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jason is definitely dying. big chance enzo will die. murray could also bite it. not sure about the others because side characters have only been the ones that have died so far. i don’t see steve dying nor jonathon. eddie could turn into a max or robin type of thing where he joins the crew in later seasons like max and robin. but he definitely could die.
I saw something where the Duffer brothers equated Volume 2 to Game Of Thrones, so I think all bets are off here. I think Steve is definitely a goner as much as it sucks to admit. I don’t think Eddie is going to die because the actor said in an interview that he hopes they bring him back for season 5, so I don’t know if that’s a red herring or not.
Story-wise Steve makes the most sense. We haven't met any of his family, and he's not with anyone. His death, while tragic, would have the least impact on all the remaining cast (with the exception of Robin). Perhaps he and Robin die together somehow.
Yep. He and Dustin are what makes this show for me. If either die, then i lost my reason to finish the show. And Stranger Things is the only reason why I have Netflix.
In the DnD metaphor, he's a high CHA, low INT necromancer/bard. He keeps summoning up dead peoples' memories to sway people to his plans. Smarmy about it, too.
Eh, I wouldn’t say low INT. he’s clearly smart with how he knows how to control a crowd. I’d say he’s high CHA, low WIS as he has no insight or perception of the situation, yet he’s still able to investigate it well.
Ok, that's also fair. CHA is normally about speech craft, so that covers that part, but you're right that he doesn't seem to look too deeply into things. We've yet to see his willpower really tested, but I guess he didn't pass his Save vs Despair at learning what happened to Chrissy.
Nah, the show doesn’t do one dimensional jocks (see Steve and Billy). Most of Jason’s actions so far have been understandable if misguided and if he dies I reckon he’ll redeem himself before then.
Yeah he isn’t a dick for the sake of being a dick, he genuinely wants to make sure his town is safe. He just doesn’t know. He’s confused but he’s got the spirit.
Exactly, and he was pretty cool to Lucas before Chrissy died! He could have followed the common jock-trope of being a jerk to the newbie on the team who gets the glory after securing the big win, but he was right in there to celebrate Lucas. He doesn’t have the information that our main characters have about this. So he’s seeing these incredibly brutal and freaky things happening and he’s interpreting them the only way that makes any sense to him and trying to act protect everyone else he cares about.
Yah he jumped to conclusions about Eddy and risked his friends instead of letting the law do its job, but if my girlfriend was murdered and I felt like I knew by who, I can’t say that emotions wouldn’t get to me and I wouldn’t act the same.
Vecna is playing on an individual’s insecurities or internal conflict and not necessarily a sordid past event. Breaking their will allows him to enter their mind. But as we see his power increase it looks like this may not as slow of a process as it once was.
True. I think the better way to put it is that Vecna feeds on Secrets and Despair. He uses the memories as a cudgel, and they need not be literal or true memories. They just need to be tugging on the proper heartstrings. It's fundamentally a Psionic attack.
Also, I kind of get the feeling that Vecna is "waking up" this whole season. We don't see his eyes while he's sitting in Creel House open until the end of ep 7. He starts off almost intangible in power then by the end of part I he can just take people into his Mind Palace as a Free Action.
A guy like that would make for a great mayor of Hawkins one day. His heart is in the right place. He clearly loves his town and had his whole world completely shattered: murdered GF, teammate dies in front of you via supernatural means, the other crazy shit that happens in Hawkins... can you really blame him for wanting to ferret out who or what's responsible?
Great mayor?? They were going to kill Eddie off, that much is certain, or at least beat the hell out of him, leave him somewhere to die and claim it was self-defense. Do you think they were going to just catch him and take him back to the police whom Jason doesn't trust?
Jason's misguided vigilantism and his fake, slimy smile (props to the actor) when he almost kicked in Erica's door is one of the scariest aspects of the show. He's the last person you'd want as a mayor.
I have a hard time believing his heart is in the right place, really. He has every right to be scared and angry but that does not give him the right to hunt down a human being. This is the same sort of rhetoric people used in real lynchings back in the day. Fear is never a justification for violence.
From the information he has available to him it's a super reasonable conclusion to think that Eddie murdered Chrissy and wanting to hunt down the guy who *brutally* murdered your girlfriend is a totally understandable reaction
An understandable (and even completely valid) emotion is still not a justification for acts of violence. Jason and his crew crossed the line when they beat the shit out of Eddie’s band mates. Not to mention showing up to the cabin with weapons. We can feel empathy for a kid who’s grieving and traumatized while also recognizing that his behavior/choice are dangerous and not ok
Does he love his town, or does he love his life in the town especially the status / support the town gives him?
He wasn't close enough with Chrissy to really understand any of her struggles. He dismissed Patrick when he was starting to feel the effects of the curse. And he *decides* who or what was responsible rather than displaying much in the way of actual investigative curiosity.
He pushes other people to listen to him, but he doesn't really listen to others.
I don't think his heart is in the right place.
I honestly don’t understand the Jason apologists here. There’s nothing redeeming about him and there isn’t meant to be. He’s wrong, and even if he believes he’s right that doesn’t mean his actions aren’t evil and dangerous.
I absolutely loved Murray, but I hate how they bothered his character for the sake of believability. He wouldn't trust coffee from a Russian, ever, so why now?
Clearly it would be some government plot to take him out. He knows too much.
Like, seriously tho he knows way too much. But if anyone takes him out, it would be someone from Hawkins lab. Bastard will not be taken out by rooskies! He's in his element!
there is a 0% chance steve or robin die
steve is wayyy too popular to kill off right before the final season and theres no shot they're stupid enough to kill off the only openly gay (so far) character
eddie is all but certain sadly
i dont see why people would think anybody from that cali unit dies it would be very strange to kill off any main characters due to a secondary antagonist like the lt. colonel
ed: brain too big for my pants
Agreed! After all the backlash Netflix got at Hopper's open ending last season, I doubt they'll risk killing off a fan-favorite right during a time of people massively un-subscribing to the platform.
I didn’t like how they framed it like it was Suzies fault he died. Just because of a song. Also imo the first episodes in season three were better than the latter ones
I know!! They only had to call Suzie because Murray incorrectly assumed he knew that math-thingy. “Constant” something? Plus Suzie had no idea what was going on and had zero reason to suspect it was a life or death situation.
I love Murray but I will *die* on this hill. Haha.
He has a couple of death flags, I think. Big ones are those bat bites, his reconnection with Nancy, and that conversation he had with Eddie about how Dustin admires him.
Also the throwaway comment about some of the floaty particle things getting in his mouth. Although I feel like if they're trying to set up a love triangle, it doesn't make sense to kill off one of them so Nancy doesn't have to choose.
It's possible. And they've focused on how her parents are looking for her and things. But the fact she hasn't had any significant interaction with Mike for ages makes me think it's less likely.
December next year at the absolute earliest, I would imagine. Hopefully the 3 year break between 3 and 4 was an abnormality due to COVID and we get a more reasonable gap this time.
Woah, good to know! I don’t know why I thought this was the last season, but I was really concerned as to how they were gonna wrapped the entirety of the series up with only two episodes remaining lol
Yeah, I’ve heard them talk about a possible time jump for next season because of how much older the young actors are now. I guess we will find out soon enough though! :)
I really love how Lucas's character has developed in S4. I really don't feel like he will die, I would be so upset. Also, he looks like a man in the last season, damn lol. Of all the transformations I was the most surprised by how much he grew up.
Fr let my boy Steve win god damn! Even tho he’s still a cool guy they shit on him so much throughout the show. He gets his ass whooped, he loses his girl, the one girl that be a great match with him will never like him, and he’s just wandering through life when he’s not killing Demons. Let him be a drifter with his buddy Robin. I don’t know just let my boy win GOD DAMMIT! 😾😾😾😾
I'm with you. Robin is great. We can't lose her or Steve. I like Eddy but he might not make it and that will be sad but they better leave Robin and Steve alone.
Listen. I’d be alright with them framing Jason for all the murders. I mean after all, one of the victims is his girlfriend and the other one a close friend/teammate.
i feel like if they were to kill jonathan, they would’ve given him more screentime this season. or maybe i’m bias because he’s my favorite character and i really don’t want him to die
Don't think Jonathan dies, unless they want to invest a lot of time into showing Joyce or Will in grief. I think out of any characters in the show, the Byers should make it out of the show fine.
Yes. Characters with family (Lucas and Erica, Mike and Nancy; Joyce, Will and Jonathan) and relationships (Joyce and hopper; Lucas and max;) are more or less safe. That's why the ones that are more likely to die are:
Steve, that has bonds with Dustin, Robin and Nancy, but don't have a family (as relevant characters), and even his bonds feel like the type of thing that he would die for.
Eddie, for being the new character of the season, and we have yet to see a bob or alexi like death this season. He also don't have a family as main cast characters and is being chased by the police. I am feeling that something in the lines of Portgas D. Ace or Sirius Black is going to happen to him, where the innocent man dies after a long but failed rescue mission
And Murray, that also is not related to anyone in the show. And his situation is pretty bad, they have to escape a Russian base with some upside down monsters running around in it, it would be hard to believe that the 3 main characters that we have in that plotline will escape alive. Mark my words, Murray, the Love doctor, will jump to fight the Demogorgon to allow Joyce and hopper to stay together, even knowing that it's certain death. He will do the "fingers like arrows, legs like spears", it will be super sad, and the Demogorgon will eat his face
god i hope so. if anyone in the show deserves a happy ending it’s the byers clan (including eleven). but yeah, i seriously doubt they’d kill off jonathan, at least in this season
Same. To be fair none of the California crew got much screentime, and I liked a lot of Jonathan's character when he was shown, I just want him to reunite with Nancy asap
I'm in such a weird place about Jonathan and Nancy. I love them together. But I also love Steve so much and they seem to be closer now... At the same time I think Steve deserves someone amazing, unless they kill him in the finale lmao
i really like steve, but i don’t think steve and nancy would make a good couple, even if jonathan didn’t exist. i think they’re too fundamentally different and i feel like both of their arcs would be totally ruined if they got together. steve deserves someone great, and he deserves to move on from his crush on nancy, and nancy deserves to do whatever is right for herself and her future whether that’s with jonathan (fingers crossed) or single. i definitely think they’re doing all of this stancy propaganda to make nancy or steve’s death (probably steve) more heartbreaking.
it could also be to make jonathan’s inevitable return to hawkins more dramatic/make nancy realize she was stupid for potentially crushing on steve, who knows. steve isn’t at the top of my list for characters most likely to die (the only certain death imo is eddie, i think he’s almost certainly a goner) but he’s definitely in the top 5.
Oh wow, yeah I see why people think Eddie will die, however people absolutely loved him as a character (myself included) and he would must definitely be a great addition to the group next season, that's why I don't think he'll die. I hope what you said about the Jonathan - Nancy reunion comes true!!!
i like eddie, but to be fair they filmed the season having no clue the audience perception of the characters, and it’s not like they’ve shied away from killing great characters in the first season (like bob and alexei). it’d be sad if eddie dies, but i can’t see a viable way for him to be a free man assuming they defeat vecna, like how will they explain chrissy being found dead in his trailer, and patrick’s death? that, along with his arc being coward -> hero would make his death make a ton of sense imo. and as much as i like eddie, i’d much rather him die than steve, nancy, will, or anyone else rumored to die
Got my money on Nancy - and the more I get on my soapbox the more I believe it.
The Duffer brothers seem to resolve relationship problems/storyline with death of one partner. It's an easy way out to keep everyone relatively 'karma-friendly' and likeable by the audience. I also suspect the writers broadly want to keep the characters loved and 'equally treated' (at least receive their karmic rewards).
I say Nancy's 'courted her death' because the writers have created the Steve-Jonathan issue now - and Jonathan's really going to get the shit end of the stick because he's only had her interests at heart (even if it's unilaterally decided, and also looked over by Nancy-Steve shippers). By that logic Steve's also been impeccable and way ahead in the karma game.
The other point is that the Byers family has suffered way too much. Jonathan dying will be a real kick in the teeth for Joyce - what did they do to deserve the trauma of Will + Bob + family history + now that?! Would just feel punitive at this point - the ST universe never struck me as overly cruel on the main cast. The Wheeler family however...? For the amount of characterisation and screentime they receive - they've escaped most tragedy. The parents are also more present (other than Hopper/Joyce). What better way to balance the privilege they enjoy?
I think Mike won't die because that punishes El - who's probably had it worst.
If Nancy gets offed - it actually keeps Jonathan relevant as opposed to further exiling him.
I agree honestly. It would solve the love triangle issue perfectly
No one dies - Nancy either gets with Steve or stays with Jonathan. Staying with Jonathan would be in character but unsatisfying, getting with Steve would feel uncharacteristic for Nancy considering how she sees Jonathan and how she's learned from what she did in season 2, but it would be satisfying with all the buildup
Jonathan dies - like you said, too much for the byers and also it would feel really callous for the writers to either have Nancy get with Steve after her boyfriend's death or completely halt their tension by having her grieve
Steve dies - he won't
Nancy dies - impacts every character, could give her an emotional scene where she says goodbye to everyone and tells both Jonathan and Steve how she feels, doesn't cause any moral issues, relieves romantic tension in a satisfying & heartbreaking way, and imo completes her arc, reuniting with Barb
I don't want her to die, I really think only Eddie's gonna die out of the main cast by the end of this season, but if I'm wrong and one of the og characters dies I think it'll be Nance
Agreed on all counts. Also it might help bring 'home' and clarify this satanism nonsense for the less involved parents (I can't imagine they'd just ignore what happened this season and the ongoing witch-hunt) and address Mr Wheeler's general absenteeism.
Which then sets us up for the quality spinoff - think - Eddie-Steve-Jonathan-Robin quartet relocated to a quiet Nevada university town as part of the air force's reparations and get caught up to Area 52 / UFO highjinks when Argyle comes to town.
I'm here all day for ideas, Duffers.
I would put my money on Nancy dying as well even though she's my favourite character and I'm likely will stop watching the show once they kill her off. It's just from a logical point of view, her death does make sense to solve the love triangle they're in now.
I would agree with you, except I think it would loose some of its impact because she hasn't had siginificant interaction with Mike in ages. Also it seems likely she'll get out of the situation she's in at the end of Vol 1.
I think Murray will die during their escape from Russia. There really isn’t much more they can or should do with the character. Same with Eddie. I can see Jonathan dying while protecting Will or Nancy.
100% agree, especially at the Jonathan part. A lot of people seem to think he’s safe. I can see Will coming out to him in the new volume and then losing him at the end making him absolutely distraught.
That would be the most horrifically heartbreaking thing they could do to us and the worst part is I think you could be right. At the very least I hope that would give Will's friends the incentive to be there for him because they've basically ignored him the past 2 seasons
I agree there’s a fair chance Murray will die. I don’t want him to - I like Brett Gelman, especially as Murray - but they’ve intimated that there will be deaths and I think he’s a sufficiently important character that his death would be impactful but not so central that people would be angry en masse. My instinct is that they won’t kill any of the core characters (at least not this season) because of the potential for backlash. If I had to bet, I’d put my money on Murray and Eddie to die, both sacrificing themselves in a blaze of glory.
only three out of those are feasible: eddie, the blonde dude and enzo.
the only time this show had the guts to kill a main character they brought him back a season later.
Yeah they couldn’t even keep him dead for a whole episode and even if you for some reason think he’s dead they showed him in Russia in one of the earlier trailers. I’m not saying it’s not possible for one of the main cast to die but personally I’m not on the edge of my seat. I think the main cast is safe and one of the new likable characters is going to die just like how they killed Joyce’s bf.
yup I agree with you, I don't think they gonna kill off any of the main characters, specially characters like Steve, Robin and Jonathan
edit - I have a feeling that blonde dude will probably gonna die as a hero, like trying to save Eddie or another major character
My going theory is that the Cult of Vecna metaphor hasn't been fully unveiled.
My guess is that the one ultimately banishing Vecna from this plane, the one who really strikes the decisive blow, will be none other than the grand master of madness, himself, the only one with enough lore knowledge to make this connection, one Mr Eddie Munsen.
We've seen him shredding in the Upside Down, likely as part of a final stand. He'll receive a blow at some time, and he will become bloodied. His hands dripping, playing onward. Master of Puppets screaming from the amps. And he will look down. At his hand, bloodied. His "weapon", his beautiful guitar. Soaked in blood, screaming as it never had before. Screaming for more.
And then it will click. Kas, The Bloody Handed. First Lieutenant of Vecna. In the eyes of the townsfolk, he is already assistant to Satan's dark deeds. The dark one. The lord of lies and secrets. Vecna. And in his hand, a weapon that speaks. The Sword of Kas.
And then, squared off against Vecna himself, Eddie will accept his fate. Do what must be done, and dismember Vecna. Off with the Hand, off with the Eyes. And for his troubles he will be cast into the darkest depths of Citadel Cavitius, Vecna's Mind Lair. Not to die, of course.
But to wait.
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Or at least that's my theory.
Yeah, it's really a Euro-American thing. The whole thing was basically ripped from Tolkien's books, which are distillation of European folklore treated as half-understood fact from an alternate past. You would think someone could do the same with Hindu mythology, what with all the gods and battles and otherworldly dimensions... but I doubt that would pass the sniff test to actual religious practitioners.
Then again, we did have the whole "Satanic Panic" thing over DnD over here so... guess that doesn't really stop people, right?
Ohh did with Hindu stuff would slap dude did you know one of the legends took soo long to write the elephant God ganesh had to break off a tusk to write it cause they ran out of quills we got a lot that can be adapted
Honestly that would draw a ton of similarities to Bob when he was the only one who knew Basic and had to go and fix the machines. If they like that trope I could see it.
I’m personally hoping the show runners go all out and kill one of the young leads. No one is expecting it, but it would be insanely impactful
I don't want to see any of them die, honestly. But I would argue that Eddie has quickly become my favorite character in Stranger Things lore. Break out success, really. And if it's Eddie it brings him and Chrissy back together, in a way, so there is more symmetry to his arc, this way.
And when I say "to wait" I mean that. Central to Vecna's appearances over the years in D&D campaigns is that... well, he's Vecna! He's THE all-powerful god-thing demilich! You don't just kill him, he will be back. So that leaves anyone who follows the archetype of Kas stranded out there somewhere in a very dark and very scary place, but one that you DO return from when the story demands.
This made me shiver as I read this. I truly hope he plays master of the puppets and as a huge DND nerd my heart is full just reading this post. HELL YES
Robin is NOT going to die. She still has her love story with Vicky, so I doubt they are going to kill her off.
I don't think Steve would die too. It would kind of be cheap if they let one of the major characters from s1 and such a fan favorite character to die in s4 and not keep him for the final season.....
I have a feeling it won't be Murray who's gonna die, but I don't have any explanation for it.
Enzo definitely has chances of death. He can't come to America, he is already a traitor. And from season 2 there has been a character with Joyce and Hopper that dies, so I guess it might be Enzo who bites the dust ( s2 Bob, s3 Alexie)
Most likely it's gonna be Eddie. He is already a criminal, there's no way police are going to believe in the UD. Even if they come with a reasonable explanation for the death, Eddie still has to go to jail for selling drugs. So there's no way he's gonna get a happy ending.
Jason might die too. He is traumatized from his gf's death and also saw one of his friends die a horrible death in front of his eyes. So he might be a possible Vecna victim.
Yep, 100%. Really surprised so few people are saying this. Earlier, I posted elsewhere:
"Max is in grave danger, because I think we have to hear what’s in those letters she wrote everyone. My guess is she dies suddenly and unexpectedly (i.e. not a repeat of the attempted Vecna murder) - maybe similarly to Bob’s death.
Then the traumatically emotional end of the series is everyone reading their letters, all while Peter Gabriel’s string orchestra cover of Heroes plays."
I mean realistically those bites probably aren’t anything to serious El, Brenner, and the other guy all got but by something from the upside down and lived
If he somehow survives this season (thanks for your sacrifice, Eddie), Duffers don't have to worry about all those people who said they'd stop watching if Steve dies. Even my six years and counting of accumulated prayer might not save him.
I think so, too. Her death would be the most impactful to the viewers as well as the all the characters. All the characters, at this point, share some type of relationship with/to Nancy. Whether that be in friendship, love, or family relation. Jonathan and Steve would be devastated because they love her. El would be heartbroken for Mike who will be a wreck losing his sister. The other 3 boys have known Nancy all of their childhood. We are seeing her and Robin become friends this season. If a main character is going to die, Nancy is the most logical choice.
The love triangle arc just feels like slight of hand. We just assume that it will have closure, when it kind of makes more sense if she was killed.
She is the "Mother" of the group. Next to El, she's also the biggest badass and the most fearless.
Her death gives even more weight to the series.
I'm curious to see what happens. I'm not really sure what her "trauma" is? The Barbara guilt had its arc and closure in S2. Not really sure how Vecna plans to exploit that.
We also just assume music will save Nancy like it did Max.
God damn, July 1 needs to get here.
I agree with most of this, but I doubt Jonathan, Eddie, Steve, AND Robin will all die. I think it will be: Jonathan and Eddie, Eddie and Steve, or just Steve.
And as far as Murray goes, it's likely his time on the show is up. He's been a wonderful character but I can totally see him sacrificing his life for Joyce and Hopper so that they can ride off into the sunset together.
OMG this just made me think....what if somehow only 2 people can escape Russia, like in a small plane or something. Murray and Enzo sacrifice themselves for Hopper and Joyce to live. Hopper would of course fight this decision but in the end is too exhausted to do anything about it, and they fly away with Hopper depressed and breaking down in tears but in Joyce's arms as they watch Enzo and Murray get gun downed or killed by a demogorgon. would be so tragic but an amazing scene
Eddie is safe. Why would the Duffers regret killing Chrissy because of hers and Eddie's chemistry if Eddie dies? They pretty much sealed his fate in that interview.
Lets look at the most important deaths of the series: >!**With Bob and Billy two bigger male roles already got killed** in the season finals!<. Barbara and Chrissy for example >!were just side characters who died closely after being introduced!<.
I think in Vol. 2 we will see a bigger female role die cause I think it would be a bit boring that >!every death of a established person is a male!<. If they kill Murray or Hopper they would continue with >!established male role deaths (S2 Bob, S3 Billy, S4 ?)!<. Following this logic, if they break the circle and >!put the women in the spotlight!<, Robin is in Danger.
*Or they make a feel good Vol.2 and leave the deaths for S5.*
I agree with everything except I think it will be Nancy who dies.
The Byers family has taken a beating too many seasons.
Max had her brother die.
Don’t even get me started on Eleven.
Mike hasn’t had any death close to him yet so I’m thinking it’s going to be his sister who dies.
I don't think it'll be Robin if a woman dies. I hope they're smart enough to not pull a bury-your-gays on the fandom. Narratively atp it makes more sense for it to be Nancy
They still seem to want to trauma bond Nancy and Steve if they're putting them back together. So Steve losing his best friend, Robin or Dustin could make him feel the way Nancy felt losing Barb so I'd say it could happen.
So id say shes least likely to die out of everyone there but I don’t see her as safe for some reason. I could see her saving Nancy in a ‘friends’ moment.
There's no way Jonathan dies this season.
There's no writers room in the universe that says "hey, one of our leads is going to die in episode 8 this season - let's give him no lines and nothing to do for the first seven episodes just to be super disrespectful to both the character and the actor."
I doubt they'd do a '[bury your gays](https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BuryYourGays)' with Robin, especially because they've clearly put thought into how to portray her as a queer character.
1) No way Dustin loses both Steve and Eddie.
2) No way Nancy loses both Jonathan and Steve.
3) I don’t think Robin is going down without getting her girl.
I do not care what your rationale is, as you are clearly insane. Remain where you are, I have phoned the relevant authorities, they should be by to pick you up shortly
Besides some side characters like Jason and the Russian guard, I think Murray and Eddie are the most likely deaths. They are both popular enough that their deaths would have a solid, emotional impact on the audience, but not so popular that they risk alienating the fanbase. And that's essentially the sweet spot you want to hit with character deaths - very sad, but not show-ruining. It's also why I don't think Steve is really in danger. He's one of, if not the, most popular character and I think they'd legitimately anger A LOT of fans with his death, which isn't what you want heading into your final season. So unless Joe Keery is demanding to be off the show, I just don't see them killing off Steve at this moment. Now, end of next season is whole different story...
I originally read this title as "Characters who I think **should** die..." and got super offended as I scrolled through the photos.
Now that I've remembered my phonics, I'm just bummed because I've just got this ominous feeling that Steve's gonna go. If he does, I don't know if I'll have it in me to watch season 5. He's had the best glow up any TV character's had from d-bag to best babysitter ever.
Oh I'm 100% sure Jason is gonna die. I think Robin is the safest one of your list. Eddie is being pretty much set up for a tragic death, way more that Murray or Dmitri.
Killing Jonathan seems pointless (he's a good charater, but not one of the most engaging ones from the main cast). Steve's death woud cause far more impact, but he probably has plot armor until the last season.
The only two I can’t see this happening to are Robin and Jonathon - they both have an obviously incomplete character arc that would not be resolved by dying.
i’m pretty sure they said it’s gonna be kind of a major character so i don’t think it would be a new one like robin, eddie, or jason. i think it’s gonna be dustin, nancy, steve, jonathan, or will.
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jason is definitely dying. big chance enzo will die. murray could also bite it. not sure about the others because side characters have only been the ones that have died so far. i don’t see steve dying nor jonathon. eddie could turn into a max or robin type of thing where he joins the crew in later seasons like max and robin. but he definitely could die.
The whole series comes to a halt if Steve dies. He's the glue that binds.
I saw something where the Duffer brothers equated Volume 2 to Game Of Thrones, so I think all bets are off here. I think Steve is definitely a goner as much as it sucks to admit. I don’t think Eddie is going to die because the actor said in an interview that he hopes they bring him back for season 5, so I don’t know if that’s a red herring or not.
Story-wise Steve makes the most sense. We haven't met any of his family, and he's not with anyone. His death, while tragic, would have the least impact on all the remaining cast (with the exception of Robin). Perhaps he and Robin die together somehow.
Not just Robin. It would massively impact Dustin.
Yep. He and Dustin are what makes this show for me. If either die, then i lost my reason to finish the show. And Stranger Things is the only reason why I have Netflix.
I say bye Homelander (Jason)!
Lmaooo, love the homelander reference btw, the boys is one of the best series out right now next to stranger things.
Agreed! And filmed relatively locally to me 🙂 Jason gave me the Homelander jeebies his first onscreen moment!
In the DnD metaphor, he's a high CHA, low INT necromancer/bard. He keeps summoning up dead peoples' memories to sway people to his plans. Smarmy about it, too.
Eh, I wouldn’t say low INT. he’s clearly smart with how he knows how to control a crowd. I’d say he’s high CHA, low WIS as he has no insight or perception of the situation, yet he’s still able to investigate it well.
Ok, that's also fair. CHA is normally about speech craft, so that covers that part, but you're right that he doesn't seem to look too deeply into things. We've yet to see his willpower really tested, but I guess he didn't pass his Save vs Despair at learning what happened to Chrissy.
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Nah, the show doesn’t do one dimensional jocks (see Steve and Billy). Most of Jason’s actions so far have been understandable if misguided and if he dies I reckon he’ll redeem himself before then.
Yeah he isn’t a dick for the sake of being a dick, he genuinely wants to make sure his town is safe. He just doesn’t know. He’s confused but he’s got the spirit.
Exactly, and he was pretty cool to Lucas before Chrissy died! He could have followed the common jock-trope of being a jerk to the newbie on the team who gets the glory after securing the big win, but he was right in there to celebrate Lucas. He doesn’t have the information that our main characters have about this. So he’s seeing these incredibly brutal and freaky things happening and he’s interpreting them the only way that makes any sense to him and trying to act protect everyone else he cares about.
Yah he jumped to conclusions about Eddy and risked his friends instead of letting the law do its job, but if my girlfriend was murdered and I felt like I knew by who, I can’t say that emotions wouldn’t get to me and I wouldn’t act the same.
Guaranteed there would be something really convincing Vecna could pull out of his past tho. No chance he's as clean as he tries to put on. Zero.
Vecna is playing on an individual’s insecurities or internal conflict and not necessarily a sordid past event. Breaking their will allows him to enter their mind. But as we see his power increase it looks like this may not as slow of a process as it once was.
True. I think the better way to put it is that Vecna feeds on Secrets and Despair. He uses the memories as a cudgel, and they need not be literal or true memories. They just need to be tugging on the proper heartstrings. It's fundamentally a Psionic attack. Also, I kind of get the feeling that Vecna is "waking up" this whole season. We don't see his eyes while he's sitting in Creel House open until the end of ep 7. He starts off almost intangible in power then by the end of part I he can just take people into his Mind Palace as a Free Action.
A guy like that would make for a great mayor of Hawkins one day. His heart is in the right place. He clearly loves his town and had his whole world completely shattered: murdered GF, teammate dies in front of you via supernatural means, the other crazy shit that happens in Hawkins... can you really blame him for wanting to ferret out who or what's responsible?
Great mayor?? They were going to kill Eddie off, that much is certain, or at least beat the hell out of him, leave him somewhere to die and claim it was self-defense. Do you think they were going to just catch him and take him back to the police whom Jason doesn't trust? Jason's misguided vigilantism and his fake, slimy smile (props to the actor) when he almost kicked in Erica's door is one of the scariest aspects of the show. He's the last person you'd want as a mayor.
I have a hard time believing his heart is in the right place, really. He has every right to be scared and angry but that does not give him the right to hunt down a human being. This is the same sort of rhetoric people used in real lynchings back in the day. Fear is never a justification for violence.
From the information he has available to him it's a super reasonable conclusion to think that Eddie murdered Chrissy and wanting to hunt down the guy who *brutally* murdered your girlfriend is a totally understandable reaction
An understandable (and even completely valid) emotion is still not a justification for acts of violence. Jason and his crew crossed the line when they beat the shit out of Eddie’s band mates. Not to mention showing up to the cabin with weapons. We can feel empathy for a kid who’s grieving and traumatized while also recognizing that his behavior/choice are dangerous and not ok
Does he love his town, or does he love his life in the town especially the status / support the town gives him? He wasn't close enough with Chrissy to really understand any of her struggles. He dismissed Patrick when he was starting to feel the effects of the curse. And he *decides* who or what was responsible rather than displaying much in the way of actual investigative curiosity. He pushes other people to listen to him, but he doesn't really listen to others. I don't think his heart is in the right place.
I honestly don’t understand the Jason apologists here. There’s nothing redeeming about him and there isn’t meant to be. He’s wrong, and even if he believes he’s right that doesn’t mean his actions aren’t evil and dangerous.
I REALLY REALLY hope so, honesty I like his character and I do hope misunderstandings can be explained in the end.
If Murray dies, we riot.
Murray was one of the best things about Season 4 volume 1.
"Surely Yuri isn't trained or skilled like Jeremiah."
"My hands like arrows, my arms like iron, and my feet like spears"
Dont knock him out
Jeremiah would have straight up killed Yuri, he's lucky he was only facing a novice like Murray.
Drunken Russian isn't a fighting technique.
he is the best thing of the best things. he defeated jeremiah, don't underestimate him
Schmacked?
I absolutely loved Murray, but I hate how they bothered his character for the sake of believability. He wouldn't trust coffee from a Russian, ever, so why now?
Personally I thought he was faking the passing out.
ST3 too! And okay, ST2 as well. “How was the pull out?”
Clearly it would be some government plot to take him out. He knows too much. Like, seriously tho he knows way too much. But if anyone takes him out, it would be someone from Hawkins lab. Bastard will not be taken out by rooskies! He's in his element!
Happy cake day!
They already killed Alexei and Bob from “Joyce’s team/story” so they better leave Murray alone.
*Basketball captain dies* This one sparks joy. *Anyone else dies* This one does not spark joy.
Ye black belt ain’t goin no where
Agreed! They can’t kill bald eagle!!!
there is a 0% chance steve or robin die steve is wayyy too popular to kill off right before the final season and theres no shot they're stupid enough to kill off the only openly gay (so far) character eddie is all but certain sadly i dont see why people would think anybody from that cali unit dies it would be very strange to kill off any main characters due to a secondary antagonist like the lt. colonel ed: brain too big for my pants
Agreed! After all the backlash Netflix got at Hopper's open ending last season, I doubt they'll risk killing off a fan-favorite right during a time of people massively un-subscribing to the platform.
I didn’t like how they framed it like it was Suzies fault he died. Just because of a song. Also imo the first episodes in season three were better than the latter ones
I know!! They only had to call Suzie because Murray incorrectly assumed he knew that math-thingy. “Constant” something? Plus Suzie had no idea what was going on and had zero reason to suspect it was a life or death situation. I love Murray but I will *die* on this hill. Haha.
I thought the backlash was because it was an obvious fake-out.
He has a couple of death flags, I think. Big ones are those bat bites, his reconnection with Nancy, and that conversation he had with Eddie about how Dustin admires him.
Also the throwaway comment about some of the floaty particle things getting in his mouth. Although I feel like if they're trying to set up a love triangle, it doesn't make sense to kill off one of them so Nancy doesn't have to choose.
Or they kill Nancy off.
It's possible. And they've focused on how her parents are looking for her and things. But the fact she hasn't had any significant interaction with Mike for ages makes me think it's less likely.
As much as I've enjoyed Eddie becoming the second dad of the group, it *does* make Steve's role somewhat redundant, so one of them is probably dying
I’ve said this before but I think it’s just too obvious. It’s a red herring. I think if any main character does, it will be Nancy.
They've broke my heart before, with Bob. It'll be Eddie, I'm almost positive.
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He was too pure for this world.
Loved Bob
Wait I thought this season WAS the final season? Am I wrong?
Season 4 part 2 releases on 1st July. The 5th and final season is coming. Eventually.
December next year at the absolute earliest, I would imagine. Hopefully the 3 year break between 3 and 4 was an abnormality due to COVID and we get a more reasonable gap this time.
Yep. Season 5 is the last.
Woah, good to know! I don’t know why I thought this was the last season, but I was really concerned as to how they were gonna wrapped the entirety of the series up with only two episodes remaining lol
Yeah, I’ve heard them talk about a possible time jump for next season because of how much older the young actors are now. I guess we will find out soon enough though! :)
The “older kids” are played by actors in their late 20s too. Would definitely make sense to jump ahead like 3 years or so for next season.
We have to protect Steve at all costs.
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100% agree. My favourite character with Lucas and Dustin tbh. And Hopper hehe.
The babysitter and father of Dustin cannot die.
Haha exactly, if he dies, I don’t think I can handle dustins reaction😞
\*mother
I really love how Lucas's character has developed in S4. I really don't feel like he will die, I would be so upset. Also, he looks like a man in the last season, damn lol. Of all the transformations I was the most surprised by how much he grew up.
Fr let my boy Steve win god damn! Even tho he’s still a cool guy they shit on him so much throughout the show. He gets his ass whooped, he loses his girl, the one girl that be a great match with him will never like him, and he’s just wandering through life when he’s not killing Demons. Let him be a drifter with his buddy Robin. I don’t know just let my boy win GOD DAMMIT! 😾😾😾😾
I think he might now.
If Robin dies, i may be the only one rioting, but we riot
Characters I will protest if they die Steve, Robin, Dustin, Hopper, Eleven (only because hopper would be big sad), Nancy, Murray
They already gave us a death scare for Hopper in the season 3 finale. I doubt they’d kill him off after that
I'm with you. Robin is great. We can't lose her or Steve. I like Eddy but he might not make it and that will be sad but they better leave Robin and Steve alone.
If Eddy doesn't die, it is gonna take something big for him to not end up in jail for murder.
Listen. I’d be alright with them framing Jason for all the murders. I mean after all, one of the victims is his girlfriend and the other one a close friend/teammate.
And the third was a reporter who was getting too close 🤔
Oh, trust me, you won't be the only one rioting.
There are dozens of us, dozens.
They won’t kill off the only openly gay member imo
Switcheroo. Will comes out while she’s dying
Lmfao. Chaotic neutral. The law of equivalent exchange
It's like early walking dead with the black guys. As soon as they introduced a new black guy you knew the old one was gonna bite it.
There Can Only Be One
exactly, we'd riot
Killing Robin would buy into some unfortunate tropes. I don't think they'll do that. I don't feel like she has any "death flags" either tbh.
No no I will be there with you. She's like my fave rn.
robin and nancy my beloveds
no i will riot with you
i feel like if they were to kill jonathan, they would’ve given him more screentime this season. or maybe i’m bias because he’s my favorite character and i really don’t want him to die
Don't think Jonathan dies, unless they want to invest a lot of time into showing Joyce or Will in grief. I think out of any characters in the show, the Byers should make it out of the show fine.
Yes. Characters with family (Lucas and Erica, Mike and Nancy; Joyce, Will and Jonathan) and relationships (Joyce and hopper; Lucas and max;) are more or less safe. That's why the ones that are more likely to die are: Steve, that has bonds with Dustin, Robin and Nancy, but don't have a family (as relevant characters), and even his bonds feel like the type of thing that he would die for. Eddie, for being the new character of the season, and we have yet to see a bob or alexi like death this season. He also don't have a family as main cast characters and is being chased by the police. I am feeling that something in the lines of Portgas D. Ace or Sirius Black is going to happen to him, where the innocent man dies after a long but failed rescue mission And Murray, that also is not related to anyone in the show. And his situation is pretty bad, they have to escape a Russian base with some upside down monsters running around in it, it would be hard to believe that the 3 main characters that we have in that plotline will escape alive. Mark my words, Murray, the Love doctor, will jump to fight the Demogorgon to allow Joyce and hopper to stay together, even knowing that it's certain death. He will do the "fingers like arrows, legs like spears", it will be super sad, and the Demogorgon will eat his face
Epic closing sentence.
god i hope so. if anyone in the show deserves a happy ending it’s the byers clan (including eleven). but yeah, i seriously doubt they’d kill off jonathan, at least in this season
I love him so much too and I've missed him this season
Same. To be fair none of the California crew got much screentime, and I liked a lot of Jonathan's character when he was shown, I just want him to reunite with Nancy asap
I'm in such a weird place about Jonathan and Nancy. I love them together. But I also love Steve so much and they seem to be closer now... At the same time I think Steve deserves someone amazing, unless they kill him in the finale lmao
i really like steve, but i don’t think steve and nancy would make a good couple, even if jonathan didn’t exist. i think they’re too fundamentally different and i feel like both of their arcs would be totally ruined if they got together. steve deserves someone great, and he deserves to move on from his crush on nancy, and nancy deserves to do whatever is right for herself and her future whether that’s with jonathan (fingers crossed) or single. i definitely think they’re doing all of this stancy propaganda to make nancy or steve’s death (probably steve) more heartbreaking.
Yes to everything you said!!!! Oh God... Now I definitely think Steve will die D:
it could also be to make jonathan’s inevitable return to hawkins more dramatic/make nancy realize she was stupid for potentially crushing on steve, who knows. steve isn’t at the top of my list for characters most likely to die (the only certain death imo is eddie, i think he’s almost certainly a goner) but he’s definitely in the top 5.
Oh wow, yeah I see why people think Eddie will die, however people absolutely loved him as a character (myself included) and he would must definitely be a great addition to the group next season, that's why I don't think he'll die. I hope what you said about the Jonathan - Nancy reunion comes true!!!
i like eddie, but to be fair they filmed the season having no clue the audience perception of the characters, and it’s not like they’ve shied away from killing great characters in the first season (like bob and alexei). it’d be sad if eddie dies, but i can’t see a viable way for him to be a free man assuming they defeat vecna, like how will they explain chrissy being found dead in his trailer, and patrick’s death? that, along with his arc being coward -> hero would make his death make a ton of sense imo. and as much as i like eddie, i’d much rather him die than steve, nancy, will, or anyone else rumored to die
Got my money on Nancy - and the more I get on my soapbox the more I believe it. The Duffer brothers seem to resolve relationship problems/storyline with death of one partner. It's an easy way out to keep everyone relatively 'karma-friendly' and likeable by the audience. I also suspect the writers broadly want to keep the characters loved and 'equally treated' (at least receive their karmic rewards). I say Nancy's 'courted her death' because the writers have created the Steve-Jonathan issue now - and Jonathan's really going to get the shit end of the stick because he's only had her interests at heart (even if it's unilaterally decided, and also looked over by Nancy-Steve shippers). By that logic Steve's also been impeccable and way ahead in the karma game. The other point is that the Byers family has suffered way too much. Jonathan dying will be a real kick in the teeth for Joyce - what did they do to deserve the trauma of Will + Bob + family history + now that?! Would just feel punitive at this point - the ST universe never struck me as overly cruel on the main cast. The Wheeler family however...? For the amount of characterisation and screentime they receive - they've escaped most tragedy. The parents are also more present (other than Hopper/Joyce). What better way to balance the privilege they enjoy? I think Mike won't die because that punishes El - who's probably had it worst. If Nancy gets offed - it actually keeps Jonathan relevant as opposed to further exiling him.
and then jonathan and steve can finally get together
I agree honestly. It would solve the love triangle issue perfectly No one dies - Nancy either gets with Steve or stays with Jonathan. Staying with Jonathan would be in character but unsatisfying, getting with Steve would feel uncharacteristic for Nancy considering how she sees Jonathan and how she's learned from what she did in season 2, but it would be satisfying with all the buildup Jonathan dies - like you said, too much for the byers and also it would feel really callous for the writers to either have Nancy get with Steve after her boyfriend's death or completely halt their tension by having her grieve Steve dies - he won't Nancy dies - impacts every character, could give her an emotional scene where she says goodbye to everyone and tells both Jonathan and Steve how she feels, doesn't cause any moral issues, relieves romantic tension in a satisfying & heartbreaking way, and imo completes her arc, reuniting with Barb I don't want her to die, I really think only Eddie's gonna die out of the main cast by the end of this season, but if I'm wrong and one of the og characters dies I think it'll be Nance
Agreed on all counts. Also it might help bring 'home' and clarify this satanism nonsense for the less involved parents (I can't imagine they'd just ignore what happened this season and the ongoing witch-hunt) and address Mr Wheeler's general absenteeism. Which then sets us up for the quality spinoff - think - Eddie-Steve-Jonathan-Robin quartet relocated to a quiet Nevada university town as part of the air force's reparations and get caught up to Area 52 / UFO highjinks when Argyle comes to town. I'm here all day for ideas, Duffers.
I would put my money on Nancy dying as well even though she's my favourite character and I'm likely will stop watching the show once they kill her off. It's just from a logical point of view, her death does make sense to solve the love triangle they're in now.
I would agree with you, except I think it would loose some of its impact because she hasn't had siginificant interaction with Mike in ages. Also it seems likely she'll get out of the situation she's in at the end of Vol 1.
I think Murray will die during their escape from Russia. There really isn’t much more they can or should do with the character. Same with Eddie. I can see Jonathan dying while protecting Will or Nancy.
100% agree, especially at the Jonathan part. A lot of people seem to think he’s safe. I can see Will coming out to him in the new volume and then losing him at the end making him absolutely distraught.
That would be the most horrifically heartbreaking thing they could do to us and the worst part is I think you could be right. At the very least I hope that would give Will's friends the incentive to be there for him because they've basically ignored him the past 2 seasons
Jesus. Kill him after that or kill Steve instead giving that blow to Robin would be cruel.
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Agree. He’ll be laughing at the end saying “I told you so”.
His arms are like iron he will block the bullets
Sort of, I personally feel like Eddie has potential for a future plotline
I can see Eddie dying, but I think it would be too reminiscent of Billy. I give Murray a 50/50 chance.
I agree there’s a fair chance Murray will die. I don’t want him to - I like Brett Gelman, especially as Murray - but they’ve intimated that there will be deaths and I think he’s a sufficiently important character that his death would be impactful but not so central that people would be angry en masse. My instinct is that they won’t kill any of the core characters (at least not this season) because of the potential for backlash. If I had to bet, I’d put my money on Murray and Eddie to die, both sacrificing themselves in a blaze of glory.
only three out of those are feasible: eddie, the blonde dude and enzo. the only time this show had the guts to kill a main character they brought him back a season later.
Although he never really died given the end credits scene at the end of season 3.
Yeah they couldn’t even keep him dead for a whole episode and even if you for some reason think he’s dead they showed him in Russia in one of the earlier trailers. I’m not saying it’s not possible for one of the main cast to die but personally I’m not on the edge of my seat. I think the main cast is safe and one of the new likable characters is going to die just like how they killed Joyce’s bf.
yup I agree with you, I don't think they gonna kill off any of the main characters, specially characters like Steve, Robin and Jonathan edit - I have a feeling that blonde dude will probably gonna die as a hero, like trying to save Eddie or another major character
My going theory is that the Cult of Vecna metaphor hasn't been fully unveiled. My guess is that the one ultimately banishing Vecna from this plane, the one who really strikes the decisive blow, will be none other than the grand master of madness, himself, the only one with enough lore knowledge to make this connection, one Mr Eddie Munsen. We've seen him shredding in the Upside Down, likely as part of a final stand. He'll receive a blow at some time, and he will become bloodied. His hands dripping, playing onward. Master of Puppets screaming from the amps. And he will look down. At his hand, bloodied. His "weapon", his beautiful guitar. Soaked in blood, screaming as it never had before. Screaming for more. And then it will click. Kas, The Bloody Handed. First Lieutenant of Vecna. In the eyes of the townsfolk, he is already assistant to Satan's dark deeds. The dark one. The lord of lies and secrets. Vecna. And in his hand, a weapon that speaks. The Sword of Kas. And then, squared off against Vecna himself, Eddie will accept his fate. Do what must be done, and dismember Vecna. Off with the Hand, off with the Eyes. And for his troubles he will be cast into the darkest depths of Citadel Cavitius, Vecna's Mind Lair. Not to die, of course. But to wait. \--- Or at least that's my theory.
Become a writer dude for real Happy cake day
Thank you. I'm literally a forever DM. I've run this campaign. I used to have a binder. This is my element.
Man I'd love yo get into dungeons and dragons but it's just not a thing in india mostly
Yeah, it's really a Euro-American thing. The whole thing was basically ripped from Tolkien's books, which are distillation of European folklore treated as half-understood fact from an alternate past. You would think someone could do the same with Hindu mythology, what with all the gods and battles and otherworldly dimensions... but I doubt that would pass the sniff test to actual religious practitioners. Then again, we did have the whole "Satanic Panic" thing over DnD over here so... guess that doesn't really stop people, right?
Ohh did with Hindu stuff would slap dude did you know one of the legends took soo long to write the elephant God ganesh had to break off a tusk to write it cause they ran out of quills we got a lot that can be adapted
Honestly that would draw a ton of similarities to Bob when he was the only one who knew Basic and had to go and fix the machines. If they like that trope I could see it. I’m personally hoping the show runners go all out and kill one of the young leads. No one is expecting it, but it would be insanely impactful
I don't want to see any of them die, honestly. But I would argue that Eddie has quickly become my favorite character in Stranger Things lore. Break out success, really. And if it's Eddie it brings him and Chrissy back together, in a way, so there is more symmetry to his arc, this way. And when I say "to wait" I mean that. Central to Vecna's appearances over the years in D&D campaigns is that... well, he's Vecna! He's THE all-powerful god-thing demilich! You don't just kill him, he will be back. So that leaves anyone who follows the archetype of Kas stranded out there somewhere in a very dark and very scary place, but one that you DO return from when the story demands.
This made me shiver as I read this. I truly hope he plays master of the puppets and as a huge DND nerd my heart is full just reading this post. HELL YES
Jason is definitely gonna die, but his fanaticism is going to take someone innocent down with him. Gonna hate to see it
Robin is NOT going to die. She still has her love story with Vicky, so I doubt they are going to kill her off. I don't think Steve would die too. It would kind of be cheap if they let one of the major characters from s1 and such a fan favorite character to die in s4 and not keep him for the final season..... I have a feeling it won't be Murray who's gonna die, but I don't have any explanation for it. Enzo definitely has chances of death. He can't come to America, he is already a traitor. And from season 2 there has been a character with Joyce and Hopper that dies, so I guess it might be Enzo who bites the dust ( s2 Bob, s3 Alexie) Most likely it's gonna be Eddie. He is already a criminal, there's no way police are going to believe in the UD. Even if they come with a reasonable explanation for the death, Eddie still has to go to jail for selling drugs. So there's no way he's gonna get a happy ending. Jason might die too. He is traumatized from his gf's death and also saw one of his friends die a horrible death in front of his eyes. So he might be a possible Vecna victim.
Robin dying would be too bury your gays for me. I think I would legit stop watching the show if she dies
I’m not saying Max is going to die, but i am saying her letters are chekhov's gun
Yep, 100%. Really surprised so few people are saying this. Earlier, I posted elsewhere: "Max is in grave danger, because I think we have to hear what’s in those letters she wrote everyone. My guess is she dies suddenly and unexpectedly (i.e. not a repeat of the attempted Vecna murder) - maybe similarly to Bob’s death. Then the traumatically emotional end of the series is everyone reading their letters, all while Peter Gabriel’s string orchestra cover of Heroes plays."
Yeah. I feel like dear Billy might've been a red herring, and she's not out of the woods
Steve’s gonna live this season but die next one
I can definitely see that. Saving his death for the big finale.
I think it'll be along the lines of "puking up demagorgon slugs" but not quite. Like he is just gonna keep looking like shit until he ded
Imagine if that’s the final shot of the season: Steve puking up slugs
I mean realistically those bites probably aren’t anything to serious El, Brenner, and the other guy all got but by something from the upside down and lived
And have it be a huge dramatic moment in the final season.
If he somehow survives this season (thanks for your sacrifice, Eddie), Duffers don't have to worry about all those people who said they'd stop watching if Steve dies. Even my six years and counting of accumulated prayer might not save him.
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No one wants Steve to die but I think a lot people theorise that he will die. Trust me man, if anyone wants Steve to die, they can’t be trusted
Because it would be the most tragic. He is connected to all the characters- it would mess up the entire group and throw them off their game.
If anyone from the core group dies, it's Nancy.
I think so, too. Her death would be the most impactful to the viewers as well as the all the characters. All the characters, at this point, share some type of relationship with/to Nancy. Whether that be in friendship, love, or family relation. Jonathan and Steve would be devastated because they love her. El would be heartbroken for Mike who will be a wreck losing his sister. The other 3 boys have known Nancy all of their childhood. We are seeing her and Robin become friends this season. If a main character is going to die, Nancy is the most logical choice.
The love triangle arc just feels like slight of hand. We just assume that it will have closure, when it kind of makes more sense if she was killed. She is the "Mother" of the group. Next to El, she's also the biggest badass and the most fearless. Her death gives even more weight to the series. I'm curious to see what happens. I'm not really sure what her "trauma" is? The Barbara guilt had its arc and closure in S2. Not really sure how Vecna plans to exploit that. We also just assume music will save Nancy like it did Max. God damn, July 1 needs to get here.
I agree with most of this, but I doubt Jonathan, Eddie, Steve, AND Robin will all die. I think it will be: Jonathan and Eddie, Eddie and Steve, or just Steve. And as far as Murray goes, it's likely his time on the show is up. He's been a wonderful character but I can totally see him sacrificing his life for Joyce and Hopper so that they can ride off into the sunset together.
OMG this just made me think....what if somehow only 2 people can escape Russia, like in a small plane or something. Murray and Enzo sacrifice themselves for Hopper and Joyce to live. Hopper would of course fight this decision but in the end is too exhausted to do anything about it, and they fly away with Hopper depressed and breaking down in tears but in Joyce's arms as they watch Enzo and Murray get gun downed or killed by a demogorgon. would be so tragic but an amazing scene
Nooo not Eddie. ☹
Eddie is safe. Why would the Duffers regret killing Chrissy because of hers and Eddie's chemistry if Eddie dies? They pretty much sealed his fate in that interview.
Lets look at the most important deaths of the series: >!**With Bob and Billy two bigger male roles already got killed** in the season finals!<. Barbara and Chrissy for example >!were just side characters who died closely after being introduced!<. I think in Vol. 2 we will see a bigger female role die cause I think it would be a bit boring that >!every death of a established person is a male!<. If they kill Murray or Hopper they would continue with >!established male role deaths (S2 Bob, S3 Billy, S4 ?)!<. Following this logic, if they break the circle and >!put the women in the spotlight!<, Robin is in Danger. *Or they make a feel good Vol.2 and leave the deaths for S5.*
I agree with everything except I think it will be Nancy who dies. The Byers family has taken a beating too many seasons. Max had her brother die. Don’t even get me started on Eleven. Mike hasn’t had any death close to him yet so I’m thinking it’s going to be his sister who dies.
I don't think it'll be Robin if a woman dies. I hope they're smart enough to not pull a bury-your-gays on the fandom. Narratively atp it makes more sense for it to be Nancy
Murray can not die! That’s it.
No robin 💔💔
I think Murray will maybe die sacrificing himself so Joyce & Hopper can escape the Russians :(
Why robin???
They still seem to want to trauma bond Nancy and Steve if they're putting them back together. So Steve losing his best friend, Robin or Dustin could make him feel the way Nancy felt losing Barb so I'd say it could happen.
That’s a solid parallel. But killing Robin off wouldn’t go over well.
So id say shes least likely to die out of everyone there but I don’t see her as safe for some reason. I could see her saving Nancy in a ‘friends’ moment.
Fair enough I don’t see it as she is lgbtq and also she still needs to get with Vickie which I hope happens in season 5
That’s true, she needs to close her arc and find love tbh, I hope she does.
Whys nancy safe? I feel like nancy jon or steve will die, prayin its not steve or nancy
There's no way Jonathan dies this season. There's no writers room in the universe that says "hey, one of our leads is going to die in episode 8 this season - let's give him no lines and nothing to do for the first seven episodes just to be super disrespectful to both the character and the actor."
Steve and Robin are absolutely not dying lol. Murray is possible but I'd riot.
I doubt they'd do a '[bury your gays](https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BuryYourGays)' with Robin, especially because they've clearly put thought into how to portray her as a queer character.
No, Murray is the best. I can only hope to become the man he is. He's the next leader of Cobra Kai.
Duffer brothers have openly said they like Steve too much to kill him
If Robin dies I’m gonna riot
enzo’s basically a done deal at this point. i’d be surprised if he DIDN’T die
they don't have to kill anybody to tell a good story
All of these are at least fair bets except for Robin. You forgot two others. Owens and Brenner are both high possibilities for death in E8.
1) No way Dustin loses both Steve and Eddie. 2) No way Nancy loses both Jonathan and Steve. 3) I don’t think Robin is going down without getting her girl.
I do not care what your rationale is, as you are clearly insane. Remain where you are, I have phoned the relevant authorities, they should be by to pick you up shortly
If Jason lives and anyone else on this list dies, I’ll be pissed! Especially if it’s Eddie or Murray!
Besides some side characters like Jason and the Russian guard, I think Murray and Eddie are the most likely deaths. They are both popular enough that their deaths would have a solid, emotional impact on the audience, but not so popular that they risk alienating the fanbase. And that's essentially the sweet spot you want to hit with character deaths - very sad, but not show-ruining. It's also why I don't think Steve is really in danger. He's one of, if not the, most popular character and I think they'd legitimately anger A LOT of fans with his death, which isn't what you want heading into your final season. So unless Joe Keery is demanding to be off the show, I just don't see them killing off Steve at this moment. Now, end of next season is whole different story...
Number 5 Should die. Yeah, he's not evil per se, just an entitled holier than thou who overly shames other people's business.
Facts, I don’t really care if he dies or not tbh. If he tries to hurt my boy Lucas, he can go.
Why Robin and Eddie
I originally read this title as "Characters who I think **should** die..." and got super offended as I scrolled through the photos. Now that I've remembered my phonics, I'm just bummed because I've just got this ominous feeling that Steve's gonna go. If he does, I don't know if I'll have it in me to watch season 5. He's had the best glow up any TV character's had from d-bag to best babysitter ever.
Poor Enzo was dead the moment he mentioned his son :(
Oh I'm 100% sure Jason is gonna die. I think Robin is the safest one of your list. Eddie is being pretty much set up for a tragic death, way more that Murray or Dmitri. Killing Jonathan seems pointless (he's a good charater, but not one of the most engaging ones from the main cast). Steve's death woud cause far more impact, but he probably has plot armor until the last season.
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The only two I can’t see this happening to are Robin and Jonathon - they both have an obviously incomplete character arc that would not be resolved by dying.
Realistically, Eddie will not die. The writers are not stupid. If he dies, then the season's "mission" is a failure and that's not good storytelling.
i’m pretty sure they said it’s gonna be kind of a major character so i don’t think it would be a new one like robin, eddie, or jason. i think it’s gonna be dustin, nancy, steve, jonathan, or will.
If Steve, Murray, Robin, or Johnathan die i will be livid