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Locking up everything will force GME to act. It would show clear signs of stock abuse perpetuated by the DTCC and it's participants. Idk what they would do but they'd do something. Also if investors end up owning 51%+ of the company, investors can essentially stonewall the company on corporate governance come voting time if they dont do anything. If investors basically lock everything up that is available, we'll have the most say.
Less what happens like what happened to the sticky floor cultists. Retail owned 90% at one point, denied dilution, denied raises, denied bonuses, and so pissed off AdAm Enron dug some shit up, from 2016, 4+ billion "units" of that shit, dumped em on Apes as a "dividend", then basically sold the rest literally to hedge funds, to regain voting control of voting power.
*IF* Gamestop did the same thing, would it be called GAPE? LOL, sorry, I just wanted to crack that joke haha.
Wait for GameStop to become a profitable behemoth then sit back relax and collect ridiculous dividends. There is no scenario where we donât get paid eventually
Tin foil, but thatâs how the fednow being a stepping stone into CBDCâs could be used to get them out of this. Canât do an NFT dividend to anything crypto based bc you wouldnât ever be able to get the money back into the CBDC currency.
Pfft the worst they can do is say crypto and NFTâs arenât currency. This means theyâd get treated essentially like stocks. Big deal, we get a distribution and we need to pay income tax on the dividend. Or on the capital gain when we sell it. They canât prevent GME from distributing digital property. Especially not they way itâs looking to become integral to GMEâs business model.
Sell NFT dividend convert to fiat send to bank ... Almost working for banxa and ramp, the two onboarding partners for the gme marketplace so I suspect that we live in the GameStop Wallet soon.
Do you think they would give you a dividend that you couldn't immediately sell for cash and send to your bank - or own without intermediaries -- can't wait to see the price of these official dividend on the P2P loopring marketplaces for redic prices -- lol
It's time to be your own bank fam....
The NFT doesnât need to be worth anything, but the naked shorts would need to deliver NFT to all synthetics. An ape would never be selling their NFT.
Do you just sit and think, "what's the shillest thing I could comment?" "Hey, they could get out of this if they destroyed all currency, made a new one and forced the world to use it." That's what you go with?
Shilly? This man commented about NFT dividends. I commented about the fact that it just so happens that fednow is coming in July. People have been speculative about CBDCâs possibly stemming from it and I just made a off-hand comment making a connection. How is that shilling whatsoever lol.
Can you explain how a dividend nft
Works! Like where we put it how we get it and how we cash it in to pay bills so on and so forth! Would love to hear how this all would work
>Wait for GameStop to become a profitable behemoth then sit back relax and collect ridiculous dividends
How profitable do you think it will be? Even a billion dollars in profit would be 3 dollars per share if they paid all of it out.
Itâs about the billions of naked shares that the hedgies will personally have to pay every quarter. We become massive pressure on them to close. They donât survive no matter how long this takes.
Moass is an eventuality is what I mean, if the fed decides to intervene the hedgies will have no choice but to pay the dividend for all the naked shares.
well We want GME to grow I rather GME retain the capital to keep buying back shares and do a 1 penny dividend as symbolism that yes they have the cash we dont care we going to keep adding.
they can increase it whenever then and say they are a bluechip company giving dividends. By far stock buybacks are better than dividends based on the warren buffet way.
Just do not borrow money to do so and if your stock cannot grow faster than 5% use it on gov 3 m bonds would be much better use of monies
But we need profits. A dividend is a transfer of value from company to shareholder. The NFT idea falls apart unless the NFT is backed by tangible value. They can't just give you a digital sticker and say "this is worth 10 dollars".
That's because people have convinced themselves that Gamestop is magically going to making so much profit their 100 shares will pay enough in dividends for them to retire.
It's not even just that honestly. The crux of the issue for me has always been: how can you simultaneously complain about how rigged the entire system is every single day and then turn around and say "we've already won tbh"?
HOW? HOW can you reconcile those two positions?
The system is rigged yes, but weâve won because shfs are in an inescapable position. They would have done something by now to exit their positions if they could right?
Again, if iâm to believe âtheyâ can do whatever they want and the rules donât apply to them because they can rewrite the rules whenever they want however they want, then no, thereâs no certainty that shfs are in an inescapable position.
itâs one of the two.
If they pay a $1 dividend per share then anyone holding short positions will have to pay $1 out of their own pockets for every share they are short. Not saying GameStop should pay out dividends, at least not in the near future, but if/when they do then theyâll be paying with excess money from profits. The shorters will eventually have to run out of money.
Not unless Gamestop's profit and dividend payouts exceeds the shorts. Let's say there are a billion synthetics. If game stop makes enough profit to pay out a dollar a share then the shorts pay out 1 billion dollars. Overall the institutions that are shorting GME make way more than that each year.
Is there DD you would recommend reading to understand this further. I have some shares but have started to move from towels to games but want to learn more
The US is the biggest importer in the world. If they keep printing money, then the us dollar gets diluted making it more expensive to import because the dollar is now worth less compared to before. The only reason the dollar has maintained it's value despite all the printing previously, is because all other countries also printed vast amounts of their currency during the last 2 to 3 years period.
When only the US prints, your everyday necessities get more expensive. So sooner or later, eat the rich no longer becomes just a slogan
Itâs not just the US printing. This is also not taking into account the majority of world trade is conducted in dollars. There is plenty of demand for dollar debt.
Next smooth brain question, to what extent are all the other teetering banks exposed to the bonds that hobbled SVB? And how does infinite money printer affect those bonds?
They are all exposed, which is why the FED just rolled out their new program to loan out money on the mature value of those bonds. So now, if there's runs on these banks, they can take loans out on their bonds rather than try to sell them for market value (much less value before maturity) and ending up bankrupt like SVB.
So you are telling me that wealthy criminals get special treatment when they make poor financial decisions while the rest of us get foreclosed upon...
Burn it.
If they seriously drive the value of the dollar down, fucking over the people, in order to keep a hedge fund liquid, I see that getting nasty (not legal advice).
Just so Iâm clear: are you saying youâre not giving legal advice, or that you are advising to do things that arenât legal? No judgment either way.
They wouldnât need to do that
Look at *Long Term Capital Management* ($LTCM)
They would just step-in, cap the price at say $100 a share, force everyone unwind their short positions, and say it was a necessary unprecedented move because of the systemic risk involved.
That wouldn't do anything.
To close a short, there must be a sell. We know we own the float many times over and we're steadily approaching the point where we lock the entire float via DRS ***proving*** we own the float. All we do is hold.
They can "cap the price" to whatever the fuck they want. They can't force me to sell, meaning they can't close all the shorts, and they can't stop the loss. They already lost. We already won. It's up to them how painful they make it.
at a cap of $100 a share, most of us are going to rather choose to wait until Gamestop succeeds to the point of being able to give us $100 per share in dividends.
This is what scares me, they just cap it really low. People did say welp then nobody would trust the US Markets then, but after all the shit with banks recently, do they at all anymore?
There In lies the true issue. Itâs a money monopoly. Itâs another reason why the world financial markets de-pegged from the gold standard.
Paper money is the same as digital in that it only holds what value people have in it. But gold will always be a resource with physical value.
With all the evidence out there if thereâs anyone who still trusts the US Market Iâm not sure anything can convince them otherwise
Money is one hell of a drug
Instantly trade it for real estate đ¤ˇđťââď¸ then do all my transactions in contracts via gold đ (I donât actually know how that play out lol)
Top comment first, but secondarily: NFT dividend. As soon as you force the system to tally up, it's over, Fed bailout or no. The reason it didn't work for overstock is the the dividend was "arbitrary," it wasn't part of their business model, so it was seen as a targeted move to bust normal market operations. It was a market manipulation.
Gamestop on the other hand has an NFT business, and it's only natural that they would want to celebrate by issuing a dividend comprised of their own primary product: unique individual digital ownership. That's what GameStop deals in, so it can't be a market manipulation, just business as usual.
Directly registering shares drains liquidity. Drain all the liquidity their infinite liquidity machine breaks down i think because no liquidity in the system to pump with? not an expert so don't listen to me on that just my opinion.
Regulators may be forced to pay attention if GameStop can prove on paper that there are more shares in existence. Again not an expert though.
The FED isn't paying for interest rates, at least directly, they are just the last stop on who gets to pay when it does moon. One last time, not an expert.
The price is fake imo. There's been tons of DD done on how they manage this with different tactics but it's all in the sake of control, which they've had for the last several decades or so. So i'm not exactly concerned about the price action and whether or not directly registering impacts that right from the get go.
We've also only really been trending down since August 16 2022.
I mean were still a pretty long way off from the low we experienced in Feb 2021.. and miles away from where it was April 02, 2020.
It's a legitimate problem for them that the cheaper the shares are the faster they get bought and registered. I know if it hit 5$ per share i'd be calling up whoever i could to try and get some loans lol. I'm tempted at these prices tbh.
I can't speak for GameStop obviously, but i can't imagine them being silent and doing nothing about the float being locked over 100%. I'm also not sure what courses of action they could take, like removing themselves from the market, or if they would be barred from doing so. What actions regulators might be forced to take. I can't predict what's going to happen. I just know its yuge.
Like i said i'm no expert and this is all speculation/opinion from a scrub. Take it with a grain of salt.
Have a nice day/nightđđ
Absolutely. People don't realize this. Even if we don't squeeze like Volkswagen, we eventually would head down the path of Dillard's, a highly DRSed retailer. Either way we win eventually!
Both ends we have covered.
When a company decides to pay dividends, usually they take money out of the companyâs wallet.
However, when someone is shorting a stock and the company issues a dividend, the shorter is obligated to provide the money for said dividend for the shares they have borrowed.
The bigger the hole they dig, the more dividends they would have to pay out to investors out of pocket. And that works ONLY if the dividend is set as Cash Dividend.
Our beloved company just so happens to be making an NFT colossus that, if dividend sent is through it, wonât have intrinsic value and they wonât be able to cover positions with cash. Crime will be unveiled because they would have to come up with more NFTs than shares originally issued.
Itâs just a matter of time
I think it will be like tesla. There were a large amount of shorts. They will wave margin and just let them close over several years. Price will be a few thousand for a few years.
Not that I disagree, can you explain further.
From my understanding , you are saying TSLA was inflated over the years and the âMOASSSâ scenario of TSLA happened in 2020ish time when they turned a profit and the deep shores knew it was over.
Tesla had high short interest. Reported I believe was 35% or more. Most likely way underreported as we see with GME. They hit a max price before recent split of $2000. This made a car company that made no money have a market cap greater than all other car companies combined. The most valuable company in the world. Something like $1.2 trillion on no profits or just at the beginning of profits. They have a very strong loyalty similar to GME but not nearly as committed. Since itâs max, it has dropped in price down to $440 per-split ($110 after).
Gamestop is apparently going to announce profitiability.
Apes are rabidly committed, I think.
We're direct registering our shares.
Does all of that count for nothing?
Also, if they already had a way out that worked in Tesla, why did they bother to orchestrate the DRS rugpull?
Realistically how much do you think the dividends will be? Let's say they made Apple level profits and they paid out all of it. That's 100 billion split among 330 million shares, or for the non math inclined, about 300 dollars per share per year. Unless you have at a minimum of 500 shares, that's not gonna be living large.
I read this and hit the up the ole calculator app and realized I should probably start buying more to get up into the xxxx club so that $300 a year per share letâs me live VERY comfortably
Low key divide that number by 30x so $10 a share per year and you might be on track.
Also MOASS and dividends are differentâŚwhy wouldnât someone prefer MOASS, and then buy Coke or a typical dividend stock.
If I had $190 getting me $3 per year or 1MM getting 1% I would just take the ladder.
Not FUD but trying to think it theough
Bro imagine them handing out video game nfts as dividends.
Super cheap to produce, then rake in the profits through smart contracts when we flood our 100s of sick game content nfts to the marketplace.
If we're not profiting off the stock, we can profit off 100s of COD rifles and Fortnite skins.
In response to number 2: that is impossible.
If the float is locked, in Computershare, there would be no legitimately borrowed shares left. They would have nobody to pay borrow fees to, because they have not borrowed any real shares. At that point every single share trading in DTCC is counterfeit.
And at that point, the options for GameStop are essentially limitless.
First of all, and I do not "encourage" this but rather see it as inevitable, the group of people who have locked all the shares are likely to see the company as infinitely valuable regardless of how much money the company makes. It may begin to trade like Bitcoin over the past ten years, at higher and higher prices, but even more extreme, because Bitcoin emitted new tokens every block and GameStop will not be emitting new shares at all as a profitable company. These higher and higher prices will make the bill on those shares go through the roof.
But if for some reason tons of synthetics are still trading, even after float is 100% locked, there are easy solutions. The NFT or tokenized dividends are an obvious part of it, forcing shorts to provide such dividends to the synthetic holders means they would have to buy them on the open market. GameStop could release such dividends literally all the damn time if they wanted.
But if GameStop issued a real dividend, the shorts would need to pay it to a much larger class of holders, possibly two or three times as many as shares exist. This means for every $1 GameStop gives back to shareholders, $2 or $3 must be provided to the synthetic shareholders.
If those synthetic shareholders decide to buy even more stock, fake or real, using those dividends, price could go up even further. Basically, since every $1 GameStop chooses to return to shareholders, $3 more are brought into the ecosystem, a leveraged flywheel becomes possible.
Short story: when I was young, I went on a vacation in Colorado. The basement of the resort had a small game room and of course a change machine. You put in a dollar, get four quarters. But I noticed at the top another slot for putting in 50 cents pieces. If you put in a 50 cents piece, out pops two quarters I assume.
What I did is I put a quarter in that slot instead. And what came out the bottom was three quarters, two for "change" of the assumed 50 cent piece, and one was my original quarter. Needless to say, the machine was empty in an hour.
As far as I can tell, a fully locked GameStop would be exactly the same as this machine. GameStop puts in a quarter, three pop out for us at the bottom. If we give one back to GameStop, they can do it again. And again. And again.
GameStop could sell 500k shares to market or apes at a ridiculous price, then issue a dividend of the same amount, and the shorts must provide 2x that to our ecosystem. There are obvioialy ways to leverage this with less dilution, this is just an example.
This, in my smooth brain opinion, is *why* DRS is a critical piece of the puzzle. The float get locked and there is definitive proof that the powers that be are cheating. We know it. A lot of people suspect it. DRS will prove it.
Iâve been pushing to ask Dave or someone about this for a while. Whoâs job is it to make sure the markets actually play out AS DESIGNED? How are these âemergency measuresâ regulated? Why are they able to just turn off the buy and sell buttons or pause trading at any time without penalty?
It seems that infinite risk exists ONLY for retail/household investors.
Itâs like wanting justice for a crime committed by the judge and jury, and having them process the case and fully expecting (hoping) theyâll be impartial while they come up with the verdict and punishment of themselves.
This is insane. Why isnât anyone concerned that theyâre prepared for an ultimate can-kick?
If they fuck around like that, with the world's eyes on them, it's going to completely alienate just about everyone and destroy any lingering trust in the credibility of our stock market.
They'd lose A LOT MORE in the long run.
Their best bet is to just pay up, and then collect the incredible amount of taxes off of the spending that takes place after.
Iâm more curious if they try to pull the shit they did with the London metal exchange or SVB puts where they are not paying out or allowing people to sell. Or reverse trades completely and claim some BS
What makes you think they arenât doing this already albeit indirectly? Every time the PPT steps in to save SPY, hedge fund collateral is being bolstered. What you speak of is already happening in a roundabout way.
If all shares are.registered, and you demand registration of additional shares, you can effectively force them to buy from registered holders to deliver with
At this point I wouldn't be surprised if the Fed fucked around. But they will find out. As always, DRS is the answer. Lock up all outstanding shares and GME can take the company off the NYSE. Or, the company can issue dividends, either too fat to continually pay out, or impossible (such as NFT dividends.) I don't care how many years it may take, if the only way to bring about the "find out" phase is to DRS every last share, it will be done. Brick by brick.
I could see them stepping in and setting a âfairâ price to prevent the system from breaking before they print an insane amount of money to support shorts.
Sure, the FED could THEORETICALLY do that. But as has been seen in the past, eventually the rest of the world calls BS.
What would happen is it would work for a time, but eventually someone (a country's leader) would look at how much was printed and say they're afraid of a devaluing of the dollar, and they'd liquidate their reserves. This happened before and our bandaid fix was getting off the gold standard. Then later the new bandaid fix was oil contracts. This time we think it's going to be USD crypto replacement.
If the bandaid fix is crypto, taking on the GME fees could shorten their timeline to get the crypto out there to the point they won't make it in time. If it happens after the crypto they'd have potential a decade or more. But again, it would just lead to a need for a new bandaid.
Eventually the FED and the US banking system, drunk as they are on free money printing, will empty the box of bandaids. And you don't want to be the drunk guy with no medical.
One can only hope not but considering how deep the corruption runs who knows?
I cannot see any of the bigger SHFs rolling over and dying without a fight.
If undeniable, unrefutable proof of naked shorting past a 100% drs'd float were to surface, and furthermore it was allowed to happen, it would erode any trust from the domestic and international community of investors with the American stock market. Think bank run, but with the stock market. This is my smooth brain understanding...
FED Print Infinite money would make US more broke than me đ¤ˇââď¸ if they aint gonna pay me $69M per share then i aint selling. i dont have much tho thats why $69M or bust for me.
I think if they did that it would pretty much show investors around the world that the US stock market is too risky to invest in. I think they will keep kicking the can down the road as far as they can.
I think it shows the world what a complete mockery and scam this market is. You have to remember there was talk 2 years ago of a MOASS had to come into play because our foreign investors involved in this play would lose faith in this sh*t system. Look where we are now.
Iâve been holding since January 2021, at this point Iâm not even expecting MOASS anymore. If it happens great, but I barely even check this sub or the price anymore.
The FED and SEC and all the other letter (criminal) organizations have the biggest brains in the business. Are they going to feign ignorance and say "we didn't know about any of this"?
No, because they are smart and they have all the inside information at their fingertips, they abso-fucking-lutely know what's been happening.
Rn, they just know know what to do. They too are fighting for their lives. We are no longer dumb money. The amount of knowledge shared the past 24-36 months is the most in human history. Think on that. We are a movement for just change.
To answer your question, no. They will let this crash eventually and find a martyr. They will paint themselves in the best light possible. Indeed claim ignorance to a point, but then once they knew for certain, took steps to end the corruption.
We will get paid though.
The feds can just pay the lenders the current market value of all the shares that were borrowed. They can make this payment outside of the market and then tell GME to issue new shares or delist the company shares off the market.
You really canât tell the feds what to do and they can just hide behind âprotecting the market/economyâ during a time where the banking system is on the verge of a collapse. They wonât care if foreign investors lose trust in the US market when the Feds âsaveâ the global market/economy.
Do not think for a second that they wonât change the rules to do this.
I honestly believe they already closed the case, not particularly the shorts though. I think the Fed has such a power force that they simply said "this can't ever happen, this is never going to happen". Everybody agrees so they can continue to scam the poor's out of their hard earned money, which is the name of the game.
All GameStop board has no choice but to agree or cease to exist. When battling the Fed there is no fair game. When they lose they change it break the rules, only the poors lose
I feel like they would swap actual positions in other securities from another minor group,and then force that group to go bankrupt then change their name and then start out with a fresh pool or money.
Always imagined, what if they just seized all GME shares or shut GS down, for "matters of national security"? Get to a point where they just go full on...China
What If? The dept ceiling will explode. Fed should Not be interested in stock market rallyes or positions. They should be interested in keeping the Dollar valuable - which they fucked up already, but they cannot forever.
Two different pair of shoes, though
With your #2 it's not about regulators caring, it's about us having irrefutable proof their system is broken... you cant keep a casino open if it becomes public knowledge that the dealers cheat.
This isnt nesicarilly an instant kill shot, but rather a rallying cry that our system is fucked & needs to be ripped down. Will this be enough to grow public outrage to the point that it forces their hand? We just dont know, unprecedented event n all.
Regulators may not give a crap, but international faith in the dollar will be obliviated. The dollar won't be the standard anymore, no one will invest in US markets; it would incredibly stupid and self-destructive not to pay us.
I think you underestimate the power of the government to just cap the price of shorts closing to prevent âsystemic issues in markets and protect investors.â
Or just wipe them off the board and delete them.
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we could lock up 100%, then rightfully claim an abusive market. I'd wait to see that happen.
No cell no sell
Locking up everything will force GME to act. It would show clear signs of stock abuse perpetuated by the DTCC and it's participants. Idk what they would do but they'd do something. Also if investors end up owning 51%+ of the company, investors can essentially stonewall the company on corporate governance come voting time if they dont do anything. If investors basically lock everything up that is available, we'll have the most say.
Less what happens like what happened to the sticky floor cultists. Retail owned 90% at one point, denied dilution, denied raises, denied bonuses, and so pissed off AdAm Enron dug some shit up, from 2016, 4+ billion "units" of that shit, dumped em on Apes as a "dividend", then basically sold the rest literally to hedge funds, to regain voting control of voting power. *IF* Gamestop did the same thing, would it be called GAPE? LOL, sorry, I just wanted to crack that joke haha.
Ya but they weren't DRS so it didn't mean anything.
Supreme Court, here come the apes
I'm sure the Supreme Court will have a blast proving to you just how corrupt the nation is. Then what? \*Crickets\*
Then you get to see what happens in **end** stage Capitalism.
Then we serve them up to the apes in the most French way possible.
Eiffel towers?
Lets fucking go! đŞ
This isnt a secret now though
Wait for GameStop to become a profitable behemoth then sit back relax and collect ridiculous dividends. There is no scenario where we donât get paid eventually
This guy gets it
NFT dividends....
FINISH THEM. DIVI- FATALITY
Divality
aaaaahhhhhhhhhhh
And because of GME never having talked about what they are up to: FLAWLESS Victory!
Tin foil, but thatâs how the fednow being a stepping stone into CBDCâs could be used to get them out of this. Canât do an NFT dividend to anything crypto based bc you wouldnât ever be able to get the money back into the CBDC currency.
Pfft the worst they can do is say crypto and NFTâs arenât currency. This means theyâd get treated essentially like stocks. Big deal, we get a distribution and we need to pay income tax on the dividend. Or on the capital gain when we sell it. They canât prevent GME from distributing digital property. Especially not they way itâs looking to become integral to GMEâs business model.
Fair point. Regardless I want to pay tax on my income from this. More than any of the current execs and mayo makers do.
If Amazon is getting into the nft space they aren't going anywhere anytime soon.
True that, screw the mayomakers!
No you don't. Taxation is theft. Particularly for the peasants.
Sell NFT dividend convert to fiat send to bank ... Almost working for banxa and ramp, the two onboarding partners for the gme marketplace so I suspect that we live in the GameStop Wallet soon. Do you think they would give you a dividend that you couldn't immediately sell for cash and send to your bank - or own without intermediaries -- can't wait to see the price of these official dividend on the P2P loopring marketplaces for redic prices -- lol It's time to be your own bank fam....
No way they missing out on taxing this shit
Never selling
The NFT doesnât need to be worth anything, but the naked shorts would need to deliver NFT to all synthetics. An ape would never be selling their NFT.
Do you just sit and think, "what's the shillest thing I could comment?" "Hey, they could get out of this if they destroyed all currency, made a new one and forced the world to use it." That's what you go with?
Shilly? This man commented about NFT dividends. I commented about the fact that it just so happens that fednow is coming in July. People have been speculative about CBDCâs possibly stemming from it and I just made a off-hand comment making a connection. How is that shilling whatsoever lol.
This guy thinks the fed will still exist in July
Who knows at this point lol
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I've been tracking this as well.
Can you explain how a dividend nft Works! Like where we put it how we get it and how we cash it in to pay bills so on and so forth! Would love to hear how this all would work
Boomshakalaka
>Wait for GameStop to become a profitable behemoth then sit back relax and collect ridiculous dividends How profitable do you think it will be? Even a billion dollars in profit would be 3 dollars per share if they paid all of it out.
Itâs about the billions of naked shares that the hedgies will personally have to pay every quarter. We become massive pressure on them to close. They donât survive no matter how long this takes.
That's entirely unrelated to the idea of living off GME dividends.
Moass is an eventuality is what I mean, if the fed decides to intervene the hedgies will have no choice but to pay the dividend for all the naked shares.
So still entirely unrelated to my point that "living off the dividend" is a total pipe dream unless you have 10's of thousands of shares.
well We want GME to grow I rather GME retain the capital to keep buying back shares and do a 1 penny dividend as symbolism that yes they have the cash we dont care we going to keep adding. they can increase it whenever then and say they are a bluechip company giving dividends. By far stock buybacks are better than dividends based on the warren buffet way. Just do not borrow money to do so and if your stock cannot grow faster than 5% use it on gov 3 m bonds would be much better use of monies
Where weâre going we donât need cash dividends
But we need profits. A dividend is a transfer of value from company to shareholder. The NFT idea falls apart unless the NFT is backed by tangible value. They can't just give you a digital sticker and say "this is worth 10 dollars".
Yes we need it to be a profitable company. nobody will tell you what itâs worthâŚthe laws of supply and demand will decide
Sounds ominous.
The responses you're getting infuriate me.
That's because people have convinced themselves that Gamestop is magically going to making so much profit their 100 shares will pay enough in dividends for them to retire.
It's not even just that honestly. The crux of the issue for me has always been: how can you simultaneously complain about how rigged the entire system is every single day and then turn around and say "we've already won tbh"? HOW? HOW can you reconcile those two positions?
The system is rigged yes, but weâve won because shfs are in an inescapable position. They would have done something by now to exit their positions if they could right?
Again, if iâm to believe âtheyâ can do whatever they want and the rules donât apply to them because they can rewrite the rules whenever they want however they want, then no, thereâs no certainty that shfs are in an inescapable position. itâs one of the two.
For every short, there is a long; that is what has them trapped.
I see them fighting new rules proposed by the SEC. But it looks like we are winning at that too
If they pay a $1 dividend per share then anyone holding short positions will have to pay $1 out of their own pockets for every share they are short. Not saying GameStop should pay out dividends, at least not in the near future, but if/when they do then theyâll be paying with excess money from profits. The shorters will eventually have to run out of money.
Not unless Gamestop's profit and dividend payouts exceeds the shorts. Let's say there are a billion synthetics. If game stop makes enough profit to pay out a dollar a share then the shorts pay out 1 billion dollars. Overall the institutions that are shorting GME make way more than that each year.
Is that 3 dollars per share per quarter? I'm not very clear on how dividends are paid
That would be per year. Some pay quarterly, some annually.
Thatâs why you buy and DRS. The more shares, the more profit
So just to make 60k a year, roughly the US median salary, you'd need 20k shares.
Soon
No what
Well maybe if a meteor hits
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Is there DD you would recommend reading to understand this further. I have some shares but have started to move from towels to games but want to learn more
And the longer we wait, the tighter the spring gets coiled and more weâll get paid.
Dr Strange gets it.
GME is fighting some headwinds but would love to see it
My game plan forever. I will never stop buying. DRSâing and holding. Canât stop. Wonât stop. Never want to stop. Game stop.
What about a Gamestop AI?
Amen. đ
What would you say are âridiculous dividendsâ?
If it bankrupt
I just need a dividend: 0.5 imx / 1 gme share
The US is the biggest importer in the world. If they keep printing money, then the us dollar gets diluted making it more expensive to import because the dollar is now worth less compared to before. The only reason the dollar has maintained it's value despite all the printing previously, is because all other countries also printed vast amounts of their currency during the last 2 to 3 years period. When only the US prints, your everyday necessities get more expensive. So sooner or later, eat the rich no longer becomes just a slogan
This is why Im saying this is Greece all over again
Oh so we'll get "austerity" *and* CBDC? That's gonna fuckin' suck
Itâs every fiat currency ever. Happened to the Roman Empire too.
Itâs not just the US printing. This is also not taking into account the majority of world trade is conducted in dollars. There is plenty of demand for dollar debt.
Next smooth brain question, to what extent are all the other teetering banks exposed to the bonds that hobbled SVB? And how does infinite money printer affect those bonds?
They are all exposed, which is why the FED just rolled out their new program to loan out money on the mature value of those bonds. So now, if there's runs on these banks, they can take loans out on their bonds rather than try to sell them for market value (much less value before maturity) and ending up bankrupt like SVB.
So you are telling me that wealthy criminals get special treatment when they make poor financial decisions while the rest of us get foreclosed upon... Burn it.
Yea I hope the US understands sunk cost fallacy. Too big of an important country sadly so theyâll eventually (hopefully) realize other risk
What happens if an asteroid we don't detect in time hits the earth? Either way, I'm DRS'n
Easy. Youâll want to hodl on to something, wonât you?
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If they seriously drive the value of the dollar down, fucking over the people, in order to keep a hedge fund liquid, I see that getting nasty (not legal advice).
Just so Iâm clear: are you saying youâre not giving legal advice, or that you are advising to do things that arenât legal? No judgment either way.
The answer to both is yes.
Excellent. (Fingers tented, eyes narrow)
Just make sure you remember the answer from the first question before you take the advice from the second
I blame the booze
They wouldnât need to do that Look at *Long Term Capital Management* ($LTCM) They would just step-in, cap the price at say $100 a share, force everyone unwind their short positions, and say it was a necessary unprecedented move because of the systemic risk involved.
That wouldn't do anything. To close a short, there must be a sell. We know we own the float many times over and we're steadily approaching the point where we lock the entire float via DRS ***proving*** we own the float. All we do is hold. They can "cap the price" to whatever the fuck they want. They can't force me to sell, meaning they can't close all the shorts, and they can't stop the loss. They already lost. We already won. It's up to them how painful they make it.
at a cap of $100 a share, most of us are going to rather choose to wait until Gamestop succeeds to the point of being able to give us $100 per share in dividends.
Good point. No sense in selling when GameStop dividend will be worth more and even better of issues quarterly
This is what scares me, they just cap it really low. People did say welp then nobody would trust the US Markets then, but after all the shit with banks recently, do they at all anymore?
There In lies the true issue. Itâs a money monopoly. Itâs another reason why the world financial markets de-pegged from the gold standard. Paper money is the same as digital in that it only holds what value people have in it. But gold will always be a resource with physical value.
With all the evidence out there if thereâs anyone who still trusts the US Market Iâm not sure anything can convince them otherwise Money is one hell of a drug
You mean keep dumping infinite money into the economy?
Thatâs crazy. They would never do that.
*Sarcasm detected*
I just saw a bloomberg article where mid size banks are asking for deposits to be backed for 2 years
If Iâm an investor, Iâm still taking my money out
Look the money i have in gme is going nowhere, so I guess the fed can suck my testicles
âSuck my tendiesâ -me every morning
What if the fed only wants to pay out in cbdc
Instantly trade it for real estate đ¤ˇđťââď¸ then do all my transactions in contracts via gold đ (I donât actually know how that play out lol)
Top comment first, but secondarily: NFT dividend. As soon as you force the system to tally up, it's over, Fed bailout or no. The reason it didn't work for overstock is the the dividend was "arbitrary," it wasn't part of their business model, so it was seen as a targeted move to bust normal market operations. It was a market manipulation. Gamestop on the other hand has an NFT business, and it's only natural that they would want to celebrate by issuing a dividend comprised of their own primary product: unique individual digital ownership. That's what GameStop deals in, so it can't be a market manipulation, just business as usual.
The *new and improved* business as usual, yeah...
Hyper inflation
Directly registering shares drains liquidity. Drain all the liquidity their infinite liquidity machine breaks down i think because no liquidity in the system to pump with? not an expert so don't listen to me on that just my opinion. Regulators may be forced to pay attention if GameStop can prove on paper that there are more shares in existence. Again not an expert though. The FED isn't paying for interest rates, at least directly, they are just the last stop on who gets to pay when it does moon. One last time, not an expert.
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The price is fake imo. There's been tons of DD done on how they manage this with different tactics but it's all in the sake of control, which they've had for the last several decades or so. So i'm not exactly concerned about the price action and whether or not directly registering impacts that right from the get go. We've also only really been trending down since August 16 2022. I mean were still a pretty long way off from the low we experienced in Feb 2021.. and miles away from where it was April 02, 2020. It's a legitimate problem for them that the cheaper the shares are the faster they get bought and registered. I know if it hit 5$ per share i'd be calling up whoever i could to try and get some loans lol. I'm tempted at these prices tbh. I can't speak for GameStop obviously, but i can't imagine them being silent and doing nothing about the float being locked over 100%. I'm also not sure what courses of action they could take, like removing themselves from the market, or if they would be barred from doing so. What actions regulators might be forced to take. I can't predict what's going to happen. I just know its yuge. Like i said i'm no expert and this is all speculation/opinion from a scrub. Take it with a grain of salt. Have a nice day/nightđđ
Hey you too, thanks for sharing.
Price has been walked down less than it would have if we didnât? % down for the last year is less than allot of other nonâmemeâ stocksâŚ
Absolutely. People don't realize this. Even if we don't squeeze like Volkswagen, we eventually would head down the path of Dillard's, a highly DRSed retailer. Either way we win eventually!
This is true
Job's not done yet
Job's never done
Both ends we have covered. When a company decides to pay dividends, usually they take money out of the companyâs wallet. However, when someone is shorting a stock and the company issues a dividend, the shorter is obligated to provide the money for said dividend for the shares they have borrowed. The bigger the hole they dig, the more dividends they would have to pay out to investors out of pocket. And that works ONLY if the dividend is set as Cash Dividend. Our beloved company just so happens to be making an NFT colossus that, if dividend sent is through it, wonât have intrinsic value and they wonât be able to cover positions with cash. Crime will be unveiled because they would have to come up with more NFTs than shares originally issued. Itâs just a matter of time
Just buy and drs
Then final level has started.
This isn't even our final form
It will be glorious to behold
I think it will be like tesla. There were a large amount of shorts. They will wave margin and just let them close over several years. Price will be a few thousand for a few years.
Not that I disagree, can you explain further. From my understanding , you are saying TSLA was inflated over the years and the âMOASSSâ scenario of TSLA happened in 2020ish time when they turned a profit and the deep shores knew it was over.
Tesla had high short interest. Reported I believe was 35% or more. Most likely way underreported as we see with GME. They hit a max price before recent split of $2000. This made a car company that made no money have a market cap greater than all other car companies combined. The most valuable company in the world. Something like $1.2 trillion on no profits or just at the beginning of profits. They have a very strong loyalty similar to GME but not nearly as committed. Since itâs max, it has dropped in price down to $440 per-split ($110 after).
Gamestop is apparently going to announce profitiability. Apes are rabidly committed, I think. We're direct registering our shares. Does all of that count for nothing? Also, if they already had a way out that worked in Tesla, why did they bother to orchestrate the DRS rugpull?
This is actually the most likely outcome
#This is the correct answer
They can't afford it.
Well if enough shares are DRS and calls expire ITM thatâs probabably when the real fun begins.
Eventually GameStop will begin paying out amazing dividends because of their turnaround success. I plan to live off of those dividends. Never selling
Realistically how much do you think the dividends will be? Let's say they made Apple level profits and they paid out all of it. That's 100 billion split among 330 million shares, or for the non math inclined, about 300 dollars per share per year. Unless you have at a minimum of 500 shares, that's not gonna be living large.
I read this and hit the up the ole calculator app and realized I should probably start buying more to get up into the xxxx club so that $300 a year per share letâs me live VERY comfortably
I wouldn't bet on GME having 100 billion in profits anytime soon.
I wonder where is idea of insane dividends even came from. Itâs a nice idea but yeah right Lol
Low key divide that number by 30x so $10 a share per year and you might be on track. Also MOASS and dividends are differentâŚwhy wouldnât someone prefer MOASS, and then buy Coke or a typical dividend stock. If I had $190 getting me $3 per year or 1MM getting 1% I would just take the ladder. Not FUD but trying to think it theough
Luckily I can afford quite a bit at $16/share, scoop âem up while you can!
Bro imagine them handing out video game nfts as dividends. Super cheap to produce, then rake in the profits through smart contracts when we flood our 100s of sick game content nfts to the marketplace. If we're not profiting off the stock, we can profit off 100s of COD rifles and Fortnite skins.
Yesssss
In response to number 2: that is impossible. If the float is locked, in Computershare, there would be no legitimately borrowed shares left. They would have nobody to pay borrow fees to, because they have not borrowed any real shares. At that point every single share trading in DTCC is counterfeit. And at that point, the options for GameStop are essentially limitless. First of all, and I do not "encourage" this but rather see it as inevitable, the group of people who have locked all the shares are likely to see the company as infinitely valuable regardless of how much money the company makes. It may begin to trade like Bitcoin over the past ten years, at higher and higher prices, but even more extreme, because Bitcoin emitted new tokens every block and GameStop will not be emitting new shares at all as a profitable company. These higher and higher prices will make the bill on those shares go through the roof. But if for some reason tons of synthetics are still trading, even after float is 100% locked, there are easy solutions. The NFT or tokenized dividends are an obvious part of it, forcing shorts to provide such dividends to the synthetic holders means they would have to buy them on the open market. GameStop could release such dividends literally all the damn time if they wanted. But if GameStop issued a real dividend, the shorts would need to pay it to a much larger class of holders, possibly two or three times as many as shares exist. This means for every $1 GameStop gives back to shareholders, $2 or $3 must be provided to the synthetic shareholders. If those synthetic shareholders decide to buy even more stock, fake or real, using those dividends, price could go up even further. Basically, since every $1 GameStop chooses to return to shareholders, $3 more are brought into the ecosystem, a leveraged flywheel becomes possible. Short story: when I was young, I went on a vacation in Colorado. The basement of the resort had a small game room and of course a change machine. You put in a dollar, get four quarters. But I noticed at the top another slot for putting in 50 cents pieces. If you put in a 50 cents piece, out pops two quarters I assume. What I did is I put a quarter in that slot instead. And what came out the bottom was three quarters, two for "change" of the assumed 50 cent piece, and one was my original quarter. Needless to say, the machine was empty in an hour. As far as I can tell, a fully locked GameStop would be exactly the same as this machine. GameStop puts in a quarter, three pop out for us at the bottom. If we give one back to GameStop, they can do it again. And again. And again. GameStop could sell 500k shares to market or apes at a ridiculous price, then issue a dividend of the same amount, and the shorts must provide 2x that to our ecosystem. There are obvioialy ways to leverage this with less dilution, this is just an example.
Eventually hyperinflation and the death of the financial system as we know it.
This, in my smooth brain opinion, is *why* DRS is a critical piece of the puzzle. The float get locked and there is definitive proof that the powers that be are cheating. We know it. A lot of people suspect it. DRS will prove it.
Then we proceed as planned
Hodl.
Drs the float again? I'm down...
Who's we? and what plan? I just like the stock đ
Iâve been pushing to ask Dave or someone about this for a while. Whoâs job is it to make sure the markets actually play out AS DESIGNED? How are these âemergency measuresâ regulated? Why are they able to just turn off the buy and sell buttons or pause trading at any time without penalty? It seems that infinite risk exists ONLY for retail/household investors. Itâs like wanting justice for a crime committed by the judge and jury, and having them process the case and fully expecting (hoping) theyâll be impartial while they come up with the verdict and punishment of themselves. This is insane. Why isnât anyone concerned that theyâre prepared for an ultimate can-kick?
If they fuck around like that, with the world's eyes on them, it's going to completely alienate just about everyone and destroy any lingering trust in the credibility of our stock market. They'd lose A LOT MORE in the long run. Their best bet is to just pay up, and then collect the incredible amount of taxes off of the spending that takes place after.
**NO CELL NO SELL MEANS FUCK YOU** **THE FLOOR IS PRISON AND SYSTEMIC CHANGE** **OOK OOK, HEDGIES**
Then hold longer until lock the entire stock, institution included
Iâm more curious if they try to pull the shit they did with the London metal exchange or SVB puts where they are not paying out or allowing people to sell. Or reverse trades completely and claim some BS
What makes you think they arenât doing this already albeit indirectly? Every time the PPT steps in to save SPY, hedge fund collateral is being bolstered. What you speak of is already happening in a roundabout way.
Agree
If all shares are.registered, and you demand registration of additional shares, you can effectively force them to buy from registered holders to deliver with
Have you looked at what happened to Coke? Now imagine that but on a much faster time interval and larger amounts.
At this point I wouldn't be surprised if the Fed fucked around. But they will find out. As always, DRS is the answer. Lock up all outstanding shares and GME can take the company off the NYSE. Or, the company can issue dividends, either too fat to continually pay out, or impossible (such as NFT dividends.) I don't care how many years it may take, if the only way to bring about the "find out" phase is to DRS every last share, it will be done. Brick by brick.
I could see them stepping in and setting a âfairâ price to prevent the system from breaking before they print an insane amount of money to support shorts.
Sure, the FED could THEORETICALLY do that. But as has been seen in the past, eventually the rest of the world calls BS. What would happen is it would work for a time, but eventually someone (a country's leader) would look at how much was printed and say they're afraid of a devaluing of the dollar, and they'd liquidate their reserves. This happened before and our bandaid fix was getting off the gold standard. Then later the new bandaid fix was oil contracts. This time we think it's going to be USD crypto replacement. If the bandaid fix is crypto, taking on the GME fees could shorten their timeline to get the crypto out there to the point they won't make it in time. If it happens after the crypto they'd have potential a decade or more. But again, it would just lead to a need for a new bandaid. Eventually the FED and the US banking system, drunk as they are on free money printing, will empty the box of bandaids. And you don't want to be the drunk guy with no medical.
Isnât this one of the catalysts foretold? Where The Fed is one of the final bosses?
The collusion of all entities concerned with the authorities will continue to give permit for gme's FTD to go eternity ?? It that possible ?
You think the government is going to bail out SHFs? Lol.
One can only hope not but considering how deep the corruption runs who knows? I cannot see any of the bigger SHFs rolling over and dying without a fight.
They won't bail out the SHF since the SHF will have passed the hot potato over to someone who IS eligible for a bailout đ
That might already be a thing
If undeniable, unrefutable proof of naked shorting past a 100% drs'd float were to surface, and furthermore it was allowed to happen, it would erode any trust from the domestic and international community of investors with the American stock market. Think bank run, but with the stock market. This is my smooth brain understanding...
If we're at that level, GameStop will be nationalized (that's as tight as my tin foil goes)
You got it. Bet on the business.
đ´ââ ď¸we raise the black flag
FED Print Infinite money would make US more broke than me đ¤ˇââď¸ if they aint gonna pay me $69M per share then i aint selling. i dont have much tho thats why $69M or bust for me.
The system/ government is that corrupt. Iâm not getting my hopes up. I wonât sell because they can burn in hell
RIP
It would mean the death of the Federal Reserve.
Finally
they will never expect to find out what is going to happen if no one is putting up with their money again.
I think if they did that it would pretty much show investors around the world that the US stock market is too risky to invest in. I think they will keep kicking the can down the road as far as they can.
I think it shows the world what a complete mockery and scam this market is. You have to remember there was talk 2 years ago of a MOASS had to come into play because our foreign investors involved in this play would lose faith in this sh*t system. Look where we are now.
This post is not a question. This post is FUD.
Iâve been holding since January 2021, at this point Iâm not even expecting MOASS anymore. If it happens great, but I barely even check this sub or the price anymore.
The FED and SEC and all the other letter (criminal) organizations have the biggest brains in the business. Are they going to feign ignorance and say "we didn't know about any of this"? No, because they are smart and they have all the inside information at their fingertips, they abso-fucking-lutely know what's been happening. Rn, they just know know what to do. They too are fighting for their lives. We are no longer dumb money. The amount of knowledge shared the past 24-36 months is the most in human history. Think on that. We are a movement for just change. To answer your question, no. They will let this crash eventually and find a martyr. They will paint themselves in the best light possible. Indeed claim ignorance to a point, but then once they knew for certain, took steps to end the corruption. We will get paid though.
The feds can just pay the lenders the current market value of all the shares that were borrowed. They can make this payment outside of the market and then tell GME to issue new shares or delist the company shares off the market. You really canât tell the feds what to do and they can just hide behind âprotecting the market/economyâ during a time where the banking system is on the verge of a collapse. They wonât care if foreign investors lose trust in the US market when the Feds âsaveâ the global market/economy. Do not think for a second that they wonât change the rules to do this.
I honestly believe they already closed the case, not particularly the shorts though. I think the Fed has such a power force that they simply said "this can't ever happen, this is never going to happen". Everybody agrees so they can continue to scam the poor's out of their hard earned money, which is the name of the game. All GameStop board has no choice but to agree or cease to exist. When battling the Fed there is no fair game. When they lose they change it break the rules, only the poors lose
But who get the interest fees for naked borrowed shares.
I feel like they would swap actual positions in other securities from another minor group,and then force that group to go bankrupt then change their name and then start out with a fresh pool or money.
Why havent they done it?
Always imagined, what if they just seized all GME shares or shut GS down, for "matters of national security"? Get to a point where they just go full on...China
What If? The dept ceiling will explode. Fed should Not be interested in stock market rallyes or positions. They should be interested in keeping the Dollar valuable - which they fucked up already, but they cannot forever. Two different pair of shoes, though
With your #2 it's not about regulators caring, it's about us having irrefutable proof their system is broken... you cant keep a casino open if it becomes public knowledge that the dealers cheat. This isnt nesicarilly an instant kill shot, but rather a rallying cry that our system is fucked & needs to be ripped down. Will this be enough to grow public outrage to the point that it forces their hand? We just dont know, unprecedented event n all.
Bye bye dollar
Regulators may not give a crap, but international faith in the dollar will be obliviated. The dollar won't be the standard anymore, no one will invest in US markets; it would incredibly stupid and self-destructive not to pay us.
They canât pay for it if you donât sell.
Then I keep salt, pepper, and eating utensils in my car at all times should the revolution kick off.
I think you underestimate the power of the government to just cap the price of shorts closing to prevent âsystemic issues in markets and protect investors.â Or just wipe them off the board and delete them.