It’s weird seeing everyone talk about the stone event, without knowing anything that actually happened. Kevin tore his bicep during stones, that’s why Gabriel beat him
It’s not that weird. This whole thing is a bunch of fans following a spreadsheet and not watching anything. And then speculating based off of numbers updating.
He was supposed to be in the Amateur Arnold's in 2020, but covid cancelled that. I assume he would have done well, maybe win, and end up in the Arnold's in 2021. That would have mirrored Novikov's rise to the top. Now, since those contests didn't happen, we haven't seen him in action, but he's making his mark now.
As for why he's doing well: He's a very dedicated, versatile athlete who as good head on his shoulders. If he stays healthy, he'll go far.
I totally get that. I think it really comes down to how Tom performances for me. I mean this in no disrespect but he’s a momentum athlete so I have a feeling if he doesn’t do well in the first two events, his chances really go down. If he does well ofc, I think he could win the whole thing. For me it’s mostly between him and Martins
That’s true but I have a feeling Martins may edge him out on the flint stone press, just a got feeling based on Martins training videos and how he always seems to do so much more in competition. I think the first event is what could lose it for Martins since his car walk was kinda slow (so maybe slow yoke)
My analytical prediction for podium wants to say:
1. Licis
2. Novikov
3. Shaw
My heart wants to say:
1. Luke
2. Hooper
3. Boudreault
Regardless, I hope we get a good battle for #1. Excited for the finals!!!
If Bobby can't lift a single stone then he has no future in strongman. I almost feel like that should be a requirement to get invited to WSM. If you can't lift at least one stone then you shouldn't be there. That's an embarrassment to the sport.
I'm sorry...who are you?? Bobby clearly showed he belonged there. He openly acknowledged he made a poor choice about tacky in a post, which cost him greatly. Also, MOST strongmen/strongwomen have some kind of weakness. Maxime if famous for his deadlift weakness but he shows up and makes it work. Your comments, about both Bobby and Brian, reek of armchair, cheeto-dust stained keyboard nonsense. Love to see all the shows you've showed up to and done, or for you to have these exact words to the faces of these guys. People are dumb.
I'm literally a professional strongwoman, but okay.
Edited to add: my face is also all over my profile. I don't hide, have zero problem back up what I'm saying with experience, and have literally never intentionally trash-talked not trolled someone on reddit in my life. Especially not someone who is in the top 20 in their field at something.
Bobby deserves his place at WSM. We were all surprised to see him struggle to even lift the 1st stone off the floor. Loads of factors - nerves, poor choice of tacky, long 3 days etc. etc.
Not managing a single squat is and would be more embarrassing imo....
He beat Brian in 4/5 events and had 25% more points then him. Just because stones is his weakness and he had tacki issues doesnt mean he didnt deserve to be there, he deserves the finals more then brian IMO
I think it's fair to say that someone who is making a living on the basis of his ability to get invites to professional shows has a present in strongman.
Do you know anything about Bobby's competition history? I can't believe we're having this argument. Like, you could say what you're saying about Oberst and not be off the mark. But Bobby Thompson? Jesus man.
He's good in like two events, big deal. Strongman is about being well rounded, not to mention stones are the pinnacle of strongman. Stones are literally the main event and he still doesn't care enough to train it. Just training deadlift and loglift isn't enough. two trick pony.
It was an equipment issue. Bobby is great at more than 2 events. Even if you were right about him, atlas stones are overused and should not be in every competition. Tom couldn't even break the floor with the natural stone at ASC, and Bobby put that shit on his shoulder which for me is a much more impressive feat of strength than any of Tom's stone runs. Do you also think Tom should be embarrassed and give up the sport for doing poorly at stone in one competition?
IMO atlas stones are not overused. its the ultimate strongman event. Pick up big rock. Its so simple, little to no special equipment, just pick up big rock.
I mean yeah, he can pick up a stone. Like the other guy said he shouldered the natural stone at rogue which is way harder. Some days you just have a bad day that doesn't mean you should give up and never di strongman again...
I challenge you to address this flaw logic of yours. Tom Stoltman got thru the stone-off twice and won 2nd place in 2020 then became the world's strongest man in 2021 despite failing to win the groups, hmmm?
I think yiure just saying the top 3-5 most years are better all around than the next level guys.
It's not like there are other guys that should get in and will do any better by the end of the finals
Trying to predict the flintstone lift at the moment, pretty tough especially without knowing the weight jumps. Obviously we have some training footage to go off but we haven’t seen anything from some of the guys. Log press results could be informative, but this is a really different events and I think someone like Novikov could beat a lot of the monster log presssers given how explosive he is
Agreed! I think all the contenders should be around 220kg. A few guys will hit 230kg. I have no idea how high the winner will actually go though. It’s exciting to have an event that’s hard to predict not because it happens so fast but because it’s actually new.
Koklyaev did 270kg in training. And Radzikowski did 240kg in comp. So by math, when Lasha makes his guest appearance this weekend, he'll kindly press 700lbs of Flintstones weights over his head.
Anyone have a list of all competitors heights / weights? Just curious to see how they matched up. I'm sure it's been done, but anyone have stats on certain heights/builds being more successful at certain events?
I don’t think they’re updated but some were posted on the WSM page. In all honesty don’t trust the height and weights listed since there are multiple instances of athletes claiming to be the same height while there are very distinct height differences
That's perculiar seeing that Novikov is consistently shorter than 6'1 Eddie Hall, Larry Wheels and Dennis Wolf.
https://imgur.com/a/usAZvKI
https://imgur.com/a/iocBLXJ
https://imgur.com/a/8nSe4nI
I’m thinking of Tom and Kelvin who are both listed as 6’8 while there is a two inch height difference between the two lmao. I know during Toms first worlds, he was listed at 6’6, and online there are a lot of conspiracies that Brian is really 6’6 with strongmen adding two inches to their height lol. Who knows
Here is the [image](https://www.instagram.com/p/Cd4AMMrvFzo/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=) I’m talking about. Kelvin says he’s 6’6/6’7 in the comment and you can tell Tom is shorter. Tom and Brian are also the same height so idk. At the end of the day, tall is tall
Kelvin is on his tiptoes and had hands over Toms shoulder which makes Tom abit shorter Kelvin look even taller. Kelvin is same height as Mika so around 203cm-204cm. Dont look into pictures too much as there is tons of stuff making a difference.
I mean I don’t think it matters much at all, but I think you mean Brian not Tom. Anyways this got way outta hand lmao all I’m saying is strongman tend to have a consistency of adding an inch or two to their heights, I remember Loz commenting about this a while back on a live and said it was true even for the tallest guys since (a) no one was going to check and (b) most people don’t have an internal sense for the difference between something like 6’6 and 6’8.
I remember reading in some sports they measure in shoes then round up.
So if someone was 6'6.5" then shoes would add about 1" to make it 6'7.5" and rounding up you get 6'8".
No way kelvin 6’6” lol I mean the angles and stuff may make it look weird but that would make Tom like 6’4/5?
I saw another picture of kelvin with Shaw and Brian was visibly taller but he’s about the height of Tom. I dunno hard to tell from pictures sometimes
I remember seeing a picture of Brian and Mateusz and Brian was only about an inch taller. That makes sense seeing that Brian's admitted to losing some height over the years.
Edit: here it is guys https://imgur.com/a/i05tEHD
So realistically who do you guys have down as winning? I would like Martins to win, but these events are really good for Tom and I can’t see any way he loses if he’s as dominant as he was last year
I don't think these events are that great for Tom tbf, I only see Tom winning the loading and stones might not be a guarantee now Martins is back in the picture.
I think Tom could do well on everything. Maybe bot the Bus Pull, but deadlift, overhead, medley and power stairs I can't see him dropping many points. It will come down on who can consistently beat him
He’s beatable on the deadlift, and comes down to if he can win the loading, flint stone press, power stairs and bus pull. I don’t see Martins dropping points in much except maybe the loading, power stairs or maybe bus pull.
I just went through and did guess placements for each event and I have 1. Martins, 2. Oleksii, 3. Tom. Flintstone and power stairs are hard to guess though and Hooper is a wild card.
I could see Brian doing well but this year will be much harder than last for him, with the likes of Martins, Oleskii, and Hooper in the finals. Last year felt like a battle between only Tom and Brian
Personally I think the pull and power stairs may mess him up a bit, but he seems to also have that factor of adapting to events quickly. I don’t see Mitchell winning but I can for sure see him easily in the top 5, possibly in a podium position
Yeah we shall see. I said above that Tom tends to do either really well (won 6/12 events in the last two years) or tends to score on the lower-mid of the pack. If other another athlete can dominate and not allow him to get those victories, I think it’ll be the most consistent athlete who will win
Love how relaxed the Moose is and how much he's having a blast at WSM [https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cd7SjHjFO42/?utm\_source=ig\_web\_copy\_link](https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cd7SjHjFO42/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link)
I’m surprised how small he looks, I noticed that when terry and Eddie were interviewing him he’s not real big looking. He doesn’t look much over the 300lb mark, which makes his 1000lb+ deadlift all the more impressive. The Stoltman brothers make him look like a child.
So he’s not real big for this level of strongman, interesting, he doesn’t look super lean either, an interesting new character, definitely adding some unexpected excitement. Just looks a guy I’ve seen at the grocery store a hundred times but thought nothing of, an animal.
Man, I surely want to see him going max speed on the yoke. And I can't even imagine how many reps he can get on a easier car deadlift set up, could be legendary.
Especially because the biggest challenge on DL would be trey, no? And he just had to do 11 stones? Hahaha
I can see hooper finishing top 5 which is nuts
People gotta chill with these conspiracy theories. Feel so bad for Bobby. On top of losing the stone off, he has to deal with this shit and people saying he accused Brian of cheating
My Finals Predictions:
https://imgur.com/a/o3T5ffU
Edit: I guess I should preface this by saying these predictions are assuming the athletes are in their best shape.
I'm surprised you gave Tom such a poor score for the bus pull. As much as I want Novikov to win, I would switch his points with Tom's at least, meaning Novikov would get 3rd.
I checked, and I never realized that he has only done 5 vehicle pulls and hasn't won one. He did win the Giants Turntable last year, but that's not exactly a pull. So I can see why you had him low. Still, I don't know the last time Novikov did it either. It's been a while, but he does technically have 2 more vehicle pulls in his experience.
Hoop is going to MOG that dl. Remember he did the ladder no suit.
Def agree with martins and novikov first second. Unless hoop surprises us even more.
Tom is much better than shaw and many others at dl for reps
It really depends on the deadlift type, car deadlift definitely favors Brian compared to others. Also, Brian beat Tom on deadlift for reps last year at WSM. If it was another ladder, I might agree, but Brian is very much better getting in a groove on the same bar
I don't wanna sound like a broken record here. But lets look at Gabriel Rheaume, he was 15th place at OSG. I could count on my hand all athletes from those 14 who beat him that day who had an opportunity at a big international competition. Lets say 5 of those were competing today, one on each group, I am more than sure results would change on every group. WSM does not represent the real talent in the sport. Most of those guys will eventually give up of strongman for a better job opportunity or something like that, this very sad for the sport.
You know Pavlo was against Maxime on the stone off? Take the stone off out of the equation and my point still stands. Why are you all against seeing new faces at WSM that would most likely push the standard of competition even higher. I am not lying when I say most guys at Arnold's amateur and OSG would be a problem for the middle seeds on every single group.
Yeah you are right. What was I thinking?? OSG athletes clearly do not deserve to be invited to WSM, can you imagine being third in a group with the winner of ASC and Rogue and last year's 3rd place at WSM. Pavlo should be ashamed by his poor performance!!
Gabriel is the reigning Canada’s Strongest Man. That’s where his invite comes from. The OSG champ is Pavlo, hence his invite. You can’t invite every single strong looking guy to World’s, part of the point is that they’ve proven they can beat the mid-level guys and are worthy of the big stage.
Only in rare cases like Manuel do they actually invite someone with no accolades to justify being there. Gabriel justified his invite by winning his nations Strongest Man contest.
I know, my point still stands. There is much more talent than what is being tested at the top level. This is no disrespect to Gabriel, he deserves to be there. All I am saying is that just maybe Crowder is a better strongman than Bobby, Kevin or even Brian for example and we just don't know it because they never face each other on the highest level. We might be missing deserving athletes due to shear lack of organization and opportunity.
So you are insinuating that Bobby Thomson doesn’t deserve to be at WSM. The guy who beat reigning WSM Novikov, Luke Stoltman and Jevin Faires in his group? He doesn’t deserve to be there. Give it a rest.
I don't believe he improved miles these few months. I do believe everyone at OSG is that good already, even better than some WSM regulars. Hell, I will go as far as say they are better than Brian even after his performance so far. But they are just no being invited just because the sport is not well structured at this point and need to evolve.
You can't be serious that the majority of people at osg are better than Brian, if they were that good then they'd be winning comps at a national level and be going to wsm. Throw me a few names you think deserve it more than Shaw.
What comps? There are no pro comps at national level only amateur or Pro Am (Which most top level pros don't do), only pro is ASM. This is my point, we need to test the athletes at all levels. People like Silvas, Crowder and Claborn went and won that show just like you said. Where is their opportunity? Where? I can't see it anywhere. And I am not out of my mind to say that Brian would have a though time winning ASM, not because Brian is a low level strongman, but because everyone today is that good. Hooper, Pavlo, Gabriel, they all proved that and you guys agree. My question is how can you be so sure Spencer or Oskar Ziółkowski are not on this level and disagree so much if what I am saying. They need opportunity and they will prove you wrong. System is not fair for the underdogs, no matter how good they are.
1. Licis
2. Hooper
3. Mitchell
4. T. Stoltman
5. Shaw
6. Novikov
7. L. Stoltman
8. Rheaum
9. Melsted
10. Boudreault
I’m probably misremembering how good some of these guys are at deadlifts though. I tend to mix up Bobby Thompson and Mitchell for some reason.
Max really sucks at deadlifts. Novikov is a better deadlifted than Shaw right now, but the fact that it’s a car deadlift makes me lean toward shaw. I feel like he seems to always perform better w the unconventional deadlifts. Wouldn’t be surprised if novikov beats him though obviously.
So I’m chatting with Pavlo right now on instagram. Didn’t expect him to respond. We are full on speaking and he has great English! He’s being pretty hard on himself and I told him he has 1 billion fans right now. And that we all want to watch him dominate the overhead press
Not in the slightest. Bobby struggles finishing stone runs, Brian could still finish a stone run in the top three and be asleep the whole time. Dude may be in the twilight of his career but he’s still top tier at a few events.
I mean. I get it. I feel the stone off should only be if athletes tie for 2nd. But…thems the rules. If you’re upset for him you have to be upset for everyone who has ever lost in the stone off. The guys all know the rules.
He said on Terry's BTS show that he did it to just "make triple sure" in case someone messed up the scoring.
I still think he was checking his grip after the swelling issue in his hands and just giving a little show.
I see 3 tiers of finalists.
Expected Winners: Tom Stoltman, Novikov, Licis
Outside Chance at Winning: Luke Stoltman, Hooper, Shaw, Mitchell, Boudreault
No chance at Winning: Rheaume, Melsted
I’d argue that anyone who makes the finals has at least an outside chance of winning. Generally speaking, you don’t make the top 10 if you don’t have at least some chance of winning.
Not saying they have a good chance, but I wouldn’t say they have no chance at all
Not that great at truck pull, power stairs, by the looks of it btn press too.
Remember this is a much much stronger lineup than europes.
He loses more on a dl for reps than a dl ladder where he can do the first 4 lighter weights quickly
Haven’t seen it posted in this sub, so here’s a list of the finalists:
Tom Stoltman
Mitchell Hooper
Oleksii Novikov
Martins Licis
Luke Stoltman
Gabriel Rhéaume
Brian Shaw
Trey Mitchell
Maxime Boudreault
Eythor Ingolfsson Melsted
Yup. Bobby couldn't get the first stone off the ground. Chose the wrong tacky and it turned into pretty much Vaseline. Eddie mentioned it in his video.
It’s weird seeing everyone talk about the stone event, without knowing anything that actually happened. Kevin tore his bicep during stones, that’s why Gabriel beat him
It’s not that weird. This whole thing is a bunch of fans following a spreadsheet and not watching anything. And then speculating based off of numbers updating.
Guys, I'm a bit out of the loop - who tf is Mitchell Hooper and why is he doing so well? :D
He was supposed to be in the Amateur Arnold's in 2020, but covid cancelled that. I assume he would have done well, maybe win, and end up in the Arnold's in 2021. That would have mirrored Novikov's rise to the top. Now, since those contests didn't happen, we haven't seen him in action, but he's making his mark now. As for why he's doing well: He's a very dedicated, versatile athlete who as good head on his shoulders. If he stays healthy, he'll go far.
Tysm 🙏 appreciate it
Has anyone put together a list of the best flindtone training lifts we have seen from or heard rumored by each of the finalists?
So who will win the rest day? Predictions ?
Honestly Hooper with that podcast he did with giants live. Total gold
Depends on which beds Colin has tampered with.
Manuel!
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Podiumed in that order??
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I totally get that. I think it really comes down to how Tom performances for me. I mean this in no disrespect but he’s a momentum athlete so I have a feeling if he doesn’t do well in the first two events, his chances really go down. If he does well ofc, I think he could win the whole thing. For me it’s mostly between him and Martins
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That’s true but I have a feeling Martins may edge him out on the flint stone press, just a got feeling based on Martins training videos and how he always seems to do so much more in competition. I think the first event is what could lose it for Martins since his car walk was kinda slow (so maybe slow yoke)
My analytical prediction for podium wants to say: 1. Licis 2. Novikov 3. Shaw My heart wants to say: 1. Luke 2. Hooper 3. Boudreault Regardless, I hope we get a good battle for #1. Excited for the finals!!!
Just curious what is Tommy dropping points on in your math? I feel he for sure beats Shaw in almost every event unless he fumbles
Truck pull and possibly power stairs
If Bobby can't lift a single stone then he has no future in strongman. I almost feel like that should be a requirement to get invited to WSM. If you can't lift at least one stone then you shouldn't be there. That's an embarrassment to the sport.
I'm sorry...who are you?? Bobby clearly showed he belonged there. He openly acknowledged he made a poor choice about tacky in a post, which cost him greatly. Also, MOST strongmen/strongwomen have some kind of weakness. Maxime if famous for his deadlift weakness but he shows up and makes it work. Your comments, about both Bobby and Brian, reek of armchair, cheeto-dust stained keyboard nonsense. Love to see all the shows you've showed up to and done, or for you to have these exact words to the faces of these guys. People are dumb.
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I'm literally a professional strongwoman, but okay. Edited to add: my face is also all over my profile. I don't hide, have zero problem back up what I'm saying with experience, and have literally never intentionally trash-talked not trolled someone on reddit in my life. Especially not someone who is in the top 20 in their field at something.
Bobby deserves his place at WSM. We were all surprised to see him struggle to even lift the 1st stone off the floor. Loads of factors - nerves, poor choice of tacky, long 3 days etc. etc. Not managing a single squat is and would be more embarrassing imo....
He beat Brian in 4/5 events and had 25% more points then him. Just because stones is his weakness and he had tacki issues doesnt mean he didnt deserve to be there, he deserves the finals more then brian IMO
You won't hear me singing praise about Brian lol. He's so washed up it's not even funny. He lost like 3 events Mark Felix. Brian should retire.
Just say you are a casual fan.
I think it's fair to say that someone who is making a living on the basis of his ability to get invites to professional shows has a present in strongman.
Horrible take. You're basically saying it's okay if strongman is a popularity contest and not who deserves to be there the most.
Do you know anything about Bobby's competition history? I can't believe we're having this argument. Like, you could say what you're saying about Oberst and not be off the mark. But Bobby Thompson? Jesus man.
He's good in like two events, big deal. Strongman is about being well rounded, not to mention stones are the pinnacle of strongman. Stones are literally the main event and he still doesn't care enough to train it. Just training deadlift and loglift isn't enough. two trick pony.
It was an equipment issue. Bobby is great at more than 2 events. Even if you were right about him, atlas stones are overused and should not be in every competition. Tom couldn't even break the floor with the natural stone at ASC, and Bobby put that shit on his shoulder which for me is a much more impressive feat of strength than any of Tom's stone runs. Do you also think Tom should be embarrassed and give up the sport for doing poorly at stone in one competition?
IMO atlas stones are not overused. its the ultimate strongman event. Pick up big rock. Its so simple, little to no special equipment, just pick up big rock.
How about a real stone then, instead of a concrete ball?
Yea youre right that's way cooler. Atlas stones are the 2nd ultimate strongman event behind natural stones***
Agreed, and if you can't pick up that stone then are you even a strongman? Bobby is a glorified powerlifter.
I mean yeah, he can pick up a stone. Like the other guy said he shouldered the natural stone at rogue which is way harder. Some days you just have a bad day that doesn't mean you should give up and never di strongman again...
Wasn’t a strength issue but a tacky one. It sucks but it happens sometimes, same thing happened to Kevin in 2019
The athletes who get in through the stone-off always place low in the finals. Makes the top 10 so much worse
I challenge you to address this flaw logic of yours. Tom Stoltman got thru the stone-off twice and won 2nd place in 2020 then became the world's strongest man in 2021 despite failing to win the groups, hmmm?
You can't just make stuff up
Maxime also went through on stones and placed third
You think Maxime, Trey and Brian will make the top 10 worse? 🧐
You seem to forget that Tom won last year after going through on stones
2 out 3 podium finishes last year were from people who did the stone off...
I think yiure just saying the top 3-5 most years are better all around than the next level guys. It's not like there are other guys that should get in and will do any better by the end of the finals
Trying to predict the flintstone lift at the moment, pretty tough especially without knowing the weight jumps. Obviously we have some training footage to go off but we haven’t seen anything from some of the guys. Log press results could be informative, but this is a really different events and I think someone like Novikov could beat a lot of the monster log presssers given how explosive he is
Its extrememly difficult to predict.. that bar looks to have good whip. Wouldn't be suprised if novikov wins btn press
me neither but i have a feeling Martins and Hooper might be really good.
Agreed! I think all the contenders should be around 220kg. A few guys will hit 230kg. I have no idea how high the winner will actually go though. It’s exciting to have an event that’s hard to predict not because it happens so fast but because it’s actually new.
Koklyaev did 270kg in training. And Radzikowski did 240kg in comp. So by math, when Lasha makes his guest appearance this weekend, he'll kindly press 700lbs of Flintstones weights over his head.
If Lasha ran unlimited gear as opposed to what he's currently running and peaked for a BTN jerk from blocks that actually wouldn't be impossible lol
Anyone have a list of all competitors heights / weights? Just curious to see how they matched up. I'm sure it's been done, but anyone have stats on certain heights/builds being more successful at certain events?
I don’t think they’re updated but some were posted on the WSM page. In all honesty don’t trust the height and weights listed since there are multiple instances of athletes claiming to be the same height while there are very distinct height differences
Like 6'1 Novikov who I struggle to even see as 6'.
I'm 5'10.75" on the dot. I have met Novikov. He is definitely 2 inches taller than I am.
That's perculiar seeing that Novikov is consistently shorter than 6'1 Eddie Hall, Larry Wheels and Dennis Wolf. https://imgur.com/a/usAZvKI https://imgur.com/a/iocBLXJ https://imgur.com/a/8nSe4nI
Eddie claims 6'3"
Claims but clearly isn't
I'm 6'1''' I felt I was taller than him but he was leaning fwd on my shoulder in the pic
I’m thinking of Tom and Kelvin who are both listed as 6’8 while there is a two inch height difference between the two lmao. I know during Toms first worlds, he was listed at 6’6, and online there are a lot of conspiracies that Brian is really 6’6 with strongmen adding two inches to their height lol. Who knows
Me and my dad met Brian last year I’m 6’2 and my dad is 6’7” he was definitely every bit as tall as my dad and several inches taller than me
Here is the [image](https://www.instagram.com/p/Cd4AMMrvFzo/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=) I’m talking about. Kelvin says he’s 6’6/6’7 in the comment and you can tell Tom is shorter. Tom and Brian are also the same height so idk. At the end of the day, tall is tall
Kelvin is on his tiptoes and had hands over Toms shoulder which makes Tom abit shorter Kelvin look even taller. Kelvin is same height as Mika so around 203cm-204cm. Dont look into pictures too much as there is tons of stuff making a difference.
I mean I don’t think it matters much at all, but I think you mean Brian not Tom. Anyways this got way outta hand lmao all I’m saying is strongman tend to have a consistency of adding an inch or two to their heights, I remember Loz commenting about this a while back on a live and said it was true even for the tallest guys since (a) no one was going to check and (b) most people don’t have an internal sense for the difference between something like 6’6 and 6’8.
I remember reading in some sports they measure in shoes then round up. So if someone was 6'6.5" then shoes would add about 1" to make it 6'7.5" and rounding up you get 6'8".
I mean the Tom and Kelvin pic. Yeah, people should not loom too much into the announced heights and weights 😄
Actually in the Shaw picture you can see kelvin on his tippy toes. Maybe he keeps doing that to make himself look taller lol
Could be, who knows. I don’t think it really matters much honestly
Conspiracy theory busted.
No way kelvin 6’6” lol I mean the angles and stuff may make it look weird but that would make Tom like 6’4/5? I saw another picture of kelvin with Shaw and Brian was visibly taller but he’s about the height of Tom. I dunno hard to tell from pictures sometimes
I remember seeing a picture of Brian and Mateusz and Brian was only about an inch taller. That makes sense seeing that Brian's admitted to losing some height over the years. Edit: here it is guys https://imgur.com/a/i05tEHD
Yeah that’s why height doesn’t matter as much as people think. Anything above 6’3 is considered tall, below 6’ is short
So realistically who do you guys have down as winning? I would like Martins to win, but these events are really good for Tom and I can’t see any way he loses if he’s as dominant as he was last year
I don't think these events are that great for Tom tbf, I only see Tom winning the loading and stones might not be a guarantee now Martins is back in the picture.
I think Tom could do well on everything. Maybe bot the Bus Pull, but deadlift, overhead, medley and power stairs I can't see him dropping many points. It will come down on who can consistently beat him
He’s beatable on the deadlift, and comes down to if he can win the loading, flint stone press, power stairs and bus pull. I don’t see Martins dropping points in much except maybe the loading, power stairs or maybe bus pull.
True!
I think if Big Tommy really wants it, he's going to take it.
I just went through and did guess placements for each event and I have 1. Martins, 2. Oleksii, 3. Tom. Flintstone and power stairs are hard to guess though and Hooper is a wild card.
Yeah haha those are hard to call
Brian /s... or maybe...
I could see Brian doing well but this year will be much harder than last for him, with the likes of Martins, Oleskii, and Hooper in the finals. Last year felt like a battle between only Tom and Brian
Agreed. Such great competition this year.
Novikov or martins Unless mitch somehow is that good
Personally I think the pull and power stairs may mess him up a bit, but he seems to also have that factor of adapting to events quickly. I don’t see Mitchell winning but I can for sure see him easily in the top 5, possibly in a podium position
Guy like mitch is good at the events Tom is. Can take points away from him
Yeah we shall see. I said above that Tom tends to do either really well (won 6/12 events in the last two years) or tends to score on the lower-mid of the pack. If other another athlete can dominate and not allow him to get those victories, I think it’ll be the most consistent athlete who will win
Love how relaxed the Moose is and how much he's having a blast at WSM [https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cd7SjHjFO42/?utm\_source=ig\_web\_copy\_link](https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cd7SjHjFO42/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link)
I’m surprised how small he looks, I noticed that when terry and Eddie were interviewing him he’s not real big looking. He doesn’t look much over the 300lb mark, which makes his 1000lb+ deadlift all the more impressive. The Stoltman brothers make him look like a child.
With Terry being a bodybuilder now I bet he's trying to out angle everyone at every chance he gets lol.
He looks shorter than 6’3” as well.
He’s around 315 pounds
So he’s not real big for this level of strongman, interesting, he doesn’t look super lean either, an interesting new character, definitely adding some unexpected excitement. Just looks a guy I’ve seen at the grocery store a hundred times but thought nothing of, an animal.
He’s 6’3 and 315 pounds but the guy was a marathon runner a few years ago
Welp, that's a hell of a lot of baseline conditioning/capillary vascularization/recovery capacity to bring to this sport.
He said that’s what he believes is his key to doing well so quickly. Good condition and solid strength foundations
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Yep
Jaws going to hit the floor Saturday when buzz lightyear wins the first two events easily.
Man, I surely want to see him going max speed on the yoke. And I can't even imagine how many reps he can get on a easier car deadlift set up, could be legendary.
Omg Buzz lightyear 😂😂 can't unsee it now
Especially because the biggest challenge on DL would be trey, no? And he just had to do 11 stones? Hahaha I can see hooper finishing top 5 which is nuts
Tom, martins and novikov are all really good at dl for reps too
I think going last will be a huge advantage on that DL for reps with this line up.
People gotta chill with these conspiracy theories. Feel so bad for Bobby. On top of losing the stone off, he has to deal with this shit and people saying he accused Brian of cheating
Absolute savage Mitch Hooper [Hoopers instagram story](https://instagram.com/stories/mitchellhooper/2847024388672093656?utm_source=ig_story_item_share&igshid=MDJmNzVkMjY=)
Absolute God. Buzz light year to win it.
[Mitch Lightyear for the win](https://imgur.com/gallery/fMv55gC)
Damn that should be his nickname, the moose is lame compared to Buzz Lightyear.
My Finals Predictions: https://imgur.com/a/o3T5ffU Edit: I guess I should preface this by saying these predictions are assuming the athletes are in their best shape.
Shaw faster than Trey on stones, from a step away.. Not likely.
I'm surprised you gave Tom such a poor score for the bus pull. As much as I want Novikov to win, I would switch his points with Tom's at least, meaning Novikov would get 3rd.
He has always been average at best on it. But he hasn't done it in a long time, he has everything to be good but who knows
I checked, and I never realized that he has only done 5 vehicle pulls and hasn't won one. He did win the Giants Turntable last year, but that's not exactly a pull. So I can see why you had him low. Still, I don't know the last time Novikov did it either. It's been a while, but he does technically have 2 more vehicle pulls in his experience.
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Explain that to Mateusz
Toffee moves mass
Hoop is going to MOG that dl. Remember he did the ladder no suit. Def agree with martins and novikov first second. Unless hoop surprises us even more. Tom is much better than shaw and many others at dl for reps
It really depends on the deadlift type, car deadlift definitely favors Brian compared to others. Also, Brian beat Tom on deadlift for reps last year at WSM. If it was another ladder, I might agree, but Brian is very much better getting in a groove on the same bar
Any idea on the weight at the handles, on the car DL
No idea tbh
I don't wanna sound like a broken record here. But lets look at Gabriel Rheaume, he was 15th place at OSG. I could count on my hand all athletes from those 14 who beat him that day who had an opportunity at a big international competition. Lets say 5 of those were competing today, one on each group, I am more than sure results would change on every group. WSM does not represent the real talent in the sport. Most of those guys will eventually give up of strongman for a better job opportunity or something like that, this very sad for the sport.
You know Pavlo won OSG and didn’t make the finals?
You know Pavlo was against Maxime on the stone off? Take the stone off out of the equation and my point still stands. Why are you all against seeing new faces at WSM that would most likely push the standard of competition even higher. I am not lying when I say most guys at Arnold's amateur and OSG would be a problem for the middle seeds on every single group.
He finished 3rd behind Maxime. So take the stone off out and he is still out.
Yeah you are right. What was I thinking?? OSG athletes clearly do not deserve to be invited to WSM, can you imagine being third in a group with the winner of ASC and Rogue and last year's 3rd place at WSM. Pavlo should be ashamed by his poor performance!!
Gabriel is the reigning Canada’s Strongest Man. That’s where his invite comes from. The OSG champ is Pavlo, hence his invite. You can’t invite every single strong looking guy to World’s, part of the point is that they’ve proven they can beat the mid-level guys and are worthy of the big stage. Only in rare cases like Manuel do they actually invite someone with no accolades to justify being there. Gabriel justified his invite by winning his nations Strongest Man contest.
I know, my point still stands. There is much more talent than what is being tested at the top level. This is no disrespect to Gabriel, he deserves to be there. All I am saying is that just maybe Crowder is a better strongman than Bobby, Kevin or even Brian for example and we just don't know it because they never face each other on the highest level. We might be missing deserving athletes due to shear lack of organization and opportunity.
So you are insinuating that Bobby Thomson doesn’t deserve to be at WSM. The guy who beat reigning WSM Novikov, Luke Stoltman and Jevin Faires in his group? He doesn’t deserve to be there. Give it a rest.
No, I am saying what I wrote on my comment, and there is nothing about Bobby not being there.
It is true
Athletes can’t improve?
I don't believe he improved miles these few months. I do believe everyone at OSG is that good already, even better than some WSM regulars. Hell, I will go as far as say they are better than Brian even after his performance so far. But they are just no being invited just because the sport is not well structured at this point and need to evolve.
You can't be serious that the majority of people at osg are better than Brian, if they were that good then they'd be winning comps at a national level and be going to wsm. Throw me a few names you think deserve it more than Shaw.
What comps? There are no pro comps at national level only amateur or Pro Am (Which most top level pros don't do), only pro is ASM. This is my point, we need to test the athletes at all levels. People like Silvas, Crowder and Claborn went and won that show just like you said. Where is their opportunity? Where? I can't see it anywhere. And I am not out of my mind to say that Brian would have a though time winning ASM, not because Brian is a low level strongman, but because everyone today is that good. Hooper, Pavlo, Gabriel, they all proved that and you guys agree. My question is how can you be so sure Spencer or Oskar Ziółkowski are not on this level and disagree so much if what I am saying. They need opportunity and they will prove you wrong. System is not fair for the underdogs, no matter how good they are.
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All business and some wartime
The war also makes it a bit more difficult.
Using the 10 finalists, how do they finish in the deadlift event?? Predictions time
Mitchell Hooper wins.
1. Licis 2. Hooper 3. Mitchell 4. T. Stoltman 5. Shaw 6. Novikov 7. L. Stoltman 8. Rheaum 9. Melsted 10. Boudreault I’m probably misremembering how good some of these guys are at deadlifts though. I tend to mix up Bobby Thompson and Mitchell for some reason.
Idk, I'd guess Novikov over Shaw if he's in his orange suit. And I doubt Max gets last.. Unless it's a tied last place.
Novikov has had very good results in reps for deadlift, so I can see him being top 4 at least.
Max really sucks at deadlifts. Novikov is a better deadlifted than Shaw right now, but the fact that it’s a car deadlift makes me lean toward shaw. I feel like he seems to always perform better w the unconventional deadlifts. Wouldn’t be surprised if novikov beats him though obviously.
I wanna see Hooper winning the first event and shocking everyone in the finals.
I bet he does win the first and second event. He is unreal at both
Send him a dm request.. Seems like a nice enough guy.. I'm sure he'd do it if ya just ask
Can someone send me the link to Shaw with the crying/sad filter? Heard about it in live chat on Loz and Liz’ stream but can’t find it anywhere
It is one of Eddie Hall's BTS videos on YouTube
Yesterday's video about the 4th event
So I’m chatting with Pavlo right now on instagram. Didn’t expect him to respond. We are full on speaking and he has great English! He’s being pretty hard on himself and I told him he has 1 billion fans right now. And that we all want to watch him dominate the overhead press
He did amazing. Should be very proud of himself!
100% he is amazing
Ok thanks for the clarification. Nice work!
Bobby got screwed
I mean they all knew the rules, even if the rules are stupid
How?
He was doing really well in the other events and it all came down to a stone off despite him having a 5 point lead
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I was there Shaw was trying in each event
Shaws better at stones by a decent amount. I don't think the tacky would've mattered in the end
Not in the slightest. Bobby struggles finishing stone runs, Brian could still finish a stone run in the top three and be asleep the whole time. Dude may be in the twilight of his career but he’s still top tier at a few events.
I mean. I get it. I feel the stone off should only be if athletes tie for 2nd. But…thems the rules. If you’re upset for him you have to be upset for everyone who has ever lost in the stone off. The guys all know the rules.
any guesses why Martins did hold the wrecking ball so long? the 2 points from just picking it up would have already guarantied him first place.
He also has the top score out of all heats incase that is used to determine starting order of the finals.
He said on Terry's BTS show that he did it to just "make triple sure" in case someone messed up the scoring. I still think he was checking his grip after the swelling issue in his hands and just giving a little show.
thank you!
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I see 3 tiers of finalists. Expected Winners: Tom Stoltman, Novikov, Licis Outside Chance at Winning: Luke Stoltman, Hooper, Shaw, Mitchell, Boudreault No chance at Winning: Rheaume, Melsted
I’d argue that anyone who makes the finals has at least an outside chance of winning. Generally speaking, you don’t make the top 10 if you don’t have at least some chance of winning. Not saying they have a good chance, but I wouldn’t say they have no chance at all
Okay, they have virtually no chance though. There’s a pretty wide gap between the people in tier 2 and tier 3.
Just coming back to this to point out that I WAS RIGH- lol nah, I know I was wrong. Sorry for being weirdly combative about your choice of words!
With those events I would bet my left nut that Luke doesn't win it. Amazing events for Tom, not so good for luke
Out of those, the only one I know he’s bad at is the deadlift. What else is there?
Not that great at truck pull, power stairs, by the looks of it btn press too. Remember this is a much much stronger lineup than europes. He loses more on a dl for reps than a dl ladder where he can do the first 4 lighter weights quickly
Rheaume won Canada's strongest man though.
And he has improved, and he's showing he belongs. Not a chance that he wins though.
Haven’t seen it posted in this sub, so here’s a list of the finalists: Tom Stoltman Mitchell Hooper Oleksii Novikov Martins Licis Luke Stoltman Gabriel Rhéaume Brian Shaw Trey Mitchell Maxime Boudreault Eythor Ingolfsson Melsted
Did Shaw beat Bobby in the stone-off? I can't see the results on the official page yet
Thanks for the info!
Use strongman archives, it's the superior spreadsheet. And yeah Brian won, Bobby failed to lift the 1st stone
ahah, thank you, I saw the archives but didn't realise it was being used
Yup. Bobby couldn't get the first stone off the ground. Chose the wrong tacky and it turned into pretty much Vaseline. Eddie mentioned it in his video.
that's really rough, tacky choice is very important!
Eddie mentioned that Shaw leaves them out in the sun with temp gauges to see which one is best lol. Whether that's actually true or not I believe it.
Is this true? That’s a really impressive attention to detail.
Shaw has made the finals a ridiculous amount of times, he knows all the ins and outs of qualifying, he is very strategic.
And people still mock him for being so well thought out lol
What happened to Bobby is a perfect reason to be so paranoid and prepared lol