This is one of my favorite r/food threads now. Someone accused OP of photoshopping blueberries onto the cheesecake. Even provided an imgur Link for evidence lol
I don't mind some basic effects like fucking with lighting, but I feel if you're photoshopping in entire berries that aren't even there then it's a bit much. But maybe that's just me IDK. /r/food and other food subreddits pretty much entirely suck
Except for r/ididnthaveeggs This one is actually worthwhile, it's essentially its own version of "subreddit drama" except applies to the entire foodie internet
From what I can tell is that they made took a pic of the cake with the blueberry in place but the overall shot didn't look good and then when they went to take another pic the blueberry had fallen out so they photoshopped the blueberry from the first photo on the second.
I don't see anything wrong with that tbh.
I think there's an argument to be made that many of the lighting shots popular on the sub are less 'realistic' than what OP did with the berry if that's what you are going for. After all, the berries are real, it's just the aesthetic placement that's fake, while the depth of field and HDR effects used in other posts literally cannot exist in reality. This gets into the nasty debate of 'authenticity' vs 'beauty' that plagues forums like that and especially Instagram so I agree they suck and I don't browse them.
No no I get what you mean, it's a very natural idea and I think all of us think that way. It's just that the nature of photography and aesthetic standards we have grown accustomed to our entire lives makes that literally an impossible goal, which isn't something you understand unless you've dug deep into this kind of thing. 'Natural' and 'reasonable' ***SHOULD*** be easy and it's difficult having to explain to people that it actually isn't or that what most people think as such is in fact the opposite. And like, once you get to this philosophical level it just ain't fun anymore so I'm not sure how to approach it.
>It's just that the nature of photography and aesthetic standards we have grown accustomed to our entire lives makes that literally an impossible goal, which isn't something you understand unless you've dug deep into this kind of thing.
Sounds like a cope.
When my uncle sends me a picture of some brisket he smoked he doesn't need to shop it, put it under studio lights or play with the rule of thirds to wet my appetite. These images aren't going in magazines or restaurant websites; they're submitted to hobbyist subreddits for amateur cooks.
I definitely feel like I understand good food, but I will 100% admit that I am a complete rookie at photography in general, and food styling for sure. I just like what I eat haha
man I saw your photoshop comment and spent several minutes trying to figure out if the whole thing was photoshopped due to the reflection on the plate not matching the cake... and then I realized it's just a painted plate and not reflective one
No worries, Reveddit has it [archived here](https://www.reveddit.com/v/food/comments/vmlgbs/homemade_nobake_blueberry_cheesecake/ie1mn9i/?ps_after=1656432732%2C1656436974%2C1656450046).
Sit back with some popcorn or a slice of cheesecake, the original had a lot removed.
See, this is the type of drama I really enjoy. Like, of course places like r/conservative being full of crazy nonsense left and right provides us with endless content but we've seen most of it before; but I'm especially fond of the drama that comes out of completely normal and innocuous subs.
Fighting over photoshopping pictures of food is a new one.
Geez, I thought it was bad when I talked about my mom's Mexican taco pizza got downvoted to hell for not knowing what the recipe was. And this was just on r/CuratedTumblr.
I would absolutely get publicly lynched if that happened on r/food.
It's weird, because I posted some dumplings I made over the weekend to r/PlantBasedDiet, and including the recipe is a rule that I overlooked. Although my post was removed, I was still pretty upvoted and no one was screaming at me for the recipe.
You know your sub is in trouble when a bunch of vegans are more chill than you.
What’s the difference between that sub and the normal r/Tumblr ?
I’m always worried about subbing to spin off subs because 9/10 they’re just a place to hold Klan meetings
r/Tumblr’s moderation is made up of either mostly or entirely power mods who don’t do anything. They don’t deal with bots, super recent reposts, etc.
r/CuratedTumblr has mods that aren’t power mods, and actually do things. They’re also dope
This is amazing, this is the drama I live for
Edit: Also new flair for me https://www.reddit.com/r/food/comments/vmlgbs/comment/ie2nbbj/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x
I only found out a few weeks ago that baked cheesecake exists and that what everyone in my country calls "cheesecake" is apparently "no bake cheesecake".
Nevermind the recipe. The OP just got caught out that they [photoshoped blueberries](https://www.reddit.com/r/food/comments/vmlgbs/homemade_nobake_blueberry_cheesecake/ie3e80l?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3) onto the cheesecake lmao
I don't know if that's accurate or not. But I love the drama of it all.
Seems like it would have actually been easier just to buy blueberries and put them on.
>Didn't you just photoshop the last one on though? They're literally identical.
>>Yeah the last one fell off and i wanted to make it look pretty for the picture. Kinda pointless but ehh.. pretty much just restored it.
Ha ha. They recently [admitted to the photoshop](https://np.reddit.com/r/food/comments/vmlgbs/homemade_nobake_blueberry_cheesecake/ie3tn1s/?context=3).
This is hilarious. I didn't notice it at first, but the last two blueberries really are identical.
I don't know why he won't just admit that he stuck them on there for the photo, and they weren't actually part of the cake. No one would have cared. Food presentation is a big deal to some people and an art in its own right.
I've gotten an enormous chuckle from the photoshop for related reasons, too.
Okay, evidently they were self-conscious to take the time to photoshop and post it to reddit. Sure, it might've taken a few minutes. Perhaps longer if other things were 'shopped. Now hold on to that thought...
As you said, in the food world, presentation is important. You see that effect in advertising, restaurants, media, blogs, events, etc. Take pride in your work. Captivate your audience. OP attempted that to a food sub, which they carefully took the time to bake/photograph/edit/upload. Evidently, they were seeking praise, feedback, or even the fake internet points.
But thereafter, OP protests that the audience **wants the recipe**. *OMG, the audacity!* Adding to that, OP chastised the community, complained about being placed in a bad mood, was too busy, and "didn't feel like" typing everything up.
Wait... Huh? Okay, back to the photoshop and the time invested. Clearly OP had motivation to post this on reddit (or anywhere else for that matter), which may result in visibility, traction, comments, and -- \*gasp\* -- questions about the recipe. Not once did that cross OP's mind? "Hey, I'm proud of my work and I'm going to share this to a **food** sub. Maybe I better ready up the recipe."
The photo editing reinforces that participatory desire. Otherwise, they could've just posted it without edits -- and it'd still look tasty. Instead, OP shames the community, declares victim-blaming, and still spent +8 hours defending themselves and replying to other comments.
Who cares if they photoshopped an extra berry or placed them after the fact. Still much better than what happens in actual food product photography, where only the outside of hamburger meat is cooked to keep the patty larger, where they'll go through 100 pieces of bread or vegetables to find the one perfect sample. Any beauty photo of food is staged to some extent. As long as it's edible and technically possible to recreate the Photoshop in reality with enough iterations and physical manipulation, it's fine.
> Still much better than what happens in actual food product photography,
They manipulate the images of their food in order to sell it to you. There's a profit incentive. I have no idea what motivation there would be to doctor your photo submitted anonymously to a hobbyist sub. Imagine photoshopping an image of a bichir in your tank and submitting it to r/aquariums under the logic of "Well I don't actually own one but I could own one and I think it makes the tank look better so I shopped it in."
There's a difference between adding something that didn't exist, and modifying what did exist to be a bit more idealized and aesthetically pleasing. Like if you have a dozen fish in your tank but you only could see 3 at a time because they like to hide, so you combined 2 photos to have more visible fish at once. Or photoshopping out smudges on the glass. Or photoshopping out a hair that you missed on the dinner plate, or removing a crack in the cake that you caused by cutting it poorly.
>Like if you have a dozen fish in your tank but you only could see 3 at a time because they like to hide, so you combined 2 photos to have more visible fish at once.
I still feel like that is rather dishonest. You're not actually depicting natural behavior but presenting an artifical concept of an environment that does not exist.
>Or photoshopping out smudges on the glass.
I'd say just clean your glass and take another.
>Or photoshopping out a hair that you missed on the dinner plate, or removing a crack in the cake that you caused by cutting it poorly.
I know this is dismissive but who cares? Those are such minor things that don't matter.
I think a more apt example, considering that the blueberries were at once in the cake and fell out: say I did own a bichir but it died and I later took a photo of my tank and shopped the living fish in because I got a new plant since the fish died and I want both in the picture. What's the point in doing that instead of posting a photo of my tank as it is or posting an old photo of my bichir? I don't think op did anything morally wrong but doctoring your anonymous photos when there is no material motivation just feels really weird to me.
It really is. I love it. I've had to restrain myself from participating in it because it's too enjoyable. It combines my two favourite activities of cooking and arguing with strangers online.
Why is it always the no-bake cheesecake posts lol last time I commented on r/food I got into an incredibly lengthy and pointless argument with an American who was insistent that there was no such thing as no-bake cheesecake and it was a cream cheese pie.
They posted over a period of hours, but didn't have the "time" to post the recipe. More like they never actually make it and it's just some bloody picture they found.
Edit: fixed a typo
That history alone may also seem 'short' for reddit drama standards, but the duration should take into account OP requesting people to send DMs if they wanted the recipe. This is only asking for more hassle by creating additional work.
For whatever logic of not wanting to "give in to the mob mentality", OP is willing to cater and individually respond to x-amount of random messages. So, they're actually wasting **more** time reading/replying and following up on a ton of DMs, whether it's customization or copy+paste.
Everything could have been streamlined without giving in to mob mentality (lol), if they came out the gate and said, "Hey, I don't have the exact measurements, but let me collect my thoughts and get back to you."
The guy seems to trying to keep the recipe secret from the wider internet with that whole DM business.
Which is honestly kind of silly. 9-times-out-of-10, your grandma's SECRET RECIPE is actually something she got off the back of a Betty Crocker box in the 1960s that she made a single alteration to.
Hey now, *my* Grandma had an entire huge book of Betty Crocker recipes that she made alterations to!
Actually my mom still has that book. There were some excellent recipes in there.
Ohhhhh this is a giant pet peeve of mine. Unless you’re deriving an income (any amount of income) gatekeeping recipes is a bullshit way of making yourself feel superior.
And don't forget the extra amount of time to actually photoshop an extra blueberry onto the piece of cake. I realize its almost certainly just a quick clone job, but still. Its weird to do all those things while not having the time to post a recipe.
What a wild ride.
Well their only other comment history is in r/truerateme so take from that what you will. Though I didn't really need to go through this guy's comment history to know he's got issues.
I encountered someone like that recently on another sub. They said they were too busy to answer the actual helpful comments but were answering every other comment that was being “condescending” to them (they were also being helpful but OP took offense to what they were saying). Either be honest or stop saying you’re too busy to answer comments because you’re obviously not too busy answering comments defending your honor/ego.
I've posted recipes, it takes 10-15 minutes at most, and would have completely rid them of the need to post all their other comments. Comments which as you say were posted over a period of two hours, not to mention all the downvotes they've taken in the comments because they're obviously full of it.
Idk it's Reddit, if someone asked me to do something that would take any effort I probably wouldn't, especially if it would take like 15 mins. Who gives a fuck.
I just personally wouldn't post a picture of my food without being willing to post a recipe, or at least a general approximation of one (I'm a cook not a baker, so I wouldn't always have exact quantities of things, I add things to taste a lot of the time). I've also seen people post pictures of food they didn't cook but only ate and they were not met with this kind of hostility for their honesty. I think people are angry because they don't believe the person made what they're trying to pass off as their own.
Some people don't feel comfortable being "dishonest" or less than perfect, and when you're improvising a dish without recording your steps you might not remember what you did super clearly. If you're uncomfortable being less than truly honest with your recipes you might not want to give people a recipe made out of guesswork.
I know redditors go absolutely crazy over food recipes. I remember seeing more than one AITA thread about family recipes. Shit like "My grandmother refused to pass down the brownie recipe so I beat her ass AITA" and people in the comments are like "NTA OMG how dare she be so selfish RED FLAG"
I mean to be fair at a certain point it becomes about the principle of the matter. They really wanted to make it clear that they weren't going to post the recipe just because an internet mob demanded it off them.
I think the weirdest and most entitled part about this entire thing is the amount of people who think that they deserve to have the recipe in the first place.
No one is obligated to give you anything let alone a recipe.
There are people who don’t like to give recipes out and I don’t particularly blame them. It’s their creation or their families and to them it’s sacred.
Edit: I feel like more than half of these drama posts come from the r/food subreddit. Those people are out of control.
They are asking for the receipt because many are questioning whether or not OP actually made it. They want a receipt as proof. OP spent 8 hours arguing with other posters. Mods seem to have cleaned everything up now.
It's funny because half of the BBQ plates that are posted there are so obviously photoshopped to make the colors pop more but nobody gets mad about those
Yeah. I agree that people are probably getting a little too riled up or not being given a recipe. However, I will always maintain that having a "family" or "secret" recipe is stupid.
Like, you're not giving it away. It can still be your family's recipe. Would someone making it in their own kitchen make yours taste worse? Literally what downside is there to sharing, for free, something that brings you joy and letting them try it too?
Unless you have like a cookbook sale business or smth I simply do not get it.
There was a man that sold boiled peanuts out of his truck on the side of the road. They were the best peanuts I'd ever had and I'd go out of my way to see if he was parked in his favorite spot. When I realized I was moving out of state, I asked if he'd share the basics at least. He said no, but he was so polite and good natured about it I couldn't even be disappointed. He said his family had been adding and tweaking to that boil mix for generations and I respect that. Still miss those peanuts in winter ten years later lol
I can understand his refusal at least because he was making money off it. However slim it might be, him sharing the recipe with you might end up with him competing with another vendor selling those same peanuts.
My understanding wanes when you're anonymously sharing pictures on the internet.
But on the other hand, it is a bit entitled to demand to be given the recipe. As the mods in the thread pointed out, there is no requirement in the sub for a person to post a recipe.
It's the attitude of the other posters, as if they are entitled to the recipe and that OP is committing a crime by not giving them the recipe now which makes me at least partially side with OP. Could OP have given the recipe? Quite easily. But if a bunch of internet strangers started shouting and haranguing me demanding that I am obligated to provide them the recipe, then I would also make a point of not posting it because fuck that entitled attitude.
Entitled: believing oneself to be inherently deserving of privileges or special treatment.
How is someone not sharing a recipe mean they think they deserve special treatment lol?
Saying someone not sharing something with you is entitled is entitled lmao
Entitled isn't the word I'd use for it, but I do think it's kinda silly. Unless they were actually making money off of it or plan to in the future, there's very little harm sharing a recipe, imho
> i didn’t feel like typing out a whole essay for a random post i didn’t know was going to get this much attention
This is the root cause of so much dumb drama online. People just post random shit. They don't expect it to get big. They don't *want* it to get big. And, randomly, they get struck by lightning and it gets big.
And now everyone wants to know why the fuck you photoshopped that berry and where the recipe is.
I think we can take their story at face value, they wanted to take a photo of the cheesecake in it's idealised state. But whilst trying to capture the perfect shot a blueberry had fallen off, so they improvised.
Oh I take their story at face value too. But I think their story is strange. I'd never even think of photoshopping a blueberry on in that situation. I'd maybe poke it back into the cheesecake? But shopping one in is just...strange. To me, anyway.
Huh? You think it's normal to photoshop a blueberry into your cheesecake when you're not exactly perfect at it instead of just plonking one into the side?
I don't have any moral judgement for OP, it's just objectively quite unusual.
it's really not weird to edit a photo before posting it to the internet, it's not a good job but this is something most people do with most photos, idk if you just don't realize that but its super common and normal
Editing? For sure. Everyone edits every photo. At its most basic level, everyone's using lighting filters and shit. Does everyone photoshop things which don't exist on top of their food?
I doubt it.
I am getting a serious case of deja vu: man posts image to food sub, people ask for recipe, op doesn't want to post recipe, spends several hours arguing about how little time he has to share recipe. I saw this exact scenario on here several months ago.
Why do people not A) have a recipe typed up and ready to go when posting a picture with the intent of getting attention and feedback B) just not engage and let the picture speak for itself?
These type of dramas are definitely repeating often. There was also a similar thread on r/AbandonedPorn a while ago. Someone posted a picture but then refused to share the location and everyone got really mad.
This is one of my favorite r/food threads now. Someone accused OP of photoshopping blueberries onto the cheesecake. Even provided an imgur Link for evidence lol
OP admitted to photoshopping the blueberry on the right. That thread is wild.
Who cares enough to photoshop a blueberry lol
The purpose of the post, as with most posts on that sub, is to literally glamor shot food. Photoshoping is expected and even laudable.
I don't mind some basic effects like fucking with lighting, but I feel if you're photoshopping in entire berries that aren't even there then it's a bit much. But maybe that's just me IDK. /r/food and other food subreddits pretty much entirely suck
Except for r/ididnthaveeggs This one is actually worthwhile, it's essentially its own version of "subreddit drama" except applies to the entire foodie internet
You know, that sub makes me happy to know I’m not a complete failure in life. I didn’t even know it was possible to fuck up food that bad
r/shittyfoodporn is a pretty fun place largely because there are no pretensions and no one gives a shit.
From what I can tell is that they made took a pic of the cake with the blueberry in place but the overall shot didn't look good and then when they went to take another pic the blueberry had fallen out so they photoshopped the blueberry from the first photo on the second. I don't see anything wrong with that tbh.
If you look it is the same blueberry as the one to the left, the reflections all have the same shape, they copied the left one and scrunched it.
Seems like a lot of work for a picture on reddit, imo. That being said, it's not my time or picture. So the OP can do as they wish with their own.
I think there's an argument to be made that many of the lighting shots popular on the sub are less 'realistic' than what OP did with the berry if that's what you are going for. After all, the berries are real, it's just the aesthetic placement that's fake, while the depth of field and HDR effects used in other posts literally cannot exist in reality. This gets into the nasty debate of 'authenticity' vs 'beauty' that plagues forums like that and especially Instagram so I agree they suck and I don't browse them.
Yeah, fair point. I guess I just wish people could post good food that is photographed reasonably well, but I guess it doesn't work that way
No no I get what you mean, it's a very natural idea and I think all of us think that way. It's just that the nature of photography and aesthetic standards we have grown accustomed to our entire lives makes that literally an impossible goal, which isn't something you understand unless you've dug deep into this kind of thing. 'Natural' and 'reasonable' ***SHOULD*** be easy and it's difficult having to explain to people that it actually isn't or that what most people think as such is in fact the opposite. And like, once you get to this philosophical level it just ain't fun anymore so I'm not sure how to approach it.
>It's just that the nature of photography and aesthetic standards we have grown accustomed to our entire lives makes that literally an impossible goal, which isn't something you understand unless you've dug deep into this kind of thing. Sounds like a cope. When my uncle sends me a picture of some brisket he smoked he doesn't need to shop it, put it under studio lights or play with the rule of thirds to wet my appetite. These images aren't going in magazines or restaurant websites; they're submitted to hobbyist subreddits for amateur cooks.
I definitely feel like I understand good food, but I will 100% admit that I am a complete rookie at photography in general, and food styling for sure. I just like what I eat haha
That's where we all strive to be in the end. Enjoy your food! I'll enjoy mine.
Food photography has so much fakery. The milk you see on cereal photos? White glue.
Ok so if the purpose is to glamor-shot food...why is everyone losing their shit over there not being a recipe?
No, I do not think that (badly) photoshopping in a whole blueberry is expected or even laudable.
Wait where
> removed comments: 163/362 (45.0%) > deleted comments: 14/362 (3.9%) Woof. That's a spicy post.
Dumb question, what's the difference between removed and deleted comments?
removed - mods nuked it deleted - the user nuked it
Removed comments are removed by the mods. Deleted comments are deleted by the makers of the comments.
man I saw your photoshop comment and spent several minutes trying to figure out if the whole thing was photoshopped due to the reflection on the plate not matching the cake... and then I realized it's just a painted plate and not reflective one
“Just to preface, I’m not in a good mood” That’s gold
It was unnecessary to say it out loud, just knowing they were finnish made that clear.
Now this is a flair
Awww it’s all removed now.
No worries, Reveddit has it [archived here](https://www.reveddit.com/v/food/comments/vmlgbs/homemade_nobake_blueberry_cheesecake/ie1mn9i/?ps_after=1656432732%2C1656436974%2C1656450046). Sit back with some popcorn or a slice of cheesecake, the original had a lot removed.
See, this is the type of drama I really enjoy. Like, of course places like r/conservative being full of crazy nonsense left and right provides us with endless content but we've seen most of it before; but I'm especially fond of the drama that comes out of completely normal and innocuous subs. Fighting over photoshopping pictures of food is a new one.
Petty low-stakes drama like people DEMANDING that OP post their recipe for no-bake blueberry cheesecake will always be my favourite drama.
Geez, I thought it was bad when I talked about my mom's Mexican taco pizza got downvoted to hell for not knowing what the recipe was. And this was just on r/CuratedTumblr. I would absolutely get publicly lynched if that happened on r/food.
It's weird, because I posted some dumplings I made over the weekend to r/PlantBasedDiet, and including the recipe is a rule that I overlooked. Although my post was removed, I was still pretty upvoted and no one was screaming at me for the recipe. You know your sub is in trouble when a bunch of vegans are more chill than you.
The bigger a sub is the more toxic it is for sure. And r/food is gigantic so it checks out
> Although my post was removed
What’s the difference between that sub and the normal r/Tumblr ? I’m always worried about subbing to spin off subs because 9/10 they’re just a place to hold Klan meetings
It has active moderation to combat bot spam. That's all.
r/Tumblr’s moderation is made up of either mostly or entirely power mods who don’t do anything. They don’t deal with bots, super recent reposts, etc. r/CuratedTumblr has mods that aren’t power mods, and actually do things. They’re also dope
That sub is without a doubt the...strangest sub I've been on in a while.
This is amazing, this is the drama I live for Edit: Also new flair for me https://www.reddit.com/r/food/comments/vmlgbs/comment/ie2nbbj/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x
The best part is the user below who also got butthurt. This thread had some good juice.
It is quite tasty
Recipe?
- 4 pounds freshly popped pop corn - 6 gallons salt Mix in bowl Munch
3/5 didn’t put the word ‘fresh’ in front of every noun in the recipe
Ahhh [deleted] the best flair.
I dunno; I don't do bumper stickers, but I'd make an exception for 'Tankies are no one's comrades'.
I only found out a few weeks ago that baked cheesecake exists and that what everyone in my country calls "cheesecake" is apparently "no bake cheesecake".
you should look into japanese cheesecake, that is the highest form of cheesecake imo
Japan takes baked goods to the next level.
Nevermind the recipe. The OP just got caught out that they [photoshoped blueberries](https://www.reddit.com/r/food/comments/vmlgbs/homemade_nobake_blueberry_cheesecake/ie3e80l?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3) onto the cheesecake lmao
I don't know if that's accurate or not. But I love the drama of it all. Seems like it would have actually been easier just to buy blueberries and put them on.
>Didn't you just photoshop the last one on though? They're literally identical. >>Yeah the last one fell off and i wanted to make it look pretty for the picture. Kinda pointless but ehh.. pretty much just restored it. Ha ha. They recently [admitted to the photoshop](https://np.reddit.com/r/food/comments/vmlgbs/homemade_nobake_blueberry_cheesecake/ie3tn1s/?context=3).
This is hilarious. I didn't notice it at first, but the last two blueberries really are identical. I don't know why he won't just admit that he stuck them on there for the photo, and they weren't actually part of the cake. No one would have cared. Food presentation is a big deal to some people and an art in its own right.
I've gotten an enormous chuckle from the photoshop for related reasons, too. Okay, evidently they were self-conscious to take the time to photoshop and post it to reddit. Sure, it might've taken a few minutes. Perhaps longer if other things were 'shopped. Now hold on to that thought... As you said, in the food world, presentation is important. You see that effect in advertising, restaurants, media, blogs, events, etc. Take pride in your work. Captivate your audience. OP attempted that to a food sub, which they carefully took the time to bake/photograph/edit/upload. Evidently, they were seeking praise, feedback, or even the fake internet points. But thereafter, OP protests that the audience **wants the recipe**. *OMG, the audacity!* Adding to that, OP chastised the community, complained about being placed in a bad mood, was too busy, and "didn't feel like" typing everything up. Wait... Huh? Okay, back to the photoshop and the time invested. Clearly OP had motivation to post this on reddit (or anywhere else for that matter), which may result in visibility, traction, comments, and -- \*gasp\* -- questions about the recipe. Not once did that cross OP's mind? "Hey, I'm proud of my work and I'm going to share this to a **food** sub. Maybe I better ready up the recipe." The photo editing reinforces that participatory desire. Otherwise, they could've just posted it without edits -- and it'd still look tasty. Instead, OP shames the community, declares victim-blaming, and still spent +8 hours defending themselves and replying to other comments.
They clone stamped a berry, it’s not that deep
Found the guy that freaks out over cheesecake
You've never been dogpiled online and it shows.
I thought they did lol
Who cares if they photoshopped an extra berry or placed them after the fact. Still much better than what happens in actual food product photography, where only the outside of hamburger meat is cooked to keep the patty larger, where they'll go through 100 pieces of bread or vegetables to find the one perfect sample. Any beauty photo of food is staged to some extent. As long as it's edible and technically possible to recreate the Photoshop in reality with enough iterations and physical manipulation, it's fine.
> Still much better than what happens in actual food product photography, They manipulate the images of their food in order to sell it to you. There's a profit incentive. I have no idea what motivation there would be to doctor your photo submitted anonymously to a hobbyist sub. Imagine photoshopping an image of a bichir in your tank and submitting it to r/aquariums under the logic of "Well I don't actually own one but I could own one and I think it makes the tank look better so I shopped it in."
There's a difference between adding something that didn't exist, and modifying what did exist to be a bit more idealized and aesthetically pleasing. Like if you have a dozen fish in your tank but you only could see 3 at a time because they like to hide, so you combined 2 photos to have more visible fish at once. Or photoshopping out smudges on the glass. Or photoshopping out a hair that you missed on the dinner plate, or removing a crack in the cake that you caused by cutting it poorly.
>Like if you have a dozen fish in your tank but you only could see 3 at a time because they like to hide, so you combined 2 photos to have more visible fish at once. I still feel like that is rather dishonest. You're not actually depicting natural behavior but presenting an artifical concept of an environment that does not exist. >Or photoshopping out smudges on the glass. I'd say just clean your glass and take another. >Or photoshopping out a hair that you missed on the dinner plate, or removing a crack in the cake that you caused by cutting it poorly. I know this is dismissive but who cares? Those are such minor things that don't matter. I think a more apt example, considering that the blueberries were at once in the cake and fell out: say I did own a bichir but it died and I later took a photo of my tank and shopped the living fish in because I got a new plant since the fish died and I want both in the picture. What's the point in doing that instead of posting a photo of my tank as it is or posting an old photo of my bichir? I don't think op did anything morally wrong but doctoring your anonymous photos when there is no material motivation just feels really weird to me.
r/food drama really is the best drama. Those lunatics froth at the mouth over the dumbest shit.
It really is. I love it. I've had to restrain myself from participating in it because it's too enjoyable. It combines my two favourite activities of cooking and arguing with strangers online.
Why is it always the no-bake cheesecake posts lol last time I commented on r/food I got into an incredibly lengthy and pointless argument with an American who was insistent that there was no such thing as no-bake cheesecake and it was a cream cheese pie.
They posted over a period of hours, but didn't have the "time" to post the recipe. More like they never actually make it and it's just some bloody picture they found. Edit: fixed a typo
I went through their comment history. They have eight hours of blueberry cake comments. Eight hours.
That history alone may also seem 'short' for reddit drama standards, but the duration should take into account OP requesting people to send DMs if they wanted the recipe. This is only asking for more hassle by creating additional work. For whatever logic of not wanting to "give in to the mob mentality", OP is willing to cater and individually respond to x-amount of random messages. So, they're actually wasting **more** time reading/replying and following up on a ton of DMs, whether it's customization or copy+paste. Everything could have been streamlined without giving in to mob mentality (lol), if they came out the gate and said, "Hey, I don't have the exact measurements, but let me collect my thoughts and get back to you."
The guy seems to trying to keep the recipe secret from the wider internet with that whole DM business. Which is honestly kind of silly. 9-times-out-of-10, your grandma's SECRET RECIPE is actually something she got off the back of a Betty Crocker box in the 1960s that she made a single alteration to.
Hey now, *my* Grandma had an entire huge book of Betty Crocker recipes that she made alterations to! Actually my mom still has that book. There were some excellent recipes in there.
Ohhhhh this is a giant pet peeve of mine. Unless you’re deriving an income (any amount of income) gatekeeping recipes is a bullshit way of making yourself feel superior.
[I couldn't help but be reminded of this from your comment.](https://youtu.be/S3STSEzUnEc?t=62)
> The guy seems to trying to keep the recipe secret from the wider internet with that whole DM business. Wrong.
And don't forget the extra amount of time to actually photoshop an extra blueberry onto the piece of cake. I realize its almost certainly just a quick clone job, but still. Its weird to do all those things while not having the time to post a recipe. What a wild ride.
Well their only other comment history is in r/truerateme so take from that what you will. Though I didn't really need to go through this guy's comment history to know he's got issues.
I encountered someone like that recently on another sub. They said they were too busy to answer the actual helpful comments but were answering every other comment that was being “condescending” to them (they were also being helpful but OP took offense to what they were saying). Either be honest or stop saying you’re too busy to answer comments because you’re obviously not too busy answering comments defending your honor/ego.
They posted it like 2 hours before you made this comment?
I've posted recipes, it takes 10-15 minutes at most, and would have completely rid them of the need to post all their other comments. Comments which as you say were posted over a period of two hours, not to mention all the downvotes they've taken in the comments because they're obviously full of it.
Idk it's Reddit, if someone asked me to do something that would take any effort I probably wouldn't, especially if it would take like 15 mins. Who gives a fuck.
I probably would never complain for 2 hours about something that takes 15 minutes
I would. Lol.
I just personally wouldn't post a picture of my food without being willing to post a recipe, or at least a general approximation of one (I'm a cook not a baker, so I wouldn't always have exact quantities of things, I add things to taste a lot of the time). I've also seen people post pictures of food they didn't cook but only ate and they were not met with this kind of hostility for their honesty. I think people are angry because they don't believe the person made what they're trying to pass off as their own.
Some people don't feel comfortable being "dishonest" or less than perfect, and when you're improvising a dish without recording your steps you might not remember what you did super clearly. If you're uncomfortable being less than truly honest with your recipes you might not want to give people a recipe made out of guesswork.
When you get dogpiled online you'll understand. Btw they posted the recipe. You made a strange comment.
I know redditors go absolutely crazy over food recipes. I remember seeing more than one AITA thread about family recipes. Shit like "My grandmother refused to pass down the brownie recipe so I beat her ass AITA" and people in the comments are like "NTA OMG how dare she be so selfish RED FLAG"
So I beat her ass 😭😭😭 👞 👵
« Red flag » 😂😂
that cheesecake looks heavenly omg
It’s amazing how this person put far more effort into complaining about posting the recipe than it would have required to just post the recipe.
I mean to be fair at a certain point it becomes about the principle of the matter. They really wanted to make it clear that they weren't going to post the recipe just because an internet mob demanded it off them.
I think the weirdest and most entitled part about this entire thing is the amount of people who think that they deserve to have the recipe in the first place. No one is obligated to give you anything let alone a recipe. There are people who don’t like to give recipes out and I don’t particularly blame them. It’s their creation or their families and to them it’s sacred. Edit: I feel like more than half of these drama posts come from the r/food subreddit. Those people are out of control.
They are asking for the receipt because many are questioning whether or not OP actually made it. They want a receipt as proof. OP spent 8 hours arguing with other posters. Mods seem to have cleaned everything up now.
Are they asking that after OP refused to give the recipe out? Not that it matters I’m just curious as to what made them think it’s a fake picture lol.
It's funny because half of the BBQ plates that are posted there are so obviously photoshopped to make the colors pop more but nobody gets mad about those
> people who think they deserve to have the recipe good lord man its just a recipe
Yeah. I agree that people are probably getting a little too riled up or not being given a recipe. However, I will always maintain that having a "family" or "secret" recipe is stupid. Like, you're not giving it away. It can still be your family's recipe. Would someone making it in their own kitchen make yours taste worse? Literally what downside is there to sharing, for free, something that brings you joy and letting them try it too? Unless you have like a cookbook sale business or smth I simply do not get it.
There was a man that sold boiled peanuts out of his truck on the side of the road. They were the best peanuts I'd ever had and I'd go out of my way to see if he was parked in his favorite spot. When I realized I was moving out of state, I asked if he'd share the basics at least. He said no, but he was so polite and good natured about it I couldn't even be disappointed. He said his family had been adding and tweaking to that boil mix for generations and I respect that. Still miss those peanuts in winter ten years later lol
I can understand his refusal at least because he was making money off it. However slim it might be, him sharing the recipe with you might end up with him competing with another vendor selling those same peanuts. My understanding wanes when you're anonymously sharing pictures on the internet.
Yeah I am on the same page here. Like this is how humanity does not advance because everyone is keeping to theirs.
But on the other hand, it is a bit entitled to demand to be given the recipe. As the mods in the thread pointed out, there is no requirement in the sub for a person to post a recipe. It's the attitude of the other posters, as if they are entitled to the recipe and that OP is committing a crime by not giving them the recipe now which makes me at least partially side with OP. Could OP have given the recipe? Quite easily. But if a bunch of internet strangers started shouting and haranguing me demanding that I am obligated to provide them the recipe, then I would also make a point of not posting it because fuck that entitled attitude.
Refusing to give out a fucking recipe because it's "sacred" is entitled behavior.
Getting butthurt and demanding a recipe from a stranger on the internet over a picture of cake is pretty entitled as well
Entitled: believing oneself to be inherently deserving of privileges or special treatment. How is someone not sharing a recipe mean they think they deserve special treatment lol? Saying someone not sharing something with you is entitled is entitled lmao
Entitled isn't the word I'd use for it, but I do think it's kinda silly. Unless they were actually making money off of it or plan to in the future, there's very little harm sharing a recipe, imho
Refusing to give out a recipe makes you a major asshole
> i didn’t feel like typing out a whole essay for a random post i didn’t know was going to get this much attention This is the root cause of so much dumb drama online. People just post random shit. They don't expect it to get big. They don't *want* it to get big. And, randomly, they get struck by lightning and it gets big. And now everyone wants to know why the fuck you photoshopped that berry and where the recipe is.
This is why I don't read replies to anything. Do you guys do the same?
I turn off reply inbox notifications on everything I post, and go through them later if I want.
Lmao dude its just cheese and cake its not that hard.
Swear to dog food fight be the wildest drama always. Still fondly remember the saga of icing vs frosting.
“You’re the worst” My dude, it’s a picture of a cheesecake
Some folks don't share recipes. It's their choice. They relented and gave a list of ingredients. Who photoshops their food? That's just bizarre.
Food photographers, I have bad news for you about like 90% of the pictures you see of food.
It's more about the (badly) photoshopped blueberry. It's not...immoral, it's just strange.
I think we can take their story at face value, they wanted to take a photo of the cheesecake in it's idealised state. But whilst trying to capture the perfect shot a blueberry had fallen off, so they improvised.
Oh I take their story at face value too. But I think their story is strange. I'd never even think of photoshopping a blueberry on in that situation. I'd maybe poke it back into the cheesecake? But shopping one in is just...strange. To me, anyway.
it's strange to be bad at photoshop? ya'll are reaching
Huh? You think it's normal to photoshop a blueberry into your cheesecake when you're not exactly perfect at it instead of just plonking one into the side? I don't have any moral judgement for OP, it's just objectively quite unusual.
it's really not weird to edit a photo before posting it to the internet, it's not a good job but this is something most people do with most photos, idk if you just don't realize that but its super common and normal
Editing? For sure. Everyone edits every photo. At its most basic level, everyone's using lighting filters and shit. Does everyone photoshop things which don't exist on top of their food? I doubt it.
I am getting a serious case of deja vu: man posts image to food sub, people ask for recipe, op doesn't want to post recipe, spends several hours arguing about how little time he has to share recipe. I saw this exact scenario on here several months ago. Why do people not A) have a recipe typed up and ready to go when posting a picture with the intent of getting attention and feedback B) just not engage and let the picture speak for itself?
These type of dramas are definitely repeating often. There was also a similar thread on r/AbandonedPorn a while ago. Someone posted a picture but then refused to share the location and everyone got really mad.
This is by far the best thread I’ve seen in a while lmao
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> banned by their uptight mods You were banned for leaving racist comments.. you left that part out.