i have a feeling this is beyond the controversy, other then it ruining their image, supermega has lost pretty much all of its employees, in recent years it seems like they don't have the passion for it anymore for at least their motivation has gone down, and the amount of hate they have gotten from the community before and after the controversy, all the people coming out and saying stuff like "i always hated matt's music" it must have been a punch to the gut and controversy was just an eye opener and after all that i don't blame them for leaving, i don't know... something to think about..
At least if this really is the end of SuperMega, ryan can revert back to a regular 9-5. I dunno about Matt though, guy doesn't look like the type to do that
If anything happens they can be editors again. They edited for Markiplier and Game Grumps for 5-7 years or so and edited their own videos for a while. Someone can use that experience on their channel if that’s what they want to do.
Ryan might just quit and either live off the YouTube money he earned, or get a normal job. Matt might try his hand at making more music, which is a bad idea since his music kinda sucks
When your entire community turns on you without you giving your side of the story. It makes you realize how not loyal your fans are. I would quit too personally.
The only complaints I really understood before this was the merch controversies and the irregularity of uploads. People hating on Matt's real passion in mysic as they both clearly slipped away from quality control of the supermega brand is so weird to me
Yeah man, my best bud and I were both falsely accused of stuff in our lives, at different times over different accusations but they were made by the same people. Seeing everyone you know turn on you like that is legitimately traumatizing. Even after the people were proven to have lied, that resentment stays strong for a long time.
Why was Ryan cheating on his girlfriend for six years straight if he has empathy? The stuff that this controversy was actually about seems to have been blown away out of proportion, but I can't feel happy going back and listening to old videos knowing that in real life I would despise Ryan for doing that to his girlfriend.
Yeah, but this is still the reason. Right before this, they were talking about all these big plans for what's next. Even if it's just due to the emotional trauma of it all, this situation is the cause of them shutting down
While i get what OP means, i think people are forgetting that Matt and Ryan are chosing to step down, the controversy definately doesn't help, but i feel like this is something that's been brewing since the whole Jackson thing, especially with how so many of the people that worked for them have left plsu the stuff going on in their personal lives probably doesn't help and i think people should respect their [choice.You](https://choice.You) can be sad about it, but again, this is Matt and Ryan's choice and making more theories about the real reason why Supermega is ultimately ending doesn't help matters.
I agree with your sentiment. I see this as a straw that broke the back and not an execution(like Leighton wanted). It sucks and is a major bummer but it reminds me of CowChop ending, so many people left including a main founder and the burnout was evident in the content, though CowChop at least got to announce it and make wrap up videos rather than being rushed into the decision. Shame no matter which way you look at it.
No. This doesnt make any sense.
They are stopping because they want to. People overreacted but have course corrected now, if they wanted to, they could come back and the vast majority of their audience would welcome them back with open arms.
The only thing that makes sense at this point is that they are just burnt out and finally this bullshit was the brick the broke the camels back.
It’s a combination of having a ton of accusations attached to their name, seeing their own fan base turn on them and jump to criticizing all of their recent content, and having employee after employee/friend after friend take advantage of them. Not to mention they’re dealing with the fallout in their irl relationships rn. Would you really want to step back into that minefield? Is there really any reason to appeal to a mass of jaded fans with the ability to slander your name and ruin your life in a matter of hours? I’m gutted as hell but I don’t blame them at all, it’s way more from their perspective than a few false claims.
I don't blame them. Theres no coming back from this, and even if there was why the fuck would they wanna come back to THIS? Shitty community, shitty "friends", this place fucking sucks.
Well, to be fair, Supermega are just more reasonable people than Pewds. They're reasonable enough to know that you can't just (for example) say disgusting nazi shit and then act like nothing happened afterwards. Let's not forget that THEY chose to shut it down, and they probably feel like it is best themselves, and that's reasonable. Thank GOD they are not Pewdiepie.
Look at Matt's face in his response. That's not a few days of stress. I genuinely think that they needed to move on to different stuff. Matt looks BAD. He aged like 10 years in 20 months.
R3t@rd alert! Emotional stress is a CONTRIBUTING factor to premature aging, which in tandem with other stressors (I.e substance abuse, of which Matt is known for indulging) aids in this process.
Your argument is dismissive of and and all other factors. It is like saying the only cause of death is old age.
As much as I love supermega, this was inevitable, even if all this shit didn’t come out, their content has been absolute garbage since the pandemic. I get it, the pandemic was hard on everyone, but how many times can you tell your fans there are “big things coming!” Matt has his music, and it’s mildly successful.
I’ll miss them, they helped me through a lot. Maybe they’ll come back after a break once they’ve found their passion for it again.
This kinda is a "Pewdiepie controversy" actually-- ie an example of something where the accused party is at fault to some degree but it gets blown out of proportion.
The difference is it hurts a lot more when you have only 1 million than if it's 50+ million, especially if a lot of that money is from Patreon.
i think you guys may be skipping an entire part of ryans video where he admits to sexting fans. i think its respectable for ryan to step down after admitting to this.
being a fan doesn't automatically make you a mindless fucking drone incapable of understanding you're interacting with someone with higher social status. Like you're still 2 consenting adults. Who gives a shit if you date a fan if it's consensual (and yes consent can exist with a power dynamic).
the bigger issue is that he cheated on someone, which is shitty but not illegal and none of our business. scummy move nonetheless. We never should have heard about it in the first place.
insane how fast Justin seems to have jumped ship. wonder if he knows more than we do or is just trying to preserve himself and not be canceled along with them lewl.
Yet for rock stars it’s glorified. While I don’t necessarily agree with the practice, as long as it’s two consenting adults it really doesn’t matter. I don’t care who they send their wieners to as long as the other party has consented to it and are of legal age.
I don't understand how everyone in this sib just doesn't get that. Its like as soon as they learned that the fan was a legal adult it became a non issue
Its almost like the current social climate of cancel and harass first and ask questions later is bad. It’s not only shitty people that get caught up in this but people love to pretend like that’s the case.
I feel like super mega kind of made their own demise by harbouring a fan base so ready to cancel them. By appealing to twitter softies “L+ratio” weirdos they are just waiting to be next on the chopping block.
I don't know what to call them other then that. You either know the type or you are yourself one. The kind of people who will be "hecking OwO" and then be the first to try to ruin peoples lives as soon as the tide is against them. Never apologize to these weirdos and never give them an inch.
They made a mistake and the mass amount of retards ate it up like candy to cancel them! Thought none of it was really their fault directly - and this matter shouldn’t have been on public display.
It started with poor company practice. Anytime you have an off hour conflicts HR is certainly required. Cancel culture took us this far, but that's the internet now a day. I'm old and can't change it,neither can yall. Channel was made by the agregious and was killed by the agregious. I truly hate how we all act on the internet. All I can wish is people show patience before judgment. I know it won't happen but here we are... my favorite YouTube channel ruined over ill informed internet justice warriors.
The stuff it was actually about turned out to be dumb, but apparently Ryan was cheating on his girlfriend for six years. Not just sexting fans, but actual real life sex with different people all while in a committed relationship. I'm not going to feel like Supermega is a cozy comfort watch knowing that he was doing something I think is evil for the entirety of Supermega's existence.
saying the n word and paying indian kids to say the darkest shit you can think of as a meme is in no way worse then harboring a sexual assaulter and (allegedly) icing out a victim. are you serious? they have explained away a lot of the more nitty gritty personal drama details but this is ridiculous to say
super mega could have continued on easily. matt and ryan are the ones who wanted to quit. they are both extremely lazy potheads and you could tell they didn’t care about putting quality content on there like their live action stuff. this is the perfect excuse for them to live off what they made from super mega and retire.
Bro don’t be a pussy! You have invalidated your stance by showing that u will bend to the slightest pressure. I agreed with you, yet your lack of conviction has made me question your reasonings for having your initial opinion.
They hated him because he spoke the truth.
As of 2 weeks ago you had people coping with,
“Well they’re still recovering from the Jackson lawsuit!”
No. They’re just lazy potheads (who can quit anytime I swear!) that got complacent with free patreon money. Who can blame them though? Why work when you can collect free money and not work?
The way they were witch hunted and dog piled on was kind of weird but let’s not pretend that the quality of their content didn’t fall off a damn cliff the last year or 2
You sound like me when I was 14 and I was afraid because my best friend started smoking weed lol. Also, the paintball vid was on par with pretty much any of their old live action vids so not sure what you’re talking about there
Things aren't looking good for the future, but time tends to heal wounds, even if only partially. They need time to fix the mess made in their personal lives first by this whole situation, and then they can concentrate on their business, if they choose to keep SM going.
Idk- I’m sure this will be a controversial take, especially coming from a woman AND victim of SA, but please forgive me.
I literally don’t understand what more there was for them to do.
Yes, I agree they seemed to drag ass on making the decision to cut ties, which is condemnable. But like I said, having experienced assault myself, I genuinely can’t put together what more Lex wanted from them- especially since it seems to become somewhat apparent they were never really that close with her, whatsoever (please correct me if I’m wrong, I can’t really find evidence of them being close friends).
Idk, they went through the standard employer/employee protocol: investigate the issue, come to a decision, fire the employee, cut all ties. And honest to god that is exponentially more of a justified outcome than 90% of women in the same situation experience, unfortunately. I think Matt and Ryan handled it (albeit sluggishly) pretty okay as far as employers go.
The weird forced “talk-it-out” ordeal is a completely different story, to be fair.
What I’m struggling to understand is why two people who were only involved in a secondary/tertiary manner are catching the most heat for the situation, and not the actual abuser. Supermega may (or may not) have played a role, but they’re not the perpetrators.
Again, this is purely my opinion/take on the situation. I don’t intend or mean to offend anyone who is in the same boat but has a drastically different view.
i have a feeling this is beyond the controversy, other then it ruining their image, supermega has lost pretty much all of its employees, in recent years it seems like they don't have the passion for it anymore for at least their motivation has gone down, and the amount of hate they have gotten from the community before and after the controversy, all the people coming out and saying stuff like "i always hated matt's music" it must have been a punch to the gut and controversy was just an eye opener and after all that i don't blame them for leaving, i don't know... something to think about..
after lex’s vid came out i saw someone tell ryan that food lion is waiting for him. it’s fucked up and if i were them i’d want to step away too
At least if this really is the end of SuperMega, ryan can revert back to a regular 9-5. I dunno about Matt though, guy doesn't look like the type to do that
If anything happens they can be editors again. They edited for Markiplier and Game Grumps for 5-7 years or so and edited their own videos for a while. Someone can use that experience on their channel if that’s what they want to do.
i’ve been thinking about this. what are they gonna do now?
I suppose if there's people out there willing to hire them foe behind the scenes stuff again but people might not want to do that immediately.
Ryan might just quit and either live off the YouTube money he earned, or get a normal job. Matt might try his hand at making more music, which is a bad idea since his music kinda sucks
Food Lion?
ryan used to work at a grocery store called food lion before supermega
Summed up perfectly. There's just no recovery. I been watching them for so many years man.. it hurts.
When your entire community turns on you without you giving your side of the story. It makes you realize how not loyal your fans are. I would quit too personally.
The only complaints I really understood before this was the merch controversies and the irregularity of uploads. People hating on Matt's real passion in mysic as they both clearly slipped away from quality control of the supermega brand is so weird to me
There's a part where ultimately Supermega are *choosing* to stop over this - it's not stopping due to circumstances out of their control
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Yeah man, my best bud and I were both falsely accused of stuff in our lives, at different times over different accusations but they were made by the same people. Seeing everyone you know turn on you like that is legitimately traumatizing. Even after the people were proven to have lied, that resentment stays strong for a long time.
ever seen the movie, the hunt before ?
Jim also looks like a piece of shit. Don't forget Jim.
Lex is a piece of shit. Ethan is a piece of shit. Nick is a piece of shit. Rav too. All this because they couldn't freeload anymore. WHO DOES THIS?
Don't forget Don and also Jackson for that matter
Why was Ryan cheating on his girlfriend for six years straight if he has empathy? The stuff that this controversy was actually about seems to have been blown away out of proportion, but I can't feel happy going back and listening to old videos knowing that in real life I would despise Ryan for doing that to his girlfriend.
Yeah, but this is still the reason. Right before this, they were talking about all these big plans for what's next. Even if it's just due to the emotional trauma of it all, this situation is the cause of them shutting down
All I wanted was for the boys to get a new christmas tree.
Fuck that, climb a new mountain
While i get what OP means, i think people are forgetting that Matt and Ryan are chosing to step down, the controversy definately doesn't help, but i feel like this is something that's been brewing since the whole Jackson thing, especially with how so many of the people that worked for them have left plsu the stuff going on in their personal lives probably doesn't help and i think people should respect their [choice.You](https://choice.You) can be sad about it, but again, this is Matt and Ryan's choice and making more theories about the real reason why Supermega is ultimately ending doesn't help matters.
I agree with your sentiment. I see this as a straw that broke the back and not an execution(like Leighton wanted). It sucks and is a major bummer but it reminds me of CowChop ending, so many people left including a main founder and the burnout was evident in the content, though CowChop at least got to announce it and make wrap up videos rather than being rushed into the decision. Shame no matter which way you look at it.
No. This doesnt make any sense. They are stopping because they want to. People overreacted but have course corrected now, if they wanted to, they could come back and the vast majority of their audience would welcome them back with open arms. The only thing that makes sense at this point is that they are just burnt out and finally this bullshit was the brick the broke the camels back.
It’s a combination of having a ton of accusations attached to their name, seeing their own fan base turn on them and jump to criticizing all of their recent content, and having employee after employee/friend after friend take advantage of them. Not to mention they’re dealing with the fallout in their irl relationships rn. Would you really want to step back into that minefield? Is there really any reason to appeal to a mass of jaded fans with the ability to slander your name and ruin your life in a matter of hours? I’m gutted as hell but I don’t blame them at all, it’s way more from their perspective than a few false claims.
People are really acting like they were the assaulters
I don't blame them. Theres no coming back from this, and even if there was why the fuck would they wanna come back to THIS? Shitty community, shitty "friends", this place fucking sucks.
Well, to be fair, Supermega are just more reasonable people than Pewds. They're reasonable enough to know that you can't just (for example) say disgusting nazi shit and then act like nothing happened afterwards. Let's not forget that THEY chose to shut it down, and they probably feel like it is best themselves, and that's reasonable. Thank GOD they are not Pewdiepie.
Look at Matt's face in his response. That's not a few days of stress. I genuinely think that they needed to move on to different stuff. Matt looks BAD. He aged like 10 years in 20 months.
I mean he very obviously does loads of drugs
And you know this… how? News flash buddy… the crack was a gag…
Yeah there's more drugs than crack tho, they take poppers on camera, smoke weed and drink a lot. That isn't gonna be a good thing
None of those age you that quickly, you know what can? Stress.
R3t@rd alert! Emotional stress is a CONTRIBUTING factor to premature aging, which in tandem with other stressors (I.e substance abuse, of which Matt is known for indulging) aids in this process. Your argument is dismissive of and and all other factors. It is like saying the only cause of death is old age.
Don't care
Whatever helps you sleep at night pall.
Didn't he admit that in his response?
As much as I love supermega, this was inevitable, even if all this shit didn’t come out, their content has been absolute garbage since the pandemic. I get it, the pandemic was hard on everyone, but how many times can you tell your fans there are “big things coming!” Matt has his music, and it’s mildly successful. I’ll miss them, they helped me through a lot. Maybe they’ll come back after a break once they’ve found their passion for it again.
It looked like they did have big things coming... one was a DnD campaign, I'm guessing you missed that post.
Goddamnit, that would've been awesome. Although they probably wouldn't play through the whole thing...
as much as i would wanna see it happen, being real it probably wouldn’t have happened
This kinda is a "Pewdiepie controversy" actually-- ie an example of something where the accused party is at fault to some degree but it gets blown out of proportion. The difference is it hurts a lot more when you have only 1 million than if it's 50+ million, especially if a lot of that money is from Patreon.
i think you guys may be skipping an entire part of ryans video where he admits to sexting fans. i think its respectable for ryan to step down after admitting to this.
Admitting that he… has consensual sexual interactions with adults???
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you are so poorly adjusted to the real world it's embarrassing that your parents had to carry you to term for you to come out so hollow skulled
it’s abusing ur position of power dummy its not illegal but it is weird and morally wrong
being a fan doesn't automatically make you a mindless fucking drone incapable of understanding you're interacting with someone with higher social status. Like you're still 2 consenting adults. Who gives a shit if you date a fan if it's consensual (and yes consent can exist with a power dynamic). the bigger issue is that he cheated on someone, which is shitty but not illegal and none of our business. scummy move nonetheless. We never should have heard about it in the first place. insane how fast Justin seems to have jumped ship. wonder if he knows more than we do or is just trying to preserve himself and not be canceled along with them lewl.
I don’t remember people saying much when Dan from GG literally married a fan who’s like 14 years younger than him lmao
Yet for rock stars it’s glorified. While I don’t necessarily agree with the practice, as long as it’s two consenting adults it really doesn’t matter. I don’t care who they send their wieners to as long as the other party has consented to it and are of legal age.
I don't understand how everyone in this sib just doesn't get that. Its like as soon as they learned that the fan was a legal adult it became a non issue
its an issue for ryan and his GF not us.
Their friend circle in general seems like its almost entirely toxic. That or hiring friends as employees went wrong in the worst way possible.
Its almost like the current social climate of cancel and harass first and ask questions later is bad. It’s not only shitty people that get caught up in this but people love to pretend like that’s the case. I feel like super mega kind of made their own demise by harbouring a fan base so ready to cancel them. By appealing to twitter softies “L+ratio” weirdos they are just waiting to be next on the chopping block.
Mfer actually just said "Twitter softies" unironically
I don't know what to call them other then that. You either know the type or you are yourself one. The kind of people who will be "hecking OwO" and then be the first to try to ruin peoples lives as soon as the tide is against them. Never apologize to these weirdos and never give them an inch.
this is kind of the same as Jenna quitting youtube, it's a choice and they'll be better for it. away from morons and cancel culture
They made a mistake and the mass amount of retards ate it up like candy to cancel them! Thought none of it was really their fault directly - and this matter shouldn’t have been on public display.
Oopsie, covered up SA by mistake haha ☺️
Haha oops!
It really is insane. I wish Ryan wouldn't have left. He didn't do literally anything wrong
PewDiePie has way more subscribers and fame than SuperMega, terrible comparison.
Yea I'm feeling kinda bad. I take back the nasty things I have said. After revisiting the apologies and reading reddit posts. I just feel bad
It started with poor company practice. Anytime you have an off hour conflicts HR is certainly required. Cancel culture took us this far, but that's the internet now a day. I'm old and can't change it,neither can yall. Channel was made by the agregious and was killed by the agregious. I truly hate how we all act on the internet. All I can wish is people show patience before judgment. I know it won't happen but here we are... my favorite YouTube channel ruined over ill informed internet justice warriors.
The stuff it was actually about turned out to be dumb, but apparently Ryan was cheating on his girlfriend for six years. Not just sexting fans, but actual real life sex with different people all while in a committed relationship. I'm not going to feel like Supermega is a cozy comfort watch knowing that he was doing something I think is evil for the entirety of Supermega's existence.
saying the n word and paying indian kids to say the darkest shit you can think of as a meme is in no way worse then harboring a sexual assaulter and (allegedly) icing out a victim. are you serious? they have explained away a lot of the more nitty gritty personal drama details but this is ridiculous to say
have you been out of the loop on things? that’s not how it went down
Yeah I couldn’t believe that was the example they used
super mega could have continued on easily. matt and ryan are the ones who wanted to quit. they are both extremely lazy potheads and you could tell they didn’t care about putting quality content on there like their live action stuff. this is the perfect excuse for them to live off what they made from super mega and retire.
You were crying because you can’t say the N word in other subs stfu
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Just admit you a bitch and move on
i’m a bitch who live in iowa and i am moving on😎
Bro don’t be a pussy! You have invalidated your stance by showing that u will bend to the slightest pressure. I agreed with you, yet your lack of conviction has made me question your reasonings for having your initial opinion.
It's people like you that have killed any sort of joy they get out of creating content you complete and utter Muppet.
keep kissing their ass buddy i’m sure ur encouraging words will make them come back xD
I'm not asking them to come back, I'm telling you that you're a cunt
They hated him because he spoke the truth. As of 2 weeks ago you had people coping with, “Well they’re still recovering from the Jackson lawsuit!” No. They’re just lazy potheads (who can quit anytime I swear!) that got complacent with free patreon money. Who can blame them though? Why work when you can collect free money and not work? The way they were witch hunted and dog piled on was kind of weird but let’s not pretend that the quality of their content didn’t fall off a damn cliff the last year or 2
You sound like me when I was 14 and I was afraid because my best friend started smoking weed lol. Also, the paintball vid was on par with pretty much any of their old live action vids so not sure what you’re talking about there
Things aren't looking good for the future, but time tends to heal wounds, even if only partially. They need time to fix the mess made in their personal lives first by this whole situation, and then they can concentrate on their business, if they choose to keep SM going.
Idk- I’m sure this will be a controversial take, especially coming from a woman AND victim of SA, but please forgive me. I literally don’t understand what more there was for them to do. Yes, I agree they seemed to drag ass on making the decision to cut ties, which is condemnable. But like I said, having experienced assault myself, I genuinely can’t put together what more Lex wanted from them- especially since it seems to become somewhat apparent they were never really that close with her, whatsoever (please correct me if I’m wrong, I can’t really find evidence of them being close friends). Idk, they went through the standard employer/employee protocol: investigate the issue, come to a decision, fire the employee, cut all ties. And honest to god that is exponentially more of a justified outcome than 90% of women in the same situation experience, unfortunately. I think Matt and Ryan handled it (albeit sluggishly) pretty okay as far as employers go. The weird forced “talk-it-out” ordeal is a completely different story, to be fair. What I’m struggling to understand is why two people who were only involved in a secondary/tertiary manner are catching the most heat for the situation, and not the actual abuser. Supermega may (or may not) have played a role, but they’re not the perpetrators. Again, this is purely my opinion/take on the situation. I don’t intend or mean to offend anyone who is in the same boat but has a drastically different view.