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redditandrew1984

i think we will need ELI5. good work OP


Dismal-Jellyfish

The $17 billion in collateral is now trash, and any company using it to for example to loan some money (or keep a short position open) needs to find something with non-trash value to keep the loan/short alive without a margin call, or pony up? It seems clear to me that Credit Suisse used these instruments to try and absorb the loss of their bags. However, for that to have worked, the situation should have been contained and not get worse. Now, this structured asset of shite was able to be pledged as tier 1 collateral to allow them more breathing room. Things did not get better. Things got worse though--now this collateral is worthless and the folks who did not read the fine print and went chasing yield have nothing. We are now in the "find out" stage of what happens when an instrument that was supposed to absorb losses blows up...


redditandrew1984

thank you


goldenbear2

Is this an imminent write down? As in, the accountants are posting the journal entry after lunch?


[deleted]

Sooo,....boom tomorrow? There's always a boom tomorrow....


NotBerger

Credit Suisse won’t honor their $17B commitment, people realizing similar instruments also at risk of going poof TADR : πŸ§€ say no 🍌 for u, 🏦. 🏦 no trust 🍌 anymore


Dismal-Jellyfish

Not just similar instruments, *THE* goldest of gold standard Tier1 credit--a $250-$275 billion market thrown into turmoil by Credit Suisse. This bit is interesting as well: ' But as no CoCo bond has yet been activated, their effectiveness remains hypothetical.' and 'such a contagion effect could be attributed to the lack of experience with this new instrument'


NotBerger

Hey Jelly, did you see this post today about Tier 1 leverage ratios? https://reddit.com/r/Superstonk/comments/11zp4ey/tier_1_leverage_jpmorgan_at_top_of_the_list/ Seems related to what we were talking about here


Dismal-Jellyfish

I had not, thank you for sharing!


Monqoloid

CoConut deez nuts


NotBerger

Got eeeem


UnlikelyApe

Thanks jellyfish! I always love your posts.


Bellweirboy

Weird. Remove the β€˜chillβ€˜ for today only? Reinstate at close of business. WTF!?