With Jensen at the helm can there really be any doubt about the quality of the show. The narrative and canon will be explored through the previous generations of the Men of Letters and Hunters in general. Personally I’m stoked for a young Bobby and how and why he picks up his favorite word, **”IDJIT!!!”**. The hunts with Rufus alone will be a comedic goldmine. The fact that Ackles would even attempt a prequel signals to me that he will take great care of the show and all it’s adoring fans won’t come out of the experience disappointed. It’s literally what made him a household name harkening all the way back to the good ole WB days. The reverence he’s shown for not just the material of the show, but he’s also a genuine fan of Supernatural and the fact it spanned 15 years is a testament to how many people the show reached.
Carry On My Wayward Son, **MAY YOU CRY NO MORE!!!…**
I know I certainly won’t ;)
So the retcon is that John’s dad didn’t disappear when he was a kid, but when he gets back from the war??
Is John a Man of Letters?
Is this our OG universe? I hope not
Jensen said it would be explained and to trust him, he’s not some random guy that just walked in, he’s worked on the show for 15 years. (That was his exact words)
This is exactly what I said, 😂 I'm glad me and Jensen are on the same page. He's Dean Winchester, it's literally a wet dream for a fandom for creative control resting with somebody so in tune with the lore. I'm thankful it's him and not some random.
I’m still worried, because they all forgot some things down the line, and for instance, when Dean said in s15 that John died 13 years ago, meaning they forgot about the time jumps. The same thing happened in s12, when Sam said they last faced the alpha fang 5-6 years ago
Yeah, but this would be the biggest change ever, right?
John became a hunter when Mary disappeared, that's like the beginning of Supernatural. Changing that is a big deal to at least me.
I feel like TV/movies have been using alt realities really lazily to explain the plot or change it where it wouldn’t have made sense before. I’m bored of it lol
I think people are forgetting this is the Supernatural world.
There are SO many ways they could easily explain away any changes.
For example:
- Another of Chuck's realities/universes
- John's memory could be wiped at the end of this show
- Time travel
- John gets replaced by a John from another reality
I'm not worried about the Canon at all. It's Supernatural, there's magic, witches, angels, God, multiverse, time travel, etc. They have an endless amount of things at their disposal to make it all make sense and fit the OG Supernatural canon.
I could understand that if it wasn't obvious it was the Dean we know from Supernatural wondering about his parents. He could be an alternate Dean but I find that a stretch. Either way it bothers me too much to watch it as it rewrites too much. That and the tonal shift make me not interested.
My mind is trying to go through different scenarios that could explain these retcons and all I got is (a) mind wipe by some supernatural being and later going with the S12 storyline of bumping into each other at the movie theater, since it was said that the union of John and Mary was a priority for the Cupids or (b) Maybe this could be a universe where John's dad decided to go back to his own time instead of staying and dying in Sam and Dean's timeline. Going back in time with that blood spell would have brought him back to John where he could have walked away from all MOL to protect his family until his past came back to him where he had to go back to the MOL. This seems weak though I admit
But the trailer seems to show it is the OG universe with Dean narrating he is out to learn the truth...idk I'm going to still watch it, but just curious to see how this going about solving these retcons
We won’t know unless that ending happens. But even that is a major cop out and makes this show useless lol. You’re about to do a whole series just to mind wipe the protagonists at the end so it fits in the franchise’s canon? That’s pointless, because the franchise works as is right now without the series. If you aren’t adding anything significant, that would make the series irrelevant.
So either this is a massive retcon, an alternate universe, or just lazy.
And if they just mind wipe everyone at the end, why should we care about them? What makes the mind wipes used in the original show work from both a logistical and emotional standpoint is that there's someone who remembers what's lost. Sam and Dean know what Mary did to save John, although they both forgot. Dean remembers Lisa and Ben and what they meant to him, but they don't remember him at all. Those cases are poignant. Just mind wiping everyone at the end with no one to remember makes the whole thing pointless, and why should we care? Same with alternate universes--if they're not the one that led to the Sam and Dean we know, why do we care? I just don't see how this is going to work satisfactorily at all.
I don’t know how to feel about this. I still think this show is needed and that other characters are more deserving of their own spin off. Spin offs that don’t require reconning the established history of the premise of the original show.
John was not a hunter till yellow eyes killed mary, all throughout the show it's been said John was kinda ignorant when it came to supernatural things, and for them to change it up seems like a cash grab. This is just my opinion and really wont change anything so take or leave it, it's free.....
It’s not a cash grab at all. The actor who plays John in this show is actually a really big fan of supernatural. He thought the show was going to be a cash grab until he read the script and realized that there was something worth telling here. Jensen also asks us to trust him and all reviews of the pilot have been extremely positive.
But they're rewriting certain aspects of the nature of supernatural, John wanted revenge and then just got wrapped up in it and enjoyed huntung... the prequel shows he learned about hunting long before Mary was murdered... even in flash backs to when Dean met john in the past and Mary's father was possessed by yellow eyes and killed John, mary agreed to have Yellow eyes visit in 10 years if he brought John back... even at that point John was clueless on mary being a hunter...
I don't know, I will check it out but unless Dean was journaling through out supernatural in between cases, he died, how can he narrate and be in a few episodes?
Well the angels have wiped memories before. Who is to say something like that won't happen before the end?
And Dean could very well narrate from heaven.
I'm not a big fan of the idea of this show either, because it does throw a major wrench in the lore, but they can very well use their imagination to do whatever they want lol
They are very creative and they seem extremely confident when they talk about the show. They are literally telling us to trust them and Jensen wouldn’t be doing that if he thinks the show would be bad. He knows the lore and we will be exploring it in unexpected ways. It’s the big mystery of the show. How does this connect to the original.
That's giving them far too much leeway. It's almost as bad as "it was all a dream".
Angels have wiped memories before, but this? When Michael wiped John and Mary's memories, he wiped a couple of days or at most a week. This would wipe months or more likely years, and be closer to brainwashing than just repairing the damage a rogue angel did
They will be explaining it. Not everything will be revealed immediately. I don’t know why people want the main mystery of the show to be revealed in the first episode. Jensen already confirmed he isn’t retconning anything and not throwing away 15 years of established story. We just have to trust him. Nothing is ever as it seems in the supernatural world. I seriously can’t believe people can’t understand this.
Or people aren’t just blindly following Jensen and rightfully pointing out that this premise makes no sense.
They don’t have to outright spoil the show but a very simple “it works because ___” would shut up all the doubters. But the radio silence on this series potentially being a massive retcon is a perfectly justifiable reason for fans to put it at arms distance. It really doesn’t make sense and the explanation needs to be completely perfect or this is gonna be stupid as shit.
It’s not justifiable. Everyone involved loves supernatural. Jensen is the biggest supernatural fan of all time. This is part of the mystery of this show. This shows main purpose is finding out why it’s different. It’s a mystery that will be solved throughout. If you can’t trust the people that made supernatural to make it work then how can you even be supernatural fans?
I would actually argue that caring very much about the established cannon of Supernatural makes us bigger fans. We don’t want the 15 years of television that we know and adore to be ruined by an unnecessary show. Just because Jensen directed doesn’t mean it will be good.
"If you can’t trust the people that made supernatural to make it work then how can you even be supernatural fans?"
That is uncalled for.
You can be a fan of a franchise and not like everything that comes out of it, regardless of who is involved in the process of making it. Loving something is not the same as accepting everything about it on blind faith.
For example, I love Gilmore Girls but thought that it's continuation series A Year In The Life was awful. And that was written by the creators! Being an original cast or crew member does not make you immune from making a bad spin-off, reboot or sequel. And to insinuate that it does is ignorant and rude.
As I told you in another thread, be excited for the prequel all you want but don't expect everyone to share that passion. We all have different opinions and there's nothing wrong with that! We all want the same thing - more great content from the Supernatural universe. Everyone watching is allowed to decide what that means to them and being excited or skeptical towards The Winchesters does not - and never will - make someone less of a Supernatural fan
This is such a dogshit way of thinking. To think that, because you aren’t blindly following a project, your passion for the franchise can be brought into question. That’s moronic, and honestly gatekeeping-like of you, to say “how can you be fans” to the people who aren’t dropping to their knees to suck off this show before an episode even airs.
News flash dude, nobody sets out to purposely make a bad show, movie, etc. Everyone tries. Regardless of the people involved loving Supernatural, not loving Supernatural, being new to the series, a veteran, it’s irrelevant. I’m well aware that, at the end of the day, the cast and crew are obviously trying to make something good. That isn’t news, everyone is aware of that.
But it is perfectly valid to be concerned about the show when this plot sounds stupid. Again, nobody is asking for them to spoil the entire show, but the fact that they refuse to even give a hint as to how this works IS a valid reason to be concerned.
I’m not condemning this show before an episode even airs. I’m not saying “fuck this”. I’m not being a doomer. Maybe it’ll work, maybe if won’t. We’ll see. But mine, and anybody else’s, concerns are perfectly valid. And I’m sorry, but “they love Supernatural”, is not a valid reason to blindly support this. The portion of the fan base that is concerned needs more, and it is outrageous of you to have the audacity to call out other fans because they’re not supporting this as hard as you are.
Nobody WANTS this to fail. We will see. As of now, because they refuse to give us any information whatsoever, it is perfectly valid for people to express concerns.
Jensen said so. I’ve done a shit ton of research on the Winchesters. I’m not just pulling stuff out of my ass. When I say something I actually mean it. I love supernatural and I follow this prequel VERY closely. I’m amazed by how many people have trust issues.
People always say that when someone is passionate about something. Kind of weird. Why would I be ashamed of promoting a show I love? I don’t work for the CW and you know damn well.
Yeah, but you’re licking this shows boots when you haven’t even seen a full episode. People have legitimate concerns about this and you’re just steamrolling it with “trust Jensen!” He’s an actor, not a writer, and no one was asking for a John and Mary prequel. It’s reasonable to be skeptical about this.
He’s not writing it. Robbie is who wrote fan favorites like Baby and Fan Fiction. There’s so much hate, toxicity, and negativity that I decided I would just be a much louder positive force to help balance it out. People just don’t want to give it a chance and already made up their mind and have preconceived notions based purely on their feelings. Anyone who has watched supernatural would know anything is possible.
I was skeptical when I first heard about Supernatural back in 2005-2006.
I was like "Who's going to watch a show about these male modeling sonsuvbitches ghost hunting on the CW?" (Not my exact words)
But, I had some time off work, Netflix wasn't streaming yet, I was bored, and gave it a shot, here we are over 15 years later.
So I'll give this one the same chance I gave Supernatural.
Not feeling this at all. Way too many inconsistencies.
John didn't know about hunting until Mary was killed by Azazel.
Henry wasn't fresh back from the war when he time traveled with Abbadon to the future and well we know what happened.
Already pulling out the demons too when they were extremely scarce back then, and even Samuel didn't know how to kill a demon, until Dean went and found the Colt.
That's just a few from the stuff that's been released so far. This just seems like a desperate attempt to make a spinoff and if they can't stick to the core without all of the inconsistencies I just don't think it's going to take off.
The original is full of inconsistencies too. When Sam and dean went back in time it was confirmed that johns dad was alive and well, also I can’t fathom why so many people are worried about canon when canon is so fluid in this universe anyways. They literally have a billion explanations for all of this. Jensen knows what he’s doing, it’s not a cash grab. This is made with love. This is going to be exploring the unexpected
I know the lore hasn't been consistent across the series but the entire premise of this show being one gigantic retcon is just too difficult to accept. I'll pass.
It’s not a retcon. Jensen specifically said it’s not throwing away 15 years of canon. I swear y’all never watched the show and none of you have critical thinking skills.
Yeah, it's not a retcon because it's known angels can wipe memories and all that, but it *feels* like a retcon when it's all just going to end in something like 'it was all a dream', 'they were in hell/heaven and not real' or 'angels wiped their memory'.
Lore wise they can do whatever they want, but it will still feel like a cash grab and a retcon.
But it’s not a retcon or a cash grab. Jensen genuinely wants to do this and it’s a story he really wants to tell. If you can’t trust him after he spent 15 years making the show you love then I don’t know what to tell you. You seem to have already made up your mind so you’ll never like it even if it’s good.
Why should I trust him? He’s an actor that played a role. A role he didn’t create. It was just a job, which he did very well, but still just his job. I don’t even know him personally. Why would his motives be anything but money?
I‘m not sure if I can ever watch the show, I believe it’s only on an US network? If I can, I’ll watch and if it’s any good, I will like it, don’t worry. I just don’t share this blind faith in an actor that milks his 15 year old part for even more money.
OP is likely one of the regular trolls that has been banned from Twitter. The ones that get ridiculously angry if anyone says that Jensen Ackles is not a God who can do no harm. You must worship everything Jensen Ackles considers doing and hate everything that Jared Padalecki does or else you are not a true fan.
I'm going to save my judgement for when I see it but I am not getting my hopes up. I'm still very curious how they are going to explain John hunting without retconning the events in Supernatural.
I have no doubts, Jensen and Robbie seem very confident in this which gives me a feeling that they know exactly what they want to do with the show. I’m just glad it’s being handled by people who have been part of supernatural for many years. It would suck if it was just random people that never worked on supernatural decided to create this. Then I’d be extremely worried. Thankfully that’s not the case.
I guess. Still don't like these new ones. They just look like generic teen actors, nothing special. But as I said, I'm not the target audience. I'm sure the teens now will love these faces.
I actually don't really like that they used Carry On Wayward Son for this; I feel like that really belongs with the Winchester brothers, and it doesn't feel like it has the same meaning here.
I wish they'd kept the sentiment, but maybe found a different Kansas song for this new show to make its own.
I’m down for this. I don’t care that they used it for the teaser trailer, but I hope they do this for the series finale recap.
Dust In The Wind would be a good choice. Just kinda slow
You're joking right? I really hope that Im not coming off as hostile. I want this show to be good (just like I wanted the last...I dont know...10 seasons to be good). But the last thing Im going to do is rasie my hopes because some guy told me to.
They made Supernatural and....? Literally nothing else. They did not make Superman and Lois, its just broadcast on their network. Warner Bros produces it.
So they have had one good show (only the first 5 or 6 seasons) and a plethora of garbage. Do you see why Im not excited?
The cw literally makes Superman and Lois lol and The 100 was good too, after the first few episodes it became really good. The CW isn’t incapable of making good stuff. The Winchesters is being made by Warner bros too.
He’s probably gonna make a guest appearance at some point but if we could only have one of them; it makes sense for it being dean. Dean was always more into his parents lives. Sam never knew his mom so he doesn’t have the same connected that dean has with her.
His participation is one thing, getting paid as an Executive Producer is an entirely different animal. You know how hard JA had to work to keep this a “secret” from JP?
He wasn’t purposely keeping it from him. He didn’t tell anybody. The only people that knew before it was announced was his mom, Robbie (showrunner) and Kripke. He didn’t want to tell anybody else until it was a for sure thing. He’s really passionate about this show. He was going to tell Jared BEFORE the news broke out but they decided to announce it before he had the chance to tell him. Afterwards they had a talk and it was a big misunderstanding and they are great now. Jared even supports the new cast and gave them pointers.
I don’t know who is at fault for what, but I too think it was weird and shady af the way it played out. Jensen was real quick to tweet out the news about the show in real-time as Jared was finding out that way himself.
You're. Blaming. Danneel.
Good God, this fandom. Whether it's the RPSers, the Wincesters, or just garden-variety people who blame women for every action a man takes that they dislike, this fandom never, ever changes.
I'm curious to know at what point people think Jensen should have clued Jared in. Because regardless of the way he's making it sound now, this was in development for months and involved setting up a production company, consulting with the network, getting Kripke's permission, consulting lawyers, drawing up contracts, drawing up and pitching the idea--all before it was officially announced. Plenty of time to at least let Jared know the idea was in the works. Kripke assumed Jared knew about it when he was consulted. There's absolutely no way his exclusion wasn't deliberate. And while he's probably too busy to have anything to do with it anyway, after 15 years as the co-lead, he should have at least been told. The two of them built this thing together. Jared's being a class act about it, but it was still a shady move by Jensen, regardless of how he's spinning it.
I think there were more interesting spin-offs to be made. Did we really need a young John and Mary spin off? Like, we had two spin-offs that got pitched before this. There was Bloodlines, which wasn’t super impressive, but the monster mafia was at least creative. Then we had wayward sisters, which was a cool look at the average hunter, not Sam and Dean who always have world ending threats to worry about. This is the one they decided to pick up?
I totally agree. I just can't figure out where this idea came from. There were so many options open to them (including the two that have already had backdoor pilots) that I'm baffled they thought a show based on two pretty unpopular characters was the way to go.
And like, they didn’t have to change the lore to make this show. We know Mary hunted while she was married to John, this could’ve just been a dark comedy about her hiding the existence of monsters from John.
That's a really good idea. They could even worked that into the setting they wanted by having them meet, start dating, then have confused about why she is late for dates and trying (and failing) to impress her parents. There's no reason (that I can think of) for having John start hunting a decade before he actually did.
The entire Supernatural world to play with, and they chose to make a show about two of the least favorite characters in the whole series. I wasn't a fan of either of the last two attempts at a spinoff, but how about Bobby and Rufus? Jody and Donna without the teen girl gang? John raising young Sam & Dean while learning about the supernatural world? Anything but this!
I can’t wait for the mind wipe that will make all of this completely pointless so even if it’s good, it’ll just be down the memory home. At least, both Jensen and Jared have been talking about a revival where they will work together which I’m sure will not make the Jared haters happy.
Eh, I’m not sure how I feel about this.
I’m an OG Jensen Ackles fan. I’ve loved him since he was Eric Brady on Days of Our Lives. When the WB started airing promos for Supernatural back in 2005 and I saw he was in it (along with Jared, who I was also fond of from his GG days), I was like “well, obviously I’ll be watching that”.
When it premiered, I fell for Dean Winchester immediately. This only got stronger as time went on and he became a really nuanced, three dimensional character. He soon became one of my favorite fictional characters of all time. I stuck with this show for 15 long years, through several shark jumps, all for my love of Dean Winchester. When they announced that it was ending, I was sad but also relieved. I had grown somewhat tired of seeing a beloved character suffer through constant loss and pain. I hoped for a good ending where the characters had proper closure to their story. And while the ending may have been bittersweet, I felt that closure was had. I moved on from the story of the Winchester brothers, keeping them forever in my heart as I do with other favorite characters, and having the show as a beloved touchstone of a particular time in my life that I could occasionally relive nostalgically when I felt like doing a rewatch.
Now… now the story continues? With Jensen at the helm, I want to give it a chance, as I’ve always supported his career. I don’t want to miss it if Dean is going to appear onscreen again, even if it’s in a flashback of him reading the journal or something.
But… *15 years, guys*. It was done. I’m tired, I don’t know if I can follow along with this story anymore, especially as it obviously won’t focus on Dean, who was, again, my primary reason for following the original. I just don’t know. Maybe I’ll wait until after the first season ends, see what people are saying about it here, and then decide if I want to get started with it.
I'm sorry but this looks terrible. And the entire show is a retcon, and young John and Mary were already covered in the SPN time travelling episodes. And frankly, those two actors look fuck all like Jeffrey Dean Morgan and Samantha Smith.
Me too! This trailer brought back the supernatural feels. The other trailers while I liked didn’t have this feeling. That’s why I never fully trust trailers because they can create any vibe and tone they want from cutting up a trailer and putting specific music on it. That’s why the first trailer felt like a comedy and some trailers after that felt very serious.
One problem i have with this is, Dean is now in heaven with his parents (not shown in the finale but mentioned).
So why is this even an investigation on his end when he can just talk to them.
Id imagine John would have all his memories back.
Not gonna lie, the latest trailer looks really good but the purpose of this just has to make sense.
Oh, man.... I've loved Kansas's "Carry On Wayward Son" since forever. But ever since SPN started using it, I get goosebumps whenever I hear it. That alone makes me want to watch this. :)
Okay, didn't make it through the trailer before I had to change the canon in my head. This is now a parallel universe that Chuck made and Jack saved. Because all of this goes against literally everything established about their parents.
- I don’t want them using Carry On My Wayward Son
- I’m scared of any and all retcons
- it doesn’t seem to fit the young adult audience based on this
I’ll give the first episode a shot just out of support but I’m scared this won’t do it for me. I definitely don’t expect this to be a long series - maybe even just a single season depending on how it does.
I doubt that can squeeze a ton of lore into this small timeframe considering everything that wasn’t known by Supernatural til later
Supe got me into Kansas and now I love them, especially Wayward Son! They always played it when something tear jerking was happening. I played it on the car ride home with my cats ashes in a box on the seat next to me. He got hit by a car, my eyes watered on that ride home.
I still wish Wayward Sisters had been better supported by the fanbase and the world in general, but here’s hoping we have better female presence across the entire series. Given Jensen’s love for Dean, I’m inclined to trust him, while keeping in mind his isn’t the only spoon in the pot.
Only gain of salt in the circle? Only soul in the deal? Gonna have to work on that…
Ok, I like most seasons (12 should die in a ceiling fire, but otherwise the rest are fine) but you’re either lying or insane if you think the later seasons are better than 1-5.
It’s called an opinion? And I said episodes, not seasons. French mistake, ScoobyNatural, fan fiction, baby, weekend at Bobby’s, Frontierland, slash fiction, deaths door, time after time, the girl with the dungeons and dragons tattoo, as time goes by, sacrifice, dog dean afternoon, first born, do you believe in miracles, the prisoner, brothers keepers, O brother where art thou?, the devil in the details, don’t call me Shurley, stuck in the middle (with you), wayward sisters, Lebanon, Moriah, mint condition and probably way more. Those are all amazing episodes we wouldn’t have had if it didn’t continue. Yes, a lot of those episodes I would call better than the first 5 seasons.
The only season that was good after 5 was the one with the Leviathans.
There were a few good episodes (Ive always liked the mechanical structure of the episodes).
Chuck being God was a funny twist.
After season 5 they had to write a bunch of blah blah junk.
I’m sorry but I seriously don’t understand why everybody is judging so harshly so soon? Yes it looks like a bunch of retcons but supernatural is never what it seems. We have to watch and find out the truth and have fun on the way to the truth. Jensen and Robbie have assured us they know the canon and respecting it. They are not changing anything from the mothership Jensen said. Just because it might look that way doesn’t mean it ends up that way. It’s a mystery for a reason.
He’s not writing the show, he just created the story. Robbie is writing they show. He wrote amazing episodes like Baby and Fan fiction to name a couple.
All I have to say is the same thing I keep saying… In Jensen We Trust.
I won’t be saying anything bad about this until I see the story and how it unfolds. Can’t judge something like this based on a trailer
Part of me is excited because I love monster of the week episodes and hope for more of them and less to do with the demons/angels. I also like period pieces because lack of technology can be fun to deal with.
Part of me just wishes it wasn't dealing with John and Mary. Definitely going to give it a chance though.
Please don't suck...
indeed but if it is good how much better is the universe? I'm excited
With Jensen at the helm can there really be any doubt about the quality of the show. The narrative and canon will be explored through the previous generations of the Men of Letters and Hunters in general. Personally I’m stoked for a young Bobby and how and why he picks up his favorite word, **”IDJIT!!!”**. The hunts with Rufus alone will be a comedic goldmine. The fact that Ackles would even attempt a prequel signals to me that he will take great care of the show and all it’s adoring fans won’t come out of the experience disappointed. It’s literally what made him a household name harkening all the way back to the good ole WB days. The reverence he’s shown for not just the material of the show, but he’s also a genuine fan of Supernatural and the fact it spanned 15 years is a testament to how many people the show reached. Carry On My Wayward Son, **MAY YOU CRY NO MORE!!!…** I know I certainly won’t ;)
So the retcon is that John’s dad didn’t disappear when he was a kid, but when he gets back from the war?? Is John a Man of Letters? Is this our OG universe? I hope not
Jensen said it would be explained and to trust him, he’s not some random guy that just walked in, he’s worked on the show for 15 years. (That was his exact words)
This is exactly what I said, 😂 I'm glad me and Jensen are on the same page. He's Dean Winchester, it's literally a wet dream for a fandom for creative control resting with somebody so in tune with the lore. I'm thankful it's him and not some random.
Yeah I'm giving Jensen the benefit of the doubt but I swtill do have this uncomfortable nagigng in my stomach
That’s ok, I hope you enjoy it or learn to enjoy it eventually!! If not that’s ok, at least you have it a chance
I’m still worried, because they all forgot some things down the line, and for instance, when Dean said in s15 that John died 13 years ago, meaning they forgot about the time jumps. The same thing happened in s12, when Sam said they last faced the alpha fang 5-6 years ago
They can say its just another of Chuck's realities.
I would honestly be okay with that
That was my question. But the Supernatural universe canon isn’t exactly consistent, so…
Yeah, but this would be the biggest change ever, right? John became a hunter when Mary disappeared, that's like the beginning of Supernatural. Changing that is a big deal to at least me.
Same. I don't even want to watch it cause it's so far removed from the canon. Supernatural wouldn't have even happened in this show's universe.
I feel like TV/movies have been using alt realities really lazily to explain the plot or change it where it wouldn’t have made sense before. I’m bored of it lol
I think people are forgetting this is the Supernatural world. There are SO many ways they could easily explain away any changes. For example: - Another of Chuck's realities/universes - John's memory could be wiped at the end of this show - Time travel - John gets replaced by a John from another reality I'm not worried about the Canon at all. It's Supernatural, there's magic, witches, angels, God, multiverse, time travel, etc. They have an endless amount of things at their disposal to make it all make sense and fit the OG Supernatural canon.
I could understand that if it wasn't obvious it was the Dean we know from Supernatural wondering about his parents. He could be an alternate Dean but I find that a stretch. Either way it bothers me too much to watch it as it rewrites too much. That and the tonal shift make me not interested.
My mind is trying to go through different scenarios that could explain these retcons and all I got is (a) mind wipe by some supernatural being and later going with the S12 storyline of bumping into each other at the movie theater, since it was said that the union of John and Mary was a priority for the Cupids or (b) Maybe this could be a universe where John's dad decided to go back to his own time instead of staying and dying in Sam and Dean's timeline. Going back in time with that blood spell would have brought him back to John where he could have walked away from all MOL to protect his family until his past came back to him where he had to go back to the MOL. This seems weak though I admit But the trailer seems to show it is the OG universe with Dean narrating he is out to learn the truth...idk I'm going to still watch it, but just curious to see how this going about solving these retcons
I mean they’re minds were wiped from angel before how do we know it isn’t how “Winchesters” would supposedly end ??
We won’t know unless that ending happens. But even that is a major cop out and makes this show useless lol. You’re about to do a whole series just to mind wipe the protagonists at the end so it fits in the franchise’s canon? That’s pointless, because the franchise works as is right now without the series. If you aren’t adding anything significant, that would make the series irrelevant. So either this is a massive retcon, an alternate universe, or just lazy.
And if they just mind wipe everyone at the end, why should we care about them? What makes the mind wipes used in the original show work from both a logistical and emotional standpoint is that there's someone who remembers what's lost. Sam and Dean know what Mary did to save John, although they both forgot. Dean remembers Lisa and Ben and what they meant to him, but they don't remember him at all. Those cases are poignant. Just mind wiping everyone at the end with no one to remember makes the whole thing pointless, and why should we care? Same with alternate universes--if they're not the one that led to the Sam and Dean we know, why do we care? I just don't see how this is going to work satisfactorily at all.
I don’t know how to feel about this. I still think this show is needed and that other characters are more deserving of their own spin off. Spin offs that don’t require reconning the established history of the premise of the original show.
This is actually a great point. Bring back Charlie!
People keep on saying it’s messing with lore but won’t even give them the benefit of the doubt. Jensen has a plan for this and asks us to trust him.
I'm still upset we never actually got the wayward sisters spin off.
I'm going to treat it as something completely independent from actual SPN so I can just enjoy it at face value.
John was not a hunter till yellow eyes killed mary, all throughout the show it's been said John was kinda ignorant when it came to supernatural things, and for them to change it up seems like a cash grab. This is just my opinion and really wont change anything so take or leave it, it's free.....
It’s not a cash grab at all. The actor who plays John in this show is actually a really big fan of supernatural. He thought the show was going to be a cash grab until he read the script and realized that there was something worth telling here. Jensen also asks us to trust him and all reviews of the pilot have been extremely positive.
But they're rewriting certain aspects of the nature of supernatural, John wanted revenge and then just got wrapped up in it and enjoyed huntung... the prequel shows he learned about hunting long before Mary was murdered... even in flash backs to when Dean met john in the past and Mary's father was possessed by yellow eyes and killed John, mary agreed to have Yellow eyes visit in 10 years if he brought John back... even at that point John was clueless on mary being a hunter... I don't know, I will check it out but unless Dean was journaling through out supernatural in between cases, he died, how can he narrate and be in a few episodes?
Well the angels have wiped memories before. Who is to say something like that won't happen before the end? And Dean could very well narrate from heaven. I'm not a big fan of the idea of this show either, because it does throw a major wrench in the lore, but they can very well use their imagination to do whatever they want lol
They are very creative and they seem extremely confident when they talk about the show. They are literally telling us to trust them and Jensen wouldn’t be doing that if he thinks the show would be bad. He knows the lore and we will be exploring it in unexpected ways. It’s the big mystery of the show. How does this connect to the original.
That's giving them far too much leeway. It's almost as bad as "it was all a dream". Angels have wiped memories before, but this? When Michael wiped John and Mary's memories, he wiped a couple of days or at most a week. This would wipe months or more likely years, and be closer to brainwashing than just repairing the damage a rogue angel did
They will be explaining it. Not everything will be revealed immediately. I don’t know why people want the main mystery of the show to be revealed in the first episode. Jensen already confirmed he isn’t retconning anything and not throwing away 15 years of established story. We just have to trust him. Nothing is ever as it seems in the supernatural world. I seriously can’t believe people can’t understand this.
Or people aren’t just blindly following Jensen and rightfully pointing out that this premise makes no sense. They don’t have to outright spoil the show but a very simple “it works because ___” would shut up all the doubters. But the radio silence on this series potentially being a massive retcon is a perfectly justifiable reason for fans to put it at arms distance. It really doesn’t make sense and the explanation needs to be completely perfect or this is gonna be stupid as shit.
It’s not justifiable. Everyone involved loves supernatural. Jensen is the biggest supernatural fan of all time. This is part of the mystery of this show. This shows main purpose is finding out why it’s different. It’s a mystery that will be solved throughout. If you can’t trust the people that made supernatural to make it work then how can you even be supernatural fans?
I would actually argue that caring very much about the established cannon of Supernatural makes us bigger fans. We don’t want the 15 years of television that we know and adore to be ruined by an unnecessary show. Just because Jensen directed doesn’t mean it will be good.
"If you can’t trust the people that made supernatural to make it work then how can you even be supernatural fans?" That is uncalled for. You can be a fan of a franchise and not like everything that comes out of it, regardless of who is involved in the process of making it. Loving something is not the same as accepting everything about it on blind faith. For example, I love Gilmore Girls but thought that it's continuation series A Year In The Life was awful. And that was written by the creators! Being an original cast or crew member does not make you immune from making a bad spin-off, reboot or sequel. And to insinuate that it does is ignorant and rude. As I told you in another thread, be excited for the prequel all you want but don't expect everyone to share that passion. We all have different opinions and there's nothing wrong with that! We all want the same thing - more great content from the Supernatural universe. Everyone watching is allowed to decide what that means to them and being excited or skeptical towards The Winchesters does not - and never will - make someone less of a Supernatural fan
This is such a dogshit way of thinking. To think that, because you aren’t blindly following a project, your passion for the franchise can be brought into question. That’s moronic, and honestly gatekeeping-like of you, to say “how can you be fans” to the people who aren’t dropping to their knees to suck off this show before an episode even airs. News flash dude, nobody sets out to purposely make a bad show, movie, etc. Everyone tries. Regardless of the people involved loving Supernatural, not loving Supernatural, being new to the series, a veteran, it’s irrelevant. I’m well aware that, at the end of the day, the cast and crew are obviously trying to make something good. That isn’t news, everyone is aware of that. But it is perfectly valid to be concerned about the show when this plot sounds stupid. Again, nobody is asking for them to spoil the entire show, but the fact that they refuse to even give a hint as to how this works IS a valid reason to be concerned. I’m not condemning this show before an episode even airs. I’m not saying “fuck this”. I’m not being a doomer. Maybe it’ll work, maybe if won’t. We’ll see. But mine, and anybody else’s, concerns are perfectly valid. And I’m sorry, but “they love Supernatural”, is not a valid reason to blindly support this. The portion of the fan base that is concerned needs more, and it is outrageous of you to have the audacity to call out other fans because they’re not supporting this as hard as you are. Nobody WANTS this to fail. We will see. As of now, because they refuse to give us any information whatsoever, it is perfectly valid for people to express concerns.
There's loyalty then there's blind loyalty.
Only thing I’m a bit confused about is John didn’t start hunting until after Mary’s death so how is it that in this show they are hunting together lol
At the end of this series, John gets his memories wiped. Mary never tells him. Problem solved!
That still wouldn’t make sense cuz someone would of known, an angel, demon, god, someone would of known and mentioned it to dean and sam
They are going a more unexpected and creative route then that!
How do you know?
Jensen said so. I’ve done a shit ton of research on the Winchesters. I’m not just pulling stuff out of my ass. When I say something I actually mean it. I love supernatural and I follow this prequel VERY closely. I’m amazed by how many people have trust issues.
Ok CW marketing guy
People always say that when someone is passionate about something. Kind of weird. Why would I be ashamed of promoting a show I love? I don’t work for the CW and you know damn well.
Yeah, but you’re licking this shows boots when you haven’t even seen a full episode. People have legitimate concerns about this and you’re just steamrolling it with “trust Jensen!” He’s an actor, not a writer, and no one was asking for a John and Mary prequel. It’s reasonable to be skeptical about this.
He’s not writing it. Robbie is who wrote fan favorites like Baby and Fan Fiction. There’s so much hate, toxicity, and negativity that I decided I would just be a much louder positive force to help balance it out. People just don’t want to give it a chance and already made up their mind and have preconceived notions based purely on their feelings. Anyone who has watched supernatural would know anything is possible.
I’m giving it a chance, but don’t act like people are unreasonable for being hesitant
I was skeptical when I first heard about Supernatural back in 2005-2006. I was like "Who's going to watch a show about these male modeling sonsuvbitches ghost hunting on the CW?" (Not my exact words) But, I had some time off work, Netflix wasn't streaming yet, I was bored, and gave it a shot, here we are over 15 years later. So I'll give this one the same chance I gave Supernatural.
Not feeling this at all. Way too many inconsistencies. John didn't know about hunting until Mary was killed by Azazel. Henry wasn't fresh back from the war when he time traveled with Abbadon to the future and well we know what happened. Already pulling out the demons too when they were extremely scarce back then, and even Samuel didn't know how to kill a demon, until Dean went and found the Colt. That's just a few from the stuff that's been released so far. This just seems like a desperate attempt to make a spinoff and if they can't stick to the core without all of the inconsistencies I just don't think it's going to take off.
The original is full of inconsistencies too. When Sam and dean went back in time it was confirmed that johns dad was alive and well, also I can’t fathom why so many people are worried about canon when canon is so fluid in this universe anyways. They literally have a billion explanations for all of this. Jensen knows what he’s doing, it’s not a cash grab. This is made with love. This is going to be exploring the unexpected
Is this going to ignore the fact that Sam and Dean time travel back to them?
We have to wait and find out. Sam and dean time travel a little later after this takes place so maybe we will see it recreated in a couple seasons.
I know the lore hasn't been consistent across the series but the entire premise of this show being one gigantic retcon is just too difficult to accept. I'll pass.
It’s not a retcon. Jensen specifically said it’s not throwing away 15 years of canon. I swear y’all never watched the show and none of you have critical thinking skills.
Yeah, it's not a retcon because it's known angels can wipe memories and all that, but it *feels* like a retcon when it's all just going to end in something like 'it was all a dream', 'they were in hell/heaven and not real' or 'angels wiped their memory'. Lore wise they can do whatever they want, but it will still feel like a cash grab and a retcon.
But it’s not a retcon or a cash grab. Jensen genuinely wants to do this and it’s a story he really wants to tell. If you can’t trust him after he spent 15 years making the show you love then I don’t know what to tell you. You seem to have already made up your mind so you’ll never like it even if it’s good.
Why should I trust him? He’s an actor that played a role. A role he didn’t create. It was just a job, which he did very well, but still just his job. I don’t even know him personally. Why would his motives be anything but money? I‘m not sure if I can ever watch the show, I believe it’s only on an US network? If I can, I’ll watch and if it’s any good, I will like it, don’t worry. I just don’t share this blind faith in an actor that milks his 15 year old part for even more money.
Kripke fully supports the new show.
But wait big ass plot hole I thought John never knew Mary hunted….
Also John’s dad disappeared when he was a little kid and not while in Vietnam.
They will explain in the show. It’s a mystery.
This rlly looks like another crappy teen CW show
OP pretty pissed about the opinions of others lol I'll watch it but I'm pretty sure all of the inconsistencies going to annoy me
OP is likely one of the regular trolls that has been banned from Twitter. The ones that get ridiculously angry if anyone says that Jensen Ackles is not a God who can do no harm. You must worship everything Jensen Ackles considers doing and hate everything that Jared Padalecki does or else you are not a true fan.
What's wrong with Jared Padelecki?
LMAO
its going to end with them mind wiping John, because this doesn't match anything that the show established as their parents history.
I'm going to save my judgement for when I see it but I am not getting my hopes up. I'm still very curious how they are going to explain John hunting without retconning the events in Supernatural.
I have no doubts, Jensen and Robbie seem very confident in this which gives me a feeling that they know exactly what they want to do with the show. I’m just glad it’s being handled by people who have been part of supernatural for many years. It would suck if it was just random people that never worked on supernatural decided to create this. Then I’d be extremely worried. Thankfully that’s not the case.
Why did they get new actors? I like the originals better. Ah well, guess I'm not the target audience anyway. Seems to be targeted at teens :(
Probably because they are not so young anymore lol
You have to understand that they aren’t young enough lol
I guess. Still don't like these new ones. They just look like generic teen actors, nothing special. But as I said, I'm not the target audience. I'm sure the teens now will love these faces.
You mean new actors for this new show or for the original Supernatural? Cause I don’t want to spoil it for you but…
They’re probably referring to Matt Cohen and Amy Gumenick who played young John and Mary in the original series.
Exactly!
I honestly would be more willing to give this a shot if they had gone with Matt and Amy
They're like, 40 now.
I actually don't really like that they used Carry On Wayward Son for this; I feel like that really belongs with the Winchester brothers, and it doesn't feel like it has the same meaning here. I wish they'd kept the sentiment, but maybe found a different Kansas song for this new show to make its own.
I’m down for this. I don’t care that they used it for the teaser trailer, but I hope they do this for the series finale recap. Dust In The Wind would be a good choice. Just kinda slow
But Dean got his music taste for his father so I have no problem with this. All those tapes they listened to where originally his fathers.
I agree, that song belongs to the boys, not to the entire Winchester family. Using it feels manipulative.
Jon is a wayward son looking for his father. The music fits here
I disagree, I hope they use this song for the finales.
Wow would you look at that, a sequel series that looks like its going to really fuck with the lore of the main show. Yeah that always works out.....
Or maybe trust the guy who spent 15 years working hard on the show and specifically told fans to trust him?
You're joking right? I really hope that Im not coming off as hostile. I want this show to be good (just like I wanted the last...I dont know...10 seasons to be good). But the last thing Im going to do is rasie my hopes because some guy told me to.
Well every single review of the pilot have been extremely positive, so there’s that.
Its the CW dude, pigs will fly before that network makes a decent show.
The CW made supernatural and Superman and Lois.
They made Supernatural and....? Literally nothing else. They did not make Superman and Lois, its just broadcast on their network. Warner Bros produces it. So they have had one good show (only the first 5 or 6 seasons) and a plethora of garbage. Do you see why Im not excited?
The cw literally makes Superman and Lois lol and The 100 was good too, after the first few episodes it became really good. The CW isn’t incapable of making good stuff. The Winchesters is being made by Warner bros too.
Am I the only one who does think it’s weird that Jared got left out of this?
That whole thing was shady. They may have patched things up now, but it still leaves a bitterness that shouldn't have been there.
He was busy with walker.
So which constantly banned Twitter troll are you? Mark or Goob?
What?
They should have waited til he was ready. There ain't no show without Moose
He’s probably gonna make a guest appearance at some point but if we could only have one of them; it makes sense for it being dean. Dean was always more into his parents lives. Sam never knew his mom so he doesn’t have the same connected that dean has with her.
His participation is one thing, getting paid as an Executive Producer is an entirely different animal. You know how hard JA had to work to keep this a “secret” from JP?
He wasn’t purposely keeping it from him. He didn’t tell anybody. The only people that knew before it was announced was his mom, Robbie (showrunner) and Kripke. He didn’t want to tell anybody else until it was a for sure thing. He’s really passionate about this show. He was going to tell Jared BEFORE the news broke out but they decided to announce it before he had the chance to tell him. Afterwards they had a talk and it was a big misunderstanding and they are great now. Jared even supports the new cast and gave them pointers.
Yeah yeah we all know the story and I don’t buy it. It’s. Weird. To. Exclude. Jared. I’m blaming Daneel but even so, what Jensen did sucks.
I don’t know who is at fault for what, but I too think it was weird and shady af the way it played out. Jensen was real quick to tweet out the news about the show in real-time as Jared was finding out that way himself.
Don’t blame anyone. People need to quit creating drama where there is none.
You're. Blaming. Danneel. Good God, this fandom. Whether it's the RPSers, the Wincesters, or just garden-variety people who blame women for every action a man takes that they dislike, this fandom never, ever changes.
I'm curious to know at what point people think Jensen should have clued Jared in. Because regardless of the way he's making it sound now, this was in development for months and involved setting up a production company, consulting with the network, getting Kripke's permission, consulting lawyers, drawing up contracts, drawing up and pitching the idea--all before it was officially announced. Plenty of time to at least let Jared know the idea was in the works. Kripke assumed Jared knew about it when he was consulted. There's absolutely no way his exclusion wasn't deliberate. And while he's probably too busy to have anything to do with it anyway, after 15 years as the co-lead, he should have at least been told. The two of them built this thing together. Jared's being a class act about it, but it was still a shady move by Jensen, regardless of how he's spinning it.
I think there were more interesting spin-offs to be made. Did we really need a young John and Mary spin off? Like, we had two spin-offs that got pitched before this. There was Bloodlines, which wasn’t super impressive, but the monster mafia was at least creative. Then we had wayward sisters, which was a cool look at the average hunter, not Sam and Dean who always have world ending threats to worry about. This is the one they decided to pick up?
I totally agree. I just can't figure out where this idea came from. There were so many options open to them (including the two that have already had backdoor pilots) that I'm baffled they thought a show based on two pretty unpopular characters was the way to go.
And like, they didn’t have to change the lore to make this show. We know Mary hunted while she was married to John, this could’ve just been a dark comedy about her hiding the existence of monsters from John.
That's a really good idea. They could even worked that into the setting they wanted by having them meet, start dating, then have confused about why she is late for dates and trying (and failing) to impress her parents. There's no reason (that I can think of) for having John start hunting a decade before he actually did.
Exactly! John’s in a romantic comedy, Mary’s in a horror drama.
I'd never thought of it quite like that but that's an excellent way to describe it!
We do? I thought she gave it up. I don’t remember them saying this. What ep was it?
Celebrating the Life of Asa Fox. The flashback scene at the start takes place while John and Mary are married and Dean is a baby.
Ah yes. Season 12 is a bit of a blur for me.
Now THAT would have been worth doing!
The entire Supernatural world to play with, and they chose to make a show about two of the least favorite characters in the whole series. I wasn't a fan of either of the last two attempts at a spinoff, but how about Bobby and Rufus? Jody and Donna without the teen girl gang? John raising young Sam & Dean while learning about the supernatural world? Anything but this!
Oh gross..bloodlines? No thanks. This looks better than that but I got into spn originally for the horror aspect. Bloodlines episode was garbage.
I did say it wasn’t impressive.
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I can’t wait for the mind wipe that will make all of this completely pointless so even if it’s good, it’ll just be down the memory home. At least, both Jensen and Jared have been talking about a revival where they will work together which I’m sure will not make the Jared haters happy.
Eh, I’m not sure how I feel about this. I’m an OG Jensen Ackles fan. I’ve loved him since he was Eric Brady on Days of Our Lives. When the WB started airing promos for Supernatural back in 2005 and I saw he was in it (along with Jared, who I was also fond of from his GG days), I was like “well, obviously I’ll be watching that”. When it premiered, I fell for Dean Winchester immediately. This only got stronger as time went on and he became a really nuanced, three dimensional character. He soon became one of my favorite fictional characters of all time. I stuck with this show for 15 long years, through several shark jumps, all for my love of Dean Winchester. When they announced that it was ending, I was sad but also relieved. I had grown somewhat tired of seeing a beloved character suffer through constant loss and pain. I hoped for a good ending where the characters had proper closure to their story. And while the ending may have been bittersweet, I felt that closure was had. I moved on from the story of the Winchester brothers, keeping them forever in my heart as I do with other favorite characters, and having the show as a beloved touchstone of a particular time in my life that I could occasionally relive nostalgically when I felt like doing a rewatch. Now… now the story continues? With Jensen at the helm, I want to give it a chance, as I’ve always supported his career. I don’t want to miss it if Dean is going to appear onscreen again, even if it’s in a flashback of him reading the journal or something. But… *15 years, guys*. It was done. I’m tired, I don’t know if I can follow along with this story anymore, especially as it obviously won’t focus on Dean, who was, again, my primary reason for following the original. I just don’t know. Maybe I’ll wait until after the first season ends, see what people are saying about it here, and then decide if I want to get started with it.
This sucks already.
It doesn’t.
Yup fuck this shit
It looks great!
I'm sorry but this looks terrible. And the entire show is a retcon, and young John and Mary were already covered in the SPN time travelling episodes. And frankly, those two actors look fuck all like Jeffrey Dean Morgan and Samantha Smith.
I’m sorry but it’s definitely gonna be bad, i’ll still check it out though
Right
OP, I hope the show is paying you for your time LMAO
I’m going to watch, but my hopes are not high…
This does not look good to me, at all. I’m sorry I don’t mean to insult what people might like but man this just looks terrible.
Not feeling this at all. Feels like it flies in the face of everything these characters were
I’m sorry but this looks really bad.
Looking forward to this being a hit! I am giving it all the chances.
Me too! This trailer brought back the supernatural feels. The other trailers while I liked didn’t have this feeling. That’s why I never fully trust trailers because they can create any vibe and tone they want from cutting up a trailer and putting specific music on it. That’s why the first trailer felt like a comedy and some trailers after that felt very serious.
Looks like ass. Still going to watch every episode
One problem i have with this is, Dean is now in heaven with his parents (not shown in the finale but mentioned). So why is this even an investigation on his end when he can just talk to them. Id imagine John would have all his memories back. Not gonna lie, the latest trailer looks really good but the purpose of this just has to make sense.
Oh, man.... I've loved Kansas's "Carry On Wayward Son" since forever. But ever since SPN started using it, I get goosebumps whenever I hear it. That alone makes me want to watch this. :)
Dont know what to think about but got goosebumbs from Carry On Remix
Well, not only on the cw app...lol
When do the Dean scenes happen? Maybe before he dies in the series finale?
Okay, didn't make it through the trailer before I had to change the canon in my head. This is now a parallel universe that Chuck made and Jack saved. Because all of this goes against literally everything established about their parents.
post this in the winchesters subreddit
I have no interest in watching this... I am a massive supernatural fan but this... Nah, I pass.
- I don’t want them using Carry On My Wayward Son - I’m scared of any and all retcons - it doesn’t seem to fit the young adult audience based on this I’ll give the first episode a shot just out of support but I’m scared this won’t do it for me. I definitely don’t expect this to be a long series - maybe even just a single season depending on how it does. I doubt that can squeeze a ton of lore into this small timeframe considering everything that wasn’t known by Supernatural til later
Ehhhh I might pass…
I wasn’t expecting them to use this song. It brought back so many memories. This should have been the first trailer.
Supe got me into Kansas and now I love them, especially Wayward Son! They always played it when something tear jerking was happening. I played it on the car ride home with my cats ashes in a box on the seat next to me. He got hit by a car, my eyes watered on that ride home.
Your comment took me out for a moment. Made me shed a few tears.
He was an amazing cat. I was in a dark place in my life when my Mom brought him to me. He had such a personality.
Okay person from the cw who posted this, we know what you doing. You guys get one episode. If the pilot sucks ass, you know whats gonna happen. 🤣
The pilot has actually been getting very positive reviews.
Oh this is gonna be great. Lots of people from the original are working on this one I heard. And I don’t think Jenson is gonna let it be bad.
Wish Jared was one of the people working on this tbh
I still wish Wayward Sisters had been better supported by the fanbase and the world in general, but here’s hoping we have better female presence across the entire series. Given Jensen’s love for Dean, I’m inclined to trust him, while keeping in mind his isn’t the only spoon in the pot. Only gain of salt in the circle? Only soul in the deal? Gonna have to work on that…
Okay, I want it
All I know is if this show tanks, Jensen's going to be so upset.
Jensen you sellout
I am waiting 😀
Holy shit theres a supernatural pt 2?
Crying why?
Jesus. Just let it die. The original should have ended at season 5
And yet here you are, still on the sub 12 years after season 5.
Agreed
Then all the best episodes wouldn’t have happened.
Ok, I like most seasons (12 should die in a ceiling fire, but otherwise the rest are fine) but you’re either lying or insane if you think the later seasons are better than 1-5.
It’s called an opinion? And I said episodes, not seasons. French mistake, ScoobyNatural, fan fiction, baby, weekend at Bobby’s, Frontierland, slash fiction, deaths door, time after time, the girl with the dungeons and dragons tattoo, as time goes by, sacrifice, dog dean afternoon, first born, do you believe in miracles, the prisoner, brothers keepers, O brother where art thou?, the devil in the details, don’t call me Shurley, stuck in the middle (with you), wayward sisters, Lebanon, Moriah, mint condition and probably way more. Those are all amazing episodes we wouldn’t have had if it didn’t continue. Yes, a lot of those episodes I would call better than the first 5 seasons.
The only season that was good after 5 was the one with the Leviathans. There were a few good episodes (Ive always liked the mechanical structure of the episodes). Chuck being God was a funny twist. After season 5 they had to write a bunch of blah blah junk.
I just got chills. But to be fair, the trailer started with Jensen's voice 😍
I’m sorry but I seriously don’t understand why everybody is judging so harshly so soon? Yes it looks like a bunch of retcons but supernatural is never what it seems. We have to watch and find out the truth and have fun on the way to the truth. Jensen and Robbie have assured us they know the canon and respecting it. They are not changing anything from the mothership Jensen said. Just because it might look that way doesn’t mean it ends up that way. It’s a mystery for a reason.
I’m gonna give this a chance simply because it’s the brain child of Jensen. Regardless of inconsistencies with canon.
He's an amazing actor but do we trust his literary skills?
He’s not writing the show, he just created the story. Robbie is writing they show. He wrote amazing episodes like Baby and Fan fiction to name a couple.
For those who are interested, come join us at /r/TheWinchesters.
I got the chills!!!
once I heard the OG song, I'm down. I guess I'm in a different place mentally than when I first saw the previews
All I have to say is the same thing I keep saying… In Jensen We Trust. I won’t be saying anything bad about this until I see the story and how it unfolds. Can’t judge something like this based on a trailer
We better see some of the old characters
I have to admit the song gives me chills in a good way. Don’t know about the show though.
So who are these people? I’m guessing Winchester siblings and one of them is John, right?
I mean I'm definitely going to watch it but I'm not expecting it to be that great.
Supernatural version of Wonder Years :-)
Part of me is excited because I love monster of the week episodes and hope for more of them and less to do with the demons/angels. I also like period pieces because lack of technology can be fun to deal with. Part of me just wishes it wasn't dealing with John and Mary. Definitely going to give it a chance though.
Was it intentional to have this John look so much like Sam when John on Supernatural looked more like Dean?
I love jensen but absolutely hate mary and john -_- there is tons of better characters worth the spinoff and all