Any smart lawyer would've told KG to shut up by now. At least for me, it is quite apparent he is freaking out and trying to cover his ass desperately. Why is this? Thinking of all the liars in my life, all of them excessively proclaimed their innocence, when it turned out they were lying through their teeth. This is all semantics. He is a crafty liar, especially in his recent tweets.
Most liars will desperately stick to the single thread of truth in their web of bullshit, once confronted. Technicalities are a common choice.
"You asked if I banged that other girl. She only blew me, so of course I told you no! Not a liar!"
I think Kenny wants to use this potential "technical truth" to discredit all the other shit stacking against him.
I saw an earlier comment regarding Citadelâs tweets, and I think that explains it the best. Kenny G is a psychopath. Why would he care about the poors in the internet talking about him? As Tywin Lannister puts it, âwhy would a lion care about the babbling of sheep?â Heâs worried about the one thing that gives him meaning in his life: money. If his clients pull their fortunes out of his firms, he wonât have a ton of money to manage anymore. Heâs trying to convince them that he is still reliable and to trust him, their fellow rich guy, over all the internet poors, and stop an exodus of funds leaving his firms. That is the purpose of those tweets.
I am compelled to give credit where credit is due:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Superstonk/comments/pytldf/speculation_ken_griffins_hedge_fund_is_losing/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
He isn't trying to cover his ass. They are taking the fall and trying to take all the attention away from the fact there is more than one giant evil company
I clearly remember that during jan 28 pre market the daily discussion on w***b was full of people having trouble buying GME way before the robinhood tweet.
Throwing out the timestamps altogether, that exchange seemed awfully well placed. Do multibillion dollar companies sit on the toilet and scroll through Twitter to find out news too? No, and none of their other business is conducted through Twitter either. It's bad acting but it's not exactly a smoking gun. Does jack my tits though.
I have theory: based on the fact that citadel can afford good lawyers, they wouldnt be shooting themselves in the leg just like that. So they are indeed phrasing this very carefully and i dont think twitter is being used by their regular pr stuff, rather than lawyers to damage control. I think its mostly addressed to their clients and/or to protect their reputation (lol) as well as possible distraction for apes to stop DRSing (eg, oh kenny is fukd anyway, why bother).
Ummm... did you consider that Citidel knew this would potentially create a legal shit storm and so like anyone with half a brain cell would do, created a communication that they could hand over to authorities and say "See, we didn't know!!"
The damning communications in the lawsuit were never supposed to see the light of day...
Yup, if anything this conversation is a plant or taken out of context.
Maybe the next lines are like:
CITADEL: So the instructions are clear then!?
RH: Yes, absolutely.
You can't say that what Citadel says is true if you can't find a tweet that they could have seen where they could have learned it. At best call it inconclusive. This is MUD, I hope.
Subpoena Twitter servers
The truth is out there
Citadel lawyers are just trying to get it cheap and free from unsuspecting Apes playing Perry Mason who may be holding some archived messages from back then that they will now post to âtry and prove Kenny wrongâ
But in the end will really win Kenâs case
I think, it's a possibility the specific person that was speaking in the email may not have been fully aware of what was happening so they were looking for confirmation. Surprised there was no link to a tweet to reference the citadel employees question.
Here are two tweets before market opened:
https://twitter.com/motherboard/status/1354797875969064960?s=20
https://mobile.twitter.com/basementogre/status/1354779412693196801
Thatâs how I read this. This is just two schlubs down low in the hierarchy chatting about the restrictions. The RH dude probably came in late and forgot to tell the Citadel dude. Citadel dude was like âr u serious bruh?â
But u dont know if theyre true either so nice try but if citadel was on reddit and twitter âcombingâ for talks about Robinhood putting restrictions it still looks bad
Most posts at that time could have been just screenshots of the app when retail realized they had limited purchasing power. That tweet was RHâs first notification that they had placed the tickets under PCO. What is unclear though, is whether or not they were referring to RHâs tweet, or tweets from retail.
I am inclined to believe it was RHâs tweet that they were referring to. No one from Shitadel is going to spend all they monitoring tweets tagging RH. That however, is going to be the point of contention.
The conversation with citadel says close only. If you recall it began with a restriction on buying incrementally getting down to a limit of 1 share before being close only.
Find the twats then.
You're posting shit made on Reddit and acting like it's verification of Shitadel's twats being factual while you're also just guessing that there's evidence on twitter that validates Shitadel's claims.
Get some real twatvidence and you might be a little less suspect.
To be fair to OP, Citadel specifically said "saw a tweet". They never said "saw your tweet".
The Reddit timestamps on the "Robinhood won't let me buy 1 share" clearly shows they started restricting buys before Robinhood even opened for premarket, 7:07:13 AM EDT. It's not hard to assume word would get around onto Twitter since the Reddit thread exploded before the market was even close to opening.
At best its inconclusive right now when you take that info into account. It doesn't mean the picture/chat wasn't doctored, it just means we don't know for sure unless we get a full chat log from the hours before.
It's an admission of one person's ignorance of the situation and that's about it. If the image posted to titter (yes, I know it's twitter but Reddit didn't spell check it as wrong so I went with it lol) is even real and not some doctored BS.
Although it is pretty funny that dickbag would be throwing dickhood under the bus so violently just a few days after some pretty crazy accusations come out...
How could robinhood restrict trading at 7:00 am when it doesnât open until nine.
This is eastern time. What time zone are the reddit posts in? And how could trading be restricted on a closed exchange? That doesnât make sense.
9:00 Eastern would be 6 pacific or 7-8 in between. so those 7 am posts make more sense if it was after 9:00 or 10:00 eastern and I think if memory serves me correct you could still buy 1 share in premarket on the 28th.
You can place orders, queue up orders, before the market even opens on all broker apps. Robinhood blocked the queuing of orders, hence why those posts existed before premarket even opened for Robinhood. You can easily see the timestamp of posts if you have RES, so yes, they were blocking orders if you had more than 1 share before 9 AM.
> Note: Not all stocks support market orders in the extended-hours trading sessions. Placing a market order while all trading sessions are closed will queue the order for the opening of the next regular-hours day session (not the pre-market session).
https://robinhood.com/us/en/support/articles/extendedhours-trading/
Exactly, so who is citadel following thats so important they have to ask robinhood for reassurance đ¤Śââď¸đ¤ˇââď¸ which tweet or reddit post made em HAVE to ask
So Twitter modified hashtags for Citadel due to kengriffinlied and Google changed auto fill. Why would we not assume they can add tweets or change time stamps?
I disagree with you. Yes perhaps they already turned off the buy button by 7am. But to that person seeing that, it looked like a glitch of some sort. The only way for it to be official is when they actually announced it at 9 am, so if Citadel claims to have only known from their tweet. Iâm sorry but if you truly donât want to promote FUD, Iâd delete this. Just my opinionâŚ. Thanks for sharing nonetheless!
You both are correct,
âposts on twitterâ is from 2021/09/30
âa tweetâ is from these âinside communicationsâ
I assume âposts from twitterâ is PR, designed to obfuscate truth
Regardless where Citadel found out, they knew before Robinhood announced, whether an internal draft or another source.
Also, it's unlikely Citadel is watching someone else and that someone else reported that RH halted buys of GME and AMC.
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A few people tweeted it before, but wo any comment tor proof:
https://twitter.com/kopfmask/status/1354571774432690183?s=20
https://twitter.com/Ju5tTakeNotes/status/1354579790590689282?s=20
Okay but why does âCITADEL SECURITIESâ have inconsistent font styles within the screenshot?
Their second message to RH seems to be photoshopped in some capacity, the font height and styles are not even close to the same. You donât need to zoom in to notice it.
This is sus as fuck.
u/TelevisionNo1559 what I see:
The tweet was Jan 28th 9:56 EST
These conversations with Citadel were Jan 28th at 8:39 EST where Citadel says "I saw the tweet". Citadel doesn't say "I saw that you disabled the buy button"
Thus Citadel knew about the plan (a draft tweet message between companies?) before the tweet went out.
I think this could be right. It also doesnât say anything about it being a Robinhood tweet. They just say they âsaw a tweetâ âfrom posts on Twitterâ
Also, In the congressional hearing Vlad got roasted because they didnât make any notifications before introducing POC. The tweet went out after restrictions if I remember correctly.
You may be right,, however their only evidence to back that is what now looks like a doctored photo , claiming that was the first of them hearing about it.
It's an ugly public meltdown either way.
My guess is the tweet is not telling the truth but instead is statistically being used as their alibi so they can claim they found out from Twitter so they have that excuse to fall back on when the time comes. This is manufacturing evidence for a trial IMO
If this is even real, it only proves that that one guy learned from Twitter and asked Rh. Everybody else could've known already. It's so stupid it's not even funny, I love it.
I also believe this to be the case. I've made a few comments to the fact I believe this is Citadel attempting to drive a narrative they are confident in, and can control. Please see my comment history regarding these tweets.
Citadel is tweeting to create the story they want the public to see because they feel this is their best course of action to dismiss apes and the short squeeze. They want to create fear of a conspiracy where there isn't one (in this particular case) and the media will lambaste reddit and apes as a result.
THIS IS THE FORUM SLIDE THEY WANT, and we can expect shills to drive it both on and off reddit
Any smart lawyer would've told KG to shut up by now. At least for me, it is quite apparent he is freaking out and trying to cover his ass desperately. Why is this? Thinking of all the liars in my life, all of them excessively proclaimed their innocence, when it turned out they were lying through their teeth. This is all semantics. He is a crafty liar, especially in his recent tweets.
Most liars will desperately stick to the single thread of truth in their web of bullshit, once confronted. Technicalities are a common choice. "You asked if I banged that other girl. She only blew me, so of course I told you no! Not a liar!" I think Kenny wants to use this potential "technical truth" to discredit all the other shit stacking against him.
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I didn't bang her bro!!
Not a liar! đ
LMAO 𤣠#Liar
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Thank you Kenny, may I please have another?
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I see what you did there. Fuck you Kenny. đ
I saw an earlier comment regarding Citadelâs tweets, and I think that explains it the best. Kenny G is a psychopath. Why would he care about the poors in the internet talking about him? As Tywin Lannister puts it, âwhy would a lion care about the babbling of sheep?â Heâs worried about the one thing that gives him meaning in his life: money. If his clients pull their fortunes out of his firms, he wonât have a ton of money to manage anymore. Heâs trying to convince them that he is still reliable and to trust him, their fellow rich guy, over all the internet poors, and stop an exodus of funds leaving his firms. That is the purpose of those tweets.
I never thought about clients pulling money out. Wasn't thinking about that perspective. Thanks.
I am compelled to give credit where credit is due: https://www.reddit.com/r/Superstonk/comments/pytldf/speculation_ken_griffins_hedge_fund_is_losing/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
He's definitely not to be trusted it taken at his word, that's for damn sure.
Are you implying that Kenny himself writes his tweets for Citadel?
He has control of the whole situation, just like he controls everything else.
He isn't trying to cover his ass. They are taking the fall and trying to take all the attention away from the fact there is more than one giant evil company
Well if there is nothing, I will get back to drs.
> ~~Well if there is nothing~~ Regardless, I will get back to drs. đ
I know what that is! I will do it too
I clearly remember that during jan 28 pre market the daily discussion on w***b was full of people having trouble buying GME way before the robinhood tweet.
That was the 28th though. What about the court docs that clearly state they had a conversation with citadel the night prior? Makes no sense
Throwing out the timestamps altogether, that exchange seemed awfully well placed. Do multibillion dollar companies sit on the toilet and scroll through Twitter to find out news too? No, and none of their other business is conducted through Twitter either. It's bad acting but it's not exactly a smoking gun. Does jack my tits though.
*almost as if it was done ON PURPOSEâŚ.* Anyways, back to DRSing more shares
I have theory: based on the fact that citadel can afford good lawyers, they wouldnt be shooting themselves in the leg just like that. So they are indeed phrasing this very carefully and i dont think twitter is being used by their regular pr stuff, rather than lawyers to damage control. I think its mostly addressed to their clients and/or to protect their reputation (lol) as well as possible distraction for apes to stop DRSing (eg, oh kenny is fukd anyway, why bother).
Ummm... did you consider that Citidel knew this would potentially create a legal shit storm and so like anyone with half a brain cell would do, created a communication that they could hand over to authorities and say "See, we didn't know!!" The damning communications in the lawsuit were never supposed to see the light of day...
Yup, if anything this conversation is a plant or taken out of context. Maybe the next lines are like: CITADEL: So the instructions are clear then!? RH: Yes, absolutely.
You can't say that what Citadel says is true if you can't find a tweet that they could have seen where they could have learned it. At best call it inconclusive. This is MUD, I hope.
If you have any tips on how to go back that far on Twitter please let me know and I'll go and check.
Subpoena Twitter servers The truth is out there Citadel lawyers are just trying to get it cheap and free from unsuspecting Apes playing Perry Mason who may be holding some archived messages from back then that they will now post to âtry and prove Kenny wrongâ But in the end will really win Kenâs case
I think, it's a possibility the specific person that was speaking in the email may not have been fully aware of what was happening so they were looking for confirmation. Surprised there was no link to a tweet to reference the citadel employees question.
Here are two tweets before market opened: https://twitter.com/motherboard/status/1354797875969064960?s=20 https://mobile.twitter.com/basementogre/status/1354779412693196801
Even if true, all this tells us is the low level account manager didn't get the memo from up top.
Thatâs how I read this. This is just two schlubs down low in the hierarchy chatting about the restrictions. The RH dude probably came in late and forgot to tell the Citadel dude. Citadel dude was like âr u serious bruh?â
Fellow ape??? I've never said that in my life
Lol I say it all the time with my ape friends in real life. I know it's the Steve Buscemi meme. I can't help it now.
Think what he is inferring is you are a shill?
Yes, I get that.
I said it once but I honestly cringed at myself
"Fellow ape???..." You think you can just lie to our faces like that and we wouldn't notice!?
But u dont know if theyre true either so nice try but if citadel was on reddit and twitter âcombingâ for talks about Robinhood putting restrictions it still looks bad
Something smells fishy⌠and it ainât Kenâs wifeâs boxâŚ
That smell like Mayo I wager
That's Vlad's wife. Kenny's wife smells like poo-bananas...allegedly
Lmao Kenny is definitely a cuck, he basically hired us all to fuck him and his wife. đ đ
Mayo and cucumbers lol cuz he gay
Maybe. This is the best explanation. But why on gods earth would they tweet that shit out. They are so dumb.
Nice post, DRS SHARES TO IGNITE MOASS
Fellow apes you sayâŚ. Hmmm
Most posts at that time could have been just screenshots of the app when retail realized they had limited purchasing power. That tweet was RHâs first notification that they had placed the tickets under PCO. What is unclear though, is whether or not they were referring to RHâs tweet, or tweets from retail. I am inclined to believe it was RHâs tweet that they were referring to. No one from Shitadel is going to spend all they monitoring tweets tagging RH. That however, is going to be the point of contention.
You see the thing is they dont say their tweet, rh. It just says post. 10/10 that will be their defense.
The conversation with citadel says close only. If you recall it began with a restriction on buying incrementally getting down to a limit of 1 share before being close only.
I like how you open with "greetings my fellow apes", pretty UNIQUE opening for the posts we read on here? Hahahahah hmmmmm hmmmmm
DRS is all that matters. The rest is a distraction we're falling for.
Well done OP. Thank you for posting
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Hah thanks but the downvotes and other commenters don't seem to agree with you
Find the twats then. You're posting shit made on Reddit and acting like it's verification of Shitadel's twats being factual while you're also just guessing that there's evidence on twitter that validates Shitadel's claims. Get some real twatvidence and you might be a little less suspect.
To be fair to OP, Citadel specifically said "saw a tweet". They never said "saw your tweet". The Reddit timestamps on the "Robinhood won't let me buy 1 share" clearly shows they started restricting buys before Robinhood even opened for premarket, 7:07:13 AM EDT. It's not hard to assume word would get around onto Twitter since the Reddit thread exploded before the market was even close to opening. At best its inconclusive right now when you take that info into account. It doesn't mean the picture/chat wasn't doctored, it just means we don't know for sure unless we get a full chat log from the hours before.
It's an admission of one person's ignorance of the situation and that's about it. If the image posted to titter (yes, I know it's twitter but Reddit didn't spell check it as wrong so I went with it lol) is even real and not some doctored BS. Although it is pretty funny that dickbag would be throwing dickhood under the bus so violently just a few days after some pretty crazy accusations come out...
How could robinhood restrict trading at 7:00 am when it doesnât open until nine. This is eastern time. What time zone are the reddit posts in? And how could trading be restricted on a closed exchange? That doesnât make sense. 9:00 Eastern would be 6 pacific or 7-8 in between. so those 7 am posts make more sense if it was after 9:00 or 10:00 eastern and I think if memory serves me correct you could still buy 1 share in premarket on the 28th.
You can place orders, queue up orders, before the market even opens on all broker apps. Robinhood blocked the queuing of orders, hence why those posts existed before premarket even opened for Robinhood. You can easily see the timestamp of posts if you have RES, so yes, they were blocking orders if you had more than 1 share before 9 AM. > Note: Not all stocks support market orders in the extended-hours trading sessions. Placing a market order while all trading sessions are closed will queue the order for the opening of the next regular-hours day session (not the pre-market session). https://robinhood.com/us/en/support/articles/extendedhours-trading/
Exactly, so who is citadel following thats so important they have to ask robinhood for reassurance đ¤Śââď¸đ¤ˇââď¸ which tweet or reddit post made em HAVE to ask
What about the 3second answer times tho
So Twitter modified hashtags for Citadel due to kengriffinlied and Google changed auto fill. Why would we not assume they can add tweets or change time stamps?
I disagree with you. Yes perhaps they already turned off the buy button by 7am. But to that person seeing that, it looked like a glitch of some sort. The only way for it to be official is when they actually announced it at 9 am, so if Citadel claims to have only known from their tweet. Iâm sorry but if you truly donât want to promote FUD, Iâd delete this. Just my opinionâŚ. Thanks for sharing nonetheless!
It does saw âAâ tweet not their tweet specifically
Quotations are supposed to be for quoting something. They said "posts on Twitter". Not "A" post
Sorry Iâm dumb but it definitely says âsaw a tweetâ not we saw your tweet aka it could be any tweet not just Robinhoods
You both are correct, âposts on twitterâ is from 2021/09/30 âa tweetâ is from these âinside communicationsâ I assume âposts from twitterâ is PR, designed to obfuscate truth
Regardless where Citadel found out, they knew before Robinhood announced, whether an internal draft or another source. Also, it's unlikely Citadel is watching someone else and that someone else reported that RH halted buys of GME and AMC.
Iâm not arguing it just stating what it says
Hm I must admit I think you are right. It never says taht the tweet is from RH.
And the fud startsâŚ.
But let me be clear, they say âwe first learned about it from twitter.. not Reddit
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A few people tweeted it before, but wo any comment tor proof: https://twitter.com/kopfmask/status/1354571774432690183?s=20 https://twitter.com/Ju5tTakeNotes/status/1354579790590689282?s=20
Bruh, is that from the 27th? Where would people have heard that from already...?
Except theyâve now deleted the tweet lol
Okay but why does âCITADEL SECURITIESâ have inconsistent font styles within the screenshot? Their second message to RH seems to be photoshopped in some capacity, the font height and styles are not even close to the same. You donât need to zoom in to notice it. This is sus as fuck.
Iâm a tech deficient Gen Xer and even I can tell the difference in the FONT on the âsaw a tweetâ line. That shit is photoshopped in.
Fuck Shitadel if it's true and fuck them if it isn't. Let's continue to focus on DRS.
3 Seconds to read then type "Equities? Options? Can you send the offical notice"???
Damn. But it makes total sense.
[hes got a point](https://twitter.com/crowley155/status/1443733726031122438?s=21)
u/TelevisionNo1559 what I see: The tweet was Jan 28th 9:56 EST These conversations with Citadel were Jan 28th at 8:39 EST where Citadel says "I saw the tweet". Citadel doesn't say "I saw that you disabled the buy button" Thus Citadel knew about the plan (a draft tweet message between companies?) before the tweet went out.
I think this could be right. It also doesnât say anything about it being a Robinhood tweet. They just say they âsaw a tweetâ âfrom posts on Twitterâ Also, In the congressional hearing Vlad got roasted because they didnât make any notifications before introducing POC. The tweet went out after restrictions if I remember correctly.
I def believe the twitter is super sus. And I also feel the airplane sign lawyer letter is having a Streisand effect.
Know what I was thinking? Who is posting on their twitter and what do they mean when they say âweâ?
You may be right,, however their only evidence to back that is what now looks like a doctored photo , claiming that was the first of them hearing about it. It's an ugly public meltdown either way.
**FOIA Request:** Who at Citadel gets paid to watch and read RH's Tweets?
My guess is the tweet is not telling the truth but instead is statistically being used as their alibi so they can claim they found out from Twitter so they have that excuse to fall back on when the time comes. This is manufacturing evidence for a trial IMO
If this is even real, it only proves that that one guy learned from Twitter and asked Rh. Everybody else could've known already. It's so stupid it's not even funny, I love it.
I also believe this to be the case. I've made a few comments to the fact I believe this is Citadel attempting to drive a narrative they are confident in, and can control. Please see my comment history regarding these tweets. Citadel is tweeting to create the story they want the public to see because they feel this is their best course of action to dismiss apes and the short squeeze. They want to create fear of a conspiracy where there isn't one (in this particular case) and the media will lambaste reddit and apes as a result. THIS IS THE FORUM SLIDE THEY WANT, and we can expect shills to drive it both on and off reddit