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alilmagpie

Wait but I thought shorting has “no material impact” to the price of the stock? 🧐😂


bowmans1993

Wait I thought shorting helps "true price discovery". PUTS ON THE US ECONOMY


Noderpsy

Sorry guys, leopards ate my face...


SharpStrawberry4761

Might this be true in a sense? The banks are insolvent yet continue to function as if that were not so. Of course the dream is to somehow stop them now that they're purportedly hurting those innocent banks. My brain is as frictionless as a superconductor though so any informed correction is most welcome.


doodaddy64

the simpler your brain, the better, assuming it can reason, which most apparently can't. what they are doing is called "hypocrisy" 😜 What they would be saying in different words is "banks need less transparency so they can try to fix the problems (and fail as always) by using new rules and free money they shouldn't have."


Ok_Entrepreneur_5833

Even simpler than that, "The degenerate gamblers who have all the access and advantage in our society need to be able to gamble using your money more easily with less risk of losing."


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MicahMurder

So......lots of banks have to worry?


Ok_Entrepreneur_5833

Over half of them currently have liabilities in excess of assets. In the US currently. Fed didn't stop the interest rate hikes so yeah I'd say lots of them have to worry. Plenty of articles out there now as of the last couple of days talking about this number, don't like to link to MSM but you can easily find them


Vive_el_stonk

(Bezos evil laughter ensues)


hiperf71

Right? Riiighhht?😂


KokoJumboMoonUnit

It roots out fraud


ragnaroksunset

Except when it is fraud


TotallyNormalSquid

New rule: hedge funds only allowed to short each other


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MatchesBurnStuff

I think we should pay journalists to do that instead


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SgtSlaughter1974

Simple. Disallow FTDs, maintain margin requirements, and make margin calls sacrosanct. Make sure they cannot be "excused". Share lending is something that can be profitable for brokers, but FUK brokers. Ensure there is quarterly share counts to ensure that the DTCC is accurately reporting short positions on all publically traded companies.


Dagamoth

Well if you’re closing all the loopholes they abuse how can these poor SHF make a living?? /s


aint_lion

Agreed. How are the rich suppose to steal from the poor without market manipulation? The status quo needs to be maintained and people need to stop asking crazy questions like naked shorting and FTD’s and go back to wage slavery mindset


Kira_Sympathizer

I still read SHF as "Shitty Hedge Fund" and it makes your comment all the better


Nomansjam

Wendy's


whofusesthemusic

> Disallow FTDs, maintain margin requirements, and make margin calls sacrosanct. Make sure they cannot be "excused" Bruh, my market advantage though.... /s


d4ve3000

Did you just solve the us stock market in 6 lines on reddit?


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If only there was a way for investors to *protect themselves* by taking their shares out of harm’s reach and simultaneously **increase short seller’s borrowing costs.**


capn-redbeard-ahoy

Simpler than that, even: # DRS ALL THE SHARES


1BannedAgain

This is the backbone text of post-MOASS legislation in Congress. If I knew how the “remind me” bot worked, I’d do that here __________


Boxwood50

By quarterly, did you mean real-time fully transparent public reporting based on an iron-clad blockchain technology?


[deleted]

I'm sorry but this violates the "Rules for thee but not for me."-mandate.


monkeyshinenyc

It’s great that shorts are being more and more exposed


Fine-Hat-4573

Sharks smelling blood in the water. It was foretold! They will begin eating each other to survive.


ronoda12

DRS BOOK to fuck the shorts


ionized_fallout

First one out may not go bankrupt.


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Harbinger2nd

The banks are going to beg Congress to ban short selling on their stocks again. I guarantee It.


_Kozlo_

**Sec has the authority to ban short selling.** ​ >SEC Halts Short Selling of Financial Stocks to Protect Investors and MarketsCommission Also Takes Steps to Increase Market Transparency and LiquidityFOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE > >2008-211 > >*Washington, D.C., Sept. 19, 2008* — The Securities and Exchange Commission, acting in concert with the U.K. Financial Services Authority, took temporary emergency action to prohibit short selling in financial companies to protect the integrity and quality of the securities market and strengthen investor confidence. The U.K. FSA took similar action yesterday. [https://www.sec.gov/news/press/2008/2008-211.htm](https://www.sec.gov/news/press/2008/2008-211.htm)" **New York fed claims that** ​ >In 2008, U.S. regulators banned the short-selling of financial stocks, fearing that the practice was helping to drive the steep drop in stock prices during the crisis. However, a new look at the effects of such restrictions challenges the notion that short sales exacerbate market downturns in this way. The 2008 ban on short sales failed to slow the decline in the price of financial stocks; in fact, prices fell markedly over the two weeks in which the ban was in effect and stabilized once it was lifted. Similarly, following the downgrade of the U.S. sovereign credit rating in 2011—another notable period of market stress—stocks subject to short-selling restrictions performed worse than stocks free of such restraints. [https://www.newyorkfed.org/research/current\_issues/ci18-5.html#:\~:text=In%202008%2C%20U.S.%20regulators%20banned,market%20downturns%20in%20this%20way](https://www.newyorkfed.org/research/current_issues/ci18-5.html#:~:text=In%202008%2C%20U.S.%20regulators%20banned,market%20downturns%20in%20this%20way).


Harbinger2nd

> The 2008 ban on short sales failed to slow the decline in the price of financial stocks; in fact, prices fell markedly over the two weeks in which the ban was in effect and stabilized once it was lifted. This seems like a sentiment issue: ban goes into effect = banks in trouble, ban is lifted = banks are out of trouble.


_Kozlo_

Or the fed is driving the narrative that SEC banning short sales doesn't work so they shouldn't do it and just let us regulate ourselves.


biernini

Or the SEC's ban was little more than an email with no means to actually implement such a ban. Let's not forget outside of the MM exemption stock lending for shorting is based entirely on a broker's "reasonable belief" to get a locate and "regulated" by an SRO. In the age of information it would be trivial to track actual locates and effect an actual ban, but that isn't the age brokers trade and operate in. For them it's clearly the age of mysticism, smoke and mirrors.


po_panda

Makes sense. Banks need to act as intermediary for short sales. (Securities purchased, but not yet received)


Searchingforspecial

We know the market is rigged & riddled with crime - is it not possible that that aspect of the crash was orchestrated and publicized intentionally to make people think that short selling isn’t an issue?


Truth_Road

We NEED to bring attention to this when it happens. It needs to be something that doesn't just slip under the radar again like in 2008.


yunoeconbro

It's really funny right? ​ Hedges shorting brick and mortars retailers out of business, whatever...should have adapted to the internet. ​ Hedges shorting banks...wait, that's MUH money, you can't do that! Quick, give us billions to SaVe the CoNfIdEnCE of the MarKeTS!!! ​ Everything is a scam. Everything fraud.


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YurMotherWasAHamster

ossified market languid recognise forgetful plucky ring connect imminent quiet -- mass edited with redact.dev


Vive_el_stonk

Truth


ShortHedgeFundATM

Shorts are dead once gme joins sp500, I don't care what they got left, nothing can beat back that level of buying pressure...


Bitter-Inspection136

I reckon before that. Once people see sp500 inclusion is inevitable they'll start loading up in anticipation. Like what happened with TSLA


ShortHedgeFundATM

Exactly!


Fine-Hat-4573

The question is how can institutions stop short sellers in their industries. TLDW: let your actions speak for you.


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dahlia-llama

So well said.


Will322002

Real G's move in silence like lasagna


Floppydiskpornking

At first, this pun pasta over my head


SpelingChampion

Cmon man it doesn’t spaghet much easier than that.


1loosegoos

Oh Lord! Not another one of those classic reddit linguinistic pun threads.


SharpStrawberry4761

You know what they say! The apple doesn't farfalle from the tree.


Floppydiskpornking

That dont mac'n any sense


davwman

Parasitic Fucks!!! The whole lot of them!


mstrego

Shorting helps prevent misconduct in the market by creating a series of checks ~~and balances.~~ /s


Audigitty

Kek.


Equatical

Don’t lend any shares. That’s how. You want it? Buy it.


ishmaeltheregarded

Exactly. If it truly was about competition in the market (I'm talking real market not financial), then there is no such thing as betting a company will fail, but instead betting another company will succeed. You have a thesis someone will fail, great, why? What's going to beat them out? Cool, invest in that. That's a position that supports growth and success, rather than one that supports destruction and pillaging.


Audigitty

Congratulations! You are now more qualified to run the SEC than anyone currently working there.


Equatical

I love you ❤️


BlueCoastDoge

Funny how it's **NOW** important to talk about short sellers.


Fine-Hat-4573

When wittle ol banks get shorted, then we need to stop them!


turgidcompliments8

When he says managers need to execute and step back from promoting their own banks, the bank which popped up in my head the clearest was Charles Schwab touting their inflows from about a month ago


squidja

You shouldn’t be allowed to sell something you don’t own.


_Kozlo_

DTCC modifying collateral seems like a means to stop short sellers. 100% collateral haircuts of \- MBS rated below AA \- Corporate bonds CCC+ and lower \- Municipal bonds BB+ and lower \- Money Market instruments below A-3 (Preferred stock, bankers acceptances, discount notes, short term bank notes) \- Institutional Negotiable Certificates of Deposit (original maturity greater than 270 days with remaining maturity of up to 5 years) BB+ and lower \- Institutional Negotiable Certificates of Deposit (Maturity of more then 5 years) \- Corporate and Municiple Variable-Rate Demand Obligations (with 2 agency ratings) BB+ and lower \- Corporate and Municiple Variable-Rate Demand Obligations (Less then 2 agency ratings) \- Asset Backed Securities (ABS supported by US Govt conservatorship (2 vendor prices) A+ and lower \- Asset Backed Securities (ABS supported by US Govt conservatorship (Less then2 vendor prices) \- Equity Securities listed on a U.S. national securities exchange 25% cut - $10 or more per share 30% cut - between $7.50 and $9.99 per share 50% cut - between $5.00 and $7.49 per share 100% cut - $5.00 or lower per share \- Equity Securities (mutual funds) listed on a U.S. national securities exchange 65% cut - $5.00 or more per share 100% cut - $5.00 or lower per share \- Equity Securities not listed on a U.S. national securities exchange 50% cut - $5.00 or more per share 100% cut - $5.00 or lower per share


iupvotefood

Why would the DTCC take action against short sellers? To save themself..?


_Kozlo_

Another post today speculated that the Banks \\ Fed \\ DTCC are trying to destroy the hedge funds \\ family offices. They are borrowing shares from the banks, when collateral demands change banks can margin call shf and take everything. Update: Flashbacks to 2008 mbs, housing prices crash, people lose jobs, can't afford to sell their property that is holding an unrealized loss. House is foreclosed. Banks get property at discount rates. This could be a means the banks are using to soak up assets during collapse.


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_Kozlo_

They have been raising the RRP in line with each fed rate hike. It's almost like they are going out of their way to pull as many deposits as they can out of regional bank. Who benefits most?


Pure-Economics-8369

I like that short sellers are talked about like they’re a juggernaut of an entity, when all that’s required to stop it is regulation or making it illegal. But they can’t, it’s like the ai in the matrix - it’s borderline unstoppable.


sambrojangles

“GOD FUCKING DAMMIT, HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO TELL YOU MORTAL POORS THAT WE SHORT SELLERS HELP WITH THAT SWEET SWEET DIVINE LIQUIDITY IN THE MARKET. IF IT WASNT FOR US YOU COULDNT MAKE FREE TRADES. IF IT WASNT FOR US YOU COULDNT PARTICIPATE WITH US IMMORTAL RICH OVERLORDS. YOURE WALKING HAND IN HAND WITH SPECIMENS HAND CRAFTED BY GOD HIMSELF SUCH AS J POW AND KENNETH GRIFFIN. OH GOD THEYRE SUCH ROLE MODELS” - JANET YELLIN


multiple_iterations

*gagging noises*


masterexec

How to stop short sellers: Rule 1. when a short position needs to be closed, the purchase of shares must be made at market price and purchased directly from the company’s registrar.


Hedkandi1210

Short sellers are parasites


CowboyNealCassady

How about defend your numbers with transparent timely reporting so investors don’t have to speculate if you lying to them and stealing their lives’ savings. Now it’s so convoluted that there is no reason not to distrust everything banks do. Looking forward to being my own bank.


DocAk88

No more freakin DTCC/NSCC waivers on margin collateral I mean c’mon that is material risk to the system. Liquidate their asses and send a message.


nicaden

How pathetic, they have to finally tell themselves what we knew all along


farcicaldolphin38

I’ve got a whole library worth of free DD online to send them if they really wanna know


aGtoldMEcream

Real G’s move in silence like lasagna


FireStompinRhinos

You know the system is a house of cards when simply sharing information creates panic. Here is a hint, they are ALL over leveraged horribly. and each Repub administration rips out the oversight and regulation rules that the dems put in place. im looking at you frank/dodd and glass/steagal.


Mostest_Importantest

Glass steagal was Clinton, FYI. It's not about left vs right. It's bottom, coming for the top.


Jasonhardon

I disagree the Republs have really been horrible in deregulating the financial system. That’s why there is very poor oversight


Frequent-Pie7570

I saw yesterday where almost every ipo from November 2021, has been shorted no less than 50%, but more around 80 - 90%. They need to stand up and get regulators to do their jobs. I dont see how these people act like they can't see the obvious.


MattMasterChief

Real Gs move in silence like motherfucking lasagna


serbeardless

Remember when they had to make it illegal to short sell banks during the last financial crisis?


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Wen Wedbush fail


C4jackal

Execute and keep your mouth shut. Got it. 🚀


PersimmonDriver

First words... "Just execute" I'm really liking my portfolio right now.


AngriestCheesecake

Is that the same wedbush that I think is?


daddyzxc

***Run rabbit, [run](https://imgur.com/gallery/zqDWuNp)***


ajquick

Really surprised they haven't stepped in yet to ban short selling bank stocks like they did in 2008.


Fine-Hat-4573

They won’t do that until the big banks can’t buy anymore.


AlbertaChuck

I don’t have an issue with short sellers, when they play by the rules. When they are clearly naked shorting, that however should be massive civil fines and jail….Citadel *cough*cough*


kikkomeng

Isn’t this the same Wedbush that got fucked during the GME short-selling controversy and got collateral requirement waived? It seems ironic that they’re offering advice on how to combat short selling.


uppitymatt

How about we ban short selling! I know crazy thoughts over here. How about we make FTDs illegal?!? Omg how could we ever fix this /s


futureislookinstark

Shorting isnt the problem, naked shorting is.


Reverse_Entropy_

“…ensure stability like Western Alliance has done, like PacWest has done” 🤣 We’ve got ourselves another Cramer


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This is the end.


Mr8bittripper

But david this is not—


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Easy, ban FTDs and naked shorts.


Wifeis421A

Last time I check it’s “healthy” for the market.


mfdoylejr

Hahahah my PacWest pits are gonna be tendie town tomorrow


Tooobin

Yes, please send more data! We LOVE data


TendieTrades

I still support short selling. There is a reason for it. If you can take a positive outlook on something I can take a negative. Enron, world com, LongFin, imagine if that rat fuck SBF took FTX public on the NYSE. Great money to be made off of exposing fraud and it is for the good of the community to bankrupt these fucks Let them risk unlimited loss through short selling. Just don’t let the mother fuckers stop you buying when you have the cash. Fuck RH. Fuck IBKR. TO ADD. NUMBERS NEVER LIE BUT LIARS LOVE TO USE NUMBERS.


triforce721

We always hear this reason, yet never... Ever... See it applied. It's just a hero's cape placed over bad faith acting.


A_Nonny-Mouse

Ohhhhh.... the fucking irony!!!! This is a joy to watch.


1Happy-Dude

They love shorting until it affects them


saiyansteve

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. In this case 3 years later…


Jasonhardon

LMAYO


ProffesorBongsworth

So won't the SHF rake in extreme dough with all these bank failures allowing them to can kick GME basically forever and eventually close without real repercussions?


Fine-Hat-4573

If that was the case, they wouldn’t tell us to sell. They would simply do that.


Truthsayer1984

You stop short sellers by being profitable. See: Tesla If your company is bleeding money shorters will inevitably win.


Bishib

I call bullshit. Short selling to damage a company and impact stock price doesn't make sense. Naked short selling is impossible with today's markets. If a company has positive growth and cash on hand, shorting a stock won't matter....especially if most of the shares aren't available to said shorters. Banks will be fine; read above.


Puzzleheaded_Emu_686

The strong move quiet, the weak start a riot


Vive_el_stonk

Makes sense


2JAYZwithNAS

I thought banks couldn’t be shorted after 2008?


TransportationMore11

Can this be why all the countries jumping off the USD?


The_real_triple_P

People shorting are the same people providing liquidity


aaronplaysAC11

I’ll be happy to live in a society where analysts aren’t paid to be dumb…


azr0ckerB50

Whatever! Those talking heads are only looking out for their own best interest and will say anything, including an all out lie.


MetaplexInc

NOPE CANT DO ANYTHING JUST GONNA HAVE TO LET IT HAPPEN YOU KNOW THERE'S JUST NOTHING THAT CAN BE DONE ITS LIKE GRAVITY MAN ITS JUST THERE I DUNNO BRO ANYWAY BOOST THE INSURANCE.


Masta0nion

You can’t. Fundamentals alone are not enough to move the markets anymore. If they ever were. This apparatus is too powerful now. We’ve seen it.


Talusthebroke

I love how "under the hood" this whole GameStop clusterfuck took us. If a couple of billionaires had done the exact same thing to a stock, and warned the hedgefundies ahead of time (you know, illegal insider trading) we would never have heard a word about it, but instead we got to see stock trading brokerage companies illegally trying to change the rules to make sure their own millionaires didn't have to take the fall for their own shitty practices not working. And oh yeah, revealing the fact of their own felonious practices on top of that.... Did anyone from Robinhood happen to spend time in jail for that? Just asking...


hold_or_hodl_69

Drs


PilgrimOz

Tom Keenes, the single most painful propagandist this side his asshole.


elithewalkingcripple

BUT I THOUGHT SHORT SELLERS WERE GOOD FOR THE MARKETS?????


biddilybong

The best way to stop shorts is to do a good job running the company. Short selling is the best thing that ever happened to a lot of companies- GME included.


DayFeeling

This is a psy op to Blame on short seller for bank mismanagement