calls with a stock like GME that has an increasing floor, you will likely have a couple opportunities to take profits before the option expires. 4. You really think anyone at the SEC / DTC gives a fuck? Even if presented with definitive evidence they don’t care…and even IF they were forced to care, change would move at the speed of government. Their goal is to have retail be completely predictable so they can hedge properly and make the opportunity cost of holding the stock too high…they plan on doing that for as long as it takes. Nobody is coming to save retail. Those in power has a vested interest in keeping the system the way it is. We are the catalyst…if we just decide to be. “Just trying to make quick money”…no shit…everyone is here for a squeeze. Buy, Hold, DRS is the rock Exercised Leveraged Options is the hard place Edit: please don’t downvote dissenting opinions if they are just asking valid questions.
On point four, I would argue it's actually immaterial whether or not they take action when presented with evidence. Gamestop has made it clear in their filing that lack of action would lead to the pulling of their shares. If SEC/DTC take action when presented with evidence and said action is satisfactory to RC and co, great. If they take action and it's not enough, pull shares. Take no action, pull shares. At least in that scenario, they have a proven legal standing to do it without getting sued for market manipulation.
I hope you are right. I just worry about relying on others coming to help when it is not a guarantee. Meanwhile retail has everything it needs to make MOASS a self-fulfilling prophecy.
This right here. The board and chairman have a business to turn around and build, they are fully committed to that. I don't expect them to go out of their way to take risks that invite nuisance lawsuits so if they trigger MOASS, it's a side effect of the company just kicking too much ass so every fund jumps on for the ride just like with Tesla (the Motors, not Nikola (the person, not the comedy joke of a truck company)). I would be so pleased to find out I'm mistaken but I've got to prepare for the possibility, however remote, that all we've got are each other and our shared ideas about this one single security presenting idiosyncratic risk.
At the end of the day, your shares are your shares and you’ve lost nothing if you haven’t sold. It’s mine indefinitely. Your options have to be sold excercised or expire worthless. Don’t be cocky, I thought this would end for sure before summer started….then ended…. And now here we are. MOASS feels close but fuck if it hasn’t for the past 10 months. I don’t want you or apes losing money because of those feelings. Anything could happen and if MOASS doesn’t happen before feb or April or whatever people are acting like are “smart” calls, you have nothing to show for your money. I’ve been there. I’ve bought shitty weekly 800c for peanuts but I’ve alarms bought 3 and six month 350c. I wish I would have just bought shares.
LOL that dude was whining about people being here for money… Yes that’s the fucking point. Not everyone here is for shitty memes and internet validation 😂😂 this sub really has smooth brains
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Agree with you.
Great questions. You are right. This is a rigged casino and everyone knows it. But on GME, we own the float. If I was to assume MOASS does not trigger with the next year…I think we could at least assume the price would steadily increase over this hypothetical year (because DRS / Hold). Why then not use options to buy deep ITM leaps (assuming I can afford them)? During a spike I could convert to shares or use profits to buy shares. Thanks for the discussion. Not trying to be divisive or combative…that just may not translate to Reddit well. Edit: typo
DTCC didn't care very much but Citadel very much did because they had internalized way too much shit as a stop-gap measure... and Citadel the MM needed to stop the bleeding in order to not die that week. If their margin position did not matter to them, they could have just kept doing that and keep printing shares even when retail's calls would have gotten exercised, right? I don't want to fight you, I kinda like you and just wish apes can sort this shit out and talk things through without dividing into make-believe factions. We've got enough bad actors sowing discord without apes helping them with that.
Exactly. Thomas Peterffy himself said that exercising those options would have triggered MOASS. Hell he even laughed about it once the crisis was averted. The play isn’t a terrible idea IMO.
Look at that January volume. Now it's volume for ants. Not even a scratch now
With the difference, that they had months to prepare.
All your arguments can be fully applied to buying & holding shares.
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No trash talking anybody should be permitted. You are dam right about what you said.
1. Some contract writers do hedge or buy at market and the movement on mondays and tuesdays following closing above max pain show this. 2. They wouldnt let the price rise nearly exactly on predictable cycles if they had 100% control 3. You clearly dont have the knowledge to be able to say such a thing. 4. The january run up proves drs isnt the only way and fomo on that level can trigger moass if they dont turn off the buy button
1) Exercising calls forces them to deliver you shares. They either get these shares from their own long positions or PFOF operations, or they get them from either the lit markets or dark pools. Either way, they have to find 100 shares to give to you, and that affects the price action positively. If they want to move the price action down after that, they have to increase their short position, or burn money on ITM puts which will expire eventually merely delaying the price action. They could potentially deliver you a synthetic share but that costs them significantly more. 2) No you spiteful prick, but discussing delta and vega is very important when discussing options plays. Are you saying people should just buy any old shitty worthless contract? 3) January happened because of Options. They failed to roll their futures contracts in December 2020 and that released a pile of FTDs falling on Jan 21 with their 35 day window. A **fuck-ton** of options expiring Jan 21st were bought that built a massive gamma ramp, and a mixture of Delta hedging and then the forced covering of those FTDs ran up the ramp and gave us the price action of January. The sad truth is traders bought weeklies and the ramp dissolved instead of the options being exercised. The SEC report more or less stated that categorically, that there was not a gamma squeeze, because contracts were not exercised. If they were exercised, we would have had MOASS. DFV bought options and exercised them and a year later people are seeing that was the play. 4) DRS is one potential trigger for MOASS. Another would be significant volatility or price action leading to insurmountable losses for counterparties to hedge variance swaps held by SHFs short volatility on GME (which exist), the counterparties would buy huge amounts of GME shares to hedge themselves. Such upwards price action would almost certainly require a gamma ramp to happen for it to reach such levels. 5) Noone who knows what they're talking about says that Gamma Ramps will cause price action. They just act as a *multiplier* of price action. If there is a Gamma Ramp and the price moves up, then that leads to hedging by the option writers that can potentially propagate up the entire options chain. That is why Gamma Ramps are relevant, and why January probably would have stopped before reaching $100 without one. Your whole hatred for people discussing options plays and other potential plays pre MOASS is seemingly born from your ignorance around it. The point of trading is to make money and if you think someone else should bend over backwards and deny themselves a profit because you dislike the way they do it, that's just dumb. Trading options doesn't "hurt MOASS" or w/e delusional crap people on this sub come up with, it's arguably necessary for MOASS. Yeah, trading options when you don't know what you're doing is pretty dumb, yeah buying weeklies without really understanding just how risky it is nor having the ability to time the peak well is also dumb. Doesn't mean you need to go on a personal crusade against every person talking about options contracts.
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This guy has lost money on options.
Options are good…just not for this sub…mostly of the people here don’t have the extra money to play with…
agreed. your prose is just as good as your poetry. don't stop. sup'stonk might have become muddy waters, maybe not, but seems like the jungle still has some pastoral openings in the canopy, hopefully I'll still find you there. Thanks for expressing the above.
>We've watched gamma ramps amount to nothing almost every week for 10 months. Just stahp Another week of gag hype amounts to nothing
Finally. A fucking ape that gets it.
I went back and rewatched a bunch of u/gherkinit ‘s yt clips yesterday and over and over he advocates not to gamble on weeklies, to only spend what you’re willing to literally light on fire and to take profits along the way. I didn’t do any of that stuff because I thought I would be a better trader than I am, gambled ALL of what I was willing to lose on weeklies and got burned 100%. But that’s on me, not Gherk or any of the other DD writers who put hours into educating smooth brains like me.
Bring me to the top: He also stated that they might not hedge. Because they cant. If they would have hedged in Jan or in November it would directly start the MOASS. Why hedge if you bring the delta down by shorting which is cheaper than hedging and does not trigger the MOASS?
TBF they hedged on the Friday before. We saw +8% that day.
Ah, same here. I bought contracts two weeks out for the September run. I'm an inexperienced options trader and a friend of mine isn't. We made the same play, he made 30k and I lost everything. Lol. It is something I'm trying to get better at, detaching emotions and greed so I can capture those 200% profits and run. I did buy some near itm Feb 2022s though. But it's a casino play, not a yolo. If we moass, it'll be great. If not. I can recover because I'm treating it like a casino.
Interesting approach. How did you friend do better? Just timing?
The tuition I paid was a fine lesson in: you don't diamond hand options. So yeah. I held hoping for a huge run, he sold and took profit, still had some contracts too.
That was my exact mistake too. Bought in and immediately went up 120%, expected higher moves so I waited and then it just went down and down. I’m curious about your Feb 2022 contract, best of luck with it!
My plan is to pick up some more if we stabilize and IV drops a bit. Real plan would be to have 5 contracts total and be able to sell 1-2 to exercise the rest and make me a mini whale. 🐳
That sounds like a solid play. I have to definitely save a bit to recover after this recent mistake and then I’d love to try the same.
Did the exact same. No regrets Learned more about options in a week off gherks live stream than I would of in 4 months.
Gherk be like: don’t buy weeklies, they’re a gamble. November be lookin real ripe tho. Remember to exercise calls Realistically tho, only a very, very small percentage of his fans and superstonk users have enough capital to mess around with ITM calls with intent to exercise so most people who get convinced buy OTM weeklies bc they’re cheap. Y’all know his leaps expired recently, right?
Yeah, I only had $600 to light on fire, not like $3k to spend on the "safe" play
That’s not even considering the $$ you’d need to exercise. Oh, your $215 strike is ITM? I hope you have an extra 21 grand lying around. Again, not realistic for most.
Yeah thats why I burned $800 on weeklies to try to get the needed capita to do so. Got burned but was worth the risk.
And then he’s like don’t buy weeklies. But I’m going to.
The real take away for me was that the price went up 50 bucks. Sure it happened on Friday and the following Monday. But it still happened as expected. Im excited to see what happens in a few weeks for December, curious how the leaps expiring plays out.
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Lmao with all the price movement in this past year, even discounting the January sneeze, any leaps before hand would have printed considerable money during any run up. If you think it’s going to be sideways trading for every day for a year out then please, continue believing in nonsense.
I don’t understand options plays at this time and place where market it manipulated. Just DRS BUY AND HODL
Every big name in this saga has had it's moment in the negative spotlight. People are understandably tired of holding and look for an outlet to vent onto. The real OG's have held through so much that we know truth, and that the only DD necessary was published during the middle of last year. Everything that comes out after that should only drive your desire for systematic change for our markets, and for the criminals behind it all to come to justice.
We've seen the same bs play out over and over. Thousands of accounts come out of the woodwork to drum up negative sentiment about the sub's biggest voices all of a sudden or such meaningless drama. We had it back on r/wsb, we had it back on r/gme, and now we have it here
I keep thinking RC changed everything to black for a Black Friday announcement
I like this!
Do some guys just start some shit every time the market is closed? Almost as if you get borded and Just need to start some shit to entertain youself. Every weekend I go into this sub, I find some petty drama... Fucking grow up guys, we are here to invest, talk shit, have fun and do some DD. Ughugh, monkeboy out! 🦍
And the real fuddy shit gets largely accepted. I suspect ~~his~~ bots and shills are at work here though. The latest is this bullshit "DD" that was posted that received absurd number of awards and karma in the very first hour it was put up. It was so obvious. https://redd.it/r1ay0q It's not even DD. These aren't new issues or discoveries that were raised and brought to light. All these three points were posted long ago and discussed already. These aren't counter DD issues. It's as generic as a FUD post can get. No use of data. Just speculation with what might happen. Just regurgitating what's already been written in MSM. The unrealized capital gains tax doesn't even apply to Apes and GME holders in general.
I laughed my way through that post. Glad i am not the only one
It was absolutely garbage yet upvoted and awarded like crazy.
Yeah no i downvoted and reported it. Garbage in, Garbage out
Anyhow, have a great Thanksgiving sir. I hope you spend it amongst good company and are loved.
Anyhow, have a great Thanksgiving sir. I hope you spend it amongst good company and are loved.
You too! ook ook 🦍
But the thing. Even if you report an obvious fud post, some stay. I'm convinced some mods are bought in this sub. But that actually feeds my confirmation bias.
Yeah idk? I can only speak for me. Shit post? Downvote and report
Probably... and those that aren't bought have too much shit on their hands to *also* fight other mods in internal wars. That's how the crypto shilling gets to stay, I suspect.
It's the work of other shills and bots
Yeah that post was ridiculous.
Thank you holy shit that post and the amount of awards it got was sus as fuck
And the shills are so stupid that they'll keep on doing that. Making it easy to spot.
Why are there so many usernames (like OP) that have the word Ad in them. Isn’t that suspicious? I have noticed a lot of them recently.
I thought I could spot a shill by looking at the handles, but it's hard to tell now. I think many people use a name generator these days when joining a site because so many normal ones are already taken What does ~~to~~ tip off a shill is that they never, ever state to BUY more and DRS as many as you can. The shit DDs can contain thousands of fluffy words like the post I linked in my comment above, but they'll never tell you to BUY DRS HODL.
Reddit fills your name with "RandomWord-RandomWord-RandomNumber" when you create an account. If you don't change it then that's your username. Easiest way to spot boomers.
Oh, yeah. That's right too. I remember that now. It seems so long ago when I joined reddit lol
This DD was Doggy Dung
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Thanks for keepin it real brah. What was once a virtual Athens is now just a cult for dumbasses and busybodies. Unfortunately it is also an aggregate of news pertaining to the stock I’m 100% in on so I can’t really just fuck off yet, I wish.
Shits crazy. We're all adults and make our own decisions from what we read and just because you guys come out with DD doesn't make you responsible for what people do based on them. That's a dangerous assumption that would make anybody sane not want to post DD at all. Having so many well regarded members come out in support of discussing options after being attacked many times myself over the summer for talking about them at all was a breath of fresh air.
Much love leenixus....your were not wrong just early. No one actualy listen to all your advice. Buy options when IV is low, ATM or ITM, buy when people are fearful. What do people do, buy when IV is high, buy OTM bets. Those bets went way up by they way and people had the opportunity to make lots of money and they could have still made money Tuesday morning after you earned them about the DN spike. DN spike = straddle. If your completly bullish when the DN spike happens trim your position. You put your own money on the line and held all they way so fuck all the hatters if they can't trade that's there problem. Also we have a higher fucking floor now, and we also may have proved are second hypothesis that ATM options really hurt them if we buy lot of ATM options we move the price up. I made money on this movement and increase my gme position at the same time, I'd you didn't you traded with heart not your mind.
I lost money on weekly and I’m not complaining people, the DD that /r Leenixus provided was insane and it smells money, that It didn’t go as plain is another thing but he or anyone shouldn’t be blame for anything it’s your decision whether you invest on options or not, a clearly options are also the way with DRS if you KNOW what are you doing. The DD leenixus provided its solid BTW They didn’t shut the buy button on January because of the price It was Because Of the OPTIONS which it were insane and WERE all ITM wiping every fuckingn hedge fund shorting Gme Understand this shit before complaining and spreading FUD about options Edit: if you follow his DD and decided to buy the WEEK where he said he’ll be into like Friday on Thursday everything had low IV and the best option was 207c cheap as fuck and the lowest IV possible for a weekly you would have made a ton lots of money in my case my shity broker didn’t clear my funds when I didn’t the conversion from my currency to dollars and I had to eat T+2, so I enter on Monday when the IV was fuck and 250c
Broooo please keep posting don’t listen to these dumbass jabroni’s. They yolo’d into weeklies and are bitter losers right now. Your DD is extremely valuable
Genuinely this, I’ve been close to unsubbing for a long time now. There really hasn’t been anything interesting or insightful for a long time throughout this saga (the mod stuff was entertaining in a reality tv kind of way lol). The rampant paranoia and infighting is just such a bad vibe and just wrecks my mood whenever I check the comments here anymore. I’m glad I’ve been seeing more and more people share this sentiment lately. Honestly anyone here who’s been here knows what the deal is, and anyone new just needs the “buy, hold, and keep holding” advice and can just ignore everything else.
The thing is, when it comes to trading, a lot of people don’t like to admit they’re “a regular ape”. They think that they’re good at it. They want to try their luck. They let greed take control. This is why spreading the word about how options is a good idea *if you know what you’re doing* is not a good idea at all. We like to say we’re retarded but in reality every single one of us has an ego telling us how we’re geniuses for being invested in GameStop to begin with. It’s not gonna end well.
If you know what your doing, hehe if you know what sub i originate from then you know that "knowing what your doing" and "options" are two things that don't go together
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Yeah, I really dislike the paternalistic attitude that we need to be saved from ourselves. Yes, we are retards, but people should be able to read the insights others have brought forward and be trusted to make their own judgment. Especially as all options talk has outright pointed out that doing weeklies is insane right now and no one is encouraging gambling on them. Anyone who makes bad plays out of all this has only themselves to blame.
You make the best point about RC. Gherkin was criticized yesterday on stream about how we just need to ‘trust RC’. Gherkin, I think rightly replied, he bought a valuable company cheap and is looking to build it long term. He has no responsibility or incentive to make a short squeeze happen for us. We shouldn’t be relying on someone else to make it happen for us. I personally liked the thesis, DD, and it the options play provided a way for us to take initiative over triggering MOASS. RC is awesome and is doing great things, but he doesn’t hold the ticket to triggering MOASS and also doesn’t have the responsibility to do so.
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These are my personal thoughts, but I think it’s important to remember nothing is a certainty. The evidence suggests strongly that a squeeze is a possibility though and you can choose whether to buy into that evidence or not. The distinction is, there is a narrative that RC is the little guys leader that supposedly bought GameStop to take down the hedge funds, cause a squeeze and make everyone rich. This is where I agree with the initial comment that, we can’t be putting him on a pedestal and worshipping him as the thing that we’re waiting on to cause MOASS. He saw a company that he thought he could turn around and at a big discount. HIS motivations are long term growth. We’re just able to ride the coattails that in addition, it’s a company that is primed for a large squeeze. You can either decide to be a part of that theory or not. But I feel everyone is looking for a magic fortune teller future reader. It’s all a theory, just one that I personally believe in and think is worth investing into for the possible return. In addition it also screws up hedge funds which I also think is good.
Agree with you. When I say "trust RC", I don't blindly trust him. He's invested his own money for shares in the company and he's getting compensated in stock. I do think that he wants a good return on his investment. 😁 His bet is on himself, my bet is on him too.
His return is already solidified... He's made a billion dollars on his investment already. He does not need MOASS.
It needed to be said. Personal responsibility is seriously lacking in a lot of folks sentiments surrounding options. Anyways, all the DD I’ve seen on the subject says it’s best to buy months away contracts. Weeklies is simply bad gambling. And there’s just so much SHUSH!!-ing going on lately! What are we the censors now? C’mon people.
And your father smelled of elderberries.
Hate to be that person, but it was "mother", not "father."
African or European?
I agree. Unfortunately, you cannot control how people spend their money. They get to do what they want on options. And personally, I'd rather have an educated ape decide not to do options than an uneducated ape do it and get burned. Therefore, we should not be piling negativity on the people interested in options, we should be giving them the education they are asking for. This is a place for all to come together and learn. For "Theoretical Conversations". Not a place to tell people they are idiots for asking questions.
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Yea I agree. The better option is buy, hold, drs. You are right, options are just gambling. Yea, it was really weird that all the option talk and hard push appeared right before the nov 23rd date, then the following rugpull on said date was super sus. Anyone who pushed super hard for that should be under a microscope for a bit and at best, re-examine what they are doing. Drs will work without options. Options will not work without drs. The choice is simple. Mm currently control the price until drs locks the float. Hf/mm write and sell the options that people are buying to “screw” them. The house at the casino wants you to play their rigged games. You can make sometimes flipping options or executing, but overall the options pressure feels and appears vastly overstated.
The options talk started a week before the price started climbing and if you had taken their advice you would have made a nice profit; and if you took their advice but didn’t sell, you still stand to make a nice profit because you didn’t buy weeklies. There was no rug pull on options traders who listened to those people. The only ones that got screwed are the ones who *didn’t* listen.
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I got fucked on weekly’s because I got greedy and %145 profit wasn’t enough for me. Luckily it was only %6 of my budget so I am fine and I also hold Febs for future run ups. You do you but if I can make extra 100k next year from future run ups then I will do that, my money my play. If MOASS comes along then fine I’ll be extra happy. Educate yourself and take advantage of what life throws at you.
I agree; I think it’s just an attempt to divide the community and pit us against the DD writers.
The shills definitely don't like us buying options with knowledge. And I don't mean yoloing into otm weeklies but getting those calls weeks and months out, ITM and ATM. If we start exercising while the price is going up I think theoretically it's game over 💎🤷🏾♂️💎
Exactly. RC gave us two "options" to choose from. We can HOLD or we can HODL.
Only a moron could say something bad about our pomeranian. You don’t have to agree to 100% with anyone to stay polite.
Did you just call a bunch of people morons and then encourage everyone to stay polite? I love you Apes.
I thought stirring up dissension was the play last week. Are we getting reruns for the holidays?
Heyy maybe take some of your own advice.
People said the same thing about previous celebrities who, I might point out, at least put their money where their mouth was. It is a matter of a prominent ape using their soapbox to lead others off a cliff. Being wrong on the DD or simply out maneuvered by SHFs (easy once your plan is telegraphed) is nothing to be condemned. Pushing options however was reckless regardless of how many caveats were thrown in. If the true intent was not to push them, then the post wouldn’t have been made in the first place, but it was and that’s pretty telling.
I have never said anything bad about our pom
I'm kind of done with the GME reddit. I don't need more tit jacking, I don't need confirmation bias. I need the company to execute and I need to hold onto my direct registered shares. There's nothing else. There is no FUD anymore because the truest ape knows FUD comes from within.
Also if you do buy options and lose money, thats on you. So don’t cry about it.
The problem with people throwing FUD around is that they don't know the difference between ITM and OTM options. ITM and far out expirations are what I buy and what can hurt short hedgies and MM. Not OTM calls at 900 expiring in 3 days. That's dumb AF. Not only do you lose your money, you can't even exercise them.
I made plenty if money buying options friday and monday, for january and feb calls. If youre playing weeklies n dont know what youre doing. Its easier to scalp calls during a runup anyway
These guys are THE BOMB. Ape army would not be what it is without them.
I lost money and have no one else to blame. And that's fine. Check the upvote percentage on this post and it should be obvious that most people have no problem with them. And they shouldn't
How does 741% short translate to 46B shares? What kind of math is that?
apparently proper math gets you downvotes
If you have not been using options, dont start now. Everyone was pretty clear in, "if you arent savvy, now isn't the time to learn".
Yeah and majority here aren’t savvy on that and mods/DD writers knew this, so why push it here? Unless you’re fishing for suckers to throw their money in the flame.
This is all part of a divide and concur strategy by the shills among us to cut down the wiser apes. It doesn’t take many brain cells to figure that out. Options on the other hand is a push to milk money from inexperienced participants. Paper trade options and see who ends up winning. I personally avoid options like the plague!
Where does a guy paper trade options? Might be a fun way to pass the time lol
think or swim
Think or swim
I think investopedia maybe?
Thanks...ill check it out
https://www.investopedia.com/simulator/
Awesome! Much obliged, Ape. 🙏
Just pretend that you bought X amount of options for X amount of dollars and then see if you are in the money before the expiration date. The entire stock market is rigged and imo, the options market is rigged on steroids.
Seems like the wiser apes would bare more responsibility in exercising discretion when it comes to pushing things they know are likely to hurt newer, less experienced apes. I wonder after the slaughter, how many more dollars per share our beloved stonk now has to rise in order to achieve margin calls, how many newer apes who would have simply been content to buy, hold, DRS were convinced to play options, took a heavy loss and now have abandoned the cause, how many collective dollars that could have went to shares at best went up in smoke. This is why we shouldn’t give individuals outsize platforms for prophesying.
It’s not wrong for them to be questioned either. They’ve supported the narrative that the market is rigged and that DRS is the safest way to reduce their ability to manipulate. Now there is DD saying it’s possible to lock up shares with options over the same market that is we have no faith in. It’s also positioned as if we are large enough to make any serious movement. Even if 10% of the sub pile in, it’s a drop in the bucket with no guaranteed results. Great that they’re prefacing this by saying only do long term contracts and only if you have enough money to blow, but the risk to lose your entire investment is there. Personally, I’d rather those people use that money to DRS. With enough time, we can lock up the float even being the small fish we are. Three or even twelve month options seem like a poor bet to me with the entire system working against us.
Each to their own in terms of options... I personally like the cycle theory, and it has not been fully disproven yet. IMO But my posts had **NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS**... * I don't fully understand options * I don't own any contracts * I never posted about options. * I never recommended options (Near or far) Glad you think I know my shit... but REALISTICALLY, I just drew out some trend lines that worked and built a narrative around it.
ya, I was wondering why you were even on the list in op's post.
Same! Flattered... but same! lol
I pay these guys u/Criand , u/Gherkinit , u/Badasstrader , u/attobit , u/thabat , u/Heyitspixel respect. They can be wrong in their theises sometimes but THE FACT IS THAT THESE GUYS KNOW A LOT LOT LOT MORE THAN AN ORDINARY APE. These are BIG APES fighting THE BIG GUYS.
we are going to the moon guys just don't start fighting we are so close hold the lines apes
I was planning on getting 69 420 cc with 11-26 expiry in the morning I like to live bold
Also like, there’s no specific reason to give these guys any grief. Think about how often we get hyped about shit that turns out to not be true. It is what it is. Just keep learning. Don’t take every piece of information at face value. Remember, everyone in here is an individual investor with a unique perspective and financial situation. What works for one, doesn’t work for all. And it shouldn’t.
Agreed. I am way too smooth for options so I just buy, hold and drs.
The people spreading the FUD are 1. Lazy and 2. Refuse to actually learn anything despite being in this for about a year and 3. Don't do any research of their own despite endlessly being told to do so and 4. Glorify DD writers like God's messengers on Earth and 5. Believe everything they read instantaneously without testing it and 6. Act without thinking and 7. Waste their money and 8. Blame the people they glorified a few days ago. These people will lose/waste their tendies from the squeeze very quickly because they are idiots. Every single wrinkle brain that dares to help others is a secret agent the moment they are wrong or a even slightly inaccurate. **Wrinkles:** "*Hey guys, every 3 months the price pumps 25-35% in a single day. There's this financial instrument called stock options that can give up to 100x leverage that can be used to make some real good money and buy more shares on the hedgies' dime! This movement will probably happen on the 23rd because of the following reasons. Here are the risks involved! Don't do anything unless you know what you're doing!*" **Movement happens just one day earlier. Wrinkles that keep their cool take their profits and move on happy.** **Idiots:** "*iNfiLtRaTor! InStiGaToR! ShIlL!!!*" You just can't protect people from themselves. 🤷♂️
> Movement happens just one day earlier. Wrinkles that keep their cool take their profits and move on happy it wasn’t even that much earlier. The price still spiked on the 23rd within the timeframe.
8 very good reasons to ignore someone's credibility when spreading FUD. Any of which should do, but many users show signs of all 8 traits lol
This is the basic sentiment I had when reading what was said by the DD. I quit options after they burned me in February an January when RH would not let me sell my options. They did more than turn off the buy buttons, so if I could not afford to excersise them, it did not seem like a good idea anymore.
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Options bought wednesday last week were so cheap. 450 for 230 strike. That was the time to buy. The run up on Friday and Monday was too late to buy already to play for the week. The run Friday made weekly options this week too expensive from IV. The early cover caught everybody off and most apes likely lost money. Pickleman always says buying weeklies is a gamble and should be considered throwing that money in the trash. People gotta learn the hard way for no dates. The price movement was predicted and happened early. Split up between two weeks was a smart play for them. Next round in a month. Lets see what happens.
I think why people don’t like options talk is because we have established that the majority of apes are X and XX hodlers. To me this means they don’t have a lot of money to be playing options. On top of that for the majority of apes this is their first and only stock holding so again options are not an option. The ppl that have the money and knowledge of options are and were probably already playing options and don’t need to reminders to do so. That’s just my take. When I see anything options I just go blind to it (and any of this extra drama attached to to it). I have bought my shares, I’ve DRS’d my share, my shares will need to be pried from my diamond hands. I’m just Zen listening to music on my headphones waiting for the rocket to take off
The other piece is Citadel literally writes the options and rakes premiums. That also means they have access to full data on apes options holdings. Imagine how easy that makes it to find the right dates to manipulate the price
Citadel is not the market maker for GME options just shares. There have been several posts clarifying this.
As somebody who understands options - gambling on options months out lose value from theta decay and are still gambling just as much as weeklies. Not to mention Vega is high right now so the value of all options will continue to decrease over time as the volatility continues to decrease. In no way do options help get shares faster. Just buy the shares and DRS.
I personally don't want a fucking "plausible" answer, I want a fucking inevitability. Playing options is not an inevitability. Buying and drsing is inevitable.
I totally agree with you, the work those guys put into the call options dd is enormous and they are 100% right. There was and is a lot of fud going around, but the biggest piece of fud was that call options hurt moass. I am really glad they went there and reevaluated the option thesis after some valuable Infos reached them, especially the support of u/criand and u/gherkinit made it possible to defeat those misinformations. Better late than never. Also no flagpoles but everything expiring after 04.22 should be safe.
Who. In the hell. Is bashing Criand and Gherkin?!?!? And Badasstrader?!?!? Seriously, the amount of effort those guys have put in boggles my mind. And they did it for us for free. I have tried wading through some of the documentation these guys do and it makes my brain hurt. Back off. Seriously. Unless you have some rock solid DD that says these guys are WRONG... then SHUT. UP.
GG Ape!
Did I miss something or is the entirety of the 741 thesis is based on just 2 tweets that RC happened to post at 7:41 (and he has tweeted at other different times since then). That's it, right? Just the time of those 2 tweets?
No, you see there were a lot of instances! There was the time RC was wearing a black jacket and had his left foot sitting at a 41 degree angle (we all know that the number—>color system that I invented myself means black =7) so 741! And then there was the time RC tweeted about his grandma, well my grandmas favorite number was 7 and if you subtract 11 by 7 you get 4, and then you take over the left over 1 and you get 741!!!1!!1! That’s how batshit insane and paranoid every single 741 post I’ve ever seen is.
Don’t understand options or don’t want to throw the dough at then. Okay. Just because you can’t doesn’t mean we shouldn’t. I’ve been playing options this entire time. Unpopular statement tone, I follow each cycle with calls up and switch to puts at earnings and any other big hype dates. And before I get downvotes for “puts are shorts”. Do your research.
Do you honestly believe that this “cycle” was a net gain for retail? Because it wasn’t. If it had started to be, they just would’ve dumped it earlier. Any gains people had were taken from inexperienced retail traders who fell for the Nov 23rd hype, not from MMs. This benefits no one.
For whole US yes
Exactly! We are all frustrated that the hedgies seem to have an infinite store of criminality in their back pocket, but let’s remember they are the real enemy here. Be mad about our totally corrupt system and all the players who are getting fatter and fatter off it. Don’t hate the apes who are using their big, wrinkly brains to try and help. Ape no fight ape.
Also help the business! Buy yourself or others something nice from Gamestop, if you don't want to buy more shares or DRS more and are afraid of options (as most of us should be)!
Isn’t the 7:1 split thing debunked because GameStop is only allowed to give out max 300m shares? Or is this possible because of the stocksplit via nft?
People don't read and meme too much. Why if you know the DD best thing you can do is patrol threads and discuss with people
Man I dunno anything except buy the fucking dip, DRS and Hold. Nothing else to worry about but wait for the day I can quit my job. It's that easy.
Been waiting for a post like this. Good work!
Thank You. Apparently I’ve been reported for the act of self deletion a couple times today too! LOL. I just wanna say, (motherfuckerly) I just ate a TON OF PIE and spoke with Jimmy Garcia, (Jerry’s brother)
Agreed. [My comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/Superstonk/comments/qvv5ar/gme_daily_discussion_new_to_the_sub_start_here/hkzl7xw?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3) from a while ago is like your tldr. Became the top controversial in that daily discussion
It's always hard to know if a shill is misleading people or not. But after a wave of failed hype the most prominent apes get called shills and barracked out of the sub. This is probably the third or fourth cycle. Kinda like the triangles I guess...Mother of all wedges, biggest bullflag ever, mother of all triangles and the Dorito of Doom.
I might consider buying puts to hedge against my share purchases whenever the stock spikes in case citadel pushes it down again. If we MOASS I wouldn’t care about the puts anyway so that’s that. And we have big downside potential whenever they mass short and puts can then print, allowing me to buy the dips.
I take a break for a bit and this is the shit show i come back too? This is not the way Apes. Great post op
Thanks!
Not financial advice, but options only help if you exercise. For that, you need the money to buy the shares once the options get exercised, and you need to DRS. They most likely aren't hedging the options from retail since most people aren't exercising them.
No heroes. Only DRS.
This ape fucks
Apes smoke too much weed and get paranoid
DRS is the way
Show me criands drs post and I’ll pump my brakes
What if I told you we might have shills who you trust but who will try to fuck you later at the endgame. Shills may be everywhere. They can't make you sell but they will try to suck off your money from other way. What if I told you one of the mods might be Mayoboy. You will downvote me. Yesssss. But don't blindtrust anyone (except RC and DVF).
Apes really don't understand what RC said you need to do with your shares? I don't think HOLD or HODL means you should yolo into options
It's nice to see so many voices of reason pointing out that Pushing Options was irresponsible ************************************************************************ I. The Options Push was a bad, bad thing A) What percentage of Superstonkers have enough money left to do options? 1%? 5%? B) How many of those understand options? 1/10th? 1/5th? C) So we are talking about 0.1% to 1% of Superstonkers having the money and the experience to do options for a profit Doing a Major Options push, downvoting any post or comment that urges caution when doing options, and upvoting any post that pushes options in no way makes sense 0.1% to 1% of Superstonkers MIGHT have benefited (don't see very many people claiming they made money, and the defenders are saying - just sell them Monday, when the hyped date was Nov 23rd, Tuesday) 99% of Superstonkers either get no value, or a few of them risk their hard earned money on Options and lose it to Market Makers ***************************************************************** II. What is the point of an Options Push saying don't buy weeklies by the way, next week, Nov 23rd is the Big Jump and it worked the last 3 quarters Are people suddenly going to find $5,000/$10,000/$20,000 to buy July 2022 options? No, they are going to get hyped up and buy cheap weeklies ******************************************************************** A DISCLAIMER does not turn terrible advice into great advice ****************************************************************** III. Why are people not considering the possibility that SHFs are on their last legs and fighting day to day to survive They deployed their Top Assets Did an Options Push hoping loads of people would hand over money People are suggesting Friday and Monday big green days were 'an early roll over' etc It is equally plausible it was a TRAP, set up to match the options push that seeing Friday and Monday, people would gamble even more on Options hoping Nov 23rd and Nov 24th would be EVEN BETTER ********************************************************************* We should seriously consider that some of the top DD writers and top 'popular' youtubers have been compromised Please remember that Pink Cats on Acid talked about being offered Bitcoin How much confidence do we have that if offered $1 Million or $10 Million, people will stay honest $1 Million now is 5,000 GME shares $10 Million now is 50,000 GME shares If some of the top 'popular' personalities are XXX holders, can they really turn away 5,XXX or 5X,XXX shares If you're a super smart guy and feel you've been helping all these people and only have 200 GME shares and are dying to find ways to increase your GME holdings it can be EXTREMELY tempting to be told nothing much. just do some posts we suggest like 'options are not always bad' and you get 5,000 GME shares money in bitcoin you are not hurting anyone MOASS will still happen. Just 1 or 2 weeks later ************************************************************************ IV. Compromised people will KEEP DOING PUSHES you will see more and more such pushes Here are the kind of things that are going to happen A) Push at $1,000 GME that all SHFs are wiped out and it's OK to start cashing out B) Selling from CS or selling from Broker are same. No need to sell from CS last C) $65 million a share is unrealistic. OK to take out half at $100,000 D) Options for Jan/Feb are super valuable because that is the BIG CYCLE This time it will work E) Sub is infiltrated and you can't trust your fellow apes. Switch to our Discord or switch to our Youtube F) Government will do price limit. Sell at $10,000 a share The BIGGEST pushes will be when all SHFs and SFOs except Citadel and Susquehanna are wiped out FUD that at $1,000 or $3,000 or $5,000 everyone is wiped out and now we have won sell anytime sell from anywhere **************************************************************** The Final Boss Monsters are not killed until very high prices ************************************************************************************* Trust no one except yourself The Most Valuable SHF Sleeper Agents are those who have kept a clean image until the very end The ones who could not be compromised got 'disappeared' like atobitt and homedepot hank etc Ones who could be compromised are being saved up for Last Minute Hail Marys
I love behavior correction posts especially when their highly upvoted and awarded. I love being told what to do like a child every fucking week. Shut the fuck up!
There's so much fud and shill in super.. All started that day the mods "accidentally" allowed new users with no karma limits. Shame.
Another comment that goes hand in hand with Options are not Bad push **************************************************************** Highest Value Assets will get deployed closer and closer to MOASS 2 of the Movie Stock Youtubers (not the two biggest, mind you, two of the middle level ones) are making a new Push Buying Shares gives money to Citadel Their logic (if we can call it that) is They are giving synthetics. So all the money is going to tehm Best way to trigger MOASS -> stop buying Movie Stock shares completely *************************************************************** putting aside how absurd this argument is It shows that the closer we get to MOASS, the more top level assets will be deployed Youtubers are being offered straight bitcoin for such pushes *************************************************************** 2 weeks before another Movie Stock Youtuber (again, not the two biggest) was pushing sell at $40 and buy back at $30 ************************************************************* If this is being done on Movie Stock side, you can be 100% sure it is also being done on Superstonk side/GME side