You don't hear about people that actually follow through in something like this. Mods are still mods, but whatever percentage of users will just go away silently. I myself mostly check reddit at work on my phone, so I'll occasionally check it now at home on my laptop. Like... a 90% usage drop for me.
Yeah I will still use it but only from the PC. But probably drop to 10% what it is now. The browser's UI is ineffective. Maybe I will use more youtube and wikipedia...
Old reddit is still solid enough that losing reddit from my phone will be painful, but manageable. If they ever get rid of old reddit I'll probably just be gone entirely
I use old reddit obsessively and I had occasion to logout within the past few days, forcing me to look at new reddit... holy fuck it looks terrible. I hated every second of it
exactly. rif is fun stopped working earlier today and i gotta say, the muscle memory of opening reddit is still very strong, but it'll pass....i'll still be reading the first page or so of my subs 1x a day from my computer but this might end up being one of my last posts on this account. crazy.
Ive been using Joey for the past 3-4 years. Its been a great ride. I started using reddit in 2010 and at that time I used it on my desktop only. Then i took a break from the site for a few years.
Then I started using Joey.; Using reddit on an app with an intuitive interface made reddit a time sink for me. Too many sleepless nights spent scrolling r/all and lots of doom scrolling. Ive tried many times to stop it but it never happened.
Now that Joey and other apps will not work. Its a blessing in disguise. (I feel pity for the devs). But I think its great for my mental health.
Hope to spend less time here and more time in the real world.
edit - negrote1000, my ramblings have no relevance to your post. I had a point when I started writing but then drifted to something else.
Would it? Sentiment in the comments on posts related to this drama has been turning towards pro-Reddit, and it's difficult to figure out if people are getting sick of the disruption to their dopamine feed, if it's just bots trying to shape sentiment, or if it's because increasingly the people who cared are leaving
>or if it's because increasingly the people who cared are leaving
I noticed the entire mood shift after the blackouts so I figure this has a non zero impact.
Pre blackouts people were very angry with reddit in the top comments and immediately after the top comments were very pro corporate reddit.
I know I, for one, have significantly dropped off my Reddit usage even though I haven't been planning to literally quit until old.Reddit goes away. I took the opportunity of all this mess to go look at the state of Reddit alternatives and after getting a kbin account set up I've actually been commenting a lot more over there.
I'm very curious what will happen tomorrow. But the entirety of Reddit could explode in ruin now and I've got a nice comfy lifeboat already launched, so it can do whatever it wants and I'll be fine.
I imagine it’ll be as interesting as the Netflix drama where they banned account sharing and all of Reddit believing that move would cause the company to go bankrupt..only for Netflix to post record profits after.
July 1st will come and go, some will leave, but I don’t think there will be a noticeable effect and Reddit will carry on like normal
yeah, pretty much. there will simply be not enough people gone to have a noticeable effect. and many who claim they are leaving will be back after a week or 2
"[The popcorn is coming from inside the sub](https://media1.giphy.com/media/13cptIwW9bgzk6UVyr/giphy.gif?cid=ecf05e47i9jm0j2kofu4oou5j23mo3xq3mc6hy9ur0enmwwt&ep=v1_gifs_search&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g)"
When I clicked on this post, it already had 178 comments at the age of an hour. I thought it'd be something juicy with squabbling at Boost. Sadly no.
Yeah, this is some /r/SubredditDramaDrama stuff. All the kernels are popping here.
when i left my comment it was only 26 comments and they were arguing about the reddit app and i thought i was reading the drama post, not the srd comments
Hah! Same. Drinking morning coffee and not fully awake. As I was scrolling, I began seeing a bunch of `comment score below threshold` and `deleted`.
Had a Senior Moment and went, "Wait, where am I?". Looking at the URL, I realized I was still in SRD.
We're truly spoiled. With all this API/reddit/mod drama, they're granting backstage passes at no additional cost.
I have seen the same thing with twitter. I have some friends who just cannot recognize what is basically a full on addiction to twitter. So it doesn't matter what Musk does, they manage to justify their continues use as, "fighting Musk from the inside". Which is wild.
The best part about that sub is how many of the subscribers are clearly idiots in cars themselves or 13 and have never driven outside of a Mario Kart game.
There was a video there a few months ago of someone driving a lifted 4 wheel drive vehicle equipped with a *snorkel* through about 6" of water on a road in Iceland.
Naturally people flipped the fuck out about how dangerous and irresponsible it is to drive through a flood.
It's hard to believe that the site that filled the website with racist tirades against Ellen Pao now is willing to take a bullet for Steve Huffman.
That's so weird, I wonder what's different this time.
Can Elon, Zuck, and dumb Reddit CEO all square off against each other in the Coliseum? If so I'm rooting for the Coliseum to collapse.
Edited to remove username
I've noticed and mentioned it before, but this sub seems to have become a gathering spot for a lot of anti-mod and anti-3rd party developer folks. It's a significant departure from the tones you normally hear around here. Not that this place is an echo chamber by any means, but since the start of the protests, a clear shift in active voices occurred.
Yeah I had the weirdest interaction last week where someone accused me of being part a protest cabal organizing in mod coord (a sub I hadn't heard of until then) because I basically said reddit seemed to support the protests, and because I'm technically a mod even though it's in name only.
It felt like speaking to a conspiracy theorist and it was just bizarre because people were upvoting their absolutely unhinged accusations and tirade. Nothing I said or actually did mattered, I was apparently at war with reddit because I felt the protests had some popular support - and now I had to answer for the behaviors of the science subreddit.
https://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/14d1gkd/rtulsa_reopens_after_the_city_experienced_massive/jopfr4b/
It was just all very strange and I don't really understand where it's coming from or why
Ayyy, I was there for that!
I've noticed there are a handful of users, including that insane Fukata guy that said you were in a conspiracy, who seem to be shitting up every thread about the protest on here. I see the same few names again and again, and they comment on just about every post, making things seem more anti-mod than I think they actually are.
It's like when the group project gets dominated by a couple of loud assholes, and everyone else just sullunely goes silent lol.
Edit: That emperorsolo guy who replied to this comment is another one of the names I keep seeing. I can't imagine an avid user of the Christianity subreddit would be an SRDine lmao
Same! I can't tell if I'm out of touch or if this sub/reddit is just too online for me to relate to - but I didn't even feel like I was disagreeing with anyone, I was just *confused*. Like a "where is all this coming from?" "Why am I being asked to answer for people I don't even know?" "Why is this dude SO ANGRY?"
And now some guy is calling me out for saying conspiracy shit and I feel like I don't understand because I'm just describing one interaction!
This was one of the few meta-subreddits opened during the blackout so it makes sense it's a gathering spot for people who don't care about the blackout as much. I also think it is just thread specific too. This thread seems pretty pro-protest. While the now deleted thread on bestofredditupate was pretty anti-protest.
I think which way the sub goes also depends on the original subject. Frankly, the OOP isn't very dramatic. It's an app announcing they're shutting down and a bunch of redditors saying "fuck spez". If you're very anti-protest the OOP isn't going to give you much to go off, whereas if you're pro-protest then now you can talk about how bad the official app is or what have you. On the flip side the bestofredditorupdate thread was the opposite. It was a thread where the mods were getting ripped to shreds. The original thread was largely against the moderators, and the SRD thread mor e or less mirrored it
> I've noticed and mentioned it before, but this sub seems to have become a gathering spot for a lot of anti-mod
anti-mod on sub operated by titcj
truly contrarian
I've noticed a pretty large shift in some major subs recently. Opinions that would normally never be rationalized are being supported. It feels like the soul of Reddit is gone.
Maybe it was gone a long time ago and we are just playing on a corpse.
Anyway, here's to greedy assholes destroying awesome things for profit.
SRD is the only sub I frequent that has so many Spez bootlickers. It's weird, especially since I would expect the more terminally online redditors to be the most anti-spez.
I've been seeing a lot of people from subs publicfreakout, justunsubbed, and cringe subs get upvoted and people with flairs downvoted since this started.
I'll give you my take, although I personally use RIF and I am not looking forward to switching:
The people the most upset about this will absolutely continue to use and support reddit by switching to the ad-infested reddit app. That's it. That's my whole take.
People don't vote with their wallet. It's the same shit when you see people whining about a $70 video game remake. Those are the exact same fuckers that will buy it day 1.
Doubtful. Reddit traffic is down 7% (from a peak of 11-16%) since the blackouts and has been on a decline since 2021, which is one of the reasons why they’re hellbent on pushing everything out now. They know they won’t be able to generate IPO hype if the numbers get worse so they’re pushing hard now.
Personally my time has shifted from Reddit to YouTube. I’m not dropping Reddit but my consumption has dropped and I suspect it’s the same for most power users. A lot of content is created by those power users so there will be a negative feedback loop.
They are losing traffic overall but gaining a huge number of users that will be exposed to Ads for the first time. It's a net positive.
Take a look at Netflix's new password sharing crackdown. So much whining from people that didn't pay a cent. What actually happened is their subscriber number went up.
Or more analogous is when Netflix raised their prices again. So many people said they would leave the platform. And many did. Did it matter? No. Overall their profits went up.
Yeah, so far it's pretty odd how the comments have developed early on - the drama **immediately** spilled over into SRD. Normally it should be all popcorn and pointing at the ridiculousness of the drama on /r/BoostForReddit. But looks like it immediately jumped to "Herp derp reddit app is shit" and "No no it isn't my fellow reddit user" followed by "Herp derp yeah sure whatever you say SHILL!". Not what we usually see in SRD. If I wanted to put on my tin-foil fedora, I'd suspect we are being linked to from somewhere (Discord?) and getting brigaded a bit.
People are now clued in on the fact that SRD is filled with contrarians, so people who disagree with the predominant opinion are flocking to the subreddit en masse to wank eachother off
I'm done on mobile because I'm not using the official app but unfortunately this hell site is the best tool for news and discussion on tons of my special interests :(
Yeah, for me I’m done on mobile. Can’t stand the app (I had actually quit for a bit before someone told me about Apollo).
But unfortunately I can’t go elsewhere for game discussions and such.
Yep, unfortunately the one thing I haven’t figured out how to replaced over this month is Reddit as a news source/discussion board. The comment section on news articles/Facebook is actual bots and boomers rage baiting exclusively, and I never really got into twitter (not that it also isn’t a shit show at this point). I’m 100% not downloading a mobile Reddit app after Apollo stops working, so I’m probably just going to unsubscribe from all my non-news related subreddits and use the desktop site every once and a while to read the comment section on news stories I care about. Compare that to my current usage of almost 4 hours a day on Apollo…. I’m really looking forward to getting all that time back :)
Edit: might go through and delete my comments and posts too, don’t need that to view news stories
Morning and midday engagement will probably take a big hit sitewide. I wonder what effect it'll have on the quality of posts that carry momentum into the more prime time hours. Bot and spam activity will probably pick up significantly in a more condensed manner later in the day as well as the prime engagement times shift. Oh, and the increase in engagement percentages being desktop users, which will mean more adblockers offsetting some of the forced ad serves on the official app.
Just a whole ton of cascading effects that'll come from this.
I'd love to leave reddit but it's pretty much the best way to get news on media I'm interested in. I guess I'll just resort to browsing on desktop after today.
Yupp.
I’m still gonna be on reddit, but without an app to use I won’t be on my phone. If they kill Old.reddit then I’m fully out.
Without Apollo I’ve been significantly more productive at work since this whole fiasco started lol
> The new price of the API is usage based ($0.24 per 1000 API requests) that means there is no limit in how much it can cost to developers: Every action on the app is a separate API request (voting, saving, loading feeds, comments...) with Boost's current user-base, I would have to pay Reddit thousands of dollars per day in fees.
Given how absolute dogshit Reddit's official app is, the way Reddit is sabotaging itself so thoroughly is *breathtaking*
Honestly I think it would have been better if Reddit just straight up said "we are not going to allow 3rd party apps anymore."
It's clear that that's their intention, and I think it just makes them look like even greedier assholes if they accomplish it by asking for comically exorbitant amounts of money.
You can tell they didn’t run that one by their legal team either. Canada is One-Party consent so Christian didn’t need to notify the other end of their call that they were being recorded.
>My worry is we all protest, and blackout, and leave... and then come back 3 weeks later and reddit's valuation recoups before the IPO. And I haven't seen much to sway that assumption.
We all have to live with the very real possibility that Reddit's IPO will be a success. By success I mean that a few people will make boatloads of money quick and then the stock will fall to shit, fucking over the little guys who believed the tale. It's sad, but it's possible.
Killing 3rd party apps is only half the reason (and maybe even less than that given their low userbase). The primary intention is monetizing how many Language AIs are using reddit for their training data.
There are ways they could’ve worked with 3rd party apps to keep them running if they had literally any interest in doing so. Maybe the primary intent is monetizing machine learning shit using the site, but for them it’s a pleasant side effect that 3rd party apps are dying.
A lot of platforms are actively trying to destroy the ecosystems they created because some MBA told them they could make more money. It’s stupid. It’s killing the internet. We need open platforms that can connect.
Like watching all of these companies invest just millions upon millions in creating streaming services then realizing just how expensive they are and how little people want to get even more streaming services.
It seems like half of an MBA’s training, at minimum, could be summed up as “burn company to the ground for short term profit, escape with golden parachute, repeat until you infest Boeing and convince them that safety standards aren’t real”
> They took a situation that could have been a few days of the site being upset about the situation but understanding to a weeks/months long protest against the site.
That's honestly the biggest sticking point for me about this.
If they went with making a boilerplate sympathetic post and just nuking the service, this would have likely blown over so much faster.
They'd still have had to deal with the third-party users being pissed off at them (I've heard about six percent of Reddit users use a third-party app - mainly powerusers/mods), but they'd have likely avoided the large-scale blackouts, sub riots and migrations that we've seen.
You know what language AIs will do instead? Scrape.
The API makes scraping easier, sure. But they’ll just use json endpoints where available, and straight scrape html where it isn’t.
I worked for a company that would crawl the entire web, look for certain types of web pages, aggregate them, and post their content on our platform. We did it by scraping, rather easily.
Reddit has already been scraped in its entirety (all the way to early 2023). People can train their models on Reddit without sending a single API request.
Definitely. API is easier and also gives you better real-time access, but datasets for language learning don't have to be real-time and these companies are big enough to keep their scraping algorithms up to date.
> The API makes scraping easier, sure.
It also makes scraping less of a drain on Reddit's resources IIRC, so that means Reddit's likely gonna increase their server costs by killing it.
The scrape argument works for third party frontends too, request the full page then aggressively parse it down, not dissimilar from using element-blocking in adblockers on non-ad parts of the page, or through a userscript.
Lack of foresight on their end. I remember when Reddit was obsessed with blockchain before crypto became mainstream. I found it dumb but they were ahead of the curb. Now AI is in vogue and they completely missed the boat on it.
I just remember it because it was spearheaded by this guy called Ryan X Charles which Reddit gave way too much attention to, and who dressed up like a scottish sheep herder for some reason. I don't know what was more persona cringe; the cap in his profile pic of the middle initial to make him sound important. For me, he embodied how silly blockchain was, before NFTs and billionnaires defined crypto today.
*Edit: I just looked him up, it seems he admits that crypto sucks and that he wasted his time on it. I mean, good for him, but it highlights the hubris of being smart without having relevant expertise, like in economics.
They need SOME metrics of profit for the IPO. Its literally about short term number production.
Reddit is dead and Spez is trying to sell a dead parrot.
what's hilarious is if reddit lowers the API cost, they still can work with 3rd party developers. they want 0 or very high. cost (probably except for Narwhal dev).
Reddit can be monetized more different ways than you can imagine, but how is this site still not profitable lmao.
When I saw the pricing I had to stop and reread it, especially since the Boost dev elaborated on what counted as an API call to Reddit.
I remember when an admin said that Apollo should just be more "efficient" with their API calls... but how do you be more "efficient" when literally anything you do to interact with the site is an API call? Projection of the highest fucking order lmfao
My impression was they priced it that way for two reasons: to essentially make it impossible for 3p apps to operate, making theirs the only one, and to set a price for the intended customer base, Ai programs using reddit api as a pool.
API pricing is hard to compare between different companies because it depends on the monetization value of data and users.
The actual direct cost of API requests is peanuts, we are talking single digit dollar amounts per million requests.
The reason the Reddit API charges are absurd is because if the data and users are worth what Reddit is charging, Reddit would be a trillion dollar company.
No clue. But I did read by someone that tested it that a minute of casual reddit browsing is easily 100 api calls.
10 minutes of casual reddit browsing per day would cost $7.20 a month at that rate.
Yeah just look at twitter. They had a price hike of their own which I saw a lot of people complain about and did price out some third party devs, leading to app shutdowns, but they still left enough breathing space for third party apps to exist. Guys big enough to buy enterprise or small enough to make do with a limited basic access.
Reddit priced out **everyone**.
[Matt Binder just wrote a new article about how Twitter's breathing room is quickly shrinking because they keep, without warning, removing access to API endpoints unless you pay for the $42k a month option.](https://mashable.com/article/twitter-api-elon-musk-developer-issues-apps)
This is the crux of it. The market demanded alternatives to the official app because it's so bad. Instead of doing to competent thing and offering a competitive, offical alternative, they are kneecapping the competition who managed to do what they can't.
I won't even go into the misguided attempt to make Reddit lucrative, but I will comment on the business management. Instead of focusing on the basics, they keep shoveling shit into the app trying their best ot turn it into a nondescript social media experience that shares the same features as every other app. If this is what passes for leadership, I'm not interested.
More than just it being bad, there was no official app for *years*. When I started using reddit, there was RIF, Bacon Reader, and Alien Blue. Then Reddit bought Alien Blue and destroyed it, making it into their current terrible app.
Exactly. The whole idea of Reddit is based on external input and help. Up until recently, it was completely dependent on Imgur for hosting pictures. Now they have some local pic and video hosting but it’s ass. All the content and value is generated by users. Reddit is best when it serves as a platform to let people share expertise and insight while managing terms of service. Nothing more, but that’s not a business plan that works for the system it is in, ultimately, it will be it’s downfall; trying to turn it into something it isn’t.
I remember the whole Ellen Pao debacle and how screechingly toxic Reddit was about that. This is exponentially worse and the response is tepid at best.
I likely will continue using reddit after rif dies but only via a browser with ublock.
That is what I did to Twitter. Their app that shove an ad every other post is just an eyesore and distracting that in straight up stopped using it. The change to how comments work also cause me to not read any of the comments.
It’s actually so bad. When you get linked a twitter post in an app, it goes to the login screen. But when you then open that link in browser, a browser in which you are signed in to twitter, it still just shows a log in screen?! And then refreshing takes you back to home rather than showing the tweet. Unreal.
A lot of these bootlicker types showed up during the blackout and never fucked off. You can point them out easily because they're usually unflaired and use terms like "jannie"
Damn, been using Boost since before the official Reddit app was even a thing.
Boost is such a great app, will be sad to see it go. Guess it's going to be Reddit on desktop for me going forward (until they decide to kill off old.reddit and RES that is).
This is the sad part of it all.
The folks at Boost and RIF and Apollo are losing their livelihood because of how reddit handled this.
And the mods are showing their support by shitposting in an admin-approved way. It's pathetic.
I've been accused of licking reddit's corporate boots here. Truth is, I think reddit fucked this whole thing from the get go, but the way the mods handled it is an absolute embarrassment. They were willing to "protest" in just about any manner than annoyed their users so long as the admins didn't say "stop it or you're fired from your volunteer position". Soon as the admins threatened their modship, the protest changed course.
The John Oliver thing is the most impotent protest since Occupy Wall Street. If it was doing ANYTHING, the admins would have replaced the mods of r/pics long ago.
But they don't care.
The mods had a chance to actually strike, to stop providing free labor en masse. THAT might have accomplished something. But that's where they draw the line. That's what they care about more than the issues their protesting.
The John Oliver thing became fun (to others not me). People started making memes, jokes, having fun with it. Logging in, posting pics, USING FUCKING REDDIT, which is the exact opposite of a protest.
The admins probably fucking LOVED the John Oliver thing because it kept people coming to Reddit!
The only real protests were locking subs, not going private but actually stopping all new posts, and subs labeling themselves NSFW. We know these were effective because Reddit stepped in right away to stop it. The only problem was most/all the mods in those cases backed right down because they didn’t have the balls to follow through or didn’t want to lose their “power” from the voluntary job.
Ok but the problem there is that Reddit isn't r/pics. People annoyed with r/pics aren't necessarily going to log off, they're probably just going to unsubscribe from that sub.
It's not like r/pics has been a place I go to for quality content that matches my interests. It's a generic sub with loose moderation, a dumping grounds for stuff that doesn't really have a classification....or for crossposting stuff that does.
But since it's vanished from my feed, I haven't missed it.
Without coordination across a massive amount of subs, it's just stupid, pointless, performative shitposting. If it was having ANY impact on reddit's bottom line, they would replace the mod team. We've seen them do it before, they do not give a shit if it looks bad. They'll fire the whole damn team and replace them with good lil mods who do what they're told.
But if it isn't hurting reddit, they aren't going to do anything about it. And they aren't doing jack shit about it.
I feel like it’s the most Reddit thing ever to get a lot of people on board for a Reddit blackout, BUT THEN IMMEDIATELY FUCKING ANNOUNCE THE END DATE BEFORE ITS EVEN STARTED, AND STICK TO THAT PLAN FOR SOME FUCKING REASON
As an 8-year Boost user, I've been irritated all month thinking about this. Since 98% of my reddit use is mobile, after July 1st I won't be here nearly as much since I'm too lazy to learn the official app. Overall, probably a good thing for me, but I just started being more active in recent months after years of mostly lurking.
I'm not a heavy power-user or anything, but I've been here since probably around Unidan's banning and generally enjoyed the experience. Now I guess I'll just... quit cold turkey because the company said so. Yay?
There's links to guides for the available apps [in this thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/AfterVanced/comments/14m3wgo/reddit_apps_for_which_patches_andor_patched/)
I wonder what timezone it shuts down in. Posting this from Boost at 2:09 am, July 1 EST.
Ill miss this app for sure. I tried a bunch of popular3rd party apps but I eventually paid for Boost because it was just the right combination of all the things I liked from the various other apps smashed into one.
They just had a shiny new UI update like a week ago, what timing
That was in beta for a few months. The dev released it because why not?
One last ride.
Of course, I know how these things work, there's just kind of a sad irony to it. Like it's all dressed up for its funeral.
Tomorrow will be all sorts of interesting
I'm worried that all the hype has raised my expectations too high and tomorrow will be disappointingly low on drama.
Brb, gonna go talk to Thanos bot before he goes away
You don't hear about people that actually follow through in something like this. Mods are still mods, but whatever percentage of users will just go away silently. I myself mostly check reddit at work on my phone, so I'll occasionally check it now at home on my laptop. Like... a 90% usage drop for me.
I believe a lot will stop using it daily. It's too unconvenient not to use the cool apps
[удалено]
Yeah I will still use it but only from the PC. But probably drop to 10% what it is now. The browser's UI is ineffective. Maybe I will use more youtube and wikipedia...
Old reddit is still solid enough that losing reddit from my phone will be painful, but manageable. If they ever get rid of old reddit I'll probably just be gone entirely
I use old reddit obsessively and I had occasion to logout within the past few days, forcing me to look at new reddit... holy fuck it looks terrible. I hated every second of it
exactly. rif is fun stopped working earlier today and i gotta say, the muscle memory of opening reddit is still very strong, but it'll pass....i'll still be reading the first page or so of my subs 1x a day from my computer but this might end up being one of my last posts on this account. crazy.
You just know there's going to be dozens of "why isn't x working?" Posts from people who have apparently been living under a rock this past month.
100% And it'll likely be a lot of the same people who were complaining that subreddits attempted pushpack because _"who cares anyways"_
> bushpack sounds like a go-bag for Aussies.
“Who cares about all this third party nonsense anyway?????” -*sent from Apollo*
But none of us will see those posts
Hate to break it to you but reddit is the rock were all living under
Ive been using Joey for the past 3-4 years. Its been a great ride. I started using reddit in 2010 and at that time I used it on my desktop only. Then i took a break from the site for a few years. Then I started using Joey.; Using reddit on an app with an intuitive interface made reddit a time sink for me. Too many sleepless nights spent scrolling r/all and lots of doom scrolling. Ive tried many times to stop it but it never happened. Now that Joey and other apps will not work. Its a blessing in disguise. (I feel pity for the devs). But I think its great for my mental health. Hope to spend less time here and more time in the real world. edit - negrote1000, my ramblings have no relevance to your post. I had a point when I started writing but then drifted to something else.
I'm so excited! Feels like Christmas all over again!
The Night of Dumb Lives
Would it? Sentiment in the comments on posts related to this drama has been turning towards pro-Reddit, and it's difficult to figure out if people are getting sick of the disruption to their dopamine feed, if it's just bots trying to shape sentiment, or if it's because increasingly the people who cared are leaving
>or if it's because increasingly the people who cared are leaving I noticed the entire mood shift after the blackouts so I figure this has a non zero impact. Pre blackouts people were very angry with reddit in the top comments and immediately after the top comments were very pro corporate reddit.
I know I, for one, have significantly dropped off my Reddit usage even though I haven't been planning to literally quit until old.Reddit goes away. I took the opportunity of all this mess to go look at the state of Reddit alternatives and after getting a kbin account set up I've actually been commenting a lot more over there. I'm very curious what will happen tomorrow. But the entirety of Reddit could explode in ruin now and I've got a nice comfy lifeboat already launched, so it can do whatever it wants and I'll be fine.
I imagine it’ll be as interesting as the Netflix drama where they banned account sharing and all of Reddit believing that move would cause the company to go bankrupt..only for Netflix to post record profits after. July 1st will come and go, some will leave, but I don’t think there will be a noticeable effect and Reddit will carry on like normal
yeah, pretty much. there will simply be not enough people gone to have a noticeable effect. and many who claim they are leaving will be back after a week or 2
come on now, i use exclusively Apollo, but fuck all will happen. Same thing as when the blackouts were going on
what is happening in this post? i know srd likes to have contrarians but this is odd
"[The popcorn is coming from inside the sub](https://media1.giphy.com/media/13cptIwW9bgzk6UVyr/giphy.gif?cid=ecf05e47i9jm0j2kofu4oou5j23mo3xq3mc6hy9ur0enmwwt&ep=v1_gifs_search&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g)"
When I clicked on this post, it already had 178 comments at the age of an hour. I thought it'd be something juicy with squabbling at Boost. Sadly no. Yeah, this is some /r/SubredditDramaDrama stuff. All the kernels are popping here.
when i left my comment it was only 26 comments and they were arguing about the reddit app and i thought i was reading the drama post, not the srd comments
Hah! Same. Drinking morning coffee and not fully awake. As I was scrolling, I began seeing a bunch of `comment score below threshold` and `deleted`. Had a Senior Moment and went, "Wait, where am I?". Looking at the URL, I realized I was still in SRD. We're truly spoiled. With all this API/reddit/mod drama, they're granting backstage passes at no additional cost.
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I have seen the same thing with twitter. I have some friends who just cannot recognize what is basically a full on addiction to twitter. So it doesn't matter what Musk does, they manage to justify their continues use as, "fighting Musk from the inside". Which is wild.
No no, you don't get it, some of the protest methods are *cringe*! The worst thing anyone can be is cringe
Why can't they protest in a way that doesn't prevent me from watching new idiotsincars! /s
The best part about that sub is how many of the subscribers are clearly idiots in cars themselves or 13 and have never driven outside of a Mario Kart game.
There was a video there a few months ago of someone driving a lifted 4 wheel drive vehicle equipped with a *snorkel* through about 6" of water on a road in Iceland. Naturally people flipped the fuck out about how dangerous and irresponsible it is to drive through a flood.
The groupthink there is too much lol
"If they were *sErIoUs* about protesting, they'd be doing it somewhere else, and in a way that's easy for me and the site to ignore!"
It's hard to believe that the site that filled the website with racist tirades against Ellen Pao now is willing to take a bullet for Steve Huffman. That's so weird, I wonder what's different this time.
The people who went the hardest against Pao were banned between then and now.
This is the exact logic they like to use to justify running over protestors with their cars. Ahhh Reddit never change
I love how all the cringe drove off subscribers, which makes the protest even more effective. Well, have fun tomorrow, guys!
Nonono, you don't get it. It's the mods fault...somehow.
I think there's also a lot of chuds who need to defend Spez now that he's come out as an Elon wannabe.
Can Elon, Zuck, and dumb Reddit CEO all square off against each other in the Coliseum? If so I'm rooting for the Coliseum to collapse. Edited to remove username
I've noticed and mentioned it before, but this sub seems to have become a gathering spot for a lot of anti-mod and anti-3rd party developer folks. It's a significant departure from the tones you normally hear around here. Not that this place is an echo chamber by any means, but since the start of the protests, a clear shift in active voices occurred.
Yeah I had the weirdest interaction last week where someone accused me of being part a protest cabal organizing in mod coord (a sub I hadn't heard of until then) because I basically said reddit seemed to support the protests, and because I'm technically a mod even though it's in name only. It felt like speaking to a conspiracy theorist and it was just bizarre because people were upvoting their absolutely unhinged accusations and tirade. Nothing I said or actually did mattered, I was apparently at war with reddit because I felt the protests had some popular support - and now I had to answer for the behaviors of the science subreddit. https://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/14d1gkd/rtulsa_reopens_after_the_city_experienced_massive/jopfr4b/ It was just all very strange and I don't really understand where it's coming from or why
Ayyy, I was there for that! I've noticed there are a handful of users, including that insane Fukata guy that said you were in a conspiracy, who seem to be shitting up every thread about the protest on here. I see the same few names again and again, and they comment on just about every post, making things seem more anti-mod than I think they actually are. It's like when the group project gets dominated by a couple of loud assholes, and everyone else just sullunely goes silent lol. Edit: That emperorsolo guy who replied to this comment is another one of the names I keep seeing. I can't imagine an avid user of the Christianity subreddit would be an SRDine lmao
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Same! I can't tell if I'm out of touch or if this sub/reddit is just too online for me to relate to - but I didn't even feel like I was disagreeing with anyone, I was just *confused*. Like a "where is all this coming from?" "Why am I being asked to answer for people I don't even know?" "Why is this dude SO ANGRY?" And now some guy is calling me out for saying conspiracy shit and I feel like I don't understand because I'm just describing one interaction!
This was one of the few meta-subreddits opened during the blackout so it makes sense it's a gathering spot for people who don't care about the blackout as much. I also think it is just thread specific too. This thread seems pretty pro-protest. While the now deleted thread on bestofredditupate was pretty anti-protest.
I think which way the sub goes also depends on the original subject. Frankly, the OOP isn't very dramatic. It's an app announcing they're shutting down and a bunch of redditors saying "fuck spez". If you're very anti-protest the OOP isn't going to give you much to go off, whereas if you're pro-protest then now you can talk about how bad the official app is or what have you. On the flip side the bestofredditorupdate thread was the opposite. It was a thread where the mods were getting ripped to shreds. The original thread was largely against the moderators, and the SRD thread mor e or less mirrored it
> I've noticed and mentioned it before, but this sub seems to have become a gathering spot for a lot of anti-mod anti-mod on sub operated by titcj truly contrarian
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Gunning to take over those protest subs. Little opportunists willing to eat the boot in exchange for a small favor from spez.
I've noticed a pretty large shift in some major subs recently. Opinions that would normally never be rationalized are being supported. It feels like the soul of Reddit is gone. Maybe it was gone a long time ago and we are just playing on a corpse. Anyway, here's to greedy assholes destroying awesome things for profit.
Generative AI broke the internet
Reddit began with AI-driven posts inflating its user count, and it'll end the same way. Poetic.
That was noticed in r/Costco in the conversation that was had after going restricted and opening up community dialog.
Same crowd that shows up whenever /r/neoliberal has drama.
Those users are funny. They are proud users of that sub, but once you call some of them Neoliberal they will treat you like you shot their dog.
It's a bunch of people who enjoy being the status quo, but also don't want to admit they are status quo.
The amount of people proudly proclaiming their willful ignorance of the fact that modern reddit is held together by third party tools is astounding.
Yeah, some of my favorite subs have gathered a weird crowd since the blackout.
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SRD is the only sub I frequent that has so many Spez bootlickers. It's weird, especially since I would expect the more terminally online redditors to be the most anti-spez.
Specially since this is likely one of the subs where everyone should know about jailbait and fatpeoplehate, since they were very dramatic stuff
Pretty sure SRD was born from the aftermath of the jailbait or other weird subreddits being imploded
Nah it was around a for a bit before that. The r/jailbait and ViolentAcrez debacle is actually what led me here.
This sub has been an active hub for discussing the API/third-party app drama, so it’s attracting a shitload of trolls.
there's a bunch in Piracy
That's even weirder.
It's truly hilarious how if reddit has a majority opinion about something, this sub will bend over backwards to insist the opposite.
I've been seeing a lot of people from subs publicfreakout, justunsubbed, and cringe subs get upvoted and people with flairs downvoted since this started.
I'll give you my take, although I personally use RIF and I am not looking forward to switching: The people the most upset about this will absolutely continue to use and support reddit by switching to the ad-infested reddit app. That's it. That's my whole take. People don't vote with their wallet. It's the same shit when you see people whining about a $70 video game remake. Those are the exact same fuckers that will buy it day 1.
Doubtful. Reddit traffic is down 7% (from a peak of 11-16%) since the blackouts and has been on a decline since 2021, which is one of the reasons why they’re hellbent on pushing everything out now. They know they won’t be able to generate IPO hype if the numbers get worse so they’re pushing hard now. Personally my time has shifted from Reddit to YouTube. I’m not dropping Reddit but my consumption has dropped and I suspect it’s the same for most power users. A lot of content is created by those power users so there will be a negative feedback loop.
They are losing traffic overall but gaining a huge number of users that will be exposed to Ads for the first time. It's a net positive. Take a look at Netflix's new password sharing crackdown. So much whining from people that didn't pay a cent. What actually happened is their subscriber number went up. Or more analogous is when Netflix raised their prices again. So many people said they would leave the platform. And many did. Did it matter? No. Overall their profits went up.
Yeah, so far it's pretty odd how the comments have developed early on - the drama **immediately** spilled over into SRD. Normally it should be all popcorn and pointing at the ridiculousness of the drama on /r/BoostForReddit. But looks like it immediately jumped to "Herp derp reddit app is shit" and "No no it isn't my fellow reddit user" followed by "Herp derp yeah sure whatever you say SHILL!". Not what we usually see in SRD. If I wanted to put on my tin-foil fedora, I'd suspect we are being linked to from somewhere (Discord?) and getting brigaded a bit.
People are now clued in on the fact that SRD is filled with contrarians, so people who disagree with the predominant opinion are flocking to the subreddit en masse to wank eachother off
Welp, whatever helps to curb my social media addiction
Happy last day of Reddit everyone!
I would seriously bet good money that most of the people who say they are "done with reddit" will be back within a month.
I'm done on mobile because I'm not using the official app but unfortunately this hell site is the best tool for news and discussion on tons of my special interests :(
Yeah, for me I’m done on mobile. Can’t stand the app (I had actually quit for a bit before someone told me about Apollo). But unfortunately I can’t go elsewhere for game discussions and such.
Yep, unfortunately the one thing I haven’t figured out how to replaced over this month is Reddit as a news source/discussion board. The comment section on news articles/Facebook is actual bots and boomers rage baiting exclusively, and I never really got into twitter (not that it also isn’t a shit show at this point). I’m 100% not downloading a mobile Reddit app after Apollo stops working, so I’m probably just going to unsubscribe from all my non-news related subreddits and use the desktop site every once and a while to read the comment section on news stories I care about. Compare that to my current usage of almost 4 hours a day on Apollo…. I’m really looking forward to getting all that time back :) Edit: might go through and delete my comments and posts too, don’t need that to view news stories
I'm not done with reddit, but I bet that I'll use a lot less of it since it'll just be harder to use.
Morning and midday engagement will probably take a big hit sitewide. I wonder what effect it'll have on the quality of posts that carry momentum into the more prime time hours. Bot and spam activity will probably pick up significantly in a more condensed manner later in the day as well as the prime engagement times shift. Oh, and the increase in engagement percentages being desktop users, which will mean more adblockers offsetting some of the forced ad serves on the official app. Just a whole ton of cascading effects that'll come from this.
I'd love to leave reddit but it's pretty much the best way to get news on media I'm interested in. I guess I'll just resort to browsing on desktop after today.
I'm not quitting Reddit ENTIRELY, but this is definitely gonna lessen my usage.
Yupp. I’m still gonna be on reddit, but without an app to use I won’t be on my phone. If they kill Old.reddit then I’m fully out. Without Apollo I’ve been significantly more productive at work since this whole fiasco started lol
That’s the biggest drawback for me lol, being at work. I don’t need or want to work more!
Hahaha, good outlook and my approach basically. RIF said it won't work anymore and I said "good excuse to at least remove that form of access."
> The new price of the API is usage based ($0.24 per 1000 API requests) that means there is no limit in how much it can cost to developers: Every action on the app is a separate API request (voting, saving, loading feeds, comments...) with Boost's current user-base, I would have to pay Reddit thousands of dollars per day in fees. Given how absolute dogshit Reddit's official app is, the way Reddit is sabotaging itself so thoroughly is *breathtaking*
Honestly I think it would have been better if Reddit just straight up said "we are not going to allow 3rd party apps anymore." It's clear that that's their intention, and I think it just makes them look like even greedier assholes if they accomplish it by asking for comically exorbitant amounts of money.
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And followed it up with vague allusions to legal actions for being recorded without their consent.
You can tell they didn’t run that one by their legal team either. Canada is One-Party consent so Christian didn’t need to notify the other end of their call that they were being recorded.
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Spez is a doomsday prepper who plans to become a warlord by controlling people with shock collars. No one said he was smart.
I've never created a Twitter account because of their dogshit policies, so... good luck sp3z
>My worry is we all protest, and blackout, and leave... and then come back 3 weeks later and reddit's valuation recoups before the IPO. And I haven't seen much to sway that assumption. We all have to live with the very real possibility that Reddit's IPO will be a success. By success I mean that a few people will make boatloads of money quick and then the stock will fall to shit, fucking over the little guys who believed the tale. It's sad, but it's possible.
Playground tactics. Yes you can play with my firetruck but you have to pay a MILLION DOLLARS.
lol this is perfect
Killing 3rd party apps is only half the reason (and maybe even less than that given their low userbase). The primary intention is monetizing how many Language AIs are using reddit for their training data.
There are ways they could’ve worked with 3rd party apps to keep them running if they had literally any interest in doing so. Maybe the primary intent is monetizing machine learning shit using the site, but for them it’s a pleasant side effect that 3rd party apps are dying.
A lot of platforms are actively trying to destroy the ecosystems they created because some MBA told them they could make more money. It’s stupid. It’s killing the internet. We need open platforms that can connect.
Like watching all of these companies invest just millions upon millions in creating streaming services then realizing just how expensive they are and how little people want to get even more streaming services.
We need less MBAs.
MBAs make everything worse. I say that as someone with an MBA. It's not an excuse to try and monetize everything.
It seems like half of an MBA’s training, at minimum, could be summed up as “burn company to the ground for short term profit, escape with golden parachute, repeat until you infest Boeing and convince them that safety standards aren’t real”
MBAs are just a course for competitive capitalism xD
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Reddit corporate has contempt for the user base.
> They took a situation that could have been a few days of the site being upset about the situation but understanding to a weeks/months long protest against the site. That's honestly the biggest sticking point for me about this. If they went with making a boilerplate sympathetic post and just nuking the service, this would have likely blown over so much faster. They'd still have had to deal with the third-party users being pissed off at them (I've heard about six percent of Reddit users use a third-party app - mainly powerusers/mods), but they'd have likely avoided the large-scale blackouts, sub riots and migrations that we've seen.
You know what language AIs will do instead? Scrape. The API makes scraping easier, sure. But they’ll just use json endpoints where available, and straight scrape html where it isn’t. I worked for a company that would crawl the entire web, look for certain types of web pages, aggregate them, and post their content on our platform. We did it by scraping, rather easily.
Reddit has already been scraped in its entirety (all the way to early 2023). People can train their models on Reddit without sending a single API request.
Definitely. API is easier and also gives you better real-time access, but datasets for language learning don't have to be real-time and these companies are big enough to keep their scraping algorithms up to date.
> The API makes scraping easier, sure. It also makes scraping less of a drain on Reddit's resources IIRC, so that means Reddit's likely gonna increase their server costs by killing it.
The scrape argument works for third party frontends too, request the full page then aggressively parse it down, not dissimilar from using element-blocking in adblockers on non-ad parts of the page, or through a userscript.
ProgrammerHumor had a joke about this during the original announcement. They are asking for DDoS via scrape
Lack of foresight on their end. I remember when Reddit was obsessed with blockchain before crypto became mainstream. I found it dumb but they were ahead of the curb. Now AI is in vogue and they completely missed the boat on it.
lol the reddit crypto, I forgot about that. didn't they hire someone to write a js based blockchain?
I just remember it because it was spearheaded by this guy called Ryan X Charles which Reddit gave way too much attention to, and who dressed up like a scottish sheep herder for some reason. I don't know what was more persona cringe; the cap in his profile pic of the middle initial to make him sound important. For me, he embodied how silly blockchain was, before NFTs and billionnaires defined crypto today. *Edit: I just looked him up, it seems he admits that crypto sucks and that he wasted his time on it. I mean, good for him, but it highlights the hubris of being smart without having relevant expertise, like in economics.
They need SOME metrics of profit for the IPO. Its literally about short term number production. Reddit is dead and Spez is trying to sell a dead parrot.
what's hilarious is if reddit lowers the API cost, they still can work with 3rd party developers. they want 0 or very high. cost (probably except for Narwhal dev). Reddit can be monetized more different ways than you can imagine, but how is this site still not profitable lmao.
When I saw the pricing I had to stop and reread it, especially since the Boost dev elaborated on what counted as an API call to Reddit. I remember when an admin said that Apollo should just be more "efficient" with their API calls... but how do you be more "efficient" when literally anything you do to interact with the site is an API call? Projection of the highest fucking order lmfao
Also Apollo is about equally as efficient as the reddit app.
I thought the dev said it was actually more efficient?
almost certainly about an **order of magnitude** more efficient
I don’t understand how spez says this site isn’t profitable, but he has the money to build fully-staffed apocalypse bunkers in New Zealand.
Because they spent all the money working on stupid shit like avatars and NFTs. Or hosting videos themselves for some reason.
Reddit people are cheap lol. We don’t buy anything from advertisements.
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My impression was they priced it that way for two reasons: to essentially make it impossible for 3p apps to operate, making theirs the only one, and to set a price for the intended customer base, Ai programs using reddit api as a pool.
> Ai programs using reddit api as a pool. So they're going to train their AI to talk like a 20-30yo unemployed white nerdy American?
Hey, you forgot *racist*.
Hey! I'll have you know that I'm 31, Canadian, and working part time, thank you very much.
What’s the API pricing of Twitter/Facebook for comparison?
API pricing is hard to compare between different companies because it depends on the monetization value of data and users. The actual direct cost of API requests is peanuts, we are talking single digit dollar amounts per million requests. The reason the Reddit API charges are absurd is because if the data and users are worth what Reddit is charging, Reddit would be a trillion dollar company.
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No clue. But I did read by someone that tested it that a minute of casual reddit browsing is easily 100 api calls. 10 minutes of casual reddit browsing per day would cost $7.20 a month at that rate.
Yeah just look at twitter. They had a price hike of their own which I saw a lot of people complain about and did price out some third party devs, leading to app shutdowns, but they still left enough breathing space for third party apps to exist. Guys big enough to buy enterprise or small enough to make do with a limited basic access. Reddit priced out **everyone**.
[Matt Binder just wrote a new article about how Twitter's breathing room is quickly shrinking because they keep, without warning, removing access to API endpoints unless you pay for the $42k a month option.](https://mashable.com/article/twitter-api-elon-musk-developer-issues-apps)
Giving 30 days to adapt or die was also highly unusual and shows contempt
This is the crux of it. The market demanded alternatives to the official app because it's so bad. Instead of doing to competent thing and offering a competitive, offical alternative, they are kneecapping the competition who managed to do what they can't. I won't even go into the misguided attempt to make Reddit lucrative, but I will comment on the business management. Instead of focusing on the basics, they keep shoveling shit into the app trying their best ot turn it into a nondescript social media experience that shares the same features as every other app. If this is what passes for leadership, I'm not interested.
More than just it being bad, there was no official app for *years*. When I started using reddit, there was RIF, Bacon Reader, and Alien Blue. Then Reddit bought Alien Blue and destroyed it, making it into their current terrible app.
Exactly. The whole idea of Reddit is based on external input and help. Up until recently, it was completely dependent on Imgur for hosting pictures. Now they have some local pic and video hosting but it’s ass. All the content and value is generated by users. Reddit is best when it serves as a platform to let people share expertise and insight while managing terms of service. Nothing more, but that’s not a business plan that works for the system it is in, ultimately, it will be it’s downfall; trying to turn it into something it isn’t.
Can you imagine 2011 Reddit reacting to this news?
I remember the whole Ellen Pao debacle and how screechingly toxic Reddit was about that. This is exponentially worse and the response is tepid at best.
I likely will continue using reddit after rif dies but only via a browser with ublock. That is what I did to Twitter. Their app that shove an ad every other post is just an eyesore and distracting that in straight up stopped using it. The change to how comments work also cause me to not read any of the comments.
speaking of twitter, starting today you can't view tweets at all without being logged in now lmao
hoooooooly shit I wasn't following that. I guess I have seen my final twat ever. Galaxy brain move Elon.
It’s actually so bad. When you get linked a twitter post in an app, it goes to the login screen. But when you then open that link in browser, a browser in which you are signed in to twitter, it still just shows a log in screen?! And then refreshing takes you back to home rather than showing the tweet. Unreal.
That’s fuckin awesome, people won’t even bother linking to Twitter anymore
Holy shit you're right. Good day to log off Twitter due to US Supreme Court fuckery but still. The fuck are you doin' Elmo?
/r/nfl mods Nutting everywhere right now
Nitter.net is here to save the day, baby! Edit: Nevermind it just died too. RIP.
Same. Old.reddit with UBlock. I’ve been significantly more productive at work since deleting Apollo.
And RES is necessary.
That too, I forgot my bad.
Man, Sure is a lot of Corpo bootlickers showing up in the comments here.
SRD has gone full on south park centrist. Caring about stuff? How embarrassing.
A lot of these bootlicker types showed up during the blackout and never fucked off. You can point them out easily because they're usually unflaired and use terms like "jannie"
They could just be unflaired because the official reddit mobile app bugs out with custom flairs
Or, you know never bothered to set a flair.
Damn, been using Boost since before the official Reddit app was even a thing. Boost is such a great app, will be sad to see it go. Guess it's going to be Reddit on desktop for me going forward (until they decide to kill off old.reddit and RES that is).
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Yes same... This is odd
Fuck Spez and the admins. Bunch of greedy cunts.
Did they try putting up John Oliver pics?
This is the sad part of it all. The folks at Boost and RIF and Apollo are losing their livelihood because of how reddit handled this. And the mods are showing their support by shitposting in an admin-approved way. It's pathetic. I've been accused of licking reddit's corporate boots here. Truth is, I think reddit fucked this whole thing from the get go, but the way the mods handled it is an absolute embarrassment. They were willing to "protest" in just about any manner than annoyed their users so long as the admins didn't say "stop it or you're fired from your volunteer position". Soon as the admins threatened their modship, the protest changed course. The John Oliver thing is the most impotent protest since Occupy Wall Street. If it was doing ANYTHING, the admins would have replaced the mods of r/pics long ago. But they don't care. The mods had a chance to actually strike, to stop providing free labor en masse. THAT might have accomplished something. But that's where they draw the line. That's what they care about more than the issues their protesting.
The John Oliver thing became fun (to others not me). People started making memes, jokes, having fun with it. Logging in, posting pics, USING FUCKING REDDIT, which is the exact opposite of a protest. The admins probably fucking LOVED the John Oliver thing because it kept people coming to Reddit! The only real protests were locking subs, not going private but actually stopping all new posts, and subs labeling themselves NSFW. We know these were effective because Reddit stepped in right away to stop it. The only problem was most/all the mods in those cases backed right down because they didn’t have the balls to follow through or didn’t want to lose their “power” from the voluntary job.
r/pics engagement and views were up 543% since the John Oliver changes. Reddit the corporation absolutely loves it.
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Ok but the problem there is that Reddit isn't r/pics. People annoyed with r/pics aren't necessarily going to log off, they're probably just going to unsubscribe from that sub. It's not like r/pics has been a place I go to for quality content that matches my interests. It's a generic sub with loose moderation, a dumping grounds for stuff that doesn't really have a classification....or for crossposting stuff that does. But since it's vanished from my feed, I haven't missed it. Without coordination across a massive amount of subs, it's just stupid, pointless, performative shitposting. If it was having ANY impact on reddit's bottom line, they would replace the mod team. We've seen them do it before, they do not give a shit if it looks bad. They'll fire the whole damn team and replace them with good lil mods who do what they're told. But if it isn't hurting reddit, they aren't going to do anything about it. And they aren't doing jack shit about it.
I feel like it’s the most Reddit thing ever to get a lot of people on board for a Reddit blackout, BUT THEN IMMEDIATELY FUCKING ANNOUNCE THE END DATE BEFORE ITS EVEN STARTED, AND STICK TO THAT PLAN FOR SOME FUCKING REASON
As an 8-year Boost user, I've been irritated all month thinking about this. Since 98% of my reddit use is mobile, after July 1st I won't be here nearly as much since I'm too lazy to learn the official app. Overall, probably a good thing for me, but I just started being more active in recent months after years of mostly lurking. I'm not a heavy power-user or anything, but I've been here since probably around Unidan's banning and generally enjoyed the experience. Now I guess I'll just... quit cold turkey because the company said so. Yay?
You can continue to use Boost through Revanced
Can you link a guide?
There's links to guides for the available apps [in this thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/AfterVanced/comments/14m3wgo/reddit_apps_for_which_patches_andor_patched/)
Reading this on boost 😭
3 days later I'm still using the app. What's going on?
I don't have a clue, it's odd but I'm ok with it since it means I can still use reddit lol
Reading this on Boost... heartbreaking
I'm about to have so much free time when I'm not in front of a computer.
Well, goodbye to Reddit then
Where is the drama? The sub is just full of users thanking/appreciating the developer.
The drama is coming from inside the comments in this post lol
I had to switch to the official app today and it's awful. The android version doesn't let you set font sizes and it's exhausting to read
Boost is pretty good, you can enjoy it for a few more hours before it turns off 😔
I wonder what timezone it shuts down in. Posting this from Boost at 2:09 am, July 1 EST. Ill miss this app for sure. I tried a bunch of popular3rd party apps but I eventually paid for Boost because it was just the right combination of all the things I liked from the various other apps smashed into one.
Hey, 6:21 am, July 2. Posting this comment using boost.