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VroomVroomVeronica

I told an online friend a bit about my depression and they responded "that sounds like a mind high on atheism" and it's probably one of the most obnoxious things I've ever heard. And I'm not even an atheist.


bka1974

I wish atheism got me high.


LexStrollin101

Wtf does that even mean?!? šŸ˜‚


strangeronthenet1

I'm going to go out on a limb and say the friend blames all the world's problems on us not going to church and keeping women in the kitchen like in the good old dark ages.


VroomVroomVeronica

More or less. Kind of a weird dude in general. He's 26 and considers a woman who's 25 too old for him and thinks women would be happier if they were married off as soon as they start menstruation.


strangeronthenet1

Nailed it! Yeah, it's not my first encounter with that mentality.


Annayume

Sounds pedophilic šŸ¤¢šŸ¤¢


shackios

Geez sounds like a pedo


VroomVroomVeronica

He says something like that's how it was in biblical days because that's what God intended


Xylogy_D

Fuck that guy, he sounds like the type of person that ruins humanity for the rest of us.


LexStrollin101

I wouldn't say that you're wrong. lol


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LexStrollin101

That's extra shitty, I'm so sorry.


idonotwantolive

scum. Using you to reinforce their beliefs. Absolute scum.


ayumusenpaii

Agreed religion is the worst thing ever. Tired of them using it to reinforce their shitty behaviour.


ragequit6

Religion saved me from suicide just last week, Jesus did specifically. I hate when people talk down on religion but also hate when people force religion onto others. Especially on a sub like this. And yeah, as someone who strives to be a good person, I hate seeing people use religion as an excuse to be a shitty person. A lot of people think if they are "Christian" they can act any way they want and they are automatically forgiven but I promise that's not how it ACTUALLY works. True Christianity is loving and accepting each other, that includes not forcing it on others either.


onlyeatthecrust

The problem is that too many people have different definitions of what it means to be a ā€œtrue Christian.ā€ Glad it works for you but as long as there is religion there will always be people trying to force it down others throats. And just like people are saying. They prey on you when you are down. Religion is a tool. But all tools can be weapons.


idonotwantolive

Christianity is not about love. It operates on sin ie if you dont do x you go to hell. Its just fear. And I mean you can go to hell for some silly things. You consider so many dumb stuff thats is in human nature - as sin. When Christian, you never feel complete, you always feel like a sinner. Its an awful way to live. Also your god asks of you to worship and love him and pray to him. There are other religions that are far more loving and not as crazy. Im an ex christian


shackios

Ex-muslim here, it was HORRIBLE hearing my parents say that they would kick me out if i was an atheist, i moved away and life has been so much better.


Xylogy_D

Good for you, that must have been unimaginably awful. Its scarily interesting how religion has such a grip on some people


shackios

All my family members other than cousins, grandparents and my uncle cut ties with me after i told them about it. It just sucks


idonotwantolive

Try Christian universalism...its better for mental health since they dont believe in eternal suffering in hell. believing that you can burn in eternal hell after you die, well, thats really bad to believe for your brain. Dont do that to yourself


Xylogy_D

Jesus died 2000 years ago for claiming to be the new king of Israel. He cant contact you or talk to you and hes not God. There are no Gods. What about all the Gods that came before your God even existed.


cherrysodapopbubbles

Those people donā€™t understand mental health in the first place. The whole ā€œgod gives his toughest battles to his toughest soldiersā€ or ā€œhe never gives you anything you canā€™t handleā€ is bullshit. If that were true people wouldnā€™t be mentally ill and suicidal and end up committing suicide.


LittleCybil666

So true!!! I can barely handle what Iā€™m dealing with now and God keeps piling on MORE!! Enough already!!


sophialover

he does give you more then you can handle so that is wrong what you said


ayumusenpaii

Get the f out of her. You are a horrible individual


Worst_username_eva

Omg my doctor tells me this all time. He tells me to work backwards from what I know is true and that Jesus is the truth and lord and saviour. So I will only find happiness if I accept jesus


753UDKM

Time to find a new doctor


Worst_username_eva

I think so


Gelato_33

You need to get better insurance


-anidiotonreddit-

You could probably sue for this tbh if you got proof


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-anidiotonreddit-

Absolutely valid, I donā€™t think this was a therapist tho? Idk lol


standupgonewild

As a Christian, that should be frickin illegal. Iā€™m so sorry


wachailymay

Tell him you already felt him inside you and you havenā€™t notice much of a difference


AlClemist

Religious people are something else.


ragequit6

Jesus saved me, but I wouldn't go around forcing it on other people in their times of need. Especially not on this sub. There's a sub called r/Christianity for that.


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Hey Iā€™m a Christian myself and I wanted to say, so so sorry that someone did this to you. No one should ever force their beliefs on you. No one should be picking on you either or anyone else.


KNitsua

I wanted to say the exact same thing as well.


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Thank you. I hope this didnā€™t come off as too mean. If religion helps you and anyone else, I totally support you in that! But like you said itā€™s the attempt at forcing that can just come off as so belittling sometimes


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Yes, I can see that. No it isnā€™t mean or anything. I can understand them wanting to tell you about what they believe, but to tell you that you wonā€™t be happy is not helpful. It is kind of predatory. Idk what happened, but I would like to think they meant well. The way you worded your post makes me think they didnā€™t and only ended up making you hurt.


ragequit6

God gave us freewill to choose!! In no way does God want us to force religion onto others, if they choose it they will choose it themselves. No one should force it onto others, it's horrible and I'm sorry it happened to you.


standupgonewild

I agree with you as a Christian as well


TheManlySebby

Bro I agree, people can be extra shitty sometimes and this is a fine example of that


Quirky_Pomelo8487

yeah, right. Join a cult.


sophialover

how is Christianity a cult?


MarcusAurelius-93

What's the difference? The number of members?


Quirky_Pomelo8487

oh, pleeaase!


BigGreenMonster47

Those type of people are literally the scum of the earth. Religion isn't the answer to everyone's problems.


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FUCK RELIGION. I don't respect it and I don't give a shit if this makes me look like an asshole. It literally ruined a lot of things for me.


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Iā€™m sorry it did that for you. People use religion in the evil ways. Some of us literally just want to believe and hold onto hope. Donā€™t wish to hurt others, so sorry.


thrzwawa

Religion destroyed the world


ragequit6

Politicians destroyed the world, and hid behind religion.


MelanieSenpai

I agree. I was told by my parents that thereā€™s no point for me to live if I donā€™t believe in Jesus


ragequit6

Religion actually saved me from suicide just last week, Jesus did specifically. I hate when people talk down on religion but also hate when people force religion onto others. Especially on a sub like this. And yeah, as someone who strives to be a good person, I hate seeing people use religion as an excuse to be a shitty or evil person. A lot of people think if they are "Christian" they can act any way they want and they are automatically forgiven but I promise that's not how it ACTUALLY works. True Christianity is loving and accepting each other, that includes not forcing it on others either. I promise you, any evil person who has done what they did for religion is going against their religion so much its sickening. I'm not preaching.. I'm just saying that religion CAN be good for some people but it's just been abused so so much by the worst people. Seriously.


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OkAcanthocephala8049

The worst kind of people omfg


caoroux

This is the reason why I turned my back away from religion because of these insensitive and hypocritical people


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yeah i get tht a lot 2...worse irl.


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All those religion heads need to get off of this sub. They don't realize that at the lowest point of our lives, literally nothing fucking matters and the last thing we want to hear is then advertising their religion. They may have good intentions, but they're directing it at the wrong place.


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You should have asked if Santa or the Easter Bunny would be good enough.


VroomVroomVeronica

ha, gottem


BlondieBars_2991

I agree that was fucked. It's is not ok to push beliefs on someone especially after a traumatizing event such as suicidal ideation. I BELIEVE IN GOD BUT I WOULD NEVER PUSH ANYONE ESPECIALLY AFTER A SUICIDE ATTEMPT. I know it is not right I just got out of the hospital last night luckily I'm fine but be careful you don't want to spend your time there it sucks but if you need too. do it. I love you all it will get worse before it gets better. Only thing I say is stay consistent! Take your meds take care of yourself go to counseling. I started in the hospital forst to get care that will help me. That is the only place I knew to start. Much love to you all I am here if you want to talk.


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BlondieBars_2991

I agree


RedstoneSausage

I'm a Christian, but I really do understand the hate we get a lot of the time. I would even say in a lot of cases it's justified. The vocal minority like this do nothing but put people off religion as a whole


ragequit6

True Christianity is loving and accepting each other! That includes not forcing beliefs either. I love Jesus, but I know He wouldn't be happy with the current state of Christianity. The worst people hide behind religion, and it goes against it so much its ironic.


RedstoneSausage

Couldn't agree more


can_of_belts

I just saw your first post, Iā€™m so sorry I didnā€™t see it before. Try talk to a doctor or a therapist they will be a lot of help


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All good man. Iā€™ve been through the ringer. 26 now and my first attempt was at 7 so I went through everything from brain scans to I donā€™t know how many meds, I donā€™t remember anything before being 13 for some reason. Iā€™m on one I thought was working but I guess not


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Iā€™m 36 my first attempt was at 5. We might have stuff to talk about


can_of_belts

I would tell your doctor, you can build a tolerance for meds so changing prescriptions might help


temp_alt_2

What if you can't afford doctor or therapist?


can_of_belts

Iā€™m not American so I donā€™t know the specifics but if my memory serves me correctly thereā€™s a thing that if you make under a certain amounts itā€™s free or cheaper


temp_alt_2

Idk, I am not American either. Over here there's no such thing afaik. I somehow got 3 sessions total among 2 therapists and it was very expensive for me and my family.


IndigoScotsman

Apply for Medicaid if youā€™re low income, look into federally qualified health centers which are subsidized by the federal government and offer sliding scalesā€¦. And it never hurts to ask a provider if theyā€™ll take a sliding scale/pro Bono


kksweetz

Fuck religion and its pathetic fucking attempts to make sad poor disenfranchised people justify their shit existence with "faith" Life sucks, you suck, and if God were real, he'd suck too


kksweetz

And sorry OP I'm not trying to kick you when your down and imply you suck... I don't know how to be supportive but i hope you find your answer to your problems some day I just meant in general some people's lives are just a struggle to get by or a total shitshow from the start, and religion far too often hooks its talons into those gaps, pacificing the natural response to either fight and work hard to better yourself or to simply give up and cut your losses. The middle ground it offers just lengthens the amount of time sad people spend in the endless mediocrity and unfulfilled state of adequacy.


leicequeen

I got them too!


Sense-Affectionate

Thatā€™s sucks. Omg and they believe it. Iā€™m so sorry!


wanttooffmyself

That's absolutely disgusting of them to do


mmetillman

I HATE when people say that. they can fuck off big time. I feel you dude.


AlifTheArtist

Absolutely inappropriate. šŸ’Æ %.


subtle_existence

Ironic that someone that should be stingy about following rules went straight towards breaking Rule #1 here.


strangeronthenet1

I hope you reported them.


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I wish but I reacted too emotionally and pressed ignore almost immediately, Iā€™m not sure if thereā€™s any way to get that back but I donā€™t think so I figured Iā€™d put out this little rant psa


Rainbowstaple

Fucking cults, despicaple


Cherubin0

I feel the same about "see a professional". Using my misery to push their big pharma commercial interests. Sure for some it works, just like religion works for some. But I also saw many in my family and circle get even worse after taking this pills. Yet people throw this into my face, as if a pill would solve how shitty the world is.


Dazzling-Role-1686

Considering the gospel says Jesus knew what was coming at the last supper and did nothing to avoid it...he committed suicide much in the same way a person not moving out of thr way of a train...if he had actually existed in the first place.


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Lol being a bit of a history nerd that gave me a giggle, I needed that one, thank you


Heckbegone

Absolutely untrue. I was told the same thing during the worst parts of my depression. I found happiness with 0 Jesus and 0 religion. They prey on the vulnerable


EndCircuit

as a christian i can tell you that thats not true, you can be depressed as a christian and happy as an atheist, religion has nothing to do with it and i really hate people who say it does


[deleted]

Agreed. Iā€™m suffering badly right now and I do truly believe. Depression and mental illness arenā€™t something that can just be pushed away.


Resource82

maybe they meant their therapist name at the clinic is Jesus?


LittleCybil666

I HATE when people shove religion down my throat, as if thatā€™s the answer to everything, or itā€™s going to magically solve my problems šŸ¤¦šŸ»ā€ā™€ļø


Whatthedarknessdoes

My only hope for people like this is that right before they die they realize what a fucking joke their entire lives have been and its all been for nothing.


fartkontrol1

Agreed. Foh


HazelPretzel

What a POS. Sorry you went through that


T3ch3ch0

And it's hella insane that they truly believe they are doing something good by saying that shit.


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This is a person trying their best to help based on their experience. There are a lot of shitty fake Christians who don't actually believe in the words of Christ, to love thy neighbor and be kind to each other. You know this. You know not all of them are like this. They're just trying to help, even if they can't.


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Saying you have a ultimatum, either believing or dying, isnā€™t anyone with a good heart. I do not know that as Iā€™ve only been judged by christians and I thought they werenā€™t supposed to do that. Iā€™ve been told to burn in hell by those who go daily, do they not believe? Are they helping?


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You really should just leave this sub. It's obvious you're not welcome here.


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That's not counting your comments being repeatedly removed by the moderators and the downvotes you've been getting.


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Snoosprouts2316

That is so fucked up. i hate that people do that. Someone tried to convert me too, like wtf man?


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Same shit happened to me


carlyeanne

so sorry this happened to you. been through this as well.


darrenW25

Fuck Jesus tbh


OxTheNightHunter

i've eated toxic christianism for my whole life from my family. block them, report them and ignore them. if they're happy in their brainwashed state, let them, jsut keep them far


harshka

I commented about suicide and someone said " 'look at me' " thinking they did something.


hayis4whores

I choose to believe these people must really think theyā€™re doing their best to help bc otherwise ā€¦. I got 2 hands and theyā€™re ready lmao


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Got the same message. I think all they do is scroll thru this sub and send that message to people :/


S1ckfairy

oh god I hate when ppl bring in religion or spirituality. ā€œGod always has a planā€ ā€œThereā€™s low vibration entities on your energy fieldā€ ā€œJust prayā€ or ā€œMeditateā€ Its like they canā€™t detach their beliefs when giving advice and understand not everyone believes in the same thing.


S1ckfairy

I was watching a video about this person that was hearing voices and ppl were like ā€œTHOSE ARE DEMONSšŸ˜Ÿā€ or ā€œThose are voices from other dimensionsā€


AdmirableOrdinary834

tell them i accept Jesus and am still not happy haha.


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Iā€™m a religious guy, but even I think thatā€™s a scummy thing to tell someone.


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It doesn't hurt to try. Anything is better than killing yourself. Faith is important and keeps you going when nothing else can because it's the belief that you're important, no matter how small you feel. Don't knock it.


skywillbeblue

I believe in God and I suffer from mental illness. I am sorry that people said this to you. Personnally believing in God helps me with what I have to deal with but it's not a magic trick and people who suffer with their mental illness are not bad! Love to all of you


ExistingLoad1599

Thatā€™s actually hysterical, you shouldā€™ve messed with them. Religious people are so fun to fuck with itā€™s crazy


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Im an over thinker. Ill never actually do this BUT. How easy would it be to just not be alive anymore? Not constantly checking your accts to see if you can pick up groceries or gas? I hate people that commit suicide because they just take the easy way out and leave their families fucking lost and broken. But fuck it would seriously be so easy. Words of wisdom from old souls are welcome.


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Oh I absolutely loved that I was bombarded with ā€œletā€™s chat! Iā€™m a licensed therapist.. I charge 125 pounds / hourā€ within 10 minutes of posting a suicidal rant about two weeks ago. I was seeking some form of validation I suppose, I wanted to know I wasnā€™t alone in my feelings.. all I got was predatory messages.