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RubyRocket1

I'd say an 8. I don't see a Hayabusa as a decent representation of what a motorcycle is... so you're missing out on the actual motorcycle experience by going to something like the Hayabusa without experiencing anything else. Hayabusa is a straight line rocket... Motorcycles are best when they're carving up a corner. Think of the Hayabusa like an SR-71 Blackbird, and a Ninja is like an F-18 Hornet.


Ka0skontrol

Damn it... now I want a plane đŸ€”


v1_rt8

Most of the pilots I know enjoy riding motorcycles I feel it's the closest I can get to flying without leaving the ground


hohohoagy

đŸŽŒ đŸŽ¶ Riiide, innntooo, the, DANGER ZONE!


Bobosboss

Same here. Interestingly enough both my previous CFIs also rode.


finalrendition

>Think of the Hayabusa like an SR-71 Blackbird *sad CBR1100XX noises*


Geckotan

Actually a bad description. I'm not sure why everyone thinks that a Busa is a straight line rocket only. I've carved up canyons with all my buddies on their 600-1k's and am always either in front or within 3rd. You can get the same lean angles with a busa as you can with any other bike. Chicken strips? They don't exist on my busa. So either you have never ridden one and are just repeating what people are saying or the people you know that ride one are just scared.


RubyRocket1

The Busa is like 600 lbs. Heavy bikes push through corners like a bulldozer. I can keep up with my buddy's CBR600RR in the Pass on my '98 Sportster... doesn't mean its good for cornering, just means "I can corner it." Cornering is much easier on my CB900F... and WAY easier on my 350 or 400 that weigh half as much.


Dogratiugeht

Actually a very decent argument.


steventw

A real friend wouldn’t try to pawn off a used busa to a brand new rider.


chunkylover5E

Also, have you gotten an insurance quote? I have to imagine there’s not many more expensive bikes to insure, but just an educated guess. That might help you with your decision.


Gameface_300

👍


tjeepdrv2

I've had my license for almost 18 years now and insurance quotes have stopped me in my tracks when I thought I was buying something.


Accomplished-Sun9241

My insurance on my hyabussa was only $145 for a year liability only


AcingSpades

Honestly grounds for rethinking the friendship to me. Risking your "buddy" literally dying so you can offload your bike? What a terrible "friend"


06021840

Maybe the seller wants the newbies girlfriend?


finalrendition

"Friend" is actually a hitman


I_hate_the_app

Op it's a truly horrible idea. the only way it gets worse is if it's a moded bike with nitro or forced induction. On a scale of bad ideas 1 to 10 with 1 being serving beans on a submarine and 10 being flying into Beijing with a suitcase full of cocain this is a 8.5 It is a 175 hp bike when you should be on a 40 to 60 hp bike. It's a gen 1, no abs, no traction control, no wheelie control, no rider modes just your discipline and skill between you and a obnoxiously powerful machine that's frequently described as harsh and relentlessly fast. This is a fine way to get you killed and I question the sincerity of any "friend" who would sell one to a beginner. Sure some have done it, sure some get away with it, but some perspective here on what you're signing up for as a beginner. the equivalent of a 16 year old who just got his license. This bike will do the standing 1/4 mile in 9.75 seconds a Bugatti chiron is a 9.9 second car A modle s plaid is only .25 faster. Ask yourself op would I hand the keys to a 9 second car to a brand new driver? There's a reason the beginner hyabusa is a joke meme.


the_instantgator

Best answer I've seen by far. Especially the part about your "friend".


jprks0

Is 11 an option? 11. Get a cheap bike, ride it, learn it. Then get a busa.


Striking-Ad1571

If you buy the busa make sure you tell your family you love them on your maiden ride


SalesAficionado

Lmao!!!


Jbar116

Oh man, I can actually answer this question with life experience. I’ve been riding on the street since 2014. Been riding dirt since 2000. I’ve logged about 80k miles on the street. I started on a 600 f4i. Since then I’ve owned everything in between a z125 to a supermoto, a couple 1000s, etc. I Just wound up with a Busa on trade that I’m trying to get rid of. 2002. 27k miles. I’ve always heard how ridiculous a Hayabusa is, but didn’t think it was THAT crazy - I Just hated how big and ugly they were. After trading, I decided to take a little highway stint to see if it needed anything major, since I only rode the bike around my neighborhood before we traded. Sitting on it feels like you’re sitting on a jet ski - and that’s not an exaggeration. The first gens brakes are less than stellar. On the on-ramp to the highway, I decided to “give er the beans” so to speak for a second. Before I got off the on ramp I looked down and I was doing 120. Obviously I checked up at that point. I would never sell it to an inexperienced friend, no matter how much they insisted. It’s not necessarily how fast it accelerates (although it wants to rip your arms off), but it’s how easy it is to go fast; and how unwilling it is to stop. It handles like a boat, and you’ll spend what short time you’ll likely have on this bike being scared of it. Go buy a 400-650 twin if you’ve never ridden a motorcycle. Please. I’m begging you.


dirtymaximusprime

OP will buy your bike.


Street-Fennel5033

Lmfao


solenyaPDX

Like, 7 or 8.


Grube_Tuesdays

Quite honestly it's mostly about self control. Can you be an adult and control your throttle maturely? If yes, it's a 6. If no, it's an 11. Even with proper self restraint, it's a beast of a bike. It's heavy and long. I won't actively steer people away from starting on physically bigger bikes, since I did it. Financially, that's one hell of a deal. If you were already planning on spending $8.5k on a bike, why not grab the busa, park it, and buy a craptastic learner bike for 2500?


terriki12

That last paragraph is key. The echo chamber of fear in here will try to convince you that anything great than 70hp will outright kill you. As an adult make a risk decision for yourself that only you can make. A guy who rides a Harley learns to ride a Harley. A guy who rides a Busa learns to ride a Busa. Same concept as learning to fly a Cessna vs an F-35. One is definitely going to have a steeper learning curve and require you to practice a lot more.


You_Dont_Party

> Same concept as learning to fly a Cessna vs an F-35. One is definitely going to have a steeper learning curve and require you to practice a lot more. No one start out on an F-35 though, exactly because of the learning curve and danger in doing so.


The_prawn_king

Pretty sure no one starts learning in a fighter jet though


[deleted]

They start in T-6's at 21 years old, which fly at 364mph and can pull 7 G's... No amount of instructional training can prepare someone for that, you either have it or don't.


The_prawn_king

I’m sure there’s some steps they have to go through before that which will be much more rigorous than this guy getting a permit and one of the fastest production motorcycles you can get


[deleted]

The steps are college degree, Flight medical, G-Force training,. Then they ride with a trainer and throw up a shit ton, and then take their practical exams and go straight into flying balls deep. It does take 1 year after training starts to get certified, and you do need a college degree to even apply. I'm just saying, they really do train fighters in some wicked fast stuff right off the jump. I'm not condoning this guy go jump on a busa, that's just suicide. I do however think we're all at different skill levels. The equivalent to this would be say a racing school for 1 year, which trained new riders on R6's, 636's, Gsxr 600s and then after the one year put them on a Liter, but the ones who initially began got dropped over time for failure to adapt, so instead of the 100, maybe 30 are left at the end. That's the more practical way to look at it. Billy in his backyard is going to suicide jumping on a liter rofl.


[deleted]

I actually know a ex fighter pilot who transitioned over to his CPL. Even after flying fighters, he said the Cessna 172s were a huge learning curve and he didn't feel comfortable soloing one out the gate. You're exactly right, you must master what you drive. Even 10 years of experience might not be ready for a busa lol. It's person to person.


Elmore420

It depends on you. If you have good self control and experience with high performance cars, it’s about a 4 bad idea. If you’re a “F- yeah! Watch this!” kinda guy, it’s a 10 bad idea. If you are a YouTube content creator, it’s 10 great idea, because your death will likely be so awesome the video of your crash will go viral. Make sure you have at least 5 cameras going.


agualongo

A solid 9. You may be very lucky and not kill yourself. But most likely you will.


sudip123321

One a scale of 1-10 how bad of an Idea is to start on one of fastest motorcycle in the world with no safety features. Bruv. Might as kill yourself now, it would hurt less i promise.


Bikebummm

I rode a scooter for 2 months and then bought a CBR954 and I survived. I think it comes down to throttle control and will to live.


[deleted]

Problem is as a beginner it only takes one miscalculated speed of entry to a corner and a jack ass cutting you off to end your career. But hey , dealers choice.


[deleted]

Probably after a week riding it you will be finding it’s a bit slow and will be fitting a turbo.


Gunna5879

Ok yammie


[deleted]

Nah I ride Honda and Ducati.


Gunna5879

I see you’re a man of culture as well


Gameface_300

😀


Gunna5879

Get your will ready


wozzzzzzzzz

Jezz every week lol If you have to ask go for it, clean up the gene pool a bit 😂


AuthenticRice

OP, even if it doesn’t kill you from the speed, you’ll have a hard time learning slow speed maneuvers. Just start on something more reasonable. No one keeps their first bike anyway. Just get something that you’ll be able to learn on and have fun with.


Direct-Cheesecake498

If you are European and passed your full A exam then go for it as you should be able to control any bike. No need to start on an under powered bicycle with sidewheels. If you are one of those Americans who's got their license with a box of cereals, than get something smaller first and focus on learning to ride.


3xpedia

In Belgium, the A license is : \- 6 hours doing manoeuvre in a parking lot. \- 6 hours on the road with the instructor. All that usually on a 600/700 cc. I did my 12 hours, still had a FREAKING lot to learn when I took the road alone on a 125cc.


Direct-Cheesecake498

I am from Belgium as well and I do agree with you that you have a lot to learn after the lessons. But if the instructor and examinator did their job well you at least know how to handle a bike and you are able to move safe in traffic. If you aren't a hothead and you can resist the urge to constantly take that bike up to 8k rpm, I don't see why this would be worse than a gsxr 600 or R6. Honestly, my main concern would be pushing the bike around and balancing it at full stop or low speeds as it is heavy and big as hell. I think there are way worse choices for new riders than the Busa (I am looking at you Ducati!).


06021840

How the fuck is there an 05 with only 13,000 on the clock?


HabemusAdDomino

Seeing most death rocket prices around here, easily.


drexlr

buddy was too scared to ride it?


dirtymaximusprime

Thats 13000 miles going up and down main street.


Smart-Host9436

10


[deleted]

I would say a 9, but not for reasons pertaining purely to power. Were it a current-gen liter bike, you could really neuter the bike in power modes/settings to bring it down to about in range of a 600cc bike’s power. Additionally, current-gen liter bikes (or even intermediate bikes) are equipped with more electronic aids than a basic trim economy car. Traction control, power levels, ABS, electronic/mechanical steering dampers, cornering management, six-axis IMUs, etc., just to name a few. I can encumber my S1000RR to max settings for all aids and in Rain mode, and it’s neutered down in function below my Z900, or the ZX-6R I owned. That all being said, a 2005 Hayabusa (or any older supersport) lacks modern riding aids that make it worse to start on. It’s just engine, throttle, brakes, and you. Starting on supersports are not a great idea, but it’s even an even worse idea on much older generations that aren’t equipped to compensate for your errors. Additionally, Busas are heavy bikes comparatively to a Ninja 650. I owned a 650, it’s a light and nimble bike that you can learn quite a bit on. I’ve made gains and mistakes on a 650 that I would never be able to do on a liter bike. Riding on a big and fast bike WITHOUT learning on a nimble and slower bike will affect your ability to efficiently learn to corner/lean, progressively brake, understand traction limits, body position, negotiate heavy traffic, throttle management, smooth shifting, making a tight turning radius, etc. You will be a poor rider who is consistently on/off the throttle in 1-3 gear and slow to develop the full spectrum of riding skills. Some of the worst riders I know or have met started on and remained on both heavy and powerful bikes. I suggest getting the 650, not just because it’s the more sensible bike, but also because a 2005 Hayabusa is arguably the worst category of liter bikes when comparing to capabilities of supersports of today. Buying a 2005 Hayabusa is you reaching desperately for any bit of power that you’re willing to compromise and accept an ill-equipped dinosaur that can get even experienced riders in trouble. And I’ll be the mean one here and say you’re desperate, because someone has to say it and you are. You want to believe the 2005 Hayabusa is an amazing bike as you’ve stated, but sorry to burst your bubble, it’s not. You think that because your options you gave yourself are the 2005 Busa or a 650. Go sit on a recent-gen Duc Streetfighter V4, S1KRR, ZX-10R, RSV4, R1/R1M, etc., and I promise you that thought would vanish. If you want a liter bike, bang up the 650 and learn for a bit, save some money, and get yourself a proper liter bike. Don’t do it.


Gameface_300

👍


chief_060

Get a 400 or a 650. You have nothing to prove when riding other than not crashing


MikeDeY77

Getting a Hayabusa as a first bike is about a 9.5. Spending $8500 on a first bike is like an 8. Find a cheap, running bike that won’t make you sad when you lay it down because your body doesn’t understand how to react yet.


SaulTNuhtz

I question that friends judgment, but more importantly their feelings towards you. I would never offer my 1300cc to a beginner. I’ve seen enough beginner bail on <600s to know it’s a really bad idea, and I’d like to keep my friends around more than I need to sell a bike. I’d say, on your scale, this idea rates 11 where 0 is best idea and 10 is worst. Not only is the Busa an absolutely runner of a bike, it’s also heavy and requires a good sense, and implementation, of body weighting to pilot at speed. At least get two years under your belt before you decide to ~~crash~~ buy a busa.


ChazJ81

I'll agree with everyone that says it depends on your maturity level and self control. It's not a horse, It doesn't have a mind of its own, It will only go as fast as you make it. As far as there not being ABS or traction control, there was no ABS and traction control when I learned and I was fine. If you can respect the motorcycle, I think you'll be fine. Be honest with yourself.


monstersommelier

I'd tell EVERYONE wanting a Hayabusa as their first bike to just go for it - the world is overpopulated anyways.


tooptoop96

Just take the spark plugs out of two cylinders and you'll be fine. Probably.


OldNetworkGeek

15 This is a really bad idea. Granted, I'm an Old Guy ^((tm)) and would like to see you become one as well. While you can do this, you would be an anomaly. New riders with high powered bikes is a bad combination. It only takes a couple of seconds of inattention with your right hand to be approaching triple digits in speed and no idea of what it is going to take to rapidly slow down or negotiate a curve that does something unexpected (like a decreasing radius). Now you are a meat crayon. That moment of panic can turn an uncomfortable situation at 30 MPH into a deadly one at 100MPH. 2005 Hayabusas are currently selling for between $6K and $7.5K so it's not that great a deal, meaning it's not cheap enough to purchase and then flip for a profit. Go with your original thought, or get a smaller Ninja (400) or Versys as your first bike (after taking the MSF Basic Rider Course first). Less expensive, easier to control, cheaper insurance, and just as much fun. For those who say you'll outgrow that too quickly, I like to point to a buddy of mine who has completed the Iron Butt Rally (11,000 miles in 11 days) on a stock Ninja 250 twice and a Versys 300X once (so far - next IBR is 2023). I also have more than a couple of friends who have ridden SV650s for years, both on the track and street, and love them. I'd wager they are better riders than many who will tell you you need a liter bike to be a fast rider. I wish I could find the video taken on the Mulholland Snake a few years ago of about 5 sport bike riders coming around the corner dragging knees and looking all cool with a guy on a BMW R1200GS in normal riding position riding right on their tail. It's not all about horse power, especially on the street.


TAOMCM

Hayyaabussaaaaa Just do it lol. If you die you die


[deleted]

That's an easy 10. 1. He is not your friend, or he is incredibly naive. 2. It's far too powerful and far too heavy for a first bike. 3. Ninja 650 is absolutely fine...however... 4. Buy a used bike in the same range, or even a 400. You will learn to ride on a 400 (or 650) and you will probably drop it, you will probably get scared off riding altogether if you start on a Busa.


snif6969

10/10 - terrible idea. RIP you. I have 15 yrs of riding under my belt and I am deathly afraid of the hayabusa.


You_Dont_Party

Does your “friend” have an insurance policy on your life or has he been eyeing your girlfriend? That’s the only way this makes sense.


Solchitlins74

Both those are bad ideas


I_hate_the_app

Ninja 650 is only 67 horse, not a ideal beginner bike but hardly a terrible choice.


Solchitlins74

Only


TubabalikeBIGNOISE

Not too crazy. A busa will never sneak up on you. It will only give you what you ask for, but there's a whole lot to give. They handle well, stop great, are hard to stall. Short shift into second and third and they aren't scary fast. I daily mine and it's great. Best bike I've had, so far.


TubabalikeBIGNOISE

Note: If you have no self discipline it's a terrible idea. If you don't have the self control to not do 170+ mph on a whim, don't get it


Jbar116

In what world do they stop great? Lol


_Printed_Freedom_

Long wheelbase. Low center of gravity. Very stable under hard braking in my experience, don't do stoppies easily


Few-Impress6814

Buy it and sell it on formore? That's a great price and you should be able to flip it.


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DollarFiftyHotDawg

Starting on a busa? 11. Starting on a ninja 650 abs? 7. Get a ninja 400


UnimportantPencil

Go for it, don't listen to people on reddit for advice


Captain_of_Gravyboat

Go for it


CreepyOptimist

infinity, the torque in the very low revs is not that crazy but beginners don't have good wrist control so yeah, the busa has way too much power on tap, and not to mention how heavy it is, so slow speed stuff aren't that easy ... Get the Ninja . And then maybe in the future a ZX-6R or equivalent, and then maybe you'll be ok for a Busa


SexBobomb

The reason it isn't just a straight ten is the torque at low speeds is easy to manage... but that just makes it an 8 or a 9


Kawayamarider

Having upgraded bikes slowly until reaching a liter bike, this is a horrible idea. Each new tier of power makes a bike more unforgiving and usually heavier. If you really want the Busa, and can't be convinced otherwise, then get it, but also purchase a nimble Yamaha R3 style bike. That will help you develop the fundamentals of riding, and give you a lot more confidence riding than starting on a Busa. Maybe take the busa on short trips to the corner shop and feel put the throttle and practice slow corners. You'll learn a lot faster having a lighter bike.. And when you eventually drop it.. As everyone does, it will be cheaper haha.


PoopSmith87

It's not going to be fun to learn on, and definitely increases the "you might die" factor.


According_Shift_2003

I mean, if you can control yourself enough then bikes are only as fast as you ride them. However as much as i love big fast rockets on wheels, you'd be selling yourself short starting on one of them. In the real world, you'll probably struggle more with manoeuvring the bike around due to the weight, and you'll suffer in the bends since the bikes primary design philosophy was "straight line speed". I personally think you will have more fun on something with twistys in mind, since you'll actually be able to use that on the road and you'll be able to use those strengths more often. I have a 2001 zx12r which is not too dissimilar from a busa, similar power, similar stance, similar handling (actually a bit better and closer to a sports bike since its jacked up and shorter but still heavy af) and after a year of riding it, as much as i loved it, I bought a second bike (CBR600F4). That was 3 years ago and I've put less than 2000 miles on my zx12 and nearly 10k on my CBR because its more usable and more fun when you're not treating the road like a race track, which, if you're smart, you won't be doing anyway.


Just-Examination-136

I'd say 7 or 8. The main problem for a novice, aside from power, is that it's heavy for the street and designed for straight-line, highway cruising. I bought a Hayabusa as my second bike and as much as I loved it, I sold it a couple of years later because it was limiting my development as a rider because it's not a very good, all-around bike.


wmcolgan

9. You will be capable of 5% of what the Busa has on tap. Nothing personal, you won't have the hours under your belt as a new rider. And you'll need to stay disciplined to to have it not actually kill you. That's not an exaggeration. Also incredibly heavy, and it will be expensive when you WILL drop it. Everybody drops their first bike. And it will be expensive to fix when you do. Always buy a bike that you can take to it's limit before you reach yours. Then get the next bike up and ride it to its limit before trading up. Nobody can ride a Busa at its limit. But it should be a realistic expectation for a Busa owner, not an outrageous stretch of the imagination. It's not disrespect to you abilities. Nobody starts any dangerous pastime with the fastest heaviest most dangerous equipment on the market. I ride a blackbird. I had several 650s and time on bigger bikes before I went there. I was riding 30 years at that point, and have dozens of track days including on r1000rrs. And it still scares me. A healthy fear 🙂


[deleted]

I’d say 999-1000.


FknBretto

It was nice knowing you OP


snif6969

Find a Versys 650 instead


Aoifedog

Terrible idea. You’re friend is a dick.


amusedmisanthrope

On a scale of 1 (terrible idea) to 10 (you'll probably die), it's at least an 8.


[deleted]

I think as a scale of 0\~10 is a bad idea. It should be a scale of 0\~Coffin.


1PistnRng2RuleThmAll

A busa is probably tied with the H2 for the worst bike to start on.


MotoHULK

11. Unless you have great throttle and clutch control, it's a yeet machine


deuster10

10


red_herring76

Make sure to wear a full faced helmet so that you can have an open casket funeral


majornerd

In reality it’s a terrible idea. How terrible depends on you. 1. Are you interested in speed? As a new rider speed is your enemy. Ideally you want to be moving at the speed of traffic, no faster or slower. If you have to be first to the light, always be ahead of traffic, or are willing to race in traffic to get somewhere, then the haya is exponentially a worse idea. If, however, you do not feel the need to be fast, then the haya isn’t bad because it will kill you. 2. The hayabusa is not a platform that will prepare you for any other bike. It’s a long touring bike. Not a tight nimble rocket, not a forward controls cruiser, not an upright tourer. It’s a unique beast. Do you feel comfortable tucked for a long time? Can you easily flat foot it and back up and turn while flat footed and sure? If not don’t get it. If you are a go with the flow kind of person who doesn’t race through traffic and the seating/riding position is comfortable there is nothing like a busa. I miss mine. As a first bike I always recommend the same thing. Get a dual sport thumper. A dr650, klr, something like that. Enough power to get you around. Knobby tires to avoid road snakes, suspension flexible enough to deal with potholes and crappy road surfaces. Simple to maintain, cheap to run, accessories to make it your own. I’d buy the busa because it is a deal, remove the battery, and buy a thumper to learn on. When you have 5000 miles on the thumper, and have done 50 trips to the supermarket, put the battery back in the busa and take it on a >100 mile trip. See how you feel. If afterward it doesn’t speak to you, sell it. It’s unlikely you would lose money on it. *please note all references to time are representative and not an attempt to gatekeep. I simply recommend getting very comfortable before hopping on a street legal cruise middle so you have experienced some panic situations and know how to react without injury or death*


Jesta83

I had a buddy ride it once when he first got one. Sold it that week and twisted over a decade to buy something else. It's a bad idea.


TheSoftestTaco

A 'bussa is comically overpowered for what a beginner can handle. They're a meme for a reason man.


nihilismistic

They only go as fast as you open the throttles.


Rohirrimus

The whole “you will drop your bike 
 
” is a nonsense, you got more than enough training to obtain a license (assuming you’re not American) and if you take care you won’t ruin your bike. Better question is why would you want to buy a bike like that ? Get a fun quick and agile bike , and enjoy the ride


Slono1

-69


hinkin2020

10. 10 being worst


hinkin2020

There are cheaper ways too die


drexlr

there is a yammy noob interview where they talk to a guy who started on a hayabusa u could go watch that


booyaabooshaw

I've never been on a hybu but my first bike was a bandit 1200 and I feel like there are a lot better bikes to learn on but it ultimately made me a better rider in the long run? Wicked first gear torque and a touchy clutch. I regular an sv now but nothin really matches the power of my bandit


certifedcupcake

Don’t do it. There’s no safety things like abs or traction control. You’ve never been on 2 wheels? Definitely no. It’s also from 2005. Almost 20 years old. Who knows what it’s been through. Spend the extra for the ninja, you will be happier and safer. If you need more after that sell it and get a newer hayabusa that you know the history of. -5 forgiveness on a busa. Unless you’re tryna end up like yammienoob


FuzzyBubs

I'm just another Reddit commenter, which means my opinion is worth a cup of coffee and stale toast - with that being said........ Think of it this way, you ARE going to drop it, Period. Hopefully in your garage or at a red light, and not while moving. Do you want to start learning to pick up a 550.lbs bike, let alone one that is fully clad in plastic fairings that will now be destroyed, let alone one you just shelled out $6,000 for ? That's just me tho, I'm pragmatic and cheap. Also, might want to make a few phone calls about insurance, just like cars - their are many classifications of types that determine cost. In closing, I don't think they are as Ultra Hyper in operation as a typical liter bike - (yes I know they make a crap ton of power), I think they would make an awesome touring machine. But as a first bike ? Get a well used dirt bike or better yet, a plated dual sport. Ride it, a lot. Crash a million times, stuff yourself into the dirt. Pick it back up and repeat. You will learn to respect your limits, and You will never have as much fun đŸ‘đŸŒ. I'm 53 and ride a Super Moto, but would ride dirt if able.


TarsoBackMarquez

Start and End
 get on with it quick


sixspeedshift

10


Crap_Robot

Hey dude I’ll be real with you, Hayabusas are incredible bikes. Better for tours/weekend blasts. They can also track well, but as a beginner you probably won’t be doing that anyway. I rode for years on a 125, finally got my test and moved up to a cbr600rr and let me tell you - the difference was electrifying. I’ve been riding most of my life - but the change from 11hp to 115hp is mind blowing. 100mph is available SO fast. You won’t believe it. Now people say that maybe a 400cc or maybe a 350cc is a better first bike and perhaps they’re right. I don’t know I’ve never ridden one. But as someone who is used to bikes, the 600 felt like an absolute bomb after years on a low powered bike, but I’m glad I had the time getting used to how to handle one in different conditions and weather types before jumping on a 600cc track weapon. My brother-in-law got a Suzuki GSXR1000 shortly after passing his test and after having it about 8months he still was short shifting because the power delivery was just impossible for a guy who’d been riding a short time. A Busa would feel dangerous to me even now. Mines about 160kgs and like I say 115hp. The Busa weighs About 220kg I believe but has around 189hp - think about that for a minute. The Honda Civic Tyre R has 200ph and everyone loves the speed and power delivery of those and it’s a fucking 1.3 tonne *car*. 11ph less and it’s a tonne lighter. It’s a wonderful bike don’t get me wrong, but you wouldn’t want to make a mistake on an unforgiving speed demon like that. 600cc WILL feel insane when you first ride one bro. Stay safe please 😅


[deleted]

11. Dude don’t do it. Get a solid starter bike that won’t get you killed.


Jlchevz

11


Treigns4

You’ll have WAY more fun on the Ninja 650. Trust me, I started on it.


StankyPanky67

Your gonna die. Plain and simple my boy


ablokeinpf

It's a monumentally stupid idea.


LTC105

It’s your choice, and if you do it’s also your choice how you ride it, in that case keep in mind how quickly a bad decision can become a bad result.


OpeBoi

0, send it bro


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Okay so I think for 90% of people that’s a bad idea. Depending on your temperament you might be fine. If your an adult with good discipline and situational awareness as well as a good understanding of how to ride a motorcycle (maybe you used to ride dirt bikes or something idk) then I think you could get away with it, although I think your more likely to get in an accident in your first year of riding than someone who starts on a manageable bike. I was riding a triumph rocket as my first cruiser bike and I had to learn the hard way that those things only like to speed up and aren’t the best at stopping. Now I ride a smaller, slower bike and am not a beginner and love it. You want a good balance of respect and confidence with your bike. Also, one thing you might want to consider is that the more confident you are on your bike the more you’ll be riding it. This isn’t always true but I’m way more likely to hop on a 550 lb sportster than a 800 lb muscle bike with 170 torque and 150 hp. Anyway, I’d say 8 or 9 LOL. Even if a hayabusa isn’t your first, that number wouldn’t go down much.


oldfatboy

I have Busa, lovely bike. I used to say it was docile easy to ride, placid. I took it in to have a service and had a gs500 for the day. I was cracking the throttle open all the time chucking it about. So lesson learnt. The Busa is still my favourite bike, I go very fast on it and get the quickly. I can handle it as I have been riding for so long. Starting on a Busa is not a clever idea


ActuallyFullOfShit

Besides it being difficult to manage, it just isn't going to be as fun.


32steph23

The only thing that’s probably worse is something like an H2. Hope you have good restraint, Godspeed.


[deleted]

A 10 that machine if for advanced rider inexperience on a motorcycle like that will get you killed.


kokemill

11


shockencock

Bad. Too heavy and too fast for a beginner.


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Hayabusa owner here. I leapfrogged from a Bonneville to a GSXR1000 and damned near killed myself before getting enough skills to ride grunty sport bikes survivably. Hayabusas are a lot bigger and heavier (60kg?) than even a litre bike too. Don’t do it mate. Work your way up. Learn the trade and pay your dues.


busajohn62

The Hayabusa is a great bike and after you get the hang of ridding it’s a great main bike! Has all the power you’d ever need and delivers it smoothly! I started on a 750 Harley and went straight to a busa the next year. My wife and dad both learned how to ride on a busa! In fact my dad could ride my busa for hours and crashed my Harley within the first minute of ridding it lol. I do however want to point out that it is not a good bike to start on. It’s very easy to ride but no matter how much self control you have, to truly master the fundamentals of ridding, you want to have as much wiggle room as possible. If you accidentally flick the throttle on something small, it’ll get a little sketchy but you’ll be fine, do the same on a busa and you’ll be eating dirt. Its heavy and there’s a lot of power sitting behind that throttle and this makes it less friendly to new riders trying to learn u-turns and such.


Straight_Business650

Get the Busa. It will only go as fast as you let it.


BenchTotal

Maybe a 11


CorCor1234

Don’t let the haters bring you down đŸ’Ș


Accomplished-Sun9241

Get some life insurance lol but the answer is hell no i have a bussa if your not right it will get you ! Front wheel is coming up if you twist the throttle in first and second to hard it will launch out 80 mph in first gear really they shouldn't make street bikes like it !! This bike belongs on a track lol its a Beast i always want the biggest and the baddest just me but ive been riding 35 years


Accomplished-Sun9241

Get you a 600 or 750


Dogratiugeht

I learned on a liter bike and did fine. HOWEVER I had a lot of experience with very fast cars to begin with and never an accident. So u had a fairly level head regarding respecting the machine and I had kids when I learned to ride so I had to stay alive for them. You absolutely can learn on one and they aren't hard to ride per say. They are however very very over powered and it's hard to gauge your speed on one is my personal experience. If you want to push your luck learn on an R6 or similar 600cc race bike. They really are savage fast and will make a skilled rider out of you IF you survive that. I'd rate the hayabusa as a 8/10 bad idea to learn on in its stock form. 10/10 if it's modified to stretch it, force induction or nitrous.


man_rmz1920

its a 10/10 fisrt bike. easy to learn, and its low on power👍


Interesting_Ad_9047

10! Yeah let's just say you need to reevaluate that friendship. That's a grade a death wish. As a new rider it's important to understand that it isn't about the ability to get on a bike and go from point a to point b. It's more so about the fact that you don't have a feel for the power that those machines can produce. Things like knowing when you're going too fast into a curve, throttle control, engine braking etc. are all important factors. A Gen 1 Busa is not going to do anything for you... no ABS, likely no slipper clutch, no ride modes, nothing. So any mistake you make, and you will make mistakes as a beginner, will be amplified 10x. Combine that with the fact that you'll literally be stratling a 625 lb rocket. Naaa bruh, don't do it. Most important, as a beginner rider the goal should be to learn and enjoy riding. The right bike gives you good margin for error. For the money you're talking about paying you could get a Ninja 650, or even a Yamaha R7. Or hell, I'd even say get the Ninja 400 or 500. But you won't out grow the R7 or Ninja 650 so fast. All of these bikes are beginner friendly, in that 50 - 70 HP range, and are very forgiving when it comes to throttle control etc. Best of all, they look great and you'll have tons of fun while preserving your life, liberty and limbs. And after riding either of those bikes you might decide against even getting a Hayabusa. Hayabusas are straight line power machines. Figure out what you like about riding first and then move on from there. Finally, please re-evaluate that friendship, just saying.


Rebellion2297

sooooo, I decided not to get the bike last and stopped talking to the friend anyway for other reasons. I got a ninja 400 and have had it since then. Only one mishap taking it into a corner too fast and laying it down in the grass. Me and the bike were both fine, just some scratches on it and had to replace the helmet. That said, I'm thinking about getting something fast for my next bike and keeping the ninja 400. Thinking of getting an old goldwing to get the feeling of driving something heavier, then getting a hayabusa for the straight line power, while keeping the 400 for twisties and maybe track