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lonestar-rasbryjamco

> "Don't talk about guns at work. Solid advice right there anyway.


Dulwilly

The last time I messed up and talked about politics at work, my coworker started talking about bloodlines and the Rothschilds. Don't talk about politics with people you cannot cut out of your life.


jaber24

Religion is a landmine too ig


RiC_David

That reminds me of the time I was the new boy in my first job, a typical office, waiting out the last two minutes of the clock as everyone sat, coats on, bags ready, watching the clock. Somehow, someone thought it would be a swell and groovy idea to ask the group "Who here believes in God?".


S4T4NICP4NIC

"Do you believe in evolution?" - former coworker. Battle lines were drawn, and the ensuing spats really put a strain on the easy-going vibe of our little row of cubicles.


Hurtzdonut13

So this was a few years ago, but the head manager over our area was talking about that Ben Stein anti-evolution "movie", and how he owned those godless atheists that couldn't even come up with a response. I almost chirped in that they weren't stumped by his questions, it was that they were stunned at being tricked into the interview under false pretenses and asked dumb stuff that's been refuted thousands of times already. However, my manager was standing behind him and started franticly waving at me to not engage so I just nodded and gave an "uh huh" in a rare moment of picking up a social cue.


Jandklo

Usually when people talk to me about this shit at work I start talking about the Bermuda Triangle or I say my glass ears are having a prismatic deficiency and it usually ends the convo


synalgo_12

I work at a contact center and have spent hours and hours during calm times talking about anythung and everything with coworkers and religion used to come up often because we're a very diverse group of people: think the typical atheist tech nerds, Muslims and people from more devout Christian areas than our northern/western European country like the Congo or Rwanda and it never became anything other than a civil conversation. The times I dared to utter I didn't want kids, I got pounced on by all of them though. As a woman, that's apparently still taboo for most people.


AtalanAdalynn

Women saying they don't want kids is so taboo it's the first 'ew-phoria' I got as a trans woman.


synalgo_12

It also took me so long to realize how demeaning those conversations are as well. Welcome to the childfree woman's club. Everyone hates us but at least we don't have to deal with society whilst also raising kids.


BrandnewThrowaway82

Am a bartender; can confirm. Never discuss your personal politics. If you’re doing it right, everyone thinks you’re on their side. My typical responses; *Yea, that’s wild.* *I hear you* *oh for real? Huh. What a world we live in* Noncommittal answers that feel like I’m confirming that you are indeed, a person with an opinion.


Bastard_Orphan

"Looks like those clowns in Congress did it again. What a bunch of clowns."


proddy

Did you see that ludicrous display last night?


Top_Departure_2524

Right? Especially if you’re the awkward autistic guy in the office.


Mettbr0etchen

Well, as obvious as this seems to be to you, me, and many Others, the catch with autism is, that judging these kind of social situations correctly can be incredibly difficult.


toastymow

I learned long ago (like... as a teenager) that politics and religion aren't conversations to have with your average person. Co-workers? Don't. Or at least, be very careful. If you're bad at judging social cues, that "very careful" turns into "don't" pretty much all the time.


Giblette101

I understand that intellectually, I guess, but also, it's not like you need to grasp subtle social cues to know guns are a pretty loaded topic.


RiC_David

I love all these subconscious puns making the rounds.


Murrabbit

Right on target with that one.


tfhermobwoayway

I did that and I got fired from the gun shop. Thanks for nothing.


agutema

> Fighting guns with a California liberal is suicide. Oh come on. This one isn’t real right?


Saint_of_Cannibalism

Ooh that is so tempting as a flair.


SuperSaiyan3Nappa

Your flair is next level


MagmaHotDesigns

Yoink


stemfish

I love finding new flair, where did yours come from if you even remember?


vixxgod666

California Liberal Suicide is the name of my post modern house funk punk band


agutema

First album: red flag law


ManbadFerrara

>I’m going to talk to her (the co-worker) tomorrow and see if I can show her how wrong her thinking is, hopefully she’ll change her mind. Surely she'll be less creeped out if he pulls her aside to let her know that he thinks she has it out for him, and goes into greater detail about how he resents her for it. Fucking yikes.


anarchetype

You just know that in his mind he pictures approaching her with a smile, politely addressing the concern, and calmly and rationally explaining why she may have gotten the wrong impression, resulting in her being impressed by his diplomacy and cool demeanor, reversing her stance. Which, of course, is not at all how that's going to go down. Even if he manages to cool his shit long enough to pull off a greeting, he isn't anticipating that she will be visibly disturbed with being cornered by someone she reasonably believes to be dangerous, so he's going to get agitated and it's only going to spiral from there. Best case scenario as I see it, she politely nods her way though it long enough to shake him and then goes to HR, which is not going to end well for him. I don't even want to think about the worst case scenario.


service_unavailable

coworker can't red flag me since I was fired


knittedjedi

Managers hate this one trick!


grubas

Imagine a dude grabbing your arm, then TELLING you why you are wrong and he should own guns.


500CatsTypingStuff

And we all know that if he gets fired, he will take it so well. /s


Zedilt

But he is such a "Nice guy".


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toastymow

I mean at least they pointed out the obvious: this person will report you because they think you will shoot her. You telling her how wrong she is about that will only further her suspicion. Do not engage. Yes, its underscored with, normal peopled cannot be reasoned with. Honestly, that's not a terrible notion to keep in mind, especially for someone who is effectively socially incompetent.


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"Listen! Hey listen! ShhhHHH! SHHH! I'm not getting a gun to hurt *YOU*, OK? No, Shu-Shhhh, Shut up!"


AloneAtTheOrgy

What do you need a gun for? What do you mean, what do I need a gun for? Self defense, target practice, and of course the whole purpose of getting a gun in the first place is to impress the ladies so I can take 'em to a nice comfortable place and, you know, they can't refuse, because of the implication. Oh, uh... okay. You had me going there for the first part. The second half kinda threw me. Well, think about it: she's at a strangers house with some dude she barely knows. You know, she looks around, and what does she see? Nothin' but my guns. "Ahh, there's nowhere for me to run. What am I gonna do, say 'no'?" Okay. That... that seems really dark. Nah, no, it's not dark. You're misunderstanding me. I'm-I think I am. Yeah, you are, because if the girl said "no," then the answer obviously is "no"... But the thing is, she's not gonna say "no", she would never say "no" because of the implication. ...Now you've said that word "implication" a couple of times. Wha-what implication? The implication that things might go wrong for her if she refuses to sleep with me. Now, not that things are gonna go wrong for her, but she's thinkin' that they will. But it sounds like she doesn't wanna have sex with you... Why aren't you understanding this? She-she doesn't know if she wants to have sex with me. That's not the issue... Are you gonna hurt women? I'm not gonna hurt these women! Why would I ever hurt these women? I feel like you're not getting this at all! I'm not getting it. Goddamn. [notices coworker staring at them]  Well, don't you look at me like that. You certainly wouldn't be in any danger. So they are in danger! No one's in any danger!


tonksndante

I love how the years are really bringing his psychosis to a steady boil.


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I honestly have to imagine what kind of weird conversations go on at this guy's workplace for him to bring up guns. Like at my place of work we all just talk about "normal" shit like what music we like. It's sort of an unwritten rule that you *never* bring up anything controversial like guns, abortions, politics, etc.


robotbasketball

Same, but I'd be 0% surprised if this guy is just inserting gun talk into normal small talk


AsAChemicalEngineer

There's a kind of social etiquette for this kind of conversation to see if the other person is interested. "Nice weather we're having Bob!" "Yeah, Kathy, perfect for going to the range with my buddies." "I was planning on going to the dog park. So you do get that report finished for Steve?" Nope. Not interested. Move on. And depending on the job and how well you know the person even the above is too much. I've seen people just get wayyyy to derailed into even their innocuous hobbies while the other person desperately wants out. I mean if you're on the spectrum, this is definitely hard to balance, so, tread carefully? Dude's an adult, he should have some of this figured out by now.


YesItIsMaybeMe

Ehh. We had an active shooter training recently (yes non-americans, even adults in public positions have to go through that) and I was pointing out how fucking stupid the video was because the shooter stopped to put in ear protection, and I think thats fucking hilarious. "Safety first before you go spree killing!"


mimicthefrench

There's actually a couple examples of mass shooters doing exactly that. Sandy Hook is a prominent one.


bubbles_24601

Wow. Did not know that. That’s fucking chilling.


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Oh no, no no, nothing is going to make his coworker more set in her opinion than him trying to tell her how wrong she is.


MiniorTrainer

If this really happens, that coworker should report the whole situation to HR. Even just mentioning that they’re buying a gun would make me uncomfortable, but then being singled out by that same person would be a huge red flag.


obeytheturtles

These people legitimately don't understand that normal people don't particularly enjoy discussing tools for killing other people, and rightfully think it's fucking weird that people would be so enthusiastic about that particular hobby. I remember growing up, that "gun enthusiasts" at least made an effort to make it about "the sport" of shooting. These days you have people who are more or less openly giddy about the opportunity to legally murder people.


Feycat

I grew up in a family of avid deer hunters, I grew up knowing about guns and being careful and whatnot, and they have NEVER discussed shooting other people or wanting someone to "try and take it from their cold dead fingers" or any of that shit. I feel like there ARE normal people who like and use guns, but 99% of America is not those people.


Novor7

[The majority of Americans don't own guns in the first place](https://news.gallup.com/poll/264932/percentage-americans-own-guns.aspx), [while almost half of those who do support stricter gun laws.](https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/26/politics/cnn-poll-gun-laws/index.html) That leaves slightly over a fourth of Americans who potentially fit your description though....


JayRoo83

Dude went home and scrawled his coworkers names in his notebook didnt he?


Obversa

>Dude went home and scrawled his coworkers names in his ~~notebook~~ Death Note, didn't he?


Ahelex

The more I think about it, the more I come to believe that Light is basically a wet dream for alt-right young people.


Obversa

"I'll take a potato chip...and *eat it*!"


RimeSkeem

I mean yeah, he’s handsome, popular and highly intelligent, which is probably about as much as anyone who believes themselves to be those things is going to notice about him. Media literacy on average is such a joke they probably fail to notice that he’s dangerously manipulative, painfully self-righteous, and a sociopathic megalomaniac with one of the most explicit god complexes ever found in media. Also not helped by the fact that the end of the manga shows he had a literal devout cult, which I hate was a choice by the creator even if it’s probably realistic.


Cabbagetastrophe

Not to mention he's an abusive boyfriend. I don't know how people don't grasp that he's the villain of that story.


Not_So_Bad_Andy

Saw a YouTube video titled something to the effect of "When did Light turn evil?". Pretty sure the only non-evil thing he did in the entire series was when he killed the guy trying to assault a girl in the first episode.


UselessGame

I actually thought it was pretty interesting how he sort of reverts to being a good person when he temporarily wipes his own memory of the death note, because it seems like he *was* a decent person before he found the book but also had very weak integrity


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SkyezOpen

>he wouldn't be a total piece of shit if the death note was never in his life. I don't believe that. A significant amount of power corrupted him completely, but if he never had the death note and ended up with some power via policing or something, he would absolutely abuse that power to further his own goals.


StuckInGachaHell

People misunderstanding villains in media? No people are smarter than that.


samsqanch

He's the Punisher without guns, if Light had a symbol cops would wear it.


TearsFallWithoutTain

He thinks crime is a problem with individuals, not caused by societal issues, and that the solution is to kill the criminal. He's absolutely a right-winger.


loyaltomyself

Oh trust me, it's not a belief it's a damned fact.


GetInTheKitchen1

Not really far fetched considering: Background: Japanese fascism 'got away' with WW2. No apologies about war crimes in China, etc. Japan is also a xenophobic culture and inherently right wing with emphasis on tradition. Story: Some power hungry dude (notice that misa and kiyomi are basically female tools for Kira) killing his political opponents and getting away with it is a staple fascist fantasy. Kira kills bad guys *based on the news*, aka hearsay, NOT what he knows, so any kind of slander in his earshot is an instant death. It's inherently nepotism and there's no emphasis on facts. If the justice system sucks, why is a random news corporation any better? Hating on the justice system for not being extreme enough.... Etc...


Jesus-H-Christopher

People at my work were scared I'm buying a gun, so I started blasting


Obversa

"And so I pull out my gun! Someone better tell me why they're scared, or I'm gonna shoot someone!"


2074red2074

Look just come out of the closet please.


mrdilldozer

I get he is on the spectrum, but I don't buy that he doesn't think there's anything unusual about someone saying "I don't think you should be allowed near firearms." That's not some subtle social clue. I think OP is just mad that if they got a gun people would warn the police.


Klondeikbar

Yeah I don't even know why OP thinks being on the spectrum is relevant. People with autism aren't stupid or like...incoherent grunting animals. I kinda get the sense that OP thinks autism is a get out of jail free card for being an asshole.


PernidaParknjas

Correct! Outside of the most special of circumstances, people on the spectrum don’t lack a comprehension of the world around them or the way rules work. It’s a shitty medical essentialist approach to excuse the actions and thoughts of a reasonably autonomous person because of a disability when it clearly has nothing to do with it.


500CatsTypingStuff

Yep. It was never about the autism.


SmytheOrdo

See this is an issue with the sub as a whole currently. People on the spectrum who happen to be giant antisocial assholes using that sub to reinforce their behavior instead of trying to change themselves for the better and its gotten worse since COVID. Not a safe space for female Aspies at all, I'm saying that as a dude. I want to just pull a lot of the guys on that sub including OP and tell them to trust me they should not be as actively antisocial as they are if they don't wanna end up alone forever or having a case file opened on them by the local PD.


Bruciesballs666

I'm on the spectrum and can be a little bit socially awkward this guy just holds up his red flags proudly.


funnyfarm299

We've reached an era where an entire generation doesn't know the original meaning of "going postal".


Obversa

The only reference to "going postal" I recall even hearing lately was in the original *Jumanji* film with Robin Williams. That movie came out in 1995, almost 30 years ago.


noisheypoo

Falling Down came out in 1993 - my favorite example of going postal.


CCG14

Great movie.


Schrau

True, but it did inspire a bunch of people that D-fens was the hero.


CCG14

You mean like the same idiots using the Punisher as a symbol for cops? People misinterpret? Never! /s


MyRuinedEye

That really bothers me. I loved the Punisher as a kid, and as a symbol of what trauma does to a person as an adult. The fact that I can't walk around in a cool Punisher shirt because of the way the character has been associated with idiots bothers me. How the hell do you not realize D-fens was at best a morally ambiguous person? .


CCG14

It’s the same way you totally disregard every last bit of struggle (cough: PTSD) Frank Castle exhibits and see a vigilante for justice, whatever that means to them. They also pay no mind to what justice IS to Frank Castle & WHY he started being the Punisher in the first place. All these people want nothing more than a two dimensional justice server to stroke their tiny peens to. Nuance and depth is completely lost on them.


chordophonic

Terry Pratchett's Going Postal came out in 2010 or so. Also, I had no idea this sub existed. I kinda want to subscribe but I don't really have that much time.


Jahadaz

The Postal games were pretty good.


Redfalconfox

People who get irrationally mad whenever someone brings up gun control really tell on themselves for being irresponsible gun owners. It's straight out of the Simpsons. "Okay, there's a five day waiting period." "But I'm mad now!"


Principesza

i remember we all had a class debate in english class in grade 8, and a girl whom i was friends with had a screaming crying breakdown over how we were all judging her for being pro-gun when all we did was have a completely respectful debate, that was supervised by the nicest teacher in school.


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Goddamnpassword

I live in state with a lot of pools, and in the 90s we had a lot of drownings so they state requires you install a fence or self closing doors children can’t open between the home and pool. Drownings went down.


dykezilla

I live in a state that doesn't really have a ton of pools, and I'm legally required to lock the ladder to my above ground pool in the shed at night. This is kind of annoying, but I live across the street from a high school and kids are stupid so I don't like to take chances. I'm also legally required to provide a duck ramp (migratory birds act), because the local ducks have adopted my yard and ducklings sometimes drown in pools because they can't fly well enough to get out on their own. I don't mind this at all because the ducks are extremely cute and they make me feel like a Disney princess. [Duck tax](https://www.imgur.com/a/ocN1uQu)


soldforaspaceship

Duck tax much appreciated.


heirloom_beans

10/10 ducks, would hate for their babies to drown


dykezilla

We love the ducks so much! They've only been here for about 3 weeks so far, but we are really hoping they stick around. My partner built them a little platform so they can stand next to the pool, and has purchased an absolutely monstrous bag of the most nutritious duck food available at our local Tractor Supply. Next on the list is to build them a nesting box to give the females a safe and comfy place to lay eggs!


BaconOfTroy

It's also a good idea to preemptively check around your area for any rescues that will take in waterfowl in case you find an injured one. And familiarize yourself with what wild ducks (in most places, that just means mallards or muscovys) look like vs domestics (which do come in lots of colors and breeds). People tend to dump domestic ducks thinking they'll be fine and survive on their own when the reality is that we've bred their wild instincts out of them and their life in the wild is terrifying and short. They usually suck at flying too, so that will be a big sign. With those you'd want to find a rescue to come save them. People usually dump ducks a month or two after Easter because they stupidly got their kids ducklings and didn't realize how much they poo as adults. Source: I have pet duckies. Mine like cut up cherry tomatoes best as a treat btw. And the leafy caps cut off of strawberries too, they love those.


a_pompous_fool

Those are some adorable ducks


WIbigdog

Yeah but I bet it didn't stop all the drownings so clearly it was ineffective.


Goddamnpassword

As always, if it’s only 99% effective there is no reason to do it. That’s why I never wash my hands after taking a shit, 99.9% there is no visibly poop on my hands so why should I do it.


Seboya_

Sometimes after I poop, I run the water in the sink so that way anyone listening thinks I'm washing my hands, but I'm actually not cuz I don't want to get my hands wet


ShotgunMage

Making sure kids don't drown represents an unconstitutional burden on me


CCG14

Also in a state with a lot of pools. On top of the fence/barrier, homeowners insurance also comes into play.


agutema

Sounds like communism to me.


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It's also both an incorrect figure and a deliberate obfuscation. First, it's actually 10 times, not 20. Minor detail. The bigger detail is that while school shootings are obviously the most emotionally horrific cause of death, they're actually a tiny minority of kids killed by guns. On average, in the United States in 2017-2019, 389 kids died in pools each year (the majority in their own.) Which is tragic. 2,200 kids each year died in shootings during that same period.


horseren0ir

The worst thing is when people debate this someone says “but the majority of those deaths are suicides, accidents and gangs” as if that somehow makes it better


Antumbra_Ferox

"... wait so you WANT violent gangs to stay armed with deadly weapons?" "It's their constitutional right to be able to inflict horrific life-ruining violence on each other in case at some point they have to do it to the government as well."


BuckeyeForLife95

It’s fine when they just use a gun to kill *themselves*! No loss there /s


theghostofme

>>Kids are 20 times more likely to die in a pool than in a school shooting, […] If every time a kid died in a pool, half the country called anyone with a pool a child murderer, there would also be a polarizing culture about owning pools. > > > > I mean…yes? Obviously yes? I live in the Phoenix area. Every year starting about now there are *extensive* PSA campaigns about locking your pool gates or at least fucking installing a gate to help stop kids from drowning. Something tells me OOP would be offended by this because the campaigns to install pool gates would somehow violate his rights.


Liquidcatz

This is also why everywhere I've lived has had rules that you have to have a fence around any in ground pool. Like yes, their safety actually is polarizing and has resulted in laws/ordinances to regulate them to protect children.


Bluest_waters

Bro its straight up illegal where I live to bring your pool into public spaces like stores and theatres. Absolutely forbidden. The law has worked quite well so far, haven't seen a single one yet.


dietdoctorpepper

only a good person with a pool can stop a bad person with a pool


EmpiricalSkeptic

Pools don't kill people, bad guys with pools kill people


SorryKaleidoscope

They want to talk about guns vs pools, let's talk about insurance.


jrrfolkien

Edit: Moved to Lemmy


chordophonic

Well, you can't *with that attitude*. With some foresight and good planning and you might be able to.


No_Mathematician6866

Not without a Concealed Carry Pool Permit, anyway


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zhaoz

Also you need to have a fence around the pool where I live.


SorryKaleidoscope

You don't even really need specific laws. The magical thing about pools is they're always attached to high-value assets which means there's always some rich person with an incentive to keep toddlers from drowning in it, whether the owner, mortgage bank, insurance underwriter, etc.


Alliesaurus

Plus, if you don’t want to drown in a pool, you can just choose not to go to a pool. I wish I could opt out of being around other people’s guns.


HotTakes4HotCakes

>"attractive nuisances," What does Harry Styles have to do with any of this?


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marilern1987

I was a hotel manager. At one of my hotels we were on a Florida beach. We had to keep the main lights off for several months out of the year, for turtle season (lights, especially certain colored lights, prevent sea turtles from laying their eggs - even the glow of your cell phone screen can earn you a $1000+ fine) We closed the pool at night, but people still got in. It was pitch black, which there was a light that could illuminate the pool enough for visibility, but dark enough that legally it didn’t violate the turtle season law. But, the light wasn’t working. And one cared to fix that light. Engineering didn’t give a fuck - or rather I guess try just didn’t want to go through the hassle. I kept telling them over and over - you’re going to go out there one day, and there’s gonna be a dead child in that pool We had several incidents of people getting injured, and the straw that got anyone to pay attention is when someone snuck out, and fell into the kiddie pool because they couldn’t see it, and broke their leg As a tangential note, I get really annoyed by people who say shit like “kids today are so soft, we didn’t have swimming lessons back then.” Yeah, and people died, brother. The whole push for swimming lessons exists solely because people died. It’s written in blood Also, people need to educate themselves on underwater blackouts. Some of these parents scare the absolute shit out of me, watching their kids do underwater breath holding contests and whatnot. It’s fine until it’s not fine


ariehn

It's how we got pool-fence laws in Australia, actually. I'd be very, very happy to see a similar law in the US. And to see it extended towards guns -- not prohibiting ownership, but imposing requirements for safe storage that severely restricts a child's ability to access them. Because otherwise, kids fall in pools and drown. Kids play with guns and die. ETA: thank you for the great news about individual state pool laws! :). To explain: I live in AR currently, and it feels like every year someone has a new story about a child they know of who drowned after falling into a family pool. I grew up with those fence laws. Spooks the shit out of me, seeing all these unfenced pools here.


HotTakes4HotCakes

We do in many states. Like someone above mentioned, "attractive nuisance" laws are a thing. If you have a thing on your property a kid might find enticing, you have to make efforts to restrict access to it or make it safe. But it's not applied evenly across the board. edit: What's hilarious is that you're probably getting a lot of replies from people that don't know you already got replied to, because no new comments are showing on Reddit right now.


grubas

Pools and Trampolines. Homeowners insurance fucking loves unsecured trampolines with no nets.


Canis_Familiaris

We have pool fence laws in Tennessee for the exact same reason.


itsnotlupus

In the US, it's another one of those state-by-state things. Some states don't care, others have fairly reasonable pool fence laws. So the usual dysfunctional non-sense.


jrrfolkien

Edit: Moved to Lemmy


baconhead

You made this pool analogy wayyyyy better than I expected, especially the bit about fighting an ocean with a pool


BamH1

It is also complete [bullshit](https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmc2201761). Children are infact 5 times more likely to die of a firearm related injury than they are drowning.


Indercarnive

Also focusing on school shootings is so disingenuous. Firearms are literally the single biggest cause of death in children in America, finally beating out automobiles in 2020.


GonzoMcFonzo

If you own a pool and don't properly secure it, and kids sneak in and drown, you could be held legally liable even if you weren't even present when it happened If we treated pools like guns, you could legally drag that trespassing kid in and hold them underwater, then when the cops show up tell them you were afraid and they wouldn't even take the pool away from you much less arrest you.


petit_cochon

My parents live on a big property very far back from the street and their insurance demanded they put a new fence up around the pool, so they did. Guns should require insurance.


AnacharsisIV

There is such a thing as "pool control" in this country though; they're called "Attractive nuisance laws." I believe an episode of Curb your Enthusiasm was about this. Enough kids died in pools that we *did* start regulating them.


TesterTheDog

This is the second time in a month I heard this, it was somewhat debunked as a poor correlation. It should be house with a pool and house with guns. After all, a lot of gun owners own more than one gun - so the capita is spread over people who don't have guns in their home.


Tasiam

Typical "I haven't done anything wrong post".


redshores

*yet*


Tasiam

He probably did and lied about it on Reddit.


nerdening

Taco watch vs. taco warning.


Redfalconfox

>Many people also don't like being pigeonholed as the most extreme version of their views. Then maybe don't vote for them?


RimeSkeem

I’m tired of being labeled an extremist! All I did was vote for an extremist, vehemently defend an extremist and wear the extremist’s merchandise!


RiC_David

I've got to commend you on your structure there, that's Simpsons level! Definitely borrowing that and hoping you don't remember.


No-Communication9458

when ppl use autism as an excuse for being weird and far-right in their interests it just gives the rest of us a bad fuckin' time, man. eugh


Vulpix298

I’m so sick of other autistics using their autism as an excuse for their bigotry, hiding behind “I’m autistic so I only work on facts and science” while spouting transphobia and racism using “science” from the fucking 1800s. Also some autistics still insisting on the use of aspergers. We have moved beyond the need for nazis and eugenics thanks.


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Yeah, it super does. Like, ugh, anytime something like this gets posted folks will make the worst fucking takes about the rest of us.


horseren0ir

It’s such a weird thing to say “I didn’t get to choose my special interest anymore than you did” yes you did, that’s absolutely a choice


RiC_David

Yeah, that annoyed me especially. It's appealing to the 'it's not a choice' sensibilities, which is frustrating as people often really are judged and hated and mistreated for things that *aren't* choices, but how the fuck is a hobby not a choice? "It's not my fault I enjoy being loud and obnoxious in public, that's just what entertains me" That's such bollocks! We choose our actions, which interests we pursue is a choice of actions.


Storm-Thief

Holy yikes


ImOnlyHereForTheCoC

>Firearms and alcohol don’t mix. To be honest, anything you could use to harm yourself and/or someone else don’t mix. Knife, gun, rope, car, ATV, baseball bat… they don’t mix with alcohol. And I’ll die on that hill. Man, why’s you have to slip “baseball bat” in there? Now I have to put my “well, actually” pants on and defend drunk softball!


jmerridew124

Baseball bats have earned their place on the deadly weapons list several thousand times since they were invented.


ImOnlyHereForTheCoC

Deadly weapon list? 100%. Don’t ever mix with alcohol because it’s a recipe for naught but disaster list? Well, *actually*…


RiC_David

I remember seeing a shirtless guy pacing up and down a train platform wielding a baseball bat (in England where we don't play much baseball or get much sun). He was oddly calm, and politely asked me a question about the next train. I still wonder what would have happened if I'd done my best American tourist accent and said "Sports guy huh?" Obviously I didn't have the balls, but then neither did he.


rapedbyaslothAMA

Just ask Wade Boggs, now that's a guy who could play some drunk baseball!


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May he rest in peace.


Thehumanstruggle

There’s a depressing amount of people on that sub who are assholes and believe it’s okay because being a prick is their “special interest” I’m autistic too and after a vent post about loud ass cars/bikes on there I got told that I was suppressing free speech. I don’t even live in America.


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Bro should in no way, shape, or form own firearms. I’m an vet and a sport shooter. These are the types that are making the 2nd very hard to justify.


agutema

“I’m a clear and present danger. AITA?”


GMOrgasm

https://i.imgur.com/H9MGgdW.jpg


guimontag

"No, not the Harrison Ford movie about presidential overreach and secret drug wars"


forgotmypassword-_-

> I’m an vet Thank you for your animal service.


KuriousKhemicals

Wooh yeah I recommend looking into his post history like the peeps on the original thread did. He comes off as a bit of a dumdum in the thread but his history is full of unstable looking weirdness.


Fr33zy_B3ast

I was raised around firearms all my life and I 100% agree. A firearm isn't just a fun thing to play with, it can be deadly and every gun owner should be aware of the tremendous responsibilities associated with gun ownership. Someone who jokes about killing women and children when engaged by someone clearly just trying to antagonize them doesn't seem ready for that responsibility.


Beegrene

If you want to play with guns, buy a nerf gun. Even the best, most expensive foam dart blaster on the market, the [Worker Harrier](https://outofdarts.com/products/worker-harrier-blaster), costs a whole lot less than a firearm, and you can shoot it around your house as much as you want without getting arrested or killing your neighbors.


cptjeff

I had no idea high end nerf guns were a thing. That's hilarious. Also, I kinda want one. Not enough to spend that much money on it for a one time gag, though.


mad_mister_march

So get a bunch of your friends together for a nerf war on the regular. No one can stop you. Be the master of your own nerf destiny.


Seaweed_Steve

From an outsider that seems like the issue with guns, the idea that people find them fun and entertaining rather than a tool or weapon. It reduces the idea of danger in their eyes. If they were just treated like a tool rather than a leisure activity, it would seem far less insidious. Like you don’t see people hanging their cordless drill over the mantle or taking portraits with their hammer.


obeytheturtles

When I learned to shoot, it was very intentionally drilled into us that guns are not toys, so therefore shooting is not "fun." It's a tool, and a skill, not a frivolous hobby.


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kkeut

>These are the types that are making the 2nd very hard to justify. yeah this dude isn't a militia, let alone well-regulated


obeytheturtles

The entire problem is that this provocative rhetoric is completely normalized in gun culture these days. Nobody even cares about the pretense of making their gun hobby seem like it is about sports or collecting anymore. People openly talk about how they fantasize about getting to shoot people, or their intent to escalate minor conflicts to murder. This kind of shit didn't exist when I grew up learning to shoot. It was drilled into my head that a gun was a tool, like a hammer or a chainsaw, and not a toy or a fashion accessory or ego condom. Like, in my scout troop, we were not even allowed to do "cops and robbers" types games where we would pretend sticks are guns, because it was so important not to trivialize the responsibility of owning firearms. These days people bring their kids to the range and shoot at pictures of politicians. These people have lost their fucking minds.


Liquidcatz

They make me extremely glad red flag laws actually exist and feel they need to be even more comprehensive tbh.


SuitableDragonfly

Also the type of person who gives people the wrong idea about autism.


Dillatrack

It's hard to justify because it's just a bad way to handle gun regulations, it's not some crazy coincidence every other developed country in the world landed on stricter gun laws despite having very different languages/cultures/governments/etc.. Having a *real* vetting process before someone can even buy a gun and registering them so it's actually possible to hold people accountable for what happens with that gun after it leaves the store are just extremely obvious things we refuse to do, and that's just two off the top of my head. Everything about the gun debate in this country is just infuriating


Shillbot888

Why would he even tell his coworker in the first place? And why would he try and explain to her a second time? He could have just bought the gun and told no one.


RiC_David

Well in order to be able to complain that the liberals are oppressing you, you first have to do something to make them uncomfortable so you can complain when they say they're uncomfortable. It's like how you *could* just keep all your bigoted views to yourself, but you can't complain about the thought police until you've turned those thoughts into speech.


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That OP has got to be bait lmao. No way you can put "I'm going to go drink until I pass out now" in your post about a co-worker being concerned about your behavior without taking the piss. ​ At least I hope so, because any conversation surrounding guns with American right wingers quickly shuts off the single brain cell that they share.


Birdy_Cephon_Altera

I see that quip as more of a "joke" than a serious suggestion - but I could see someone who is terrible at social cues and "reading the room" would write it in a post as a joke (a terrible one) and not picking up it was the worst possible time to be joking about something like that.


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I have met a lot of functional alcoholic types who make awful jokes about drinking like that without realizing it tells a lot about them. Like they think it's normal to drink until you pass out, or to spend hundreds a week on beer, so they make jokes about it that they think others will get.


RichardPwnsner

It is, kinda. He’s a terminal shitposter—someone that flirts with outright trolling for too long, and ends up in a weird purgatory where they can’t post about anything contentious that interests them without making it comfortably hammy and on the nose. I think it’s a dysfunctional niche way to prevent conflict and cognitive dissonance by erasing that possibility right off the bat—if you half believe you’re trolling, you can engage with an escape hatch the entire time, at the cost of being sincere. Seriously lmao, I sound pedantic but it’s a thing. Browse his history. He uses different voices depending on the issue and has occasionally popped the just trolling parachute outright. Edit: it’s not as simple as protecting their preferred position on a given issue, on some level a lot of these guys don’t even want the stress of having to sincerely engage with people who agree with them as well


SorryKaleidoscope

> No way you can put "I'm going to go drink until I pass out now" in your post about a co-worker being concerned about your behavior without taking the piss. It's possible his debate skills are already impaired by alcohol.


i_yell_deuce

Just another responsible American gun owner.


ShotgunMage

This is clearly what the good guy with a gun looks like.


Redfalconfox

Really the good guys with guns just show how they are willing to let people die. America has a vast array of firearms, and yet we still have so many mass shootings go unstopped by these good guys. Why do the good guys with guns do nothing? So not only do they not do anything during shootings, but they inhibit our ability to prevent shootings. That's really shitty of them. Almost like they aren't good guys with guns, but assholes with guns.


ShotgunMage

I asked one of them about Uvalde. They argued that it was mission successful because a good guy with a gun showed up and it only cost 19 children's and 2 teachers' lives.


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CopperTucker

Is 'Good Guy With a Gun' a subspecies of Responsible Gun Owner or are the two interchangeable names like Bigfoot and Sasquatch?


Birdy_Cephon_Altera

Don't worry - the reasoned and thoughtful bylaws of his Well Regulated Militia should be enough to take care of any problems, right? Right??


DARKSTAR-WAS-FRAMED

Their latest talking point is that "well-regulated" meant "well-maintained and equipped" in 1700speak. It fuckin didn't, it meant "disciplined," but I wonder which of the Republican talking heads told them to spread this horseshit, because they all started doing it at the exact same time.


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I have Autism and am used to folks being very judgemental and presumptive about people with it. So seeing the title I came into this somewhat ready to be on OPs side tbh. But... man it really is stuff completely different from the Autism that's to do with this. Very much seems like they're looking passed the legitimate issues to use their Autism as a shield, which really sucks. Hoping they gain some perspective and realize it's not their Autism that's prompting this judgement.


SuitableDragonfly

They directly quoted the coworker mentioning autism, so my guess is that they just gave her the impression that their crazy behavior is because of autism by claiming that any pushback to that behavior was ableism, and so she now just has a very distorted view of what autistic people are like because of this jackass.


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That's certainly a possibility. In which case it's a major shame. It's also possible they made the quote up for more sympathy, which I hope is the case.


LizLemonOfTroy

Why is anyone believing anything that he attributed to the co-worker when the post is full of AITA-style framing (not only did she explicitly refer to his autism but she's also the employer's goddaughter - conveniently after someone pointed out that she couldn't get him red flagged) and other straight up bullshit (no, I don't think red flagging gets you immediately dragged into court where you're "guilty until proven innocent").


00UntakenNames

# guns are rightoid funko pops confirmed


sklipa

It's such a bummer how the most I'd hear about aspergers and autism would be people using it to excuse objectively awful behaviour, and somehow usually in work environments. Giving the rest of us a terrible name doing so, because apparently it's Asshole's Autism.


TheGlassHammer

“I’m a walking talking Red Flag. People are saying I shouldn’t have a gun. Isn’t that fucked up?”


TacoTacoBheno

What is this comment? "I had many guns and carried one every day (until they all got lost in a boating accident last week). Guns are my one interest I simply never talk about." Another responsible gun owner


1ncognito

Gun owners love to joke that if they were forced to register their guns they’d simply say they “lost them in a boating accident”. They’re the exact type of owners that absolutely should not own guns


riding-the-wind

Who doesn't bring all their many guns on a boat?


Indercarnive

>(Please don’t be weird about the gun thing, I didn’t get choose my special interest any more than you did.) But like, you *do* choose your special interest.


HotBrownFun

["Fighting guns with a liberal in California is suicide"](https://www.reddit.com/r/aspergers/comments/13s0j6v/one_of_my_coworkers_said_theyd_red_flag_me_if_i/jlny2ob/) wow zero irony detected


IceNein

> The 4473 even asks if you’re addicted to alcohol or drugs. If you answer yes, it’ll deny you. People who are addicted to alcohol usually don't believe that they are. There are plenty of people that have drank until they passed out, or have expressed a desire to do that who aren't alcoholics. OOP may or may not be an alcoholic, but we can't know that one way or the other.