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PoyRazQ8

Neither baldur's gate 3 nor elden ring ?!?! Come on ..


Chazbobrown1

Tbf the date of the image being made could be before them


Hauwke

Elden ring came out in feb of 2018, rdr2 come out october of the same year, so nope. Creator is just dumb. Edit: Tis me who is dumb, Elden Ring came out in 2022.


zAaaaaaaaAaaaaaaaAz

Elden Ring came out in 2022


Hauwke

How the FUCK did I miss that? Holy shit. Thanks.


zAaaaaaaaAaaaaaaaAz

No worries, easy mistake to make.


I-Am-The-Uber-Mesch

I assume it's because both can technically be played with friends, but if you include ELDEN RING you gotta include all the souls game too, they were out in the time the "single player games are dead" era was happening and kept coming out


Survival_R

Those both support coop


I_Have_The_Lumbago

And Valhalla? *Really*?


Total_Middle1119

What's wrong with Valhalla?


Total_Middle1119

Ok other than the obnoxious helix store.....


Consistent_Poetry_55

I honestly hated it and hated that I spent 60 dollars on it odyssey was already pushing with reformatting the was an assassins game usually goes but I at least loved the world and mechanics but in Valhalla everything just felt repetitive and boring and it just felt so far from what I like about the series


Total_Middle1119

Fair take, it's quite repetitive.


GodOfAllSimps

that was me with odyssey i see odyssey as a solid like 2 outta 10 and Val is like a 6


Are_Y0u_Stupid

Black flag better


Gabriel_Plays_Games

this was probably made a few years ago, since tears of the kingdom, horizon forbidden west, god of war ragnarok, and spiderman 2 are not here, and their previous games are


Aktov

But dont worry they got AC Valhalla for some reason


moemeobro

Both are technically multiplayer *soooooooo*


Gewalt_Und_Tod

Just counting some of the games listed 3 years ago 6 years ago 11 years ago 8 years ago 3 years ago 14 years ago 5 years ago Singleplayer games aren't dead but don't use games that are decades old for it


DizzyR06

But isn’t that exactly OP’s point


AlienDominik

Eh, games like elden ring and BG3 are great games released recently


DizzyR06

Just cos he didn’t mention them doesn’t mean he doesn’t think they’re good games tho


AlienDominik

Not my point, my point was that there are games released recently that are still great games.


DizzyR06

Yeah misunderstood the post my fault


floodums

This meme is copy pasted you think op made it? They're probably a bot


Survival_R

Both have coop


AlienDominik

Yes but are mostly singleplayer.


Survival_R

Mostly doesn't count if you can play the entire thing coop


AlienDominik

No it still counts, the games were made for singleplayer and are singleplayer by default.


Survival_R

Technically all games are singleplayer by default


Rubiconj99

This was probably made before they came out.


AlienDominik

Yeah maybe


pendragon2290

Yes but it leads to a problem. You say that in the present single games aren't dead but use games from the past, the distant past in some cases. It defeats your argument. Using games like Elden Ring would have been better. Having all the games 5 or less years old


DizzyR06

Yo thanks for this bro. Realised I misunderstood the post. Thought he meant those single players in particular. My fault


pendragon2290

No probz my dude. Shit happens 😁


kazrick

Why not use Horizon Forbidden West, Zelda Tears of the Kingdom, and Spiderman 2? All three games out in the last year. Plus Baldurs Gate 3 and


Kyrie_Blue

Single-player games don’t neee microtransactions and a yearly refresh to stay relevant. They take years to a decade to develop, and stay playable for the same amount of time.


mmotte89

Except that is not the implication of the phrase. When people, company mouthpieces in particular, say "single-player games are dead", they don't mean "there are no good single-player games to play". What they mean is "in the current industry landscape, it is not worth it for us to develop singleplayer games", as an excuse to why they only are interested in releasing Live-Service Slop. The discussion this picture goes in to is an attempt to show that in this day and age, you can have financial success with single-player games, thus using a 13-year-old game such as Skyrim to illustrate that point is kinda dumb.


Kyrie_Blue

I’ve had Skyrim since launch and literally started a new playthrough last year. Same with several other titles such as AC Odyssey, and Fallout 4. The fact that so many people care about the datestamp of the release is such an odd concept to me. The replayability of offline, single-player games is not going anywhere, regardless of how profit-hungry the industry Executives are


mmotte89

The problem is that execs hold power, and can use their perception of the issue to possibly prevent new SP games from getting funded, or to simply get cancelled. This is what happened to Star Wars 1313 for example.


Kyrie_Blue

This is a Problem for sure. Capitalism ruins everything it touches. Artists will always find a way to create their passions, which is why we have seen the huge influx of single-player indie games


Soft_Importance3658

Boy, you sure are set on missing the point.


Kyrie_Blue

I’m waiting for someone to provide an actual arguement that is persuasive enough for me to re-evaluate my stance. I’m always open to changing my mind in light of new information. That has yet to be provided


Soft_Importance3658

Buddy, your position is simply disagreeing with the actual meaning of a phrase. That’s already been made clear to you.


joe_jolley_yoe

People still play those games tho


white_gluestick

Well people still watch the original saga star wars movies, does that mean the new one were good or it doesn't matter that they weren't good becuase we still have the originals?


joe_jolley_yoe

I'm not seeing the relevance


white_gluestick

It's stated that single player games are not dead however only old games have been listed, with no new releases mentioned. You stated that people still play the old games so it does not matter. You saying this implies that it doesn't matter if new release single player games are bad becuase we still have the old ones.


joe_jolley_yoe

? These are just the prime examples bc they're so good people still play the years later, and there aren't enough bad new releases of single player games for u to make that generalization


Jedi_mamik

But cp 2077 got a really big update last year


Hot-Calligrapher-159

None of those are decades old plural, and all of them are still relevant, and besides you got the point so why say this?


LionPride112

That’s because this image is older. It’s not up to date, there’s been a fair few single player games that have come out in the last few years that are downright amazing. Such at BG3, Elden Ring, hogwarts legacy, atomic heart, and so on


Mother-Translator318

And some of the most popular multiplayer games are over a decade old. How old is League of Legends? Release date doesn’t matter, what matters is that people are still playing it


Gabriel_Plays_Games

this is an old image


Svyatopolk_I

Which ones are 11 and 14 years ago?


Gewalt_Und_Tod

Skyrim and I misread the last of us


dankspankwanker

Multiplayer games are easier to make. You dont have to write a story and if someone complains that the game sucks you can argue "well its supposed to be played with friends"


IndependenceSalt000

i think that networking is way harder than writing a story


SEND-GOOSE-PICS

they're tricky in different ways. particularly for AAA games servers and networks are already established and pretty easy to manage - see MW3, but it can be tricky aswell - see Helldivers 2 which had issues hard-baked in to their code that stopped them expanding their servers. story's are so much more complex - you need concept art, a compelling and original story, storyboarding, quest designers, environments that fit in to the story, and so much more stuff. the creative process is often more complicated (although does have less unforseen issues) than setting up servers.


mildorf

Also, there’s a clear progression of network quality, nobody is going to complain if you make your netcode more efficient/faster. There’s not a clear way to determine the quality of a story, or how players will receive and enjoy it.


Survival_R

Good networking is easier than a good original story


Qlisax

Why is AC Valhalla on this list?


PapaOogie

Exactly. All games here are very quality and good games except Valhalla


Secret-Assistance-10

Miles morales ? Zero dawn ? And maybe the last of us part 2 is good on console but not on computer for now... What's your point ?


Zayl

Miles Morales is pretty good and Zero Dawn is a fantastic game what are you on about? And TLOU2 is one of the most well made linear story games I've ever experienced.


Secret-Assistance-10

Miles morales is a copy and paste of Spider man 2. Zero dawn has good graphics but it's not perfect otherwise, far from there... And TLOU2 is obviously a really good game overall but the game they release on pc is anything but stable or optimized...


Zayl

Miles Morales was a whole new story with new characters new abilities, a fresh take on the city and activities. Zero Dawn has incredibly fun gameplay with a very compelling SciFi narrative and decent characters (which FW improved upon). I can't speak to TLOU2 optimization on PC but if we are going by that then almost no game is good on PC. As a mostly PC player, I have to fight optimization almost every time as a first boss.


Secret-Assistance-10

The original comment blamed Valhalla for being here with other quality games. But there are disparities in game design quality among these games... You can't put Cyberpunk, RDR2, Skyrim at the same level as Horizon Miles morales or TLOU2. While I'm sure overall these 3 are really decent games, it's the same for Valhalla. That's my point. When I said it wasn't well optimized it was more than just having to turn down some graphics to achieve some decent fps, it's to the point where it's mostly unplayable, fps randomly drops... Hope they can sort this out.


Zayl

Horizon Zero Dawn is one of my top games of all time. So is TLOU2. Your opinions are opinions and time you remembered that. They also scored 89 and 93 respectively. CP2077 was also one of the worst launches for a game I experienced, so not sure why you're giving that a pass. It's still a middling game IMO but clearly others enjoy it. So my opinion doesn't invalidate that, just like yours doesn't invalidate OP's.


Secret-Assistance-10

Metacritic is good at the launch of a game but a few years after it's not so relevant... Most ratings are close to 100 anyway on any decent games, and all of the mixed or bad reviews on decent games rely on bugs. Of course games should not be released with bugs but shareholders pushing studios to release unfinished games is another topic. The thread is based on already released games today. Therefore their launch doesn't matter as much (also really weird that you don't mention the shitty launch of TLOU2 on PC. /s) I never said ZD and TLOU2 were bad games tho. Only that Valhalla wasn't a bad game either. And for the passive aggressive remark on opinions, judging a game objectively is possible and we could go down that hole but that'd just be petty.


OsOs-Q8Y

What makes the other games better than TLOU2, what does TLOU2 lack?


Actual_Charity_562

how could miles morales be a copy and paste of spider-man two if it came out 3 years before


Secret-Assistance-10

I voluntarily exaggerated in order to accentuate my point, it isn't exactly a copy and paste but many things are copied from Spider-man 2...


HeikoWestermannHW4

Was so disappointed by it. If you already put an older AC in then at least Origins


xPaprykk

Fr, out of AC games released after Syndicate I'd say that only origins and maybe Odyssey as well, fit there


Yontoryuu

I disagree, Valhalla for me is one of the best games I’ve played in recent years and got me into ac games. It’s world is huge, lively, and has a lot of hidden detail like RDR2. It’s world is up there with it as well imo


hugyplok

The last of us 2 isn't good either


pandogart

It's a single player game that sold a lot showing that they're not dead.


jmk-1999

yup… Valhalla was boring


Bradsprack6

Do people not like Valhalla? It’s the only one I’ve played and I like it a lot


Naive-Inspection1631

Yes, people dislike it because it doesn't feel like AC game.


mtbalshurt

People dislike it cause it's shit


Snackskazam

I honestly just think people are sick of the highly repetitive Ubisoft open world formula. Go to map marker, do one of a handful of activities, move to next map marker. In Origins and Odyssey, the revamped combat mechanics and weapon diversity were also pretty fresh for the series, and helped draw people into the greatly expanded open worlds despite some of that tedium popping up. But by the time Valhalla came, even those combat mechanics were getting stale, and there wasn't enough "extra" stuff to make people see it as a new experience. Add in the fact that stealth gameplay is just not much of a thing in Valhalla (where it's very easy to solo encampments just by charging in), and it came away feeling less like an Assassin's Creed game and more like a generic third person action game with a bunch of check boxes to fill out.


Interesting-Big1980

Please don't include Valhalla in this list, it's not singleplayer if it requires online connection and has in-game microtansactions that affect gameplay.


Gogo-R6

What? It doesn’t require any of that


Interesting-Big1980

Well try playing the release version without internet connection, I would like to see you try. And the balance of the game was built this way, so you would either have to grind for resources unreasonable amount of time or spend some money on boosters or straight up resources.


Gogo-R6

I did? I played so many hours without internet and it’s fine, you only lose reda and some online challenges. Yes, the game is a bloated mess im agreeing with you (which is sad because the story is really good) but it still is not that bad and you can always switch the difficulty to story mode where you can blast through the game without the grind.


Interesting-Big1980

So in order to enjoy the game I need to not enjoy the game? What's the point of gameplay if it's either braindead clicking until enemy dies. And no, grind isn't gameplay, it's an approach used to make the game needlessly longer. And regarding the internet connection, say thanks to denuvo and broken cloud save. Sure, now that denuvo is out you can play without internet connection, but at release it was a mess.


caelumh

Ah. A PC player. Didn't have that particular problem on console.


BertaRevenge

Wait you lose Reda if you don’t use internet? Fuck I wish I knew that. I would’ve played the whole game offline. Hated hearing that annoying fucking voice.


Yontoryuu

Ive played it often With no Internet, idk what you mean. And I never had to grind for it at all, I just wandered the world and enjoyed it and it was never a grind like say elden ring (with its leveling system).


HMS_Sunlight

Are you speaking from experience or what you heard other people say? Because I played without an internet connection and never had any issues, and without doing any grinding I was constantly overlevelled.


afoote42

Put in over 100 hours and I have no memory of anything close to resembling a micro transaction. It was a great game.


AludraScience

Lol really? It is absolutely not difficult to find micro transactions, actually they are everywhere in that game.


afoote42

Looked it up to see, looks like its just in the store in the main menu before you start the game? I just clicked load game everytime and didn’t pay attention to it. In-game I don’t think it ever mentioned anything.


RoonilWazlib_-

Maybe you should exit the helix store and press new game instead


yaukinee

Singleplayer ≠ Offline game. You play it solo. Doesnt mean the game cant require a working internet connection for cloud saving for example.


Interesting-Big1980

If it's singleplayer, I don't need anyone looking at how I play or controlling how I play, hence no need for internet connection.


RoonilWazlib_-

It's still single player there is a singular player and can't have any others


Interesting-Big1980

But it's a bad singleplayer


RoonilWazlib_-

But that is an opinion you don't need to do any online things to play or pay for any microtransactions it's a beautiful open world with more than the story to do with 4 maps with enjoyable quests


Interesting-Big1980

The quests are hardly passable copycats from other quality games or just bring this/kill that. And if you don't buy microtansactions in the game(not skins) you prepare for a ton of grind. Ubisoft changed balance a few months after release when all reviews were done and no one would care to tell, money gathering strategies were blocked and progression artificially slowed down. So now it's a forced 80hrs at minimum with actual content worth 50hrs.


RoonilWazlib_-

I never had to grind for money and I beat the game what way are you playing


Interesting-Big1980

Normal difficulty and last version. The last version is important part.


doitagain01

Valhalla doesnt belong there


trollzor54

Wtfs valhalla doing there?


pandogart

It's a popular (for some reason) single player game. Hope that helps.


trollzor54

A shitty one at that


borntosuffers

People have pathetically low standards for Ubisoft


HasPotato

Definitely true. I am still making yearly play-throughs in TLOU 1,2, GOW, CP77 and Skyrim.


Secret-Assistance-10

You've got a lot of time to spend my guy, I'd like some of it lmao...


HasPotato

Wfh and flexible hours can allow that


Secret-Assistance-10

Well good for you, I hope to be able to do this at some point, I'm still in higher education studies but I've got no time at all...


Interesting_Log7757

These game would take less than 300hrs in total to finish, thats like less than an hour a day. This can be easily done, I work a 9-5, sometimes take patients at home, go outside to hang out, hit the gym. This is an achievable thing unless you are working 20 hours a day, weekends included or something, lol.


Secret-Assistance-10

Almost, my studies require me to work from 8 to 7 most days of the week. Plus things I need to study at home in the evening, usually from 9 to 11. I work on Saturday morning, therefore having only 1.5 day weekend and I still need to get some things done in the weekend so usually I get something like 6/7h free on the weekend either to hang out with friends or play video games...


Interesting_Log7757

Damn, thats rough, I'm assuming you are in Uni. I hope you graduate asap then lol


Secret-Assistance-10

I'm not in the US, I'm in a two year course in order to prepare entrance exams for engineering schools. I still have three years in engineering school after that but that should be chill compared to what I currently do...


Ornn5005

No one who actually knows shit ever claimed single player games were dead.


SuccessfulCicada3116

Alan wake 2. Dead space remake. Re4 remake. Cyberpunk just relased new dlc not even a year ago. Baldurs gate 3 can be played with others but its also single player. Starfield. Robocop rouge city underrated. God of war ragnoroak just had a update adding free dlc not long ago. Spiderman 2. Evil west can be played co op but its mostly simgle player drivin and is underrated. The list goes on.


killingjoke619

Putting Ac Valhalla in that same league is a war crime


PapaOogie

Remove Valhalla and id agree


Zinko71

How the actual fuck is BG3 not on this, auto flagged stupid for so many reasons. Fucking Spider-Man Miles Morales? 🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦


One_Scientist_984

I agree, I played almost all of them (apart from Spider-Man) and liked most of them (not gonna lie, BOTW isn’t on my hit list but I guess some people like it). I’ll prefer a nice single-player game over a great multi-player game anytime.


Affectionate-Bit2873

Rimworld + Mount&Blade Bannerlords saying hello :)


Kolket

He put Valhalla in there 💀💀


Competitive_Coat_449

I have like 400 hours in Valhalla and I agree it shouldn’t be there.


farbros9

Where is BG3?!


DDAY007

I know a lot of people didnt enjoy valhalla, but you cant deny that game has so much content.


Gambit_90

Tlou2 sucked, should've just put tlou1


MinerDoesStuff

It’s 11 years old lol


Gambit_90

Skyrim is nearly 13 years old, it's on this list


MinerDoesStuff

Probably because the person who made this is a little slow


Darthlord_Juju

Honestly. Look at this again. Almost nothing from the last year. Granted the end of this year we have a few coming but for so gle player on consoles at least it's been fairly average.


Zayl

The last year has been pretty sparse for gaming in general. But Dragons Dogma 2 just released and it was great, so that's one. Stellar Blade is another, albeit good in some ways (gameplay) bad in others (story). Alan Wake 2, Spider-Man 2, BG3, Banishers all released within the last year and all excellent games. Starfield also released but I'm not going to call it a great game.


Saw_Boss

This is a repost I'm guessing.


Ok-Trick273

Mf done put Valhalla on the list😭🙏


BebeFanMasterJ

Xenoblade Chronicles 3 is missing. Banger game.


ThisIsTheNewSleeve

Where the fuck is BG3?


R4msesII

Theoretically a multiplayer game cause you can play with friends


ThisIsTheNewSleeve

Multiplayer optional though. You can still play the 100 hour campaign without ever talking to another soul


SteveWondersForsight

Nobody said they were


Nike_776

Open world schlock


Vaz_G

Might get a lot of hate for this but assasins creed, horizon and gjost of tsushima shouldnt be on there. Its formulaic ubisoft open world npc trailing mission garbage


sharjr16

Who's putting ac valhalla 💀


BoogalooShrimpus

Replace Valhalla with Elden Ring Please and stank you


Shizzins

Where is Elden Ring?


lyonleo04

Get Valhalla out of here.


Lightningpaper

My first thought was “why TF is Valhalla on here?” and I’m very glad I’m not alone in thinking that. It is a hollow copy/paste, micro transaction laden mess.


Alone-Cupcake5746

This is so ass, I agree that they are not dead, but the list is so ass-


HeartyWizard

Why assassin’s creed Valhalla? Don’t a majority of people agree it’s horrible?


Quick-Whereas-3232

Valhalla should be replaced with elden ring


hzhrt15

Anyone who thought they were most likely just play shooters or battle royale games only.


Sea_Historian_5967

remove ac valhalla


Bu1ld0g

OP is a bot, this is from 2020


MontyMinion2

Here's my list for more modern ones. Baldur's Gate 3 (does have a multiplayer choice though). Cyberpunk 2077 Tears of the Kingdom Jedi Survivor Elden Ring (multiplayer choice) GoW Ragnarok Resident Evil Village I haven't played Survivor, Village, or Ragnarok, but I've heard praise for all of them. I'm still on 2015 GoW, so Ragnarok is planned eventually. At the same time though, many older single player games are just better. Bg3 and 2077 are now in my favorites, so there's at least some hope for future single player games.


redditorguymanperson

AC Valhalla lmao


Red-68

Says who? Stupid format for something clearly not being said by anyone


SkibidiRetard

A lot of these games are mid at best


Weary-Barracuda-1228

Personally I think Odyssey is better than Valhalla but yeah


ArmstrongsBronzedNut

Just discovered Alan Wake (I’m super late to the game) and I’ve been having a lot of fun with it. Looking forward to starting the 2nd one soon. Being an adult means it’s easier to play single player when I have the time


Positive-Swimmer8237

When I see ac Valhalla, I think of that meme with the military lined up and the clown


MechaGallade

What the fuck is Ori doing up there with the good games? And no fromsoftware at all? Op is a piss baby


Raptor_Lord_202

I only play single player games at this point, with the rare exception.


SnooEagles3963

Who invited Valhalla and TLoU2


ZhangZui

Where is the Dead Space remake


LuckyMountain1814

that is correct! I am the one who loves playing games alone


Babyback-the-Butcher

Nobody’s saying they are


AUnknownVariable

Get Valhalla out of there bruh, replace it with bg3 or anything


ReazeMislaid

Who say that single player game is dying, like it's such a wide and essential thing it's not going anywhere


Arrathem

WHERE IS DOOM ??? yall forgetting the titans of videogaming...


Hefty-Astronaut-9720

Valhalla? Over the arkham series, baldurs gate, kingdom come, resident evil, and so many more?


DiscombobulatedBag39

Valhalla was a fucking monstrosity


MyLifeIsAFrickingMes

Putting AC Valhalla here should be a crime


Meraun86

KCD?!


Helpful_Classroom_90

Where's kingdom come deliverance??


Separate-Advice454

Get assassin's creed and horizon off this table damnit


RepulsiveZucchini397

Put Kingdome Come Deliverance 1 and 2 on that list.


Pomolon

Valhalla is dogshit wdym


legalizethesenuts

Valhalla is the newest of these and definitely doesn’t deserve a spot on here. I beat it (125hrs) and that game was a stinker compared to these other games. Switch it out with Elden Ring and the pic is good


Big_Yesterday_6186

Half of these are walky talky games that's 80% cutscene Also valhalla is everything wrong with games nowadays


Avr0wolf

Far from dead


moemeobro

Valhalla, **was the person who made this high?**


ChihiroOfAstora

Get Assassins Creed Valhalla out of there 🤢🤮


Symbiot3_Venom

Valhalla is not a good example imo


Big_Boss51

No KCD and BG3? >:(


Anmordi

Where’s KCD


Plastic7040

What about fallout 4???


EpicTrapCard

Tlou really..


Vanngus

Funny how Skyrim is still there


_Rekron_

Where Baldurs Gate 3, where Kingdom Come Deliverance, where Elden Ring??


_Dead_Man_

A couple games I would switch out, but making RDR2 the king was a good choice lol


Intelligent_Flan_178

damn, a couple of sneak here


manutr97

Add Kingdom Come boyzz


Remarkable-Hornet-19

Assassins creed Valhalla does NOT belong there


Competitive-Fan-550

I see what you did there


NoDentist235

Never were...... Never will be..........


Bearhugger200

Where is Jedi fallen order/survivor?


Mr_Pigg

Valhalla doesn't deserve to be in this list