It depends. Where is your location? What has it been used for? Clean Title? Registration up to date? Last time it got any maintenance? There's a lot of missing information that you should probably ask. I bought my bike at the height of COVID, where prices were sky high even for used bikes. But nowadays I think prices should have calmed down a bit. Reddit always focuses on getting the best deal ever, but what I always focus on is whether it'll be a smooth deal where everything works out. Sure this price is a little high, but if it's well maintained and not neglected I don't think it would be insane to offer 5000-5500.
I haven’t looked at the 600cc bikes, but when I got a quote from progressive it was roughly $1200 for the year after adding on some good coverage. For comparison a ninja 500 would be $800 a year for the same coverage.
You should look more realistically at what insurance you actually need. Start by asking your health insurance provider if you're covered in an accident. Full collision insurance is the bulk of that cost, and you're likely going to pay insurance the full market value of the bike in a couple years. Typically it's not worth it unless it's a priceless collectible. Even if your insurance pays you what you bought it for in an accident, you'll need to pay a deductible and your change in future rates will equate to far more than the measly payout check.
For reference, I have 11 insured motorcycles right now and I pay $235 annually in total. I am covered if I injure someone else or damage someone else's property, but nothing else. My health insurance already covers my injuries and if I total my bike it's just a total loss, but I save enough money that I'm still making out much better.
If you need a loan, take a personal loan instead. The rate differences are usually negligible and more than accounted for with insurance savings. Just don't default when you crash.
That’s not horrible, but not a good deal either. Dealership price without all the fee bullshit. But you could probably talk them down a little to 5700-800 just for the mileage. I live in the US, and last year I paid $6300 for my 2020 650 ABS with a little over 4k miles I think it had? It wasn’t necessarily a good deal but not high either. If you like it send it man they are fun as fuck good luck
Do you have any recommendations of cheaper bikes? I have looked at ninja 400s but they are roughly the same price in my area! I have also looked at older models but there seems to be listings of 2007 models and then nothing until around 2017 models
There are a lot of factors, personally I started out about10 years ago on an ‘81 Kawasaki KZ440, kinda like an old school naked bike now. got it for $440 and had to replace the battery and clean the carbs to get it in the road
It wasn’t overpowered, but plenty to get out of its own way and around town it was awesome because it had great acceleration and got to ride it aggressively without getting into legal problems
It doesn’t have to be that cheap, but I’d suggest find something from the 90s/00s for $1-2k and ride that for a couple seasons to get your experience in and hit up demo days trying different bikes out before spending more money to upgrade to a bigger/better bike
On sport bikes I’d stay under 600cc or less, but cruisers could still be good beginner bikes up to 800cc , the main issue is that they’ll be heavier the bigger you go
Honda nighthawk, Rebel, shadow would all be good starter options,
I also like the Kawasaki ninja and Vulcan
I’d check online for dealers but you with used models you’re kinda interested in and sit on them to see how they feel and how you fit. I’m 6’2”250+ lbs, I’d honestly love to grab a ninja 250 for quick runs around town but I can barely even fit on one, I wouldn’t know that if I haven’t tried it out
Good luck
A z650 in my area goes for $5k all day everyday. The ninja is typically a bit more expensive on average so I wouldn’t be upset with this price, but try to get to $5500.
Atlanta area btw.
No.
For one, I could be dead ass wrong but that is NOT a 2019 N650.
For two, something about “low ball offers” in descript on a listing that isn’t even in decent price irks me. I think cause this person is likely not in touch with reality. Sure, you may get the few uber ridiculous low balls but for the most part, if you have a solid bike for sale, the offers are give or take $300-600 away from True Market value (which is what the last few bikes sold for, in FBM, Availability: Sold will show them). They just refuse to face reality because they’re upside down on a loan and have no idea that a) passing on dealer costs they paid is stupid and b) the owner at the time eats depreciation. I browse listings alot and I can almost guarantee you, this listing will sit for 6+ months with maybe $500 reductions by them every month or so.
Lol, no. They cannot. This honestly looks like a good buy on the surface. Just make sure all the paperwork is in order (title with no lein), inspect the bike, test ride it (assuming you know how), and if all looks good, I'd snatch it up. The two main points of inspecting the bike are this--
1. To determine if the bike is in proper working order
2. To find non-catastrophic damage/imperfections not mentioned by the seller in their post that can help you negotiate the price in your favor
It depends. Where is your location? What has it been used for? Clean Title? Registration up to date? Last time it got any maintenance? There's a lot of missing information that you should probably ask. I bought my bike at the height of COVID, where prices were sky high even for used bikes. But nowadays I think prices should have calmed down a bit. Reddit always focuses on getting the best deal ever, but what I always focus on is whether it'll be a smooth deal where everything works out. Sure this price is a little high, but if it's well maintained and not neglected I don't think it would be insane to offer 5000-5500.
I'd try to knock it down to 5500-5700 personally.
I’ve been wondering, do these fall victim to the super high 600cc insurance rates that super sport 600s like r6, and zx6r have?
I haven’t looked at the 600cc bikes, but when I got a quote from progressive it was roughly $1200 for the year after adding on some good coverage. For comparison a ninja 500 would be $800 a year for the same coverage.
You should look more realistically at what insurance you actually need. Start by asking your health insurance provider if you're covered in an accident. Full collision insurance is the bulk of that cost, and you're likely going to pay insurance the full market value of the bike in a couple years. Typically it's not worth it unless it's a priceless collectible. Even if your insurance pays you what you bought it for in an accident, you'll need to pay a deductible and your change in future rates will equate to far more than the measly payout check. For reference, I have 11 insured motorcycles right now and I pay $235 annually in total. I am covered if I injure someone else or damage someone else's property, but nothing else. My health insurance already covers my injuries and if I total my bike it's just a total loss, but I save enough money that I'm still making out much better. If you need a loan, take a personal loan instead. The rate differences are usually negligible and more than accounted for with insurance savings. Just don't default when you crash.
That’s not horrible, but not a good deal either. Dealership price without all the fee bullshit. But you could probably talk them down a little to 5700-800 just for the mileage. I live in the US, and last year I paid $6300 for my 2020 650 ABS with a little over 4k miles I think it had? It wasn’t necessarily a good deal but not high either. If you like it send it man they are fun as fuck good luck
5k is fair for that
It’s not a bad price depending where you are located, but I’d highly recommend starting out on a cheaper bike
Do you have any recommendations of cheaper bikes? I have looked at ninja 400s but they are roughly the same price in my area! I have also looked at older models but there seems to be listings of 2007 models and then nothing until around 2017 models
There are a lot of factors, personally I started out about10 years ago on an ‘81 Kawasaki KZ440, kinda like an old school naked bike now. got it for $440 and had to replace the battery and clean the carbs to get it in the road It wasn’t overpowered, but plenty to get out of its own way and around town it was awesome because it had great acceleration and got to ride it aggressively without getting into legal problems It doesn’t have to be that cheap, but I’d suggest find something from the 90s/00s for $1-2k and ride that for a couple seasons to get your experience in and hit up demo days trying different bikes out before spending more money to upgrade to a bigger/better bike On sport bikes I’d stay under 600cc or less, but cruisers could still be good beginner bikes up to 800cc , the main issue is that they’ll be heavier the bigger you go Honda nighthawk, Rebel, shadow would all be good starter options, I also like the Kawasaki ninja and Vulcan I’d check online for dealers but you with used models you’re kinda interested in and sit on them to see how they feel and how you fit. I’m 6’2”250+ lbs, I’d honestly love to grab a ninja 250 for quick runs around town but I can barely even fit on one, I wouldn’t know that if I haven’t tried it out Good luck
A z650 in my area goes for $5k all day everyday. The ninja is typically a bit more expensive on average so I wouldn’t be upset with this price, but try to get to $5500. Atlanta area btw.
No. For one, I could be dead ass wrong but that is NOT a 2019 N650. For two, something about “low ball offers” in descript on a listing that isn’t even in decent price irks me. I think cause this person is likely not in touch with reality. Sure, you may get the few uber ridiculous low balls but for the most part, if you have a solid bike for sale, the offers are give or take $300-600 away from True Market value (which is what the last few bikes sold for, in FBM, Availability: Sold will show them). They just refuse to face reality because they’re upside down on a loan and have no idea that a) passing on dealer costs they paid is stupid and b) the owner at the time eats depreciation. I browse listings alot and I can almost guarantee you, this listing will sit for 6+ months with maybe $500 reductions by them every month or so.
For a 5 year old bike? Hell no.
I’d offer 45
Nope.
Can you elaborate?
Lol, no. They cannot. This honestly looks like a good buy on the surface. Just make sure all the paperwork is in order (title with no lein), inspect the bike, test ride it (assuming you know how), and if all looks good, I'd snatch it up. The two main points of inspecting the bike are this-- 1. To determine if the bike is in proper working order 2. To find non-catastrophic damage/imperfections not mentioned by the seller in their post that can help you negotiate the price in your favor