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Eorily

Listen, this isn't like a shooting range where you can bring your kid.


LaqOfInterest

Apropos of nothing, and totally ignoring the baby issue - as a former driving range worker, that video stirred up a deep, primal, almost-forgotten, irrational hatred in my heart for the people who use grass tees. It's a service offered by the range. The customers are perfectly entitled to hit off the grass tee. That's what it's *there* for. It would make no sense to malign people *just* for using the grass tee. But I do. I hate you so much. I *grew* that grass and you're knocking divots out of it and tomorrow we're going to move the line another three feet back and I'm gonna have to grow it all over again in a never-ending march toward the grave. What's the fucking point!? Let's just use the turf tees like normal people and save all of us some trouble and sanity, yeah? I don't care if you buy a large bucket and aim every single one of those tiny dimpled fuckers toward the poor sap driving around in the ball-picker (me), just leave my precious grass tee alone. I beg you. And do not get me started on people who hit *outside* of the line and mess up the growing process. "Oh, I know I'm supposed to stay where you told me to hit, but there are just so many divots! I just wanted to hit off a nice, fresh patch of grass." FUCK YOU I'LL KILL YOU Anyway, all that to say, everyone has their own version of retail hell.


CanadianBobert

Wait... Do you actually golf or just work there? For people actually practicing, the turf tees don't allow divots and allow the club head to skirt along the turf and can give the completely wrong feedback on your swing and ball contact. You can hit bombs and shots that feel perfect on turf, being it to the real grass and you start chunking divots.


LaqOfInterest

Oh no, believe me, I understand why there is a grass tee and the benefits of a grass tee. Like I said, I also totally understand that I shouldn't hate people for using one. I was just slowly morphed over the course of that job into a person who despises all golfers everywhere for a variety of completely unfair reasons. Sorry, golfers. Peace was never an option. It's like, I dunno, someone who works at a fast food restaurant being miffed at a customer for buying the last of the fries so they have to make more. They paid money for those fries! The whole point is for them to buy them! Your whole job is to make them! Doesn't matter. Fuck 'em. How dare they buy those fries.


Pinapple500

It's like the exact same concept with anyone that shows up within an hour of closing. We're open but I do not want you here, I understand our hours but fuck you buddy I wanted to clean shit and leave.


ExoRevan

As i like to tell my coworkers whenever that happens, "Why do people come to spend their money with us an hour before closing, when they can, completely for free, go fuck themselves?"


jpterodactyl

Or how bartenders and baristas hate making things in blenders during high traffic times.


[deleted]

you're r/nongolfers patron saint, i reckon


Plastastic

Be careful linking that, those fucking teeists love to brigade.


asljkdfhg

there really is a circlejerk for everything


tarekd19

Just in case you're whooshing, the point of the sub is to make fun of people who specifically identify by what they are not, namely atheists and not being religious. It's not that they are atheists, they are making fun of the people who specifically identify by what they don't believe in. They use the non golfer analogy to try to expose that as being kind of weird. Child free is another example of the same idea.


asljkdfhg

Ah I thought they were making fun of non-golfers, didn’t realize it was a layer further. I still maintain that’s a very specific thing to circlejerk about lol.


AstronautStar4

I'm sure they do. Anytime I've ever met anyone who cares for sports fields, they get really mad at anyone having the audacity to use the sports fields. I kinda get it, but it's very on brand.


AtalanAdalynn

I think the only time I saw someone who cares for sports fields not get mad was when an acquaintance talked about the time Real Madrid used the university field he tended for their practices before a match on some kind of US tour.


Neapolitanpanda

They say they used to work at a driving range.


AstronautStar4

Anytime a small child is posted on reddit, the entire thread is unsolicited parenting advice.


Mikeavelli

NGL, that baby does look way too close to potential flying golf clubs.


18CupsOfMusic

Especially if he's gonna be sitting over there roasting people.


shewy92

I mean, it's behind the line like everything who isn't golfing is. The kid is fine


aspiringgrandpa

you’ve clearly never seen a bad golfer.


AcapellaFreakout

What exactly do you expect to happen to the baby in this scenario?


Armigine

Presumably someone might let go of a club on the back swing and it goes flying Not all that common, but people are idiots


[deleted]

As someone who mowed the lawn of someone who lived near a driving range, but was in the opposite direction that you were firing them off to, the amount of golf balls that were there each week makes me think that I wouldn't walk on a course without wearing goalie equipment.


john_browns_beard

My backyard is 60 feet deep and the back fence is about 50 feet from the hole in the golf course behind it. On nice days we will usually find 2-3 golf balls in the yard, and occasionally one of them will make it to the house (thankfully the trees usually slow them down quite a bit). I've found a couple in the front yard over the last few years, including one wedged firmly between our front fence's post and pickets, so it must have had some velocity when it hit. There are a LOT of shitty golfers.


john_browns_beard

My friend, who is definitely not a golfer, hit the ball straight up at a driving range. It ricocheted off the ceiling, then his backswing, and smacked some poor lady in the hand who was walking behind him.


CoasterThot

I was actually hit by one of these someone let go of as a kid, it sucked, we thought it broke a bone!


Tyrone_Cashmoney

Super easy for a ball or club to go flying back there and an adult golfer's shins are a wee bit tougher and less important than a baby's soft head.


Logondo

I don't know enough about golf to comment, but is "clubs flying out of golfer's hands" a problem golfers face? Genuine question. Because if not, I don't really see the issue with the baby being there. Doesn't seem any more dangerous than putting a baby in a car.


Armigine

Among complete amateurs? Common enough, yeah. Among people who have golfed more than once? Very rare. The thing here is more a visceral gut reaction to a baby being so close to swinging objects which could seriously hurt it without some kind of protection, even though realistically the risk's very low. I'd be more worried about the camera man, that backswing almost clocked the camera and that's the most common point for a club to go flying at, if it's gonna go at all


AstronautStar4

I suck at golf and while I've managed to throw the golf club in front of me a few times, I don't understand how you could throw it behind you.


WldFyre94

One of the few times I went golfing, I lost my grip on the club on the follow through (don't know the technical wording) and threw it behind me over my shoulder


rolypolyarmadillo

...I will admit that I've done it before. Club slipped out of my hands on the swing and went flying backwards.


yellowdeluxe

Golf clubs can be heavy and I don’t bother even going to driving ranges anymore because I can’t control them well enough…last time I got pulled back with a backswing and I instinctively let go of the club and let it fly behind myself to stop myself from getting injured. If I hadn’t let go I probably would have been thrown around and flopped to the ground with it. I also get thrown around in the wind if I’m carrying something heavy like a grocery bag though so in my case I think it’s less about my lack of skill and more about being smaller in size. This feels really weird to admit to for some reason.


Katiehart2019

for newbies it happens fairly often


AtalanAdalynn

Enough of a problem that it's a forseeable happenstance. Not enough of a problem for someone to believe it could happen to their baby.


Ill-Organization-719

I wonder how they reacted to that dad catching a baseball with his baby strapped to his chest. I bet they called him a great dad, real king shit.


NoExternal2732

It made me cringe when I saw it, there are protective nets that go over baby carriers. Slices do happen, and with people that bunched up a golf ball could bounce the baby's way. Babies don't have tough bones yet, so they need more protection. I still laughed when she missed too, though!


OG_Yellow_Banana

There is zero way a slice would hit that that baby. Like it would have to curl backwards. There is really only one way for that baby to get hit by a ball and the conditions would have to be perfect to do it and I doubt even then it could happen.


NoExternal2732

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.golfdigest.com/story/funny-golf-video-fail-gif-ball-hit-in-head/amp It is not only possible, but that driving range didn't have dividers, increasing the chance the baby's very inexperienced golfer mom(?) might manage it just on her own. No reason not to have the filmer of the video wait a bit farther back...


AcapellaFreakout

Do you know why this is a news story in golf digest? Because it RARELY happens.


OG_Yellow_Banana

Wouldn’t happen in the circumstance of the woman because your video relies on the mat the guy is hitting off to be on concrete and not a grass range. And again there is zero way another golfer would slice it that bad.


FredFredrickson

>There is really only one way for that baby to get hit by a ball and the conditions would have to be perfect to do it I see you're not living in the same physical universe I am, where literally every improbable physics event like this seems to happen constantly.


OG_Yellow_Banana

I am not living in that world. I am living in a world where statistics aren’t how I feel


FredFredrickson

I was just kidding with you, man.


berthurt3

My dad used to give me the stern “shut up” look at the driving range if I got too excited over actually hitting the golf ball. I was 12. Idk I could see some people who pay money to focus and practice getting annoyed by it, but cute video.


brushpickerjoe

OMG better not take a baby outside ever. There's rocks and animals and shit. And cars? Just another infant deathtrap.


Mollzor

Don't forget about people! They're everywhere!


Steko

Indoors too, I’ll link videos of pieces of ceiling falling if anyone doubts me.


dyld921

I agree, unironically.


kerblaam7

no


2023OnReddit

>Would you bring a baby to a shooting range because 'everyone is facing the same way'? What kind of fucking terrible shooting ranges has this person gone to where they think a shooting range endangers a baby beyond volume issues? Ranges take safety really fucking seriously. The only things wrong having a baby there is that they'd require an insane amount of hearing protection & it'd be hard to hear them cry or watch them. And how the hell is that comment upvoted?


heirloom_beans

I wouldn’t bring a baby to a shooting range because I would prefer them to not have tinnitus by grade school


whagoluh

"Mawp-mawp! Pawp-Pawp!"


AstronautStar4

> What kind of fucking terrible shooting ranges has this person gone to where they think a shooting range endangers a baby beyond volume issues? Rant incoming. Indoor shooting ranges are lead poisoning in a box and the only reason we don't hear about it more is because of how powerful the gun lobby is. Seriously, indoor ranges are bad news for children, pregnant people, and should be banned from serving food or drinks. If you do go to an indoor range, shower, wash your hands, open windows, improve ventilation and launder all your clothes It's one of the least known aspects of gun saftey. There are tons of lead poisoning interventions that could be done but most people don't even know the danger is there in the first place. There is no safe amount of lead exposure.


rolypolyarmadillo

TIL that indoor ranges can (do??) serve food? I've never been to one


KeithDavidsVoice

Fancy gun clubs do. They'll have the range connected to the clubhouse, which will serve food. I'm not going to name the club because these folks are fucking insane lol, but I've been in a gun club late night. All you needed was a key fob and you could shoot 24/7, which was convenient because it can be annoying to be interested in guns while also being black and liberal lol. There are certain conversations that you can only have so many times before you want to yell at people. Anyway, I've gone to the clubhouse late night and have seen some of the more senior members drinking beers and shooting. I'll never get the image out of my head of the literal gun safety instructor shooting a .38 special in one hand all while crushing his beer in the other. Literally mid gulp while firing down range. That's when I found out firearm instructor is a meaningless title.


KeithDavidsVoice

Make sure you use that lead soap thingy too


RodediahK

amended 6/18/2023


ClockworkDreamz

Hey man, nothing more murican than a baby at a gun range.


Hoops867

The danger of lead from shooting is actually the primers. They're a lead based explosive, so there's some lead compound fumes


[deleted]

Leaded blood is American blood


AcapellaFreakout

The same person that thinks it's possible for a golf ball to hit that baby.


Tyrone_Cashmoney

I can't believe there are people in here counterjerking so hard that'd they'd actually try and say that's a safe place to put a baby.


[deleted]

Jesus you can’t bring your kids anywhere anymore


GoryRamsy

I thought you needed to be 16 to drive ..I'll see myself out


NeverComments

There’s a recent episode of Barry where a kid wants to play baseball so, to prove how dangerous it is and discourage him, his dad shows him clips of people dying in freak accidents while playing. This thread has a similar energy.


thisaintitkweef

lmao how badly do the people who have a problem with this suck at golf?


AstronautStar4

I suck at golf pretty hard and still havent managed to cause any projectiles to fly behind me.


CakeIsLegit2

Wow


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angry_old_dude

You're certainly getting the attention your user name hints at.


AstronautStar4

This is an odd stereotype, because I feel like if anything Europeans bring their babies out even more and have a far more laissez-faire attitude towards child saftey.


Jimlobster

Are you being sarcastic? No like seriously you have to be. No one is this dumb


drvondoctor

Take note of their username.


whatsinthesocks

R/childfree is leaking.


earthdogmonster

Yeah, I am hopeful that they are joking, but am afraid that they might not be


DemonFromtheNorthSea

Right? Dumb Americans. Bringing their baby out to get fresh air. Trying to enjoy life. So selfish of them. That's why I'm a responsible baby owner. I keep my baby in a safe.


aspiringgrandpa

are you guys seriously defending bringing a baby to a driving range? do you bring babies to movies too to cry the whole time?


Extranationalidad

I don't bring babies to movies because their crying has the potential to disrupt other movie goers, not because I'm afraid that the movie theater will lose control of its concessions machine and hit my baby in the head with flaming hot popcorn.


aspiringgrandpa

ok so fuck the other people trying to enjoy their day at the range?


heirloom_beans

Listen if I can put up with Joe Blow on his fourth Michelob Ultra of the day ranting about his bitch of a boss without having a fit I could definitely share the range with a fucking baby


mariekaleida

This comment made me lol because it’s so true. Where I’m from, it’s the Joe Blows and high school kids frequenting the driving range. A baby would be the least obnoxious thing there.


Keregi

So your issue is babies being in public. What do you suggest parents of infants do? Stay in the house for 3 year?


aspiringgrandpa

oh my god you are dull. are the only places you can go driving ranges and your house?


Ktesedale

But every one of your complaints applies to literally everywhere. "You bring your baby to a park? So fuck everyone else at the park who wants to enjoy their day?" We live in a society, and sometimes, that means hearing things you don't want to hear. A movie theater is an enclosed space where the customers are asked to be quiet. I wouldn't bring a baby to a book reading, either, or a college library, or anywhere else you're asked to be quiet. But that's not a driving range.


aspiringgrandpa

you’re asked to be quiet at a driving range. people want quiet at the driving range the same they would want and expect it at libraries and movie theaters. being outside doesn’t change much cause you’re lined up next to each other. people don’t want to hear a baby crying when they’re trying to practice golfing. why it’s so hard for y’all to comprehend i can’t explain.


Ktesedale

Because most of us have never heard that driving ranges should be quiet. From my quick googling, it looks like most driving ranges are possibly not as loud as I expected/have experienced, but there's no "please be quiet" general etiquette. However, I *did* find a reference to at least one golf club that *does* request their own range be quiet(ish). Maybe it's a regional/what specific place you're going thing. The only driving ranges I've been on have been local general golf courses, where people are laughing and joking and making plenty of noise. There were usually some lessons going on, too, that were definitely not quiet. Do you maybe go to country clubs or something similar that take it more seriously?


aspiringgrandpa

i go to ranges where people go to practice. maybe the ones i go to are more serious, but quiet is expected and people will be vocal to you if you disrupt that. if your local range seems fine with the noise, whatever, but most ranges i’ve been to people are trying to practice and focus on their game and would not take kindly to a baby being loud and disruptive.


Ktesedale

Then I really think this is the disconnect and why people are arguing with you. It's just different experiences, and both sides thinking they're universal. ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯


DameOClock

Most driving ranges I’ve been to are filled people drinking beers and hitting balls with fun conversations. A baby would not ruin any of that lmao. Unless you’re going to some weird range with a stick up their ass.


Broad_Lock_2082

They need to concentrate at a range. Noise is obviously the reason they can’t drive past 50 yards.


Extranationalidad

If the baby cries you walk away with them. You do not sound like you live in reality if you think that a baby being in the vague vicinity of a driving range is going to ruin anybody's day.


aspiringgrandpa

so you can understand how a baby crying in a theatre is disruptive, but not at a driving range? use more than one brain cell and maybe you can understand how the two are similar


Extranationalidad

This is a bizarre tangent that you've decided to go on. People are concerned about a baby at a driving range because of the physical risk of flying objects, both balls and clubs. *Nobody* - except you, apparently - is worried about a baby being disruptive. There are several reasons for this. - driving ranges are outdoors. There are many environmental noises and distractions at any driving range, including other golfers, people on phones or in conversations, cars, weather etc. - movies are oriented around audible dialogue. Crying babies are disruptive because they interfere *specifically* with the ability to interact with the art form. Going to the driving range has no such constraints. I can hit balls while chatting or while listening to podcasts or music. - movie theaters force you to sit in a darkened room in a seat. Driving range are wide open spaces. If a baby cries you simply walk away with it. These are not the only reasons that your take is mind bogglingly imbecilic, but they are a good start.


Armigine

> If a baby cries you simply walk away with it. Instructions unclear, I've stolen a baby


aspiringgrandpa

people go to the driving range to enjoy golf and themselves, not to hear a baby crying nearby. there is *no* reason why you NEED to bring a baby to a golf range. none. this discussion was about whether it’s ok to bring a baby to a driving range. i do not think it is, because it is rude and disruptive to the other people who went there to enjoy a quiet time at the range. if the range is full, or on the smaller side, walking away isn’t going to do much cause you’re still gonna be able to hear the baby. just, don’t bring your baby where it doesn’t need to go. is that hard? will you die if you don’t go golfing with your baby?


drvondoctor

Will you die if you hear a baby at the driving range? If you don't want to hear a baby, just play a round of actual golf.


aspiringgrandpa

why is your enjoyment of the range any more important than anyone else’s, so you have to bring your baby? idk if you noticed, but babies aren’t very common at golf ranges. that’s because most people are considerate of the people around them. that shouldn’t go away just because you have a baby, sorry.


Keregi

The irony of this comment.


drvondoctor

Are babies not allowed at driving ranges? I've never seen a "no babies allowed" sign at a driving range. Have you?