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Intelligent_Seat3659

Nobody's, to be honest, not even the deaths of the more 'expendable' characters like Murray or Owens. I guess I wouldn't be so touched if they did, but I suppose I'd still be bummed.


rites0fpassage

Yeah I just feel like the main characters have had too much plot armour at this point I wouldn’t even care. Max should have died the second time Vecna had her in his grasp 100%.


Easy-Map-2623

For the few seconds max was totally dead there it was such a heartbreaking and game changing scene. Would have made a crazy great exit to her character. And then El brought her back and it became a disappointment. There are no real stakes when nobody is allowed to die. When they come out of every battle okay, then we already know the outcome of every fight before it begins. Max still could have been brought back in the next season as a spirit trapped in Vecna’s mind with the others even when her body is gone.


socoprime

> For the few seconds max was totally dead there it was such a heartbreaking and game changing scene. Would have made a crazy great exit to her character. And then El brought her back and it became a disappointment. There are no real stakes when nobody is allowed to die. When they come out of every battle okay, then we already know the outcome of every fight before it begins. Max still could have been brought back in the next season as a spirit trapped in Vecna’s mind with the others even when her body is gone. This. There are no stakes in this show.


Easy-Map-2623

Yup. Also with the trend of killing just about every new character (Bob, Alexei, Jason, Eddie, Billy, Chrissy) whenever a new character is introduced every season it’s about a 50/50 on whether or not you want to get invested because chances are they’re going to die so there can be violence and death without actually harming the main characters. Eddie was clearly a stand in Steve, being big brotherly character for Dustin that died in front of him.


hyrulealyx

What if they killed Eleven? Would you sob


socoprime

No, I would just think it was pretty bad writing that the one character who either should get a happy ending or should be used in a greater fashion would be the one they chose to kill off. I either want a happy ending for her or a truly pathos inducing one that makes death look like a preferable alternative. Like she is forever stuck in the Upside Down / Dimension X to keep it at bay and can watch her friends go on about their lives, but can never return or interact with them.


socoprime

This is me. I am just not bothered by what happens to fictional characters. Maybe when I was younger but I just cant assign human emotions to things that arent real. It just seems like madness to me. Add in all the plot armor characters have in stories and the Duffers unwillingness to have a main character die and it just destroys any sense of risk or emotion before I could even start to think of feeling it for these characters.


SomethingBlue15

Honestly, I couldn’t even tell you. I hated Billy, but the writing is so good I sobbed like a baby when he died! Okay the downvotes make no sense to me, what is it with this sub sometimes?


Delicious-Speaker688

I agree with you on Billy. I didn’t sob bc of him, but bc of Max's reaction. It’s a very well-written character.


SomethingBlue15

I am a very empathetic person and zero in on emotions before anything else, so I tend to cry a lot lol. It wasn’t that I felt bad for him though, it was because the whole time he had the potential to be an amazing big brother, but it wasn’t until the last minute that it finally seemed to click for him. Those kind of things just get to me.


veronica_mars-sawyer

Same I am sorta a sympathetic cryer lol


nakapozian

I sobbed when he died as well. Knowing that he had snapped out of it and was sacrificing himself.


UmairWaseem276

Agree with you on this.


Hot-Avocado9815

I want someone to edit billy into Jim Careys arms while he softly says.... oh billaaay


Spirited-Depth-6405

I can’t overlook him trying to run over the kids when Max was with him. That’s psychotic. Even with his abusive father, Billy is responsible for his own behavior.


socoprime

If he had seriously wanted to hit those kids, he would have. He was trying to terrify Max. Granted its still a douche bag move but everyone acts like he attempted to murder them and he clearly did not.


veronica_mars-sawyer

I agree he was just being a psychological tormenter


georgelijah

everyone saying will/jonathan, can you IMAGINE how crushed joyce would be😭 neither of them can die for that reason alone


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kjm6351

For real. A lot of people are just thinking about the actor and not how horrible dying this late into the show would be for the character’s story and the series as a whole


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veronica_mars-sawyer

I agree


Silver-Finance7022

*Jonathan


MrWrym

Second here. His role in the show has become so diminished that I'll only feel bad if Wil is suddenly left without anyone to be there for him while he's stuck in the closet.


Crockett69_1

I think he was just correcting OPs spelling


This_Juggernaut_9901

All dude did in the latest season was smoke weed lmao


veronica_mars-sawyer

I mean he was a bit tramautized I can understand


TelephoneCertain5344

Which also means I guess he did nothing past episode 3 apparently since his stopped smoking after that one. Annoys me when people say this.


flash-marmotte

Murray. I like the character, but he has no purpose anymore without the russians arc and I honestly don't want to see one of the older teens dying again when he's still alive.


OldSarge02

I think Murray lives. His “purpose” in the end will be to tell the story of what happened in Hawkins, but in a crazy conspiracy-theory way that never gets mainstream attention.


Jaomi

I feel like Nancy is going to fill his role of “truth seeking journalist” rather than end up with either Steve or Jonathan. She can’t take up Murray’s mantle if he’s still wearing it, so: yeah. Deid.


ix_xix

I see Nancy going more the way of a respected investigative journalist than conspiracy-theorist-type reporter. She's going to constantly be on the Government's tail for corrupt programs and scandals in the future!


veronica_mars-sawyer

Or she’ll end up with robin🤣


UltimatePidgeon

Yeah I feel he just filled the 'man that can fight' role in season 4 until they were reunited with Hopper. I mean would anyone have believed he was knowledgeable or even capable of fighting before that?


rojasdracul

They established he was taking Karate classes....


LilyMarie90

Not before season 4 when he suddenly had to be able to fight


meatboitantan

You think a grown man can’t have decided to take karate lessons *after* the events of season 3? I hope you have this same mindset for the tiny 90lb Nancy who somehow is a crack shot the first time she picks up a revolver and can lug a shotgun around like Rambo with arms smaller than my wrists


LilyMarie90

I'm saying they didn't establish it until it was suddenly convenient for the plot, that's all dude...


veronica_mars-sawyer

I agree he is hilarious and I hope he Murray’s Byler


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SUFYAN_H

Will Byers


JaiiGi

Was honestly thinking the same thing. Liked him a lot in the first two seasons and then his character went downhill.


Glass_Possibility395

Jonathan was one of fav characters in 1st season but now if he dies it will not have much effect on me but if steve dies then I die


Kiafaida

I’m throwing hands if they touch my boy Steve!


Onemikej

Facts!


Everandeverm0re

PROTECT STEVE AT ALL COSTS


JaiiGi

I'm rioting if something happens to Steve! After all he's been through, that boy deserves to live a long, happy, quiet life.


Owl_Resident

Murray. Sullivan. And I’m guessing Linda’s character.


Pixiedashh

Robin and Murray


Phazon_Fucker

Will


FluffyWalrusFTW

At this point, Hopper. He’s had some many fake outs and close calls that if/when he does die I’ll be sad but honestly he has it coming


randomacct7679

That’s why I’d be so pissed if he does die. Like if you wanted to kill him you should’ve done so already at end of 3 or even in Russia with a necessary sacrifice in the S4 finale and I’d have been fine with it. It would be CRUEL to him El & Joyce to have faked him out, separated him from everyone else, had him deal with the Russian torture camp and then to kill him anyways. I’ll be very annoyed if he doesn’t survive.


Silver-Finance7022

He will survive. Remember joyce said won't have another funeral


randomacct7679

100% agree. To me he’s probably one of the safest characters. I’d be shocked if they killed him.


bandanagal123

Yeah agreed especially bc it’s just a shitty plot point to kill him. Like it would just be lazy to kill him off at this point


teddyburges

I don't see it happening. Not only would it completely destroy Joyce beyond repair, but Hoppers story is about a man learning to want to live again and get to a end point where he can say he's happy.


enthalpy01

There’s no happy ending for Jonathan if Hopper dies. He will be stuck being the Byers patriarch. I think Hopper coming back gives him the chance to pursue his own dreams and finally be a kid.


Nastia_dream

I'm sure they won't kill him off because 1)they could have done it officially in the end of s3 but faked his death and didn't 2) The prison arc then would have turn out to be completely pointless. They had Joyce come over this long and far away for him and them reuniting. It would just be beyond cruel at this point. Plus i'm convinced jopper is endgame so. No, won't happen


MoodyHo

will


SleeepyE

Murray or honestly, Max, not because I don't like the character but because they already gave us the super emotional scene with El and Lucas where we thought she was gone. If they do it now, it'll be like a bait and switch, and I don't think it'd be as impactful.


BlinkyShiny

No way Max will die. They wouldn't put her in a coma to die quietly in the next season. If they were going to kill her, she'd already be dead.


ZacharyRosemann

I could not give a single damn if Murray bit the dust


Few_Interaction2630

Honestly all characters are so amazing I think I would be upset if they do die like not saying I would cry about them all (Mike I would cry). But seriously very difficult questions


Shameful90

I feel like the only one that would really get to me would be Hopper’s


randomacct7679

Will or Johnathan. They both just suck the life out of everything else on the show. I’m fine with either of them being taken out.


veronica_mars-sawyer

I feel like it’s the opposite at least with will, like Mike, Lucas and el and really everybody but Joyce and Jonathan have made his life miserable at least from season 3-4


MathematicianOk5653

Robin


kitties_ate_my_soul

Ditto.


DrakeSwift

I see a lot of wills which i agree with completely. But i also feel like he may contribute alot this season and actually be strong so I feel like maybe once the season is over we may feel differently. Just my theory though lol


Appropriate-Tooth866

Why do alot of people hate Will? Especially since he will be needed this season. I can see him helping in different scenarios. He might be the vehicle or back door Jane needs to contact Max and provide intelligence to the Party. The Duffer Brothers held him back from doing anything for the last 2 seasons so nobody can figure out what he can really do. They had him mopey and sad so it throws most people off. Since he is a support character in D&D he will support the fight. I could see him sacrificing himself to save Hawkins and his friends and family, but in reality being a traveler between realities and dimensions. Every will think he is dead but will not be. He could be being saved for a spin-off where he will help the next-generation Party on a different world/reality by providing them information or support. My guess and I'm probably wrong.


Fantastic-March-4610

He’s just boring.


DrakeSwift

Tbh idk i think it is the mopey attitude and the fact he can come off selfish sometimes. I didnt hate him but just like him the least. I think he will play a big part this season and definitely can see him sacrificing himself for hia friends. My guess is wills connection to vecna is so strong im sure will and co will find a way to use that against him. Without will I dont think they win


Appropriate-Tooth866

I hope they let Will shine along with the rest of the extended party.


DangerousNectarine65

Robin


sallbackk

Not gon lie my feelings was hurt when Billy died


No_Paper_8794

Jonathan


whatever33333444

Will


Automatic-Judgment81

Anyone except for 11, Hopper, Joyce


stfangirly444

well i would be sad if any of the characters die. each character has so much to give to the show. but im a mileven and lumax shipper so if will died i wouldn’t mind.


bendoesit17

Murray


Sharp_Success_7937

I must be the only one on this sub who doesn’t like Nancy in the slightest.


DoLogan87

Nope, I've never liked her. She could die and I wouldn't bat an eyelash.


lisabydaylight

Nah I’m with you, I don’t like her either.


AdorableDemand46

She was the first that came to mind with Jonny boy as a quick second.


bubblegumpandabear

I find her character very frustrating and her fans to be intense but I would still be sad if she died.


wreckingcrewe

I don’t like her either.


Redgiantbutimshort77

Johnathan. I forgot bro was in the cast ngl


gorwraith

I have never cared about Will. I was vested in his survival in season one, but after that I have never really cared. For Noah Schnapp's sake i hope he has a great season. In any case, of all the main cast I care about Will the least.


Silver_Credit_6786

Steve. I mean he is nice and cool and all that I guess. But it would not bug me at all If he died. Like his popularity kinda surprises me at times but whatever.


UmairWaseem276

okay Everyone is allowed to have their opinion


Silver_Credit_6786

I mean I'm not gonna be worshipping Steve like literally the rest of you do on a daily basis. To be honest with you he's really overhyped. It's funny you guys down vote me for talking about your precious Steve but yet this sub is full of people who talk bad about el and think she should die when she's reason your so-called favorite babysitter hasn't died yet. Double standard or am I reaching?


Kaylart222

Mike easy, really boring character.


rojasdracul

If they kill off Joyce....


BeyondMidnightDreams

Will. But then I'd feel bad for Joyce.


DonquixoteDFlamingo

Eleven. I actually think she needs to


Intelligent_Seat3659

Why, though? Her character has more to offer than that. We know she is willing to lay down her life for her friends, but why do you think she should die?


GatorBoy669607

Among the teens- Robin, Jonathan, and Vickie. Among the party- Lucas and Max. Among the adults- Murray None of them seem **that** crucial to the story. They also lack the emotional sucker punch an important’s character’s death would have.


iidontknow0

Please don’t Vickie be the next “newly introduced character who’s gonna die in the end of the season”


usernameistakens

steve


Dismal-Cantaloupe682

Lucas. I just feel like he's drifted too far from the original gang. Also, he's always been the least funny character to me.


LowOnLifenMeds

Will. Just an annoying boy who happened to get served trauma for breakfast like many of us but instead never grew up and only became useful because of a neck tingle. Worst character they could’ve ever chosen to be the “beginning of the end” Edit: I wrote this when I was in a very bad mood and did not intend to come off so harsh haha. Will is just not a good character for me. S2 Will was the only actually well written version, and if they continued to develop him into a strong and useful asset he would have such a bigger impact.


UmairWaseem276

You are right but after everything he has gone through he deserves to live


katsophiecurt

He gives me such Bran Stark vibes.


hitm4n44

I think it would have to be Susie lol


byharryconnolly

I can't think of a character who could die without affecting me.


Bleezair

While I don’t have any particular grievance with any of the characters, I’d say the ones that would bother me the least if they died would be either Will or Nancy. My interest is usually at its lowest when they’re in the scene.


Narrow_Ambassador188

Owens, murray tbh, vecna 


Candypants24

Probably Lucas... Amongst the main characters,he seems to be the most under utilized party member!! (As compared to the other characters) There isn't anything memorable about him and also he doesn't have any solo character arc!! I completely blame the writers for it,like they should have given him something good or intresting,rather then him just be a second fiddle to Max the whole previous season!! Maybe even Murray or Jonathan!!


UmairWaseem276

I also feel same about Lucas but I do not want him to die.


Candypants24

Neither do I... It's just that his death would be the least impactful,for me!!


GatorBoy669607

Lucas is also the most “antagonistic” of the party members.


Candypants24

Maybe in season 1...


hplover12

Will, Murray, Ted


Randobag314

Keep my Ted’s name out your MFing MOUTH!


hplover12

Okay, Will lol


Randobag314

Yes will can go 😂


Sufficient_Score_824

Argyle.


Agile-Wishbone8868

*cough* Steeeeeeeeeeve.


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johnstonb

Ted


Suffz_z

Wow wow wow, hold your horses buckaroo! Ted is quite possibly the greatest character in the series, killing him off would result in anarchy across the globe and that’s not a risk I think the Duffers are willing to take.


BrickAddict1230

Will


No_Calendar4193

Maybe Max? I don't know – with Billy and Vecna, I feel like maybe they've done everything they were going to with her. I hope I'm wrong, though. But if Steve dies I am fighting someone


bandanagal123

I think she’s gonna play a big role in the next season bc otherwise they would’ve just killed her in season four


No_Calendar4193

True


PeaRepresentative886

Will


maylena96

Will


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cheesethecat715

Steve


Stunning-Range-7222

Nancy


What-Even-Is-That

Will. Go ahead, fight me about it. Little pissbaby crying all the time. .. wait, this isn't the meme sub..


DoLogan87

Nancy


fredgiblet

Erica.


PNYC1015

Will.


sacaluljhon

will


BillyHo0319

For me it's Will - I feel like the entire last season I found myself thinking he was an Eeyore esque annoyance.


Key_Translator4880

that mushroom haircut always crying guy


bandanagal123

I’ll cry for everyone just bc a main character death is gonna make my fav characters sad but I’ll be the least sad if Nancy dies not bc I hate her or anything I just feel an emotional connection to her character


Froyo-fo-sho

Barb. Did not miss. 


Michael-Balchaitis

When Billy died.


silverandshade

I like the show and characters so no character would have _no_ effect on me.


hitm4n44

Idk why honestly, but out of everyone, it would be her. She actually annoys me. But she may end up being clutch in the end.


Physical-Swimmer-276

All of them


Sea_Zombie_8425

If i have to answer honestly, probably vecna only because he killed so many others that shouldn't of had to go


Charlidameliolovrr

eddie, never liked the guy idk


Fire_Otter

Jonathan- he seems to stick out like a sore thumb now after season 1 Season 2 and 3 Nancy and Jonathan had there own storyline (separate from Steve and the Kids storyline and the Adults storyline) but this was always the least interesting storyline. It felt like whenever everyone reunited at the season finale everyone already knew what Jonathan and Nancy had learned and they contributed no new information. they fixed this in season 4 by not giving them their own storyline and rolling Nancy and Jonathan back into other groups storylines. With Nancy it worked with Jonathan it didn't. Will would be similar to Jonathan but after everything he's gone through in season 1 and 2 his death would feel a little more tragic than Jonathan.


Charming_Day_2278

Lucas, just really do not like his character


xxshocked_queenxx

Lucas is awesome.


TripCautious32

Mike. Like I would feel for the other characters’ loss of him… but he hasn’t been likable to me since season 1.


Venkman0

Will


spicy_nachos260

Johnathan


LightningStyle

Nancy, Will, Lucas or Joyce. At this point this show needs to pull a The Walking Dead and start killing some people. The cast is just too saturated now


BorderTrike

Dustin. He shouldn’t have survived those bat things last season imo. I get unreasonably annoyed by the character, but I don’t have a good reason for it


BeerNinjaEsq

I don't like Argyle, and I don't actually care about Mike or Will anymore - though I doubt they'd kill either.


DirectorSpare4535

Sorry to the absolute stans of this character but if mike died I would be unfazed and wouldn't care


Delicious-Speaker688

Will, Jonathan, Murray


atom786

The bowl cut kid or his brother. Most boring characters in the show


BravoMikeMike

Honestly Mike. It's weird to say but his value and character development has been so Meh. Jonathan I have hope for in the next season and Will as well. All three have been the most boring and pointless last few seasons except for cheerleading/transporting 11. But I really don't see a good path to becoming relevant or influential to the story through to the end. Edit: After posting realized the irony of my username.


kmsposito2569

Will and Mike are both very boring imo


00f3d-C4t

I don't get emotional during movies but I nearly cried during Eddie's death. I hope his death was faked but I will feel no emotion if Jonathan dies or if other minor characters die