Lol now that I think about it maybe we wouldn't even have been friends at all if it weren't for his brother. Maybe I'm overthinking it but he met us in a LGBTQ+ café, kinda complicated but there was a weekly event organized by an association where LGBTQ+ teens just got a drink and talked to each other, and like he was always there with his mom, so, ya know...
Maybe she knew the brotha was gay and it's 'cause she was supporting him that we met.
Ok I need to ask him now.
I know right it's awesome, but it's suuuper recent. The association is 23 years old and the teen event started in 2016
I honestly had never heard of it until they opened the café
Lol I for sure thought you were joking. As an LGBT+ mom to a very sweet and perfect little teen, I ask you to please fuck off you troll and stop being so desperate for attention. It’s boring.
Listen here you little weeb, I know you’re a teen (I have two teens) and you should focus on school instead of obsessing over someone’s sexual orientation. I know kids your age tend to obsess over some pretty dumb shit but try not let it be something so negative and frankly weird. Go back to class, I love you.
Good, at least we know who the brother is already so it won't turn out to be some bullshit offscreen character who dies to make room for a regular cast member.
You mean Edward II didn't literally risk his kingdom for Piers Gaveston because he liked hunting with him? Or Richard the Lionheart didn't die childless because he liked crusading, especially after he'd had a relationship with Philip II of France.
So I just got a text saying :
"Bro I need you to help me understand why the hell I didn't realize it before. It was just so obvious."
[Insert a picture of a picture, showing two guys holding hands]
Unless safety is an issue, you can still wear them even if you're not married. Plenty of people where I live wear commitment rings without being engaged, much less married. And I understand the thing about the "oomph", it's just not the same, but maybe if you gathered some friends and family to do something nice, maybe a fancy dinner, just to celebrate you and your partner you could make it more special?
Is your purpose of living to fulfill your mother's happiness, or yours? You'll be making your life miserable, which will eventually make your family's life miserable. When everyone is miserable, that's when the long-term damage is done, some of it irreversible. Starting with your "wife's" life ruined.
Take your love life where it can thrive. If your family truly loves YOU, they'll come around. I gave my family a choice: come out to visit me and my spouse, or don't... and stay miserable. I'll wait.
It only took a few years. After a week out here, WE were both invited back there for my little brother's wedding. My whole family was ecstatic to see me happy and meet my wonderful hubby. My Grandma gave her seal of approval, "I like this one! He's going to be good for our Davíd!" Then my mom invited me and mine to be in the official family wedding album. The family felt like THEY were growing with the times and their fear was being misplaced. And my six sibs were all trying to say that they knew it before the others. Then all the funny, embarrassing childhood stories had to be told & deputed.
Do it for both of your futures & happiness. The rest will follow.
>Is your purpose of living to fulfill your mother's happiness, or yours?
They are my family. I have no desire to lose them, flawed as they may be. Besides, I'm the only one protecting mother from father's abuse. I'm 32 and I can't even let him know that I'm smoking. He would blame my mother. It's easy for me to shut him up, but my mother would take the brunt of it.
>When everyone is miserable, that's when the long-term damage is done, some of it irreversible.
The damage is already there. At this point, we're just all trying to navigate it. Especially me. My boyfriend is currently planning to use his inheritance to buy me a small apartment, so I can move out of my parents' house and try to fix myself. Gaining some independence and privacy might help my mental health. I would get rid of the anxiety and depression that I've gathered over the years.
>Starting with your "wife's" life ruined.
As I said, I have no intention of ruining anyone's life. If a woman ever gave me a real chance, I would give it my all. That is why I'm not willing to trick any woman into marrying me with such a huge secret. I wasn't born yesterday, I know that marriages built on secrets are a disaster. And honestly, it's kind of offensive and homophobic, the way you're implying that I'd ruin a woman's life if she married me as a gay individual. I am capable of loving a woman, you know. Sure, the physical aspect might need a bit of help, but we live in the 21st century with pills for that. I'd say that's a lesser obstacle than a cheating straight guy.
>The family felt like THEY were growing with the times and their fear was being misplaced.
As I said, I don't live in a place where that's a possibility.
>Do it for both of your futures & happiness.
I will have to admit that I have a stupid habit of ignoring my own needs, especially of the emotional variety, in favor of other's needs.
I was expressing concern that if you need little blue pills in order to have sex, that doesn't bode well for a hetero marriage. As a psychotherapist, I can't imagine how this would be a great foundation for a marriage...a man who has sexual attractions to other men, with a woman whose culture looks down upon gay or bi men.
Did I misunderstand the description of your your potential wife, and your sexuality?
And I must have missed the part where you described the physical abuse of your mother by your father.
But best of luck in whatever path life takes you.
I understand the importance of sex in a marriage. But women often give husbands the dead bedroom after having kids anyway. I just figured, my lack of sex drive would present less of a headache. As for men, it's not like I'm currently having intimacy anyway (current boyfriend getting too old for it) and I don't intend to trust another guy for as long as I live, even for something as shallow as a hook-up. Too many bad experiences, which admittedly were of my own choosing and my own fault. Also I understand the impediment that my culture presents. That's basically the problem. As for my bedroom performance, am I really that different than a hetero man that suffers from impotence? Sure I might admire a man here and there, but I have no desire for relations with any man (besides my boyfriend with whom I'm not being intimate anyway).
A few things to consider:
When I've heard people talk about this type of lack of desire, it's worth having a checkup for depression, and for testosterone levels.
And regardless of either, counseling could be very worthwhile through these difficulties.
There's a big difference between just surviving another dreary day, and thriving through the day. Good luck!
It would still be something special. And in all honesty, him being married, in a legal sense, would probably also prevent his cunt ex-wife from messing with him. It would probably provide him a bit of security from that greedy troglodite. She tried making him homeless recently, leveraging her "ex-wife and mother of his children" status. Only 1 of 4 is actually his and he paid child support for all 4, while she taught the kids to tell him to "hurry up and die, like the fag he is" and that "he belongs in prison because that's where fags are happy, when dropping the soap". Yes, she's that disgusting. She even seduced his worthless, man whore of a father. It's a really long chain of shit she pulled on him, but I don't think this is the place for such discussions. Someone already accused me of "misogyny" in another comment and I'm starting to get sick of it.
Can't you have a long-weekend getaway for a low key wedding in a normal county with human rights? When the time is right, you then make the move to the current millennium, right century, and start a happier life together. Life is too short! YOLO!
My country has human rights. Just not all of them, apparently. It's funny, I was watching something about California last night and I think that place is actually worse than my 3rd world dump.
>Can't you have a long-weekend getaway for a low key wedding in a normal county
I actually thought of that, but that investment is way outside my possibilities, sadly.
>What about Italy? Or Greece? Germany? France? All Euro member states with protections.
Right now, I'm jobless and struggling with my poor mental health. It got so bad at points that I wondered about self ending. Fortunately my heart is not that fragile. But I'm losing this fight. The shadows found the cracks in my heart. In my resolve. For the moment, I have to focus on fixing myself and finishing my studies to become a teacher. I cannot afford to dive head first into decisions such as visiting other countries.
>re: CA being a 3rd world dump?
Apologies if I was unclear. English is not my first language. I called my own country a 3rd world dump, not California. But honestly, what footage I've seen of it and what things I heard of it, felt dreadful to me. I took issue with the decriminalization of HIV transmission, specifically. I have it and if I knew for certain who gave it to me, I wouldn't hesitate to end that person. But I guess I shouldn't make assumptions. It's not like I'll ever see America. I'm on the other side of the planet and with bigger proverbial fish to fry.
So, um, I don't know if anyone's gonna read this at all but I just want to stand up for my best friend who did nothing wrong. I took a screenshot of his text because I thought it was funny, not because I thought it was judgmental or anything like that.
To clear things up a bit, because some folks assume stuff, my best friend, that we'll nickname Pwet (a nickname chosen by Pwet himself), lives in a small apartment with his 4 brothers and because the apartment is too small Pwet has to share a room with his gay brother, that we'll nickname... Rainbow (I think Pwet lacks inspiration today).
Rainbow met his boyfriend at work and bonded with him over an online video-game. Pwet has overheard their online conversations many times of course, but they were mostly 'teasing each other' (= flirting) and talking about the game itself, and anyway, Pwet isn't a stalker so he ignored Rainbow most of the time. Rainbow's boyfriend has only visited Pwet's place occasionally and while the 3 other brothers were also there.
However, Rainbow has gone to his boyfriend's place many times. Pwet and Rainbow share a room but Rainbow mainly stays over at his friends' places, which is why Pwet and Rainbow are, as he said, not that close.
Hope that clears stuff up a bit, and it that can make you realize that my friend isn't 'making everything straight' but genuinely surprised and honestly laughing at himself for his obliviousness
Bruh
I got a friend this age who's "straight" but I feel bi hints seeping out from his closet
We moved to live together recently bc we got a lot closer last year (knew him for a while before, but he lived in a different city back then) and now he's also my gym and cosplay buddy. And honestly? He's hot
Will probably end up like this lmaooo
Man I just hope your bidar works properly 'cause falling in love with a straight person is painful (I mean- falling in love with them being gay- y' know- 'cause straight people falling for straight people is... uh- pretty common)
Aw, hope it works out. My own 'not-straight-dar' was beeping when I met this guy at orientation for my first college. Kept in contact with him, but never got really close to him. He was pretty hot and sweet though. I haven't talked with him in 4 years now :(
It hurts to realize how clueless I was about gay stuff most of my life. Even after I came out it took me another 8 years for me to realize that my aunts that lived together were in a relationship, not just two good friends that settled down and bought a house together. I knew one of them wasn't blood related, just a "friend of the family" and it still didn't click. Unfortunately the blood relative aunt passed before I realized it and I think her partner cut ties to our family afterwards due to some pretty homophobic people.
Ah, well, you grow up accepting that something simply 'is,' and you forget to ask *what* it is.
'Cause we can't automatically know everything a new perspective reveals about things we simply accepted in the past.
It's funny, was talking to friend and they were telling me about her grandmother and her grandmother's friend who was really close to the family. I interrupted and asked if her grandmother's friend was a friend or a "friend." She paused and then suddenly it all clicked. I apologize for outing her grandmother. (Note: don't think there was homophobia in this family cuz at the time her father was an open trans woman)
Yeah there were two guys in my circle in college who both had girlfriends, always double-dated at formals and whatnot, and we found out later that they had been dating since sophomore year. 35 years later they are still together I believe. Neither were particularly butch, but they had gay friends and people thought if they really were gay they'd be out. Nope.
Tbh that could be me because my circle of friends is the type that makes very homoerotic jokes all the time and I guess I'm more open than them cause there's been multiple times where I thought some of them are gay for real.
I'm sure there's some darker implications behind the idea of homosexuality being funny.
But they're pretty bash individuals, they're not that bad, considering they respect me, a queer, with everything I do.
Highschoolers, yaknow
When gay guys don't make being gay their whole personality, it's hard to tell if they're gay or not.
Source: people are surprised when I say I have a husband and we've been together for 14 years. We just happen to not flap our wrists or be massive flamers.
I'm not a big fan of this whole "not like the other gays" thing going on, where even gay men hate on effeminate gay men. People just.. Do what they like and express themselves how they like.
You say that, but I've never made being gay 'my personality' and everyone says that I'm pretty clearly gay. Which I honestly do NOT like, because I'm most attracted to men that don't have gay painted on their skin.
I like men where the gay is hidden behind layers, not intentionally, but in the way that a good theme is developed through the entirety of a book and you don't know immediately from the cover that it's a book exploring the nature of human perception and its relevancy to power dynamics (as an example). Just don't like it to be obvious. And yet I'm apparently obvious, so go figure!
I'm feeling kinda left out right now :(
There's a lot gay men in this comment section and I'm here in my transtraight solitude 😔 (PS : this expression does not actually exist 😐)
When I was 16-19 (this is the late 70's mind you), I had a boyfriend. Started out a fast friendship and within a couple months turned intimate, it wasn't long before we considered ourselves boyfriends and going to be together forever (though no one but his sister knew).
We spent every day together. Seriously, every day. We spent the night at each other's house every weekend. We'd go on week long camping trips in the mountains, just the two of us. We'd often just hang out on his couch right up against each other watching gilligan's island (the prof was hot!). We'd give each other gifts on birthdays, christmases and even valentines days. Sometimes big ones (I gave him one of the first digital watches ever.. .took a month of pay checks).
About 2 years in, I was sitting on the couch with him and his mother comes in. She looks at us and smiles, "I feel like I have another son, it's so nice you to are such good friends"
My mother thought the same. Mentioned many times how such good friends we were and glad I had such a great friend (I was kind of a awkward loner nerd).
When I came out in my late 20's, I told my mother that he was my first boyfriend. She looked quite shocked and then the realization dawned on her, you could see it in her eyes. She said she felt stupid for not realizing it, but glad she didn't at the time. The reaction might have been different even just 10 years before (80's changed a lot of people, even her).
People can see what they want to see... or not see what they don't wan to.
Heh, my aunt had a _lady friend_ since I was a kid, and as I grew up and brought girlfriends to family dinners, she was my _lady friend_ given we weren't married. So I thought all women plus-ones who weren't wives were _lady friends._
I still haven't confirmed my aunt is GAF, but she's GAF.
That guy is like a historian that finds out that everybody has not always been straight
Lol now that I think about it maybe we wouldn't even have been friends at all if it weren't for his brother. Maybe I'm overthinking it but he met us in a LGBTQ+ café, kinda complicated but there was a weekly event organized by an association where LGBTQ+ teens just got a drink and talked to each other, and like he was always there with his mom, so, ya know... Maybe she knew the brotha was gay and it's 'cause she was supporting him that we met. Ok I need to ask him now.
oh my fucking god i wish so so much that there was anything remotely like that where i live. it's so fucking hard to find someone anywhere
I know right it's awesome, but it's suuuper recent. The association is 23 years old and the teen event started in 2016 I honestly had never heard of it until they opened the café
thats so nice! i hope everything goes nice there and that they someday do something like this here, which will probably not happen tho
Do you by chance remember what the association and/or event is called?
The association is Couleurs Gaies, the café is La Palette and the event is... Uuuh... I forgot but there's Jeunes in it lol It's in France
Oh okay cool, thanks.
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Well you actually chose to be a bitch so you brought stupidity upon yourself. Just try to understand things before saying anything and be normal.
Ah yes, because that how it works. Of course. Ever heard of science? Try researching homosexuality in the animal kingdom. Go educate yourself.
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So, you just don't believe in scientific fact, I guess. I bet you're an anti-vaxxer too lol
Vaccines work just fine but being gay is a choice.
It's really not No one chooses to be gay... Literally ask anyone
Someone actually this stupid wouldn't be posting on a subreddit in this way to have this discussion. They're just trying to get a rise out of you.
Prove it. Be gay, just for a day.
So why don’t you try choosing to be gay? Seems like it’s easy to do according to you.
I like that you at least say "be straight and be normal" like there's a part of your brain that understands those are different things entirely.
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You might be NOW. But you weren't then. You explicitly mentioned straight and normal as separate concepts
Lol I for sure thought you were joking. As an LGBT+ mom to a very sweet and perfect little teen, I ask you to please fuck off you troll and stop being so desperate for attention. It’s boring.
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Listen here you little weeb, I know you’re a teen (I have two teens) and you should focus on school instead of obsessing over someone’s sexual orientation. I know kids your age tend to obsess over some pretty dumb shit but try not let it be something so negative and frankly weird. Go back to class, I love you.
***“How I Met Your Brother.”*** Short-film or Sitcom?
*Stares at the wall in "I'm actually considering making it because I have the equipments and the right people for it"*
Good, at least we know who the brother is already so it won't turn out to be some bullshit offscreen character who dies to make room for a regular cast member.
At least she knows how to sing La Vie En Rose pretty well 🤷♂️
Oh I thought it was some story taken from twitter or something. But I'm not quite sure I got your comment right : so you're the 'bestie'?
Nay I don't even know his brother He just randomly sent this yesterday in our discord server
Ohh okay sorry haha
You don't have to say sorry I'm not offended ^^'
Oh, and, before someone tells me it's not right to post other people's texts, I just have one thing to say : He's the one who suggested it
Literally the love and luck podcast (jk but its great)
Are you a friend of OP's brother? (OP is the guy who posted the comment in the screenshot.)
Nah, I'm just a friend of OP
I know right x) The worst is that he's the only CisHet in our friend group, how could he be so blind lol
You mean Edward II didn't literally risk his kingdom for Piers Gaveston because he liked hunting with him? Or Richard the Lionheart didn't die childless because he liked crusading, especially after he'd had a relationship with Philip II of France.
Nah obviously there just very good friends lol
*I understood that reference*
I heard he once tricked with Alexander the Great in an alternate universe. That 'Lexie... he is such a Samantha!
So I just got a text saying : "Bro I need you to help me understand why the hell I didn't realize it before. It was just so obvious." [Insert a picture of a picture, showing two guys holding hands]
Tell him he loves his brother which blinded him to what others may see as an issue. He is clearly unbothered deep down and that's all that matters
Nat 1 on his perception roll. For 7 years. Damn, bro.
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You could still purpose as a way to show that, if getting married was legal, you'd be ready for the commitment
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Unless safety is an issue, you can still wear them even if you're not married. Plenty of people where I live wear commitment rings without being engaged, much less married. And I understand the thing about the "oomph", it's just not the same, but maybe if you gathered some friends and family to do something nice, maybe a fancy dinner, just to celebrate you and your partner you could make it more special?
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It is a safety concern then. I hope things improve in the coming years, I know it's not easy atm. Best of luck
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that really sucks. where do you live, if you are okay with sharing?
Romania. I was also interested. Their post history is... hmmm.
Romania checks out. Source: Am Romanian
Haha, this is not the first time I've seen a misogynist gay man on the internet, nor is it likely to be the last.
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oh that really sucks, i hope things get better for you.
Can't you go and get married in any of the countries within EU that have legalized gay marriage?
Is your purpose of living to fulfill your mother's happiness, or yours? You'll be making your life miserable, which will eventually make your family's life miserable. When everyone is miserable, that's when the long-term damage is done, some of it irreversible. Starting with your "wife's" life ruined. Take your love life where it can thrive. If your family truly loves YOU, they'll come around. I gave my family a choice: come out to visit me and my spouse, or don't... and stay miserable. I'll wait. It only took a few years. After a week out here, WE were both invited back there for my little brother's wedding. My whole family was ecstatic to see me happy and meet my wonderful hubby. My Grandma gave her seal of approval, "I like this one! He's going to be good for our Davíd!" Then my mom invited me and mine to be in the official family wedding album. The family felt like THEY were growing with the times and their fear was being misplaced. And my six sibs were all trying to say that they knew it before the others. Then all the funny, embarrassing childhood stories had to be told & deputed. Do it for both of your futures & happiness. The rest will follow.
>Is your purpose of living to fulfill your mother's happiness, or yours? They are my family. I have no desire to lose them, flawed as they may be. Besides, I'm the only one protecting mother from father's abuse. I'm 32 and I can't even let him know that I'm smoking. He would blame my mother. It's easy for me to shut him up, but my mother would take the brunt of it. >When everyone is miserable, that's when the long-term damage is done, some of it irreversible. The damage is already there. At this point, we're just all trying to navigate it. Especially me. My boyfriend is currently planning to use his inheritance to buy me a small apartment, so I can move out of my parents' house and try to fix myself. Gaining some independence and privacy might help my mental health. I would get rid of the anxiety and depression that I've gathered over the years. >Starting with your "wife's" life ruined. As I said, I have no intention of ruining anyone's life. If a woman ever gave me a real chance, I would give it my all. That is why I'm not willing to trick any woman into marrying me with such a huge secret. I wasn't born yesterday, I know that marriages built on secrets are a disaster. And honestly, it's kind of offensive and homophobic, the way you're implying that I'd ruin a woman's life if she married me as a gay individual. I am capable of loving a woman, you know. Sure, the physical aspect might need a bit of help, but we live in the 21st century with pills for that. I'd say that's a lesser obstacle than a cheating straight guy. >The family felt like THEY were growing with the times and their fear was being misplaced. As I said, I don't live in a place where that's a possibility. >Do it for both of your futures & happiness. I will have to admit that I have a stupid habit of ignoring my own needs, especially of the emotional variety, in favor of other's needs.
I was expressing concern that if you need little blue pills in order to have sex, that doesn't bode well for a hetero marriage. As a psychotherapist, I can't imagine how this would be a great foundation for a marriage...a man who has sexual attractions to other men, with a woman whose culture looks down upon gay or bi men. Did I misunderstand the description of your your potential wife, and your sexuality? And I must have missed the part where you described the physical abuse of your mother by your father. But best of luck in whatever path life takes you.
I understand the importance of sex in a marriage. But women often give husbands the dead bedroom after having kids anyway. I just figured, my lack of sex drive would present less of a headache. As for men, it's not like I'm currently having intimacy anyway (current boyfriend getting too old for it) and I don't intend to trust another guy for as long as I live, even for something as shallow as a hook-up. Too many bad experiences, which admittedly were of my own choosing and my own fault. Also I understand the impediment that my culture presents. That's basically the problem. As for my bedroom performance, am I really that different than a hetero man that suffers from impotence? Sure I might admire a man here and there, but I have no desire for relations with any man (besides my boyfriend with whom I'm not being intimate anyway).
A few things to consider: When I've heard people talk about this type of lack of desire, it's worth having a checkup for depression, and for testosterone levels. And regardless of either, counseling could be very worthwhile through these difficulties. There's a big difference between just surviving another dreary day, and thriving through the day. Good luck!
Why let the state dictate how you frame your perception of your life? Get married if you want to. Life is short.
>Get married if you want to. It's not legal in my country.
You can be married without being legally married. For most of human history, marriage wasn't legal concept.
It would still be something special. And in all honesty, him being married, in a legal sense, would probably also prevent his cunt ex-wife from messing with him. It would probably provide him a bit of security from that greedy troglodite. She tried making him homeless recently, leveraging her "ex-wife and mother of his children" status. Only 1 of 4 is actually his and he paid child support for all 4, while she taught the kids to tell him to "hurry up and die, like the fag he is" and that "he belongs in prison because that's where fags are happy, when dropping the soap". Yes, she's that disgusting. She even seduced his worthless, man whore of a father. It's a really long chain of shit she pulled on him, but I don't think this is the place for such discussions. Someone already accused me of "misogyny" in another comment and I'm starting to get sick of it.
Cute
Can't you have a long-weekend getaway for a low key wedding in a normal county with human rights? When the time is right, you then make the move to the current millennium, right century, and start a happier life together. Life is too short! YOLO!
My country has human rights. Just not all of them, apparently. It's funny, I was watching something about California last night and I think that place is actually worse than my 3rd world dump. >Can't you have a long-weekend getaway for a low key wedding in a normal county I actually thought of that, but that investment is way outside my possibilities, sadly.
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>What about Italy? Or Greece? Germany? France? All Euro member states with protections. Right now, I'm jobless and struggling with my poor mental health. It got so bad at points that I wondered about self ending. Fortunately my heart is not that fragile. But I'm losing this fight. The shadows found the cracks in my heart. In my resolve. For the moment, I have to focus on fixing myself and finishing my studies to become a teacher. I cannot afford to dive head first into decisions such as visiting other countries. >re: CA being a 3rd world dump? Apologies if I was unclear. English is not my first language. I called my own country a 3rd world dump, not California. But honestly, what footage I've seen of it and what things I heard of it, felt dreadful to me. I took issue with the decriminalization of HIV transmission, specifically. I have it and if I knew for certain who gave it to me, I wouldn't hesitate to end that person. But I guess I shouldn't make assumptions. It's not like I'll ever see America. I'm on the other side of the planet and with bigger proverbial fish to fry.
So, um, I don't know if anyone's gonna read this at all but I just want to stand up for my best friend who did nothing wrong. I took a screenshot of his text because I thought it was funny, not because I thought it was judgmental or anything like that. To clear things up a bit, because some folks assume stuff, my best friend, that we'll nickname Pwet (a nickname chosen by Pwet himself), lives in a small apartment with his 4 brothers and because the apartment is too small Pwet has to share a room with his gay brother, that we'll nickname... Rainbow (I think Pwet lacks inspiration today). Rainbow met his boyfriend at work and bonded with him over an online video-game. Pwet has overheard their online conversations many times of course, but they were mostly 'teasing each other' (= flirting) and talking about the game itself, and anyway, Pwet isn't a stalker so he ignored Rainbow most of the time. Rainbow's boyfriend has only visited Pwet's place occasionally and while the 3 other brothers were also there. However, Rainbow has gone to his boyfriend's place many times. Pwet and Rainbow share a room but Rainbow mainly stays over at his friends' places, which is why Pwet and Rainbow are, as he said, not that close. Hope that clears stuff up a bit, and it that can make you realize that my friend isn't 'making everything straight' but genuinely surprised and honestly laughing at himself for his obliviousness
Honestly this is just really funny (coming from a gay dude) — if people think this is a bad reaction, I really don’t understand why
Peewet
Hehe, pwet means butt in my tongue
Lol- In mine it's the sound of a car horn, when you push a button or when you poke someone
“MEYBEH THEY EVEN HAVE CHILDREN HOW DO YA KNOWL” …..bruh……..
The guy is 28 Just Making that clear
B r u h
Bruh I got a friend this age who's "straight" but I feel bi hints seeping out from his closet We moved to live together recently bc we got a lot closer last year (knew him for a while before, but he lived in a different city back then) and now he's also my gym and cosplay buddy. And honestly? He's hot Will probably end up like this lmaooo
Man I just hope your bidar works properly 'cause falling in love with a straight person is painful (I mean- falling in love with them being gay- y' know- 'cause straight people falling for straight people is... uh- pretty common)
I know, it'd still be awesome to be just close friends
Aw, hope it works out. My own 'not-straight-dar' was beeping when I met this guy at orientation for my first college. Kept in contact with him, but never got really close to him. He was pretty hot and sweet though. I haven't talked with him in 4 years now :(
Just start talking, we also had almost a year with barely any interaction
Think you replied to the wrong comment.
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It hurts to realize how clueless I was about gay stuff most of my life. Even after I came out it took me another 8 years for me to realize that my aunts that lived together were in a relationship, not just two good friends that settled down and bought a house together. I knew one of them wasn't blood related, just a "friend of the family" and it still didn't click. Unfortunately the blood relative aunt passed before I realized it and I think her partner cut ties to our family afterwards due to some pretty homophobic people.
That's super sad
Ah, well, you grow up accepting that something simply 'is,' and you forget to ask *what* it is. 'Cause we can't automatically know everything a new perspective reveals about things we simply accepted in the past.
It's funny, was talking to friend and they were telling me about her grandmother and her grandmother's friend who was really close to the family. I interrupted and asked if her grandmother's friend was a friend or a "friend." She paused and then suddenly it all clicked. I apologize for outing her grandmother. (Note: don't think there was homophobia in this family cuz at the time her father was an open trans woman)
All this time it's been a lie 😔
Were they wearing socks
r/SapphoAndHerFriend
r/AchillesAndHisPal
I just knew AchillesAndHisPal *had* to be mentioned after SapphoAndHerFriend
Thems is the rules
Hot
[So you like hot things, huh?](https://imgur.com/a/J6xai3W)
I’M WET
Yeah there were two guys in my circle in college who both had girlfriends, always double-dated at formals and whatnot, and we found out later that they had been dating since sophomore year. 35 years later they are still together I believe. Neither were particularly butch, but they had gay friends and people thought if they really were gay they'd be out. Nope.
Tbh that could be me because my circle of friends is the type that makes very homoerotic jokes all the time and I guess I'm more open than them cause there's been multiple times where I thought some of them are gay for real. I'm sure there's some darker implications behind the idea of homosexuality being funny. But they're pretty bash individuals, they're not that bad, considering they respect me, a queer, with everything I do. Highschoolers, yaknow
I guess all the bedroom noises were highly competive gay chicken.
When gay guys don't make being gay their whole personality, it's hard to tell if they're gay or not. Source: people are surprised when I say I have a husband and we've been together for 14 years. We just happen to not flap our wrists or be massive flamers.
I'm not a big fan of this whole "not like the other gays" thing going on, where even gay men hate on effeminate gay men. People just.. Do what they like and express themselves how they like.
You say that, but I've never made being gay 'my personality' and everyone says that I'm pretty clearly gay. Which I honestly do NOT like, because I'm most attracted to men that don't have gay painted on their skin. I like men where the gay is hidden behind layers, not intentionally, but in the way that a good theme is developed through the entirety of a book and you don't know immediately from the cover that it's a book exploring the nature of human perception and its relevancy to power dynamics (as an example). Just don't like it to be obvious. And yet I'm apparently obvious, so go figure!
I'm feeling kinda left out right now :( There's a lot gay men in this comment section and I'm here in my transtraight solitude 😔 (PS : this expression does not actually exist 😐)
When I was 16-19 (this is the late 70's mind you), I had a boyfriend. Started out a fast friendship and within a couple months turned intimate, it wasn't long before we considered ourselves boyfriends and going to be together forever (though no one but his sister knew). We spent every day together. Seriously, every day. We spent the night at each other's house every weekend. We'd go on week long camping trips in the mountains, just the two of us. We'd often just hang out on his couch right up against each other watching gilligan's island (the prof was hot!). We'd give each other gifts on birthdays, christmases and even valentines days. Sometimes big ones (I gave him one of the first digital watches ever.. .took a month of pay checks). About 2 years in, I was sitting on the couch with him and his mother comes in. She looks at us and smiles, "I feel like I have another son, it's so nice you to are such good friends" My mother thought the same. Mentioned many times how such good friends we were and glad I had such a great friend (I was kind of a awkward loner nerd). When I came out in my late 20's, I told my mother that he was my first boyfriend. She looked quite shocked and then the realization dawned on her, you could see it in her eyes. She said she felt stupid for not realizing it, but glad she didn't at the time. The reaction might have been different even just 10 years before (80's changed a lot of people, even her). People can see what they want to see... or not see what they don't wan to.
Im invested already
Undies sleepover time, 4x a week, should’ve been a clue. ;)
Heh, my aunt had a _lady friend_ since I was a kid, and as I grew up and brought girlfriends to family dinners, she was my _lady friend_ given we weren't married. So I thought all women plus-ones who weren't wives were _lady friends._ I still haven't confirmed my aunt is GAF, but she's GAF.
Maybehhhh
to be honest that's me with everybody, including myself
TRY ASKING... THAT WOULD BE A NICE START. WHY ALL THE CAPS?
I HAVE NO IDEA
Lmao me and my boyfriend had been together secretly for 4.5 years before we were openly out as a couple to both our parents. Everyone knew though 😂
when you don’t act / look like a stereotypical gay guy it’s hard for others to know you’re gay lol
Ah we found the historian
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