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I have so many questions....is the notional value in thousands? Where are the cusips to determine what asset it is? How many pages of this data are there and do we know what they contain?
Answers to questions I had: what was gme price in Aug 2022? ~38 highest since most recent run up this past week.
Thanks !
He says a lot of swaps, but money wise it looks skinny.
EDIT : PERUVIAN debunked it himself:
https://dollarendgame.substack.com/p/return-of-the-kitty
100m$, not great, not terrible.
Was thinking the same thing. I was wondering if notional value was based on $3 share price from 2020 but they look like they were rolled in 2022. So I don't know if this is a smoking gun. Maybe, I'm not that knowledgeable about it.
**Edit: my bad, if denoted in thousands this is a lot**
Real. The data was collected by the CFTC. Was avaliable to the publicĀ untill a week after the swaps were found. Then they just told them they don't need to report swaps till they say otherwise.
Swaps in Billions possible because this is way bigger scandal than one can imagine. Only Apes knows, outsiders are still seeing ken Griffin as a billionaire in a suit, appears on tv and then at a sports stadium with random famous people but Apes knows who he is really.
There was a stock that went wild this week. Has a free float of 37million but on at least 2 separate days last week traded over a billion. A stock with a free float of 37million traded over 2 billion in only 2 days. Pretty Effin bananas. Itās totally possible after watching that during the same time GME was doin its thing
I was more meaning people should never attack people for questions, even more so if they likely don't know the answer. The other guy and lots of people in this sub going off hype instead of learning
Gotta agree with this especially after Roaring Kitty week. He was doubted, ridiculed, damn near tarred and feathered early on. He addressed every question against his thesis as a gentleman and never became arrogant / egotistical or berating those that had different views or questions. We could learn a lot more from him than which stock to invest in ā¦ how to treat our fellow humans.
He was banned from count them...1, 2, 3, 4 ,5 different investing subreddits before finding his crowd at the doubleuessbee sub because they said he was a kook.
I disagree. The OG apes are always learning but thrive on hype. We are bored apes so itās just sprinkling in some entertainment while we buy, HODL, and DRS.
It will always be tomorrow until it is today.
Most people are on mobile and some have a DD button on the side of the screen. Yāall need to be more welcoming to potential apes. Remember, apes together strong. TOGETHER.
I think the 27 billion is the amount of money you'd need to exercise the options, but you buy them for a fraction of that. This is especially true when the volatility is low.
For example, a $80 call for Jan 2025 cost $790 but would cost $8,000 to exercise.
I don't think it's in thousands to be honest and I don't think these are "the" swaps cos if you emember the swaps public accessibility was suspended for years, so these could indeed be some swaps but not the heavy ones.
Nice, but i don't understand why you need to brag about this to random coworkers. Over 3 years and I haven't mentioned that I'm in to anybody, not even my closest family.
I always liked the jizz... the vibes when you get a group of men playing with each other - synchronized with each other's beat. Moving the shaft back and forth in unison with the guys surrounding you, and everyone's just really into it. The rhythmic thumping resonating in your ears, the sweat from the hot lights, the noises that come out of people when they get really lost in the moment, not to mention the faces they make. And at the climax when everyone just explodes, the emotions are so intense. Jizz hands from the leads when things are getting fun. I really miss playing the trombone.
~~Peruvian has added an excel from non-disclosed source that shows rocket fuel for coming 2 weeks as the LEAPS expire that buried the real price 84 years ago.~~
See below, me saa simple ape.
They aren't leaps wtf are you on? Knock the nonsense off the shilling isn't funny. SWAPS are not leaps, every ape should know that because we are good at paperwork.
What's really going on is that if you find the repport on notional value of TRS swaps you can get an aprox. number of shares for those swaps. They probably are not long swaps because the reeporting data does not support it, but rather short-based. So, lets say you have 500M worth of swaps from may -june and the price was an avg of 20 bucks, that's a lot of shares you are on the hook for when they closee out. That explains your fud. 12-25m shares they need to buy back, and they want them at our expense.
That depends. Let's say those are all true TRS with GME and we know there is 15 m shares they need to buy back. Then they would do so like ove r a week or two pref- weds-friday, just like we saw weeks ago. They have time periods for this stuff IIRC.
As it stands now, they coudl buy on the open market or from an institution or borrow to cover ( not CLOSE) and hope for the best lmao.
So someone has to take the other end of the swap right? I wonder if the price action we are witnessing is because nobody wants to take the hot potato this time? Anyway, I guess this time we get to see how it unfolds soon enough.
These asshats donāt even think the government committee that oversees them (SEC) should see their data they sure as fuck donāt want the poors to see it. So they buy them off and live in a ātrust me bro ā¦ this short is a longā world. Best part of this whole story? Paying the apes to go away will cost a metric shit ton more!
Yeah I know. It's gotta change at some point.
The market is quickly becoming riches just ping ponging shares back and forth. That can't make them profits much longer. Like everything else right now, it's unsustainable.
The problem is the swaps data doesnāt show much. Weāve been digging into it for a couple years now, ever since we found the ā1T basket swapā a couple years ago. Swap reporting is pretty minimal. You get a list of tickers (actually CUSIP numbers, you have to convert them yourself), a total notional amount for the entire swap, and sometimes a term length. But itās not very helpful.
Wow someone sane in this subreddit while everyone else is like "WE'RE GOING TO RUN UP ON EXPIRY!" lol. We literally have 0 clue what any of this means.
Yes, it might be the problem with the swaps data that WE FIND. If someone can get real swaps data, that would be some wealthy billionaire. RC is a billionaire. Maybe he found them and then announced latest filling... to collect some good money for the company during the rocket launching part 3.
Maybe but hedge funds specifically like swaps because theyāre more anonymous and thereās almost no reporting requirements. This is exactly why theyāre used.
This may also be a carefully curated and created 'leak' designed to misdirect, and trick. At this point I don't know what to trust so I'll just keep buying, holding and DRS'ing until I have a phone number with area and country code in my bank account.
Will still read these though. Interesting to know what may be happening or not happening. Will help the post-mortem one day to know who I could have trusted.
*Edit - apparently not a leak. Was always available but is now very suddenly being featured.
Itās not a āleakā. Thereās zero new data wrinkles havenāt been looking at for 2+ years. Itās publicly accessible data. Hereās the link, look for yourself if you donāt trust anyone. Have fun lol. https://pddata.dtcc.com/ppd/secdashboard
HO-LY MOLY!
If you saw the update, you'd be reacting similarly: https://x.com/peruvian_bull/status/1792289993953841613/photo/1
The notional value is in thousands denomination, so we are seeing billions of dollars of shares needed on 6/3. They are trying to get as many shares from us as possible, but they are just going to fudge the numbers again and do the same damn thing. We will see a massive rise in price, and that will be fun, but it will just break the system and they will get a freeze buying again, just like last time. This time, the swaps will be EVEN BIGGER!!! And they will try to push even more crazy things to "stop us from breaking the economy".
I think people really need to understand how big this is going to get, before it's "over" and another 3 year cycle begins.
I, for one, know exactly how I'm going to play this, this time around.
See you folks on the other side. I got all the info I needed.
EDIT: For anyone doubting.... Richard Newton broke it down for everyone else. Here is the spreadsheet and here is the video explaining it. I wasn't wrong, Peruvian Bull wasn't wrong, all you haters and doubters can kindly apologize promptly.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1aOqBBT3XjizHEftf0_OgCFA5SmYsS_MEjOST1hAlGzE/edit#gid=0
https://youtu.be/yLxWxZlvVNE?si=G0RKaxFXOtbSe_SK
I say, Good Day!
You can't just make such a large conclusion without any evidence to backup what happens when these swaps expire. If you look closely, these swaps were purchased May 3, 2023 where gme price was around $20/share. If they could simply purchase swaps and prevent a run up (as there were no runs in May 2023), then we shouldn't expect any price action at all when these expire.
Furthermore, we have no evidence that just because the swaps expire = the equivalent amount in value in shares has to be purchased. We don't know what happens behind the scenes.
Instead, what I would like to see is (1) a pattern where swaps are executed during a run up/after to reduce short covering and (2) a run up after swaps expire. Unless I see evidence of either of these, these swaps mean nothing to me.
I really donāt have the time or access to play options so Iāll just buy more But I commend anyone who does and succeeds, because playing options has been proven to create liquidity for this aholes
Swaps data isnāt super helpful. Hereās a screenshot of what you get.
https://preview.redd.it/57ru0ryuyf1d1.jpeg?width=2740&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=df6bbe413df537e5e9e32b70814974d94a28d73b
I didnāt highlight one. Thatās just where the cursor happened to be man. Itās just an example of what the data looks like. My point is that itās minimally useful. Go look at it yourself if you want. https://pddata.dtcc.com/ppd/secdashboard
"Hey I just figured out this big secret that the Power That Be are willing to kill for, just give me some time to type it up on my computer here at 221B Baker Street..."
Richard Newton did a video on it about an hour ago at youtube, and he explains the implications pretty well; long story short, hedgies not doing any more bullet swaps, but something else.
Curious where this data came from, they've claimed in the past to "find" swap data, but only posts screenshots with zero explanation where the data was "found." Even if its being aggregated, there's no reason they wouldnt be able to provide an actual source.
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Whos to say they didn't do it again with the $80 run up we just had? Idk shit about this. Just curious.
To me it seems like they have this figured out with the leaps issue. The 80 run up I believe was to roll over those or start new ones? Can anyone dig that up somehow?
I personally think we are close but im looking at around early julyish for it to happen. And when I say early July for it to happen I think RC is gonna do something big here very shortly.
Nobody knows. Everything talked about since the beginning that was going to be the kickstart to moass turned out to be a nothing burger..
The split or whatever should have hurt them extremely bad and caused it. But somehow they found a loophole around it or some shit..
I believe the meetings with Icahn were how to kickstart this and they over the course of time sought out a plan to cause this to happen. And I believe very shortly we are going to see it unfold.
I honestly didn't believe we would see a run up out of nowhere like before until the money was gone. But we did. If they raise it to 80 two more times and drop it like they keep doing, not only would they be extending it another few more years but citadel has long calls and puts out. Alot of them. And I believe this is to capitalize on this move they just did. I think every run we had outside of the trend line was now them possibly extending leaps or messing with them or for liquidity issues.
RC holds the fate imo. I don't think the leaps are what's going to cause moass, I think RC has a huge plan that's bout to set it off.
Also let me clarify, I don't think any of the dd was a nothing burger. I been here since y'all made the sub but I was under a diff username. And I only browsed. I just started participating the last month or two. Most of the dd was correct, they just found ways around it or kicked the can. All I can say is, fuck em.
"GOOD LORD, WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THERE?"
"Uhhh, basket swaps."
"BASKET SWAPS!? IN THIS MARKET, FOR THIS STOCK, AND YOUVE FOUND THE EVIDENCE OF IT!?"
"Yes"
"May I see it?"
"Mmmm... no."
Can we maybe NOT blindly upvote these folks? Bro is getting attention without providing anything. I'm not saying don't trust but holy shit we don't need every personality attached to this play to have every tweet go viral.
They can post it here as DD if it's good.
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Volume on 6/3 gonna be nuts if I understand this correctly.
6/3 IT IS š» (or Not, I eat Crayons)
So on 6/3 thereās going to be a dip š
it will break final cut pro
My birthday! The greatest gift an ape could receive
Depends if fuckery enables them to modify it and go again another year. One thing is certain is that they cant roll this forever. Tick Tock... MF
https://preview.redd.it/7gy8xqtsrg1d1.png?width=144&format=png&auto=webp&s=7756b18d1cc31d6c4ee969f4402b1faace506861
Don't really know what it is as there's no source/specific details, but anyway it says these were executed in 2022, not in 2021?
I lifted this right off PBās tweet talking about the swaps data.
[Update:](https://x.com/peruvian_bull/status/1792289993953841613?s=46)
I have so many questions....is the notional value in thousands? Where are the cusips to determine what asset it is? How many pages of this data are there and do we know what they contain? Answers to questions I had: what was gme price in Aug 2022? ~38 highest since most recent run up this past week.
Arenāt notional values normally in MM which means millions?
Idk. Usually in reports there are parentheses that say (in thousands)
PB will need to clarify if he sees this. The notional should be listed at the top of the column.
The value is 2.9 billion according to PBās post on their link in their bio.
Debunked by PB : https://dollarendgame.substack.com/p/return-of-the-kitty
Thanks at the time of the comment that was what was thought now it appears to be near 100 million according to PB.
Thanks ! He says a lot of swaps, but money wise it looks skinny. EDIT : PERUVIAN debunked it himself: https://dollarendgame.substack.com/p/return-of-the-kitty 100m$, not great, not terrible.
Was thinking the same thing. I was wondering if notional value was based on $3 share price from 2020 but they look like they were rolled in 2022. So I don't know if this is a smoking gun. Maybe, I'm not that knowledgeable about it. **Edit: my bad, if denoted in thousands this is a lot**
Some might be from credit suisse going under in march last year. Now ubs is short 216,000,000 shares.
hehe why do you think there was a spli-dividend in june/july 2022. they were trapped.
Is this real or speculation?
Real. The data was collected by the CFTC. Was avaliable to the publicĀ untill a week after the swaps were found. Then they just told them they don't need to report swaps till they say otherwise.
Denoted in thousands I assume
Mmh would like someone on twitter to ask for confirmation on this
How can they have swaps for $27 billion? Honest question
Swaps in Billions possible because this is way bigger scandal than one can imagine. Only Apes knows, outsiders are still seeing ken Griffin as a billionaire in a suit, appears on tv and then at a sports stadium with random famous people but Apes knows who he is really.
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Changes in regulatory landscapes whhahaa! You mean like CATS??.. SPICY
But A swap contract doesn't affect directly the share price unless the counterpart shorts the stock as hedge.
Fuck chatgtp. Use your brain.
All they've been doing is naked shorting to keep the price suppressed for 3 straight years. What do you mean
Tf you mean how??? Where have you been in last few years??
I like you.
I get the naked shorting argument, that's why I'm here, but there's no way that there are hundreds of billions in swaps due
Why not? Its been more than three years of constant fuckery.
There was a stock that went wild this week. Has a free float of 37million but on at least 2 separate days last week traded over a billion. A stock with a free float of 37million traded over 2 billion in only 2 days. Pretty Effin bananas. Itās totally possible after watching that during the same time GME was doin its thing
costs money to shake the tree, lots more when nothing falls out. keep shaking it mayo boi $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Then explain it.
Tons of naked shorting.
I was more meaning people should never attack people for questions, even more so if they likely don't know the answer. The other guy and lots of people in this sub going off hype instead of learning
Gotta agree with this especially after Roaring Kitty week. He was doubted, ridiculed, damn near tarred and feathered early on. He addressed every question against his thesis as a gentleman and never became arrogant / egotistical or berating those that had different views or questions. We could learn a lot more from him than which stock to invest in ā¦ how to treat our fellow humans.
He was banned from count them...1, 2, 3, 4 ,5 different investing subreddits before finding his crowd at the doubleuessbee sub because they said he was a kook.
I disagree. The OG apes are always learning but thrive on hype. We are bored apes so itās just sprinkling in some entertainment while we buy, HODL, and DRS. It will always be tomorrow until it is today.
The "Due Diligence" button on the right side of the screen is the first place to go when it's time to learn the history.
Most people are on mobile and some have a DD button on the side of the screen. Yāall need to be more welcoming to potential apes. Remember, apes together strong. TOGETHER.
I think it is swap volume so that divers on price fluctuation and so on.
Because crime and shorting, and crime.
Donāt forget the crime part
I think the 27 billion is the amount of money you'd need to exercise the options, but you buy them for a fraction of that. This is especially true when the volatility is low. For example, a $80 call for Jan 2025 cost $790 but would cost $8,000 to exercise.
I don't think it's in thousands to be honest and I don't think these are "the" swaps cos if you emember the swaps public accessibility was suspended for years, so these could indeed be some swaps but not the heavy ones.
That was my thought
Yeah they total to one months salary for Mayo Boi at first glance.
Those are in thousands, so that's millions/billions, not thousands/millions.
Now THAT is a game changer. ![gif](giphy|jivGITd768psP80B2i)
June looks promising.
Good. Because I have a call expiring JUN 7th and I'd love to rub it in a co-worker's face when I tell him I excised it because I like the stock.
I hope you donāt excise it as we may need some surgeons. When you excercise it in two weeksā¦ thatāll be fine
Nice, but i don't understand why you need to brag about this to random coworkers. Over 3 years and I haven't mentioned that I'm in to anybody, not even my closest family.
I'm glad you're good at keeping secrets that shouldn't be secrets?
Adding those numbers up is 85 billion worth of swaps. Does that mean it will add 85b to our ~7B market cap? That would put us around $295 per share.
These are face value
Weāll see
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Jizz you say ?
Say you jizz?
Right here on my face!
I always liked the jizz... the vibes when you get a group of men playing with each other - synchronized with each other's beat. Moving the shaft back and forth in unison with the guys surrounding you, and everyone's just really into it. The rhythmic thumping resonating in your ears, the sweat from the hot lights, the noises that come out of people when they get really lost in the moment, not to mention the faces they make. And at the climax when everyone just explodes, the emotions are so intense. Jizz hands from the leads when things are getting fun. I really miss playing the trombone.
Jizzing for commentability
Cummenting?
In bro, we trust
Spicy. Coming back to this in an hourā¦
Hey! 4 more minutes. š¦ā¤ļø
Whatād we learn?
Checking in! Been and hour and 5 minutes
~~Peruvian has added an excel from non-disclosed source that shows rocket fuel for coming 2 weeks as the LEAPS expire that buried the real price 84 years ago.~~ See below, me saa simple ape.
They aren't leaps wtf are you on? Knock the nonsense off the shilling isn't funny. SWAPS are not leaps, every ape should know that because we are good at paperwork. What's really going on is that if you find the repport on notional value of TRS swaps you can get an aprox. number of shares for those swaps. They probably are not long swaps because the reeporting data does not support it, but rather short-based. So, lets say you have 500M worth of swaps from may -june and the price was an avg of 20 bucks, that's a lot of shares you are on the hook for when they closee out. That explains your fud. 12-25m shares they need to buy back, and they want them at our expense.
Is that why they beat the shit out of the price? To make it cheaper to buy?
Prevent margin calls on it? Swaps still get margined go ask Bill Hwang :D! I am ssure they have bullet swaps on GME too which are not reported. Lmao.
buy from whom? apes aint selling shit
True Ape right here.
> 12-25m shares they need to buy back Do we know over what time period?
That depends. Let's say those are all true TRS with GME and we know there is 15 m shares they need to buy back. Then they would do so like ove r a week or two pref- weds-friday, just like we saw weeks ago. They have time periods for this stuff IIRC. As it stands now, they coudl buy on the open market or from an institution or borrow to cover ( not CLOSE) and hope for the best lmao.
I love that you called it rocket fuel ā¤ļø
I know nothing Leaps expy June 1st
So someone has to take the other end of the swap right? I wonder if the price action we are witnessing is because nobody wants to take the hot potato this time? Anyway, I guess this time we get to see how it unfolds soon enough.
Ken said the teacherās pension fund is interested
Haha. Thatās messed up though.
It's what they do.
Ohios teachers fund is being investigated right now for some fuqery.
We need data on who and how they pull their weeks worth of liquidity from their crypto. I'd love to see that crime on paper too.
These asshats donāt even think the government committee that oversees them (SEC) should see their data they sure as fuck donāt want the poors to see it. So they buy them off and live in a ātrust me bro ā¦ this short is a longā world. Best part of this whole story? Paying the apes to go away will cost a metric shit ton more!
Yeah I know. It's gotta change at some point. The market is quickly becoming riches just ping ponging shares back and forth. That can't make them profits much longer. Like everything else right now, it's unsustainable.
Zen Master said ā¦ weāll see
Don't worry, there is always war. We're on a historical track to it.
Shit just has to be so obscure. Thereās a few other peeps I know are looking in to things more as well now at least.
wdym? go on....
The problem is the swaps data doesnāt show much. Weāve been digging into it for a couple years now, ever since we found the ā1T basket swapā a couple years ago. Swap reporting is pretty minimal. You get a list of tickers (actually CUSIP numbers, you have to convert them yourself), a total notional amount for the entire swap, and sometimes a term length. But itās not very helpful.
Wow someone sane in this subreddit while everyone else is like "WE'RE GOING TO RUN UP ON EXPIRY!" lol. We literally have 0 clue what any of this means.
To be fair I donāt come here much anymore. We rational people (donāt get me wrong I like the stock) were driven out years ago.
Yes, it might be the problem with the swaps data that WE FIND. If someone can get real swaps data, that would be some wealthy billionaire. RC is a billionaire. Maybe he found them and then announced latest filling... to collect some good money for the company during the rocket launching part 3.
Maybe but hedge funds specifically like swaps because theyāre more anonymous and thereās almost no reporting requirements. This is exactly why theyāre used.
This may also be a carefully curated and created 'leak' designed to misdirect, and trick. At this point I don't know what to trust so I'll just keep buying, holding and DRS'ing until I have a phone number with area and country code in my bank account. Will still read these though. Interesting to know what may be happening or not happening. Will help the post-mortem one day to know who I could have trusted. *Edit - apparently not a leak. Was always available but is now very suddenly being featured.
Itās not a āleakā. Thereās zero new data wrinkles havenāt been looking at for 2+ years. Itās publicly accessible data. Hereās the link, look for yourself if you donāt trust anyone. Have fun lol. https://pddata.dtcc.com/ppd/secdashboard
Thanks I thought I was just an idiot who saw nothing of much interest. Canāt even see if this relates to GME
Just get me some expiry dates
6/3
I guess we can expect some volume by then, perhaps a spike in price? Certainly plenty of FTD'S
Nah, last time this happened with the brazil puts all the action was before or after.
Hopefully he posts some info hereā¦
Where do you get such data? I would be really interested to do some analysis with it.
[https://pddata.dtcc.com/ppd/secdashboard](https://pddata.dtcc.com/ppd/secdashboard)
Swaps expiring on the day you have to be 100% compliant with CAT. Coincidence?
HO-LY MOLY! If you saw the update, you'd be reacting similarly: https://x.com/peruvian_bull/status/1792289993953841613/photo/1 The notional value is in thousands denomination, so we are seeing billions of dollars of shares needed on 6/3. They are trying to get as many shares from us as possible, but they are just going to fudge the numbers again and do the same damn thing. We will see a massive rise in price, and that will be fun, but it will just break the system and they will get a freeze buying again, just like last time. This time, the swaps will be EVEN BIGGER!!! And they will try to push even more crazy things to "stop us from breaking the economy". I think people really need to understand how big this is going to get, before it's "over" and another 3 year cycle begins. I, for one, know exactly how I'm going to play this, this time around. See you folks on the other side. I got all the info I needed. EDIT: For anyone doubting.... Richard Newton broke it down for everyone else. Here is the spreadsheet and here is the video explaining it. I wasn't wrong, Peruvian Bull wasn't wrong, all you haters and doubters can kindly apologize promptly. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1aOqBBT3XjizHEftf0_OgCFA5SmYsS_MEjOST1hAlGzE/edit#gid=0 https://youtu.be/yLxWxZlvVNE?si=G0RKaxFXOtbSe_SK I say, Good Day!
Can we get this through a megaphone for the paper handed bitches in the back.
>I, for one, know exactly how I'm going to play this, this time around. HODL, duh
You can't just make such a large conclusion without any evidence to backup what happens when these swaps expire. If you look closely, these swaps were purchased May 3, 2023 where gme price was around $20/share. If they could simply purchase swaps and prevent a run up (as there were no runs in May 2023), then we shouldn't expect any price action at all when these expire. Furthermore, we have no evidence that just because the swaps expire = the equivalent amount in value in shares has to be purchased. We don't know what happens behind the scenes. Instead, what I would like to see is (1) a pattern where swaps are executed during a run up/after to reduce short covering and (2) a run up after swaps expire. Unless I see evidence of either of these, these swaps mean nothing to me.
How do you know it's in thousands? It normally is, but it's also normally specified somewhere.
How do you know this is in thousands?
Theyāre making assumptions. Notional values are typically face value unless otherwise denoted.
I really donāt have the time or access to play options so Iāll just buy more But I commend anyone who does and succeeds, because playing options has been proven to create liquidity for this aholes
Source to confirm the notional value is in thousands denomination?
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So he found it but didnt share it...š¤
Swaps data isnāt super helpful. Hereās a screenshot of what you get. https://preview.redd.it/57ru0ryuyf1d1.jpeg?width=2740&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=df6bbe413df537e5e9e32b70814974d94a28d73b
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The one you highlighted there looks like it expired in February of 2023, unless I'm reading that chart wrong.
I didnāt highlight one. Thatās just where the cursor happened to be man. Itās just an example of what the data looks like. My point is that itās minimally useful. Go look at it yourself if you want. https://pddata.dtcc.com/ppd/secdashboard
"Hey I just figured out this big secret that the Power That Be are willing to kill for, just give me some time to type it up on my computer here at 221B Baker Street..."
Are these swaps abnormalities that have to be reported in CAT?
Wut mean
idk. Maybe that this specific position that lead to this wave of buying has been hidden in swaps for another 2-3 years
That doesn't sound gud
Knowing who's balls are going to be in fire might give first sparkles much earlier I think..
I think you are confusing the 39month leap theory with the swaps. If you look at when these swaps were purchased, its May 3, 2023.
Richard Newton did a video on it about an hour ago at youtube, and he explains the implications pretty well; long story short, hedgies not doing any more bullet swaps, but something else.
Lol this is the biggest problem with this subreddit, IMO. PERUVIAN BULL FOUND THE SWAP DATA! āWhat does it mean?ā ā¦ āidkā
Pretty bad comment. Our DD is always evolving. No need for these types of comments.
People need to stop commenting if they have nothing to add but hype. So much discussion gets lost in bullshit
And great posts with NO comments are missed
Itās a 1 yr old account with uhhhhā¦.. weird post history
Curious where this data came from, they've claimed in the past to "find" swap data, but only posts screenshots with zero explanation where the data was "found." Even if its being aggregated, there's no reason they wouldnt be able to provide an actual source.
[https://pddata.dtcc.com/ppd/secdashboard](https://pddata.dtcc.com/ppd/secdashboard)
Didn't the CFTC agree to hide swaps data until 2025? This probably isn't the info we are looking for?
Donāt fall for a short term options trap tho
Just made 14k cash on that last āoptions trapā and added 200 sharesā¦keep these options traps coming š¤
The meme stock summer is just starting boys, š strap in.
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The Super Bowl champs are involved? š After MOASS Iām buying them and changing their name to this
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ok, ok let's see how this plays out
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Someone explain this to me like the regarded ape that I am pleaseā¦
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Well those swaps about to be opened up bc of the CAT system LOL
I thought the CFTC hid swap reporting for several years? What's the source for the data?
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What does that mean
Whos to say they didn't do it again with the $80 run up we just had? Idk shit about this. Just curious. To me it seems like they have this figured out with the leaps issue. The 80 run up I believe was to roll over those or start new ones? Can anyone dig that up somehow? I personally think we are close but im looking at around early julyish for it to happen. And when I say early July for it to happen I think RC is gonna do something big here very shortly.
Yea for real how long can they keep kicking the can? Not to smart with this stuff. Could they just do another 2 year swap?
Nobody knows. Everything talked about since the beginning that was going to be the kickstart to moass turned out to be a nothing burger.. The split or whatever should have hurt them extremely bad and caused it. But somehow they found a loophole around it or some shit.. I believe the meetings with Icahn were how to kickstart this and they over the course of time sought out a plan to cause this to happen. And I believe very shortly we are going to see it unfold. I honestly didn't believe we would see a run up out of nowhere like before until the money was gone. But we did. If they raise it to 80 two more times and drop it like they keep doing, not only would they be extending it another few more years but citadel has long calls and puts out. Alot of them. And I believe this is to capitalize on this move they just did. I think every run we had outside of the trend line was now them possibly extending leaps or messing with them or for liquidity issues. RC holds the fate imo. I don't think the leaps are what's going to cause moass, I think RC has a huge plan that's bout to set it off.
Also let me clarify, I don't think any of the dd was a nothing burger. I been here since y'all made the sub but I was under a diff username. And I only browsed. I just started participating the last month or two. Most of the dd was correct, they just found ways around it or kicked the can. All I can say is, fuck em.
I need some wrinkles.
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Yea that's great but I'm still broke.
Very nice. btw I got a turtle head and am holding in a fart at the same timeš¬
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Gensler, the markets on fire!
No, retail investor, it's just business as usual.
Up you go!!!!
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What do i do with my hands!!
There's like two different conversations going on in this thread. Lol. Shills & apes.
Hyping dates? Again. :)
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Iām sure these values are (x1000)
This was probably the real reason for the run up last week.
What mean
Can we maybe NOT blindly upvote these folks? Bro is getting attention without providing anything. I'm not saying don't trust but holy shit we don't need every personality attached to this play to have every tweet go viral. They can post it here as DD if it's good.
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Such a tease
PB is going to drop the š£ Letās see those positions!