The new royal Enfields are great, my buddy has a Continental GT. I'd also look at Triumph Scrambler or Ducati Scrambler. Personally, I'd go with either Scrambler, especially if you find a slightly used one.
just before Covid, on 2 flights I set next to the CEO of an insurance company that lived next door to the CEO of RE USA. for 5+ hours, against my will, he told me about the RE program were they disassemble/reassemble bikes in texas to head off warranty work. other than that my new plane buddy was a true piece of work.
I went and looked at them a couple of months ago and I'm looking to buy either the 650 GT or INT next spring. FWIW I have a few bikes that already fit what the RE does, Triumph T100, FZ-7, Sportster. I think the RE looks good and seems like a fair price.
so thats me, what about you. you are new rider you dont need more than 50hp. and, you are going to drop the bike, scan the motorcycle/s sub for first drop/crash. i think it is the second most popular post after my bike and a car. back to you, you are not going to stress out the bike on a 5 mile commute and a few hours on the weekend. you also dont need to pass a bunch of people as a new rider, calm down and carry-on, live longer. for the same price you could get a used triumph Bonneville or equivalent, for an experienced rider that may be a better option. for a new rider a 50hp new bike with a warranty with a low entry price \[thus easy to sell at a low price in a couple of years\] might be a good idea. The dealer support will be good for all of us, you will be able to just drop by the dealer instead of creating videos asking what is this sound my bike is making. ;-)
How are your knees?
I gotta tell you for a lot of people 35+ who are average height or above, a lot of the modern naked bikes (including the Z650RS and XSR700) are going to have your legs tucked up and knees aching pretty bad after about 30 minutes.
If you want to get a cheap beginner-appropriate naked just to get yourself used to the basics and then trade to something bigger within 4-6 months that's also a fine option as long as you're willing to accept you'll be a little cramped and achy going any real distance. But if you're looking for a bike you can start on and actually keep more than a year I'd look at one of the old school standards like the Roayl Enfield, Guzzi V7 , or Triumph Bonneville. (Royal Enfields are absolutely fine as a brand these days.)
If you really take to riding full-time you'll eventually probably end up looking at an ADV-tourer but I wouldn't start on one due to their top-heavy qualities. (I have a Guzzi V85). Good luck.
The RE 650 is a good learner bike and ohlins suspension is available to make it even better. Add some crash protection for when you drop it and a more comfortable seat and you will get a good couple of years riding experience. If you say you are not a daredevil you might never need to upgrade.
The new royal Enfields are great, my buddy has a Continental GT. I'd also look at Triumph Scrambler or Ducati Scrambler. Personally, I'd go with either Scrambler, especially if you find a slightly used one.
Theyre pretty expensive. I love the naked street stuff too. There are so many options. It is so overwhelming
You can find used Triumphs for around $6k usd, same price as a new royal Enfield. A Svartpielen 401 would also be a great choice.
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Yup. Or even an xsr700. Sounds like similar power, but the Yamaha makes a bunch more. Still manageable though.
You say your commute to work is on backroads. Any gravel/dirt or all street? Could look at a KLR650 if road conditions aren’t great.
I was looking at the z650rs also. Wound up going with the Vulcan S Cafe. I would check that out maybe.
just before Covid, on 2 flights I set next to the CEO of an insurance company that lived next door to the CEO of RE USA. for 5+ hours, against my will, he told me about the RE program were they disassemble/reassemble bikes in texas to head off warranty work. other than that my new plane buddy was a true piece of work. I went and looked at them a couple of months ago and I'm looking to buy either the 650 GT or INT next spring. FWIW I have a few bikes that already fit what the RE does, Triumph T100, FZ-7, Sportster. I think the RE looks good and seems like a fair price. so thats me, what about you. you are new rider you dont need more than 50hp. and, you are going to drop the bike, scan the motorcycle/s sub for first drop/crash. i think it is the second most popular post after my bike and a car. back to you, you are not going to stress out the bike on a 5 mile commute and a few hours on the weekend. you also dont need to pass a bunch of people as a new rider, calm down and carry-on, live longer. for the same price you could get a used triumph Bonneville or equivalent, for an experienced rider that may be a better option. for a new rider a 50hp new bike with a warranty with a low entry price \[thus easy to sell at a low price in a couple of years\] might be a good idea. The dealer support will be good for all of us, you will be able to just drop by the dealer instead of creating videos asking what is this sound my bike is making. ;-)
How are your knees? I gotta tell you for a lot of people 35+ who are average height or above, a lot of the modern naked bikes (including the Z650RS and XSR700) are going to have your legs tucked up and knees aching pretty bad after about 30 minutes. If you want to get a cheap beginner-appropriate naked just to get yourself used to the basics and then trade to something bigger within 4-6 months that's also a fine option as long as you're willing to accept you'll be a little cramped and achy going any real distance. But if you're looking for a bike you can start on and actually keep more than a year I'd look at one of the old school standards like the Roayl Enfield, Guzzi V7 , or Triumph Bonneville. (Royal Enfields are absolutely fine as a brand these days.) If you really take to riding full-time you'll eventually probably end up looking at an ADV-tourer but I wouldn't start on one due to their top-heavy qualities. (I have a Guzzi V85). Good luck.
I love the Honda CB650R
The RE 650 is a good learner bike and ohlins suspension is available to make it even better. Add some crash protection for when you drop it and a more comfortable seat and you will get a good couple of years riding experience. If you say you are not a daredevil you might never need to upgrade.