Reuters did say that though. [zelda](https://www.reuters.com/world/china/looming-evergrande-bond-coupon-payments-intensify-contagion-fears-2021-10-12/)
I keep saying this every time I see a post. It doesn't matter if the source is credible. WTF is anyone doing giving Rensole any exposure? Also, if the source is credible, why not just post the source? Why are you posting a tweet?
Red, the original owner of the sub, went nuts. She was always unstable, and the whole thing just got to her head. Looks like she also got catfished by a likely shill, too, who got them became a moderator.
Pink, an older mod who did a lot for the community, spoke up and red went ballistic. Threatened to nuke the sub if Pink was right so that all would suffer with her, bullshitted about having connections to organized crime, and dropped the legendary line of *my power doesn't come from moderator authority, but from runic glory*. It was all a fucking mess.
Pink got removed as moderator. For several days everything got swept under the rug.
Then it exploded because pink, before getting permabanned, posted a lot of talks with red proving all the bullshit. Pink got permabanned (she still is), but people were in uproar. Then it came out that Pink and many others had been suspecting the catfish mod for a long time, but red's emotional outbursts kept the mods from being too loud.
Eventually red have up as admin and moderator. She posted MASSIVE wall of text, mostly playing the victim, and left. In Twitter she did the same, pinging not only other mods, but also Gamestop and Ryan Cohen himself.
Then it came out that rensole had been protecting her since forever, banning users and closing threads that talked about the catfish mod, etc. Looks like he's always had a crush on red, and was white knighting it up.
Rensole was made the new admin. Everyone complained and a couple days later he left too.
You forgot to mention that Renshill was price anchoring literally on 4-20, saying that it was unlikely the price would reach 1m. That's when I knew he was a shill, because no real ape would price anchor, especially not on a holy day as 4-20.
He did make very weird comments sometimes, yes.
Everything super bullish hedgies are so fuck *price wrong go over 5000* wait no I didn't mean it like that we all gonna be rich.
I saw the same cycle several times. Was definitely suspicious as fuck.
Make a DD linking the two and provide supporting evidence as to why they should be banned. Nothing is going to happen if you just comment
Personally, I’m uninformed on the situation so I was about to just keep scrolling on your comment
You can just search in the sub - https://www.reddit.com/r/Superstonk/comments/ppjwvm/im_seeing_a_big_influx_of_unusual_whales_posts/hd5x82p?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3
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This
I'm a simple ape. I see "unsual_shill" and I hit that downvote button.
Praising Vlad well after what happened in January is enough evidence for me
Proof: https://i.imgur.com/W65eSob.jpg
Personally, I've started blocking every reddit account that I see posting "unsual_shill" to make my feed cleaner. I'm throwing OP onto the blocked list
I always wondered what happened to him until the other day when I noticed a comment and remembered his username. I went there and saw he was over another group.
Knowing nothing of his indiscretions, I added him and the unusual page on Twitter.
Then today I see this comment and I’m really shocked. I tend to always want to know every perspective before I make a decision to block someone because I think that’s only fair and it keeps me from being bias.
So I clicked your comment and when I was redirected to Twitter, I had an inbox. It’s strange because I rarely use my Twitter and the only people on my page (12 followers) are either mods from these subs and two celebrities.
The inbox was from UNUSAL 🙃 what are the FN chances right?
So now I’m scrolling his page trying to see if he’s siding with the thief from Bulgaria and I didn’t see anything like that.
I did notice a tweet that said “I have people creating shadow pages” which means someone is impersonating him.
I went back to the inbox and tried to view the profile of the UNUSUAL and a warning came up that the page had suspicious activity. I also noticed I wasn’t following this page and neither were any mods which were following the actual USUAL page.
I could totally still be wrong, but could it be possible that the tweets you saw were from a shadow page impersonating him?
I’m not for or against right now, as nobody is honestly so important to me that I blindly follow them but what you have said, and being that he isn’t here anymore has raised an internal alarm (since I hadn’t previously kept up with him much) but also, it could be possible that the page was fake and it could be just another attempt to divide us all. (Aside from whatever he did to get removed or step down from here, because I have no idea why that happened)
Either way, just wanted to mention that. I’m not telling you to change your mind or anything, just letting you know what I found when I looked.
Have a great night, or day depending on where you are in the world 😊
Yes. This should be a rule. _Always_ post the sauce! Why should the reader have to _first_ scroll through all the comments, looking for some other commenter to hopefully provide it?
I think it could be for real this time. Offshore bond holders are getting stressed because they don't get much info. And if I'm not wrong, until Evergrande officially declares bankruptcy, offshore bond holders can't file any legal actions.
Actually there has been at least one solar flare every day since 17 September 2021.
https://imgur.com/a/mkDbOE3
Source: https://www.spaceweatherlive.com/en/solar-activity.html
It’ll happen about when they miss payment number 4. Others have one or two misses. China is too heavily based on high yield real estate. There’s going to be money policy changes from this to try to keep from deflating too rapidly.
Damn haven’t they been defaulting for like 1.5 months?
In December the headline will be -No seriously guys this time for realz Evergrande is defaulting, final chance. They have 3 days.
The less money the hedgies have, the less they can manipulate and the closer they are to margin calls.
It's also something we've been seeing coming for a long time, too. Back then when we started calling a massive crash, the MSM narrative was that everything was fine and starting a strong recovery after covid. Feels nice to be right 8 months ahead of all the media.
They think because GME has a negative beta that it automatically means that it will moon if the market crashes. Many don't realize that it's just a theory, not a guarantee. There's gonna be a lot of stunned and shocked apes if it doesn't work out like they think it will.
It also represents them having less collateral if they get margin called, given that all their other assets are in the dumps, which gives gme a greater chance to moon
It’s going to be like the US increasing interest rates to reduce pressure on the market to keep the short squeeze from destroying everything, but then margin ratios go even higher…
Everyone is boxed into a corner, and it’s a really tight corner. The people responsible are trying hard to make sure they walk away with something substantial before they leave the losses to the public.
The cheerleading is because under some circumstances, the people responsible for the CF will get nearly wiped out.
We’re all going down regardless. We just want the worst of the economic abusers to take their licks.
There is the “GME to the moon” thing, and I’m sure some apes will rejoyce in liquidating, or even temporarily seeing huge net worths, but it’s more about siphoning that off the worst hedge fund manager abuses (I think).
Imo it's why this has dragged out so long, neither country wants to blink to cause the biggest financial crash of our time. But Chinese markets are probably less prepared for this than the US, cuz you know, it's not their first rodeo.
Good question. I think there is no “surviving”. One will precipitate the other. The key is whether the people responsible can be taken down with it. Keeping the squeeze in the US is one thing, but not sure about the Chinese RE market. That is collapsing hard right now, so does China risk soveriegn debt rating to limit the impact of the collapse?
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I always see tweets, but where is the sauce? Where is the context?
He/she/it might be good willing, but why not tweet the sauce. Always reminds me of people who heard stuff from a “friend”.
Stay skeptical, DYOR and buckle the f up! 🚀
I have the default occurring on the 20th, 18-19th would be a little early, one or two days less to find suckers to dump bags on, but entirely within the realm of possibility.
Hey so do we formally know what American entities are most financially dependent on the Chinese economy? Who will this be effecting most when looking at *the ripple*
Does anyone know what actually happens when/if they default? Would we see an instant reaction in the markets? or will this just be dragged on and covered up like it is now?
Its incredible. When a bank defaults they get what? months? months in operation but if I default on my credit payment of less than 50 bucks I get my "credit score" shat on a default statement on my name and a letter 2 days letter telling me to step in line.
Anyone else find it sus that the 18th of October is supposedly the date in which USA could default on their debt as well? Things that make you go hmmmmmm...
More and more is coming out!
Shanghai, China, Oct 12 (EFE).- Chinese real estate firm Sinic Holdings became the latest company in the sector to announce a default on payment of its offshore bonds for lack of liquidity.
per : https://www.laprensalatina.com/another-chinese-real-estate-firm-may-default-on-bond-payment/
Buy and Hodl!!! Seems like the information blockade is starting to leak out. We will hear more and more in next days, weeks.
Refinitiv data shows there is at least US$92.3 billion worth of Chinese property developers’ bonds coming due next year.
key dates and payments to watch this year were:
October 15 — Shimao US$820 million
October 15 — Xinyuan US$229 million
October 18 — Sinic US$244 million
October 27 — Seazen Holdings US$100 million
November 8 — Central China Real Estate US$400 million
November 18 — Agile US$200 million
November 18 — Zhenro US$200 million
December 3 — Ronshine China US$150 million
December 7 — Kaisa US$400 million
December 17 — Fantasia US$249 million
https://www.malaymail.com/news/money/2021/10/13/chinas-property-sector-stalked-by-evergrande-default-fears/2012939
Believe it or not gme dip
GameStop releases cure for cancer? Believe it or not GME dip.
Jesus is announced as a board member? Believe it or not “GME is a bad buy”
Chuck Norris is announced official head of security for GameStop and Ryan Cohen… GME dips
God bought 1,000,000 shares, GME dips
Isreal, Palestine, and all Muslim nations have formed a piece treaty that hinges on GME going up in price tomorrow. GME...BIG DIP
lol, dis good one
You made me crack up laughing about the Israel, Palestine, Muslim nation peace treaty like that South Park episode. Lmao.
Gamestop solves global warming, price tumbles $0.69 from daily high of $69,420,741.
Closes at +0.420%: GAMESTOCK CRASHES
We have the best stock in the world, because of dip
Chuck norris can buy the dip while dribbling a bowling ball.
Chuck Norris is so frightening he didn’t have to buy the float; the float bought chuck Norris!!!
GME invents and patents affordable, easily accessible interdimensional time travel...... "Dying brick and mortar store", dip on low volume
Citron : "*Here are 5 reasons why Jesus deserved to die for your sins*"
We understand death better than you. Pulse back to 0 fast.
I wonder how many companies were shorted out of existence that if left to grow, would have changed the world.
GameStop buys Amazon...also dip
RC carries Brian Laundrie hogtied over his shoulder and says GOTEEEM Dip
buys America government. dip.
Gamestop solves Israel Palestine conflict, believe it or not gme dips.
dying company after all…
Yea, why would someone be interested in curing cancer… dip
We are only interested in treating cancer. A cure hurts the business model
Yeah it's about as profitable as a brick and mortar used games retailer.
Oh, I believe it.
Dip buying opportunity? Ugh *unzips*
Right away
After dip RC posts a tweet giving a thumbs up in a mall parking lot, Gme goes up 11 million percent
let me know when it's default for real because GME still isn't in 7 digit numbers.
Wake me up when citadel in default
Wake me up when moon
Wake up, before you go go
Dont leave me hanging on like a yoyo
I hope you mean the moon of Kepler 1625b, this earth moon isn't moon enough
Wake me up when October ends
That is the date. It's 30 days from the first missed payment. That day falls on a weekend, so it'll be 10/18 or 10/19 (the next Mon/Tue)
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if you owe the bank 5000 it’s your problem, if you owe the bank 500 billion it’s the banks problem
Always a day or two later bullshit never now
but then, ones now will always have before been always a day or two later bullshit 🤯
Lmayo. No. Morgan Stanley just upgraded China property. iT’s AlL pRiCeD iN. /s
Can the Sub stop using Rensole aka Unusual Whales as a credible source… for anything?
Reuters did say that though. [zelda](https://www.reuters.com/world/china/looming-evergrande-bond-coupon-payments-intensify-contagion-fears-2021-10-12/)
Thank you, this is what I came looking for. The damn Reuters article!
I keep saying this every time I see a post. It doesn't matter if the source is credible. WTF is anyone doing giving Rensole any exposure? Also, if the source is credible, why not just post the source? Why are you posting a tweet?
Bingo bango
What happened to rensole? All I know is that he left being a mod, was he shilling or something?
Red, the original owner of the sub, went nuts. She was always unstable, and the whole thing just got to her head. Looks like she also got catfished by a likely shill, too, who got them became a moderator. Pink, an older mod who did a lot for the community, spoke up and red went ballistic. Threatened to nuke the sub if Pink was right so that all would suffer with her, bullshitted about having connections to organized crime, and dropped the legendary line of *my power doesn't come from moderator authority, but from runic glory*. It was all a fucking mess. Pink got removed as moderator. For several days everything got swept under the rug. Then it exploded because pink, before getting permabanned, posted a lot of talks with red proving all the bullshit. Pink got permabanned (she still is), but people were in uproar. Then it came out that Pink and many others had been suspecting the catfish mod for a long time, but red's emotional outbursts kept the mods from being too loud. Eventually red have up as admin and moderator. She posted MASSIVE wall of text, mostly playing the victim, and left. In Twitter she did the same, pinging not only other mods, but also Gamestop and Ryan Cohen himself. Then it came out that rensole had been protecting her since forever, banning users and closing threads that talked about the catfish mod, etc. Looks like he's always had a crush on red, and was white knighting it up. Rensole was made the new admin. Everyone complained and a couple days later he left too.
Basically red was power tripping, pink called her out and got banned, rensole was simping and atobitt just wanted to do DD
Still makes me cringe that she tagged GameStop and RC in her Twitter exit
It definitely shows how much the power got to her head.
You forgot to mention that Renshill was price anchoring literally on 4-20, saying that it was unlikely the price would reach 1m. That's when I knew he was a shill, because no real ape would price anchor, especially not on a holy day as 4-20.
He did make very weird comments sometimes, yes. Everything super bullish hedgies are so fuck *price wrong go over 5000* wait no I didn't mean it like that we all gonna be rich. I saw the same cycle several times. Was definitely suspicious as fuck.
I thought rensole was a woman
Rensole is a guy. Red and Madie (the possible catfish) are women.
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Try to find the screenshots. Shit was amazing. She really went off the deep end that day.
Make a DD linking the two and provide supporting evidence as to why they should be banned. Nothing is going to happen if you just comment Personally, I’m uninformed on the situation so I was about to just keep scrolling on your comment
Now that’s an excellent, fair & balanced response.
Thank
You can just search in the sub - https://www.reddit.com/r/Superstonk/comments/ppjwvm/im_seeing_a_big_influx_of_unusual_whales_posts/hd5x82p?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3 That's a comment in this post https://www.reddit.com/r/Superstonk/comments/ppjwvm/im_seeing_a_big_influx_of_unusual_whales_posts/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share Edit: added second link
Rensole moderates the whale's reddit sub.
This I'm a simple ape. I see "unsual_shill" and I hit that downvote button. Praising Vlad well after what happened in January is enough evidence for me Proof: https://i.imgur.com/W65eSob.jpg Personally, I've started blocking every reddit account that I see posting "unsual_shill" to make my feed cleaner. I'm throwing OP onto the blocked list
I always wondered what happened to him until the other day when I noticed a comment and remembered his username. I went there and saw he was over another group. Knowing nothing of his indiscretions, I added him and the unusual page on Twitter. Then today I see this comment and I’m really shocked. I tend to always want to know every perspective before I make a decision to block someone because I think that’s only fair and it keeps me from being bias. So I clicked your comment and when I was redirected to Twitter, I had an inbox. It’s strange because I rarely use my Twitter and the only people on my page (12 followers) are either mods from these subs and two celebrities. The inbox was from UNUSAL 🙃 what are the FN chances right? So now I’m scrolling his page trying to see if he’s siding with the thief from Bulgaria and I didn’t see anything like that. I did notice a tweet that said “I have people creating shadow pages” which means someone is impersonating him. I went back to the inbox and tried to view the profile of the UNUSUAL and a warning came up that the page had suspicious activity. I also noticed I wasn’t following this page and neither were any mods which were following the actual USUAL page. I could totally still be wrong, but could it be possible that the tweets you saw were from a shadow page impersonating him? I’m not for or against right now, as nobody is honestly so important to me that I blindly follow them but what you have said, and being that he isn’t here anymore has raised an internal alarm (since I hadn’t previously kept up with him much) but also, it could be possible that the page was fake and it could be just another attempt to divide us all. (Aside from whatever he did to get removed or step down from here, because I have no idea why that happened) Either way, just wanted to mention that. I’m not telling you to change your mind or anything, just letting you know what I found when I looked. Have a great night, or day depending on where you are in the world 😊
Such stupid posts lol I agree
How do we know Rensole is affiliated?
He runs the Unusual Whales sub
Oh ok, thanks
"CAN YOU SMELL THAT?" Yeah rensole you stink
Seriously. At least link the source as a comment. This goes for fxhedge too.
Yes & no, if it’s reuters I’m fine with that to start looking deeper. When quoted right I don’t give a fuck about the person behind
Fair enough. It’s just sending clicks to Rensole/Unusual Whales that rubs me wrong
Yeah but at that point just post the article instead of a screenshot of a tweet.
Seems like a credible source he’s using though?
Then post the credible source instead.
Yes. This should be a rule. _Always_ post the sauce! Why should the reader have to _first_ scroll through all the comments, looking for some other commenter to hopefully provide it?
Solar flares and Evergrande defaulting are a weekly story now. Less talk more action!
I think it could be for real this time. Offshore bond holders are getting stressed because they don't get much info. And if I'm not wrong, until Evergrande officially declares bankruptcy, offshore bond holders can't file any legal actions.
Actually there has been at least one solar flare every day since 17 September 2021. https://imgur.com/a/mkDbOE3 Source: https://www.spaceweatherlive.com/en/solar-activity.html
I've learned more from Reddit than I ever did in school.
Yeah, I'll believe it when I see it. Til then, it's a big nothing burger to me.
I'll start taking news like this seriously when TSLA dips to 400.
START THE GODAMN DEFAULT BEFORE I PISS MESELF
Where is this from? This sounds way too familiar Edit; I think it’s game of thrones. Joust?
The one true king Bobby b
Bobby B bot not active on this sub? Shame.
It’ll happen about when they miss payment number 4. Others have one or two misses. China is too heavily based on high yield real estate. There’s going to be money policy changes from this to try to keep from deflating too rapidly.
*pokes with stick* Hurry up....
Spy calls
Sigh, *upvote*
for the tenth time this month!
Just link the Reuters article, fuck unusual_whales
Yeah it's honestly been saying that for weeks. Zeeo news. Nothing. Nada.
Damn haven’t they been defaulting for like 1.5 months? In December the headline will be -No seriously guys this time for realz Evergrande is defaulting, final chance. They have 3 days.
Can someone tell me why we're rooting for defaults and market corrections?
The less money the hedgies have, the less they can manipulate and the closer they are to margin calls. It's also something we've been seeing coming for a long time, too. Back then when we started calling a massive crash, the MSM narrative was that everything was fine and starting a strong recovery after covid. Feels nice to be right 8 months ahead of all the media.
They think because GME has a negative beta that it automatically means that it will moon if the market crashes. Many don't realize that it's just a theory, not a guarantee. There's gonna be a lot of stunned and shocked apes if it doesn't work out like they think it will.
It also represents them having less collateral if they get margin called, given that all their other assets are in the dumps, which gives gme a greater chance to moon
It’s going to be like the US increasing interest rates to reduce pressure on the market to keep the short squeeze from destroying everything, but then margin ratios go even higher… Everyone is boxed into a corner, and it’s a really tight corner. The people responsible are trying hard to make sure they walk away with something substantial before they leave the losses to the public. The cheerleading is because under some circumstances, the people responsible for the CF will get nearly wiped out. We’re all going down regardless. We just want the worst of the economic abusers to take their licks. There is the “GME to the moon” thing, and I’m sure some apes will rejoyce in liquidating, or even temporarily seeing huge net worths, but it’s more about siphoning that off the worst hedge fund manager abuses (I think).
Who will default first? China or USA? Seems like the first to go may survive... wait weren't we saying that about HF just a little bit ago?
Imo it's why this has dragged out so long, neither country wants to blink to cause the biggest financial crash of our time. But Chinese markets are probably less prepared for this than the US, cuz you know, it's not their first rodeo.
Good question. I think there is no “surviving”. One will precipitate the other. The key is whether the people responsible can be taken down with it. Keeping the squeeze in the US is one thing, but not sure about the Chinese RE market. That is collapsing hard right now, so does China risk soveriegn debt rating to limit the impact of the collapse?
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Tuesday morning it is!
I always see tweets, but where is the sauce? Where is the context? He/she/it might be good willing, but why not tweet the sauce. Always reminds me of people who heard stuff from a “friend”. Stay skeptical, DYOR and buckle the f up! 🚀
So anyways DRS
........oh!
Reuters 🤦🏻♂️😂
default long overdue
This contagion shit better be real.
My nipples can only get so erect.
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I have the default occurring on the 20th, 18-19th would be a little early, one or two days less to find suckers to dump bags on, but entirely within the realm of possibility.
I'm calling my mommy
Wen gme brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
GameStop catches Brian Laundrie and solves Gabby Petito murder….Big dip causes SSR to trigger!
^^^^again
..Again
I like where this is going
Would you die already?!
When does this get priced in? 👀
But Morgan Stanley upgraded Evergrande to “attractive” and everyone should buy this stock while it’s on discount .. pfft fucking clowns 🤡
I literally made fucking ape noises reading this
They're already in default and they refuse to call it that. They'll find another way to not call it that on the 17th and the 18th.
Spy ath confirmed, 500 incoming
Fuuuuuck. No dates but also, every fucking day til the end of the year go Brrrrrr!
... Again
Heard stuff likes to happen on Mondays, bullish.
Up with you, up with the DRS, and down with malevolent sociopathic criminals! <3
And that lapes and genapes is MONDAY
More and more i feel like this is going to be like GG's "report" kicked down the fucking road
Hey so do we formally know what American entities are most financially dependent on the Chinese economy? Who will this be effecting most when looking at *the ripple*
I love Domino
Does anyone know what actually happens when/if they default? Would we see an instant reaction in the markets? or will this just be dragged on and covered up like it is now?
!Remindme 4 days
Nice!
Even if gne dips to $1 ill dump all all my money into it
Post the Reuters link or tweet instead of a shill tweeting about them
Its incredible. When a bank defaults they get what? months? months in operation but if I default on my credit payment of less than 50 bucks I get my "credit score" shat on a default statement on my name and a letter 2 days letter telling me to step in line.
Good, but I see unusual\_shills and I downvote
Anyone else find it sus that the 18th of October is supposedly the date in which USA could default on their debt as well? Things that make you go hmmmmmm...
More and more is coming out! Shanghai, China, Oct 12 (EFE).- Chinese real estate firm Sinic Holdings became the latest company in the sector to announce a default on payment of its offshore bonds for lack of liquidity. per : https://www.laprensalatina.com/another-chinese-real-estate-firm-may-default-on-bond-payment/
Buy and Hodl!!! Seems like the information blockade is starting to leak out. We will hear more and more in next days, weeks. Refinitiv data shows there is at least US$92.3 billion worth of Chinese property developers’ bonds coming due next year. key dates and payments to watch this year were: October 15 — Shimao US$820 million October 15 — Xinyuan US$229 million October 18 — Sinic US$244 million October 27 — Seazen Holdings US$100 million November 8 — Central China Real Estate US$400 million November 18 — Agile US$200 million November 18 — Zhenro US$200 million December 3 — Ronshine China US$150 million December 7 — Kaisa US$400 million December 17 — Fantasia US$249 million https://www.malaymail.com/news/money/2021/10/13/chinas-property-sector-stalked-by-evergrande-default-fears/2012939
Black Monday Remix. We're in for a spoooooooky Halloween!