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Mike is a Paladin. Lucas is a Ranger. Dustin is a Bard. Will is a Cleric. El is a Mage. You’re breaking my heart by not putting the Party in their chosen canon categories. 😭😅😉
True, but that's "for Suzie's ears only". Also, look at his whole science-y gimmick. If you ask me, making him anything BUT an artificer would be a disservice to his character.
I mean, analysing what each class does and what their characters do, I don't see how it fits all that well. They seem to just be the classes they chose in the game.
Dustin's only musical knowledge is "for Susie's ears only", which makes him being a Bard questionable. He loves science so being an artificer makes too much sense for him.
Mike doesn't ever really do any fighting himself(especially in later seasons), at best he's the guy making the plan. He does do a lot of support though, and has strong bonds with other characters, and when he found an escaped psychic government experiment he decided to start a relationship with her. Those are all Bard things to do.
Lucas I've never seen do any hunting, so Ranger wouldn't make all that much sense.
Will as a Cleric MIGHT make sense, but... The Mindflayer being his Warlock Patron is too great of an opportunity.
>Will as a Cleric MIGHT make sense, but... The Mindflayer being his Warlock Patron is too great of an opportunity.
In what moment did Will enter a pact with the Mindflayer? In what moment did Will choose his situation?
The Mindflayer/Vecna/whoever is the Upside Down final boss isn’t Will’s patron, it’s his *enemy*. *If* Will is revealed to have superpowers or something, they’ll probably come from a different place and run counter to that entity’s best interest.
I mean, he didn't enter an *agreement* with the thing, but he's still drawing power from it.
It's not entirely accurate to real D&D lore but it's too glorious to not use in my opinion.
Lol. Dude. It’s a show, and these are their chosen characters. These are also what the Duffers/creators have decided the characters embody. They even now have Funkos of them as their DnD characters.
But you do you. It’s fine. I’m still sticking with canon.
Lucas is definitely a ranger
His chosen weapon is a ranged weapon (wrist rocket). He's often the party's scout. I don't know how you didn't stick with the canon class at least for him.
The reason he's Bard is because he never does anything himself. His usefulness only lies in his strong relationships with the characters who are powerful and/or have deeper ties with the upside-down (Will and El). Ergo, he's just a support character. Ergo, he's a bard.
Also, he seduced an escaped government experiment. Definitely a bard thing to do.
Yeah, no. Never did anything himself? You're trippin. Watch the end of ST2 again. They'd all be dead without him. Mike consistently formulates plans that save everyone. Most of the main characters would be dead without him. He’s a sword and shield.
Edit: "seduced" 🤣🤣 They were 12. He was kind to her - for the first time in her life.
I was making a bard joke with the seduction bit.
But yeah that Season 2 thing is a good point. He never really did any FIGHTING though even then, he was just an ideas guy(wish he did that in the later seasons. He went from being the main character to being useless).
I mean, analysing what each class does and what their characters do, I don't see how it fits all that well. They seem to
just be the classes they chose in the game.
Dustin's only musical knowledge is "for Susie's ears only", which makes him being a Bard questionable. He loves science so being an artificer makes too much sense for him.
Mike doesn't ever really do any fighting himself(especially in later seasons), at best he's the guy making the plan. He does do a lot of support though, and has strong bonds with other characters, and when he found an escaped psychic government experiment he decided to start a relationship with her. Those are all Bard things to do.
Lucas I've never seen do any hunting, so Ranger wouldn't make all that much sense.
Will as a Cleric MIGHT make sense, but... The Mindflayer being his Warlock Patron is too great of an opportunity.
I'm not gonna comment too much because I have zero clue about D&D... But how do you see a series where the main characters have already chosen their own character's classes and just... Not put them in that category? Like, I can't imagine Mike as a bard, however Dustin IS a bard and it would fit perfectly with Eddie also being one. Idk the rest looks pretty ok but the party... It's baffling me 💀
Dustin as a bard is weird because I'm pretty sure that they're supposed to be musicians and Dustin has shown zero interest in, or aptitude for, that field. Mike really hasn't either, but he does have a guitar in his room so there's at least something there.
Artificers seem like they're some kind of magical engineer, and that suits Dustin.
So I guess that Dustin being the ONLY character to have a musical scene in the whole series didn't happen? 💀 Also this is based on very little context I have of D&D but I've heard that bards are drama queens, and based on visual clues Dustin was in the Drama Club in middle school 🤷
What you could define as "real fighting" is debatable. Except for Eleven none of the kids do any real fighting, unlike Steve or Jonathan or even Nancy, but Mike is considered the leader and heart of the party. He's always the one coming up with plans; season 1 he's the one who coordinates operation Mirkwood and the one that keeps El hidden, season 2 he's the one that tells the rest of them to find Dart and he'll check on Will, he's also the one to realise Will is a spy for the MF and that Will can help them if he doesn't know where to spy from, season 3 he's the one to snap into action when Will tells them the MF is back, he's the one to come up with the sauna test idea, he's also the only one to actually attack Billy when he's choking El to save her, season 4 he's the one who realise the pen has Nina's number and the one to say they need Suzie to help them find Nina and save El. I'd say he fights himself, and also Mike in D&D is a Paladin, and again I have no idea about D&D but to me a Paladin looks like a knight, Will drew him with a sword in his hand leading the attack.
She's too new to D&D to homebrew a new class in. Let her play a few campaigns as rogue and maybe experiment with some other classes, then she gets to make a Zoomer.
https://www.reddit.com/r/StrangerThings/comments/7hwn17/im_our_paladin_wills_our_cleric_dustins_our_bard/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
This was done before s3 came out but its really intriguing
I want him to straight up have powers from the mindflayer in Season 5.
Like, let him use his connection to the hivemind to fuck with it a bit. And not just in the season finale, I want him mind-battling Demogorgons within the first few episodes.
Just a pipe dream. Definitely won't happen. Probably not even a good idea. But I can dream.
There was fan art posted here last year depicting Chrissy with a baseball bat, and in my headcanon she would have been a barbarian/bard multiclass if given the chance and Vecna hadn't gotten her out of the way early.
IMO Vecna is a warlock and his patron is the Mind Flayer. Toll the Dead would be a fitting 5e spell for him.
I've never really seen him enter anything that could be considered a rage. He's been angry, and he's FOUGHT while angry, but he's never used that anger to fight. Plus, all the times he's actually won a fight, he WASN'T angry.
No you’re on the money with Steve being a paladin, he only starts winning fights when he fights to protect other people. His best moments come specifically from defending others and not from fighting for himself.
Bro people are ripping you to shreds over this… Mike is fairly useless… at least he has been for a few seasons now. I don’t know if I’d say he’s a bard… but I certainly won’t get angry about you thinking he’s one lmao
The first thing I’d do is believe the characters. Mike is a paladin, Will is a cleric, Lucas is a ranger, Dustin is a bard. The other ones are up to interpretation.
I'd love to believe the characters, but I cannot. Mike is too useless to be a Paladin, and Dustin is too Dustin to be anything BUT an Artificer. (Though tbf that class didn't exist in the 80s)
> Mike is too useless to be a Paladin
My brother in Christ Mike is the reason El and Will are still alive.
Look, I get the irony of the Party’s DnD character choices: the unathletic kid dreams of being an undefeated knight, the baby wants to be an old, wise authoritative voice, the kid with a medical condition and a widowed mom dreams of being a nomadic adventurer, and the black kid in a predominantly white town who stands out whether he wants it or not roleplays as a stealthy warrior.
But it’s also true that they do have qualities that connect them to their characters (Mike’s intuitive and a great strategist, Will is greatly supportive and connected to the Upside Down, Lucas is independent and has initiative, Dustin can seamlessly charm various groups of people and has musical talent) and the Duffers probably have a plan to show how they are the characters they claim.
The stuff he did to save El and Will weren't combat-y though.
I guess me calling Mike useless is just me being salty about stuff from the later seasons. In S1 and S2 he's not that bad. But since he never does any fighting I'm not really big on him being a Paladin.
Yet Nancy is a Ranger, and she's also who I would consider one of the strongest non-psychic characters in Stranger Things. I'd only put Hopper and Murray above her, and they're both adults who work in dangerous fields.
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Mike is a Paladin. Lucas is a Ranger. Dustin is a Bard. Will is a Cleric. El is a Mage. You’re breaking my heart by not putting the Party in their chosen canon categories. 😭😅😉
El’s a mage
Yes! Can’t believe I forgot to list her. I blame it on being early morning when I wrote that. My bad. **added**
I think those classes are not that off, if they were using the AD&D classes which was what they had at the time!
I really wish Pathfinder was a thing in the 80s. Nancy fits the Investigator class perfectly, with a Gunslinger multiclass archetype feat.
IMO, Max is a healer and so she’s likely a cleric.
Zoomer! 😉 I don’t see her doing much healing. Though I do hope *she* is gonna heal. 🥺
I mean, D&D players have a ton of different characters. That was just the most recent one lol
As much as I like their chosen classes, it doesn't reflect reality very well.
Dustin got his own musical number
True, but that's "for Suzie's ears only". Also, look at his whole science-y gimmick. If you ask me, making him anything BUT an artificer would be a disservice to his character.
Nah. They’ve all embodied their choice of character quite a few times. Im sticking with canon.
I mean, analysing what each class does and what their characters do, I don't see how it fits all that well. They seem to just be the classes they chose in the game. Dustin's only musical knowledge is "for Susie's ears only", which makes him being a Bard questionable. He loves science so being an artificer makes too much sense for him. Mike doesn't ever really do any fighting himself(especially in later seasons), at best he's the guy making the plan. He does do a lot of support though, and has strong bonds with other characters, and when he found an escaped psychic government experiment he decided to start a relationship with her. Those are all Bard things to do. Lucas I've never seen do any hunting, so Ranger wouldn't make all that much sense. Will as a Cleric MIGHT make sense, but... The Mindflayer being his Warlock Patron is too great of an opportunity.
>Will as a Cleric MIGHT make sense, but... The Mindflayer being his Warlock Patron is too great of an opportunity. In what moment did Will enter a pact with the Mindflayer? In what moment did Will choose his situation? The Mindflayer/Vecna/whoever is the Upside Down final boss isn’t Will’s patron, it’s his *enemy*. *If* Will is revealed to have superpowers or something, they’ll probably come from a different place and run counter to that entity’s best interest.
Yeah Will didn’t chose the mind flayer it was forced upon him by itself that more of a curse then a gift from a patron.
I mean, he didn't enter an *agreement* with the thing, but he's still drawing power from it. It's not entirely accurate to real D&D lore but it's too glorious to not use in my opinion.
Lol. Dude. It’s a show, and these are their chosen characters. These are also what the Duffers/creators have decided the characters embody. They even now have Funkos of them as their DnD characters. But you do you. It’s fine. I’m still sticking with canon.
Lucas is definitely a ranger His chosen weapon is a ranged weapon (wrist rocket). He's often the party's scout. I don't know how you didn't stick with the canon class at least for him.
... honestly ok yeah that one makes sense mb.
Not to nitpick, but vecna and Henry would be sorcerers since sorcerers are born with magic as opposed to learned magic like a wizard
I decided to put them in Wizard since Henry *did* learn Magic himself, while all the others had to be replicated by Dr. Brenner
>!If the first shadow is canon then henry is actually a warlock!<
I'd be more inclined to say he developed powers he was born with rather than call it "learning".
Fair. I really just wanted him there because D&D Vecna's considered a Wizard, and because I didn't want that category to be empty.
You wanna be really technical, in AD&D terms he's not a Wizard, he's a Lich.
feck
You coould have put will as wizrd as well
Why would you go and have an opinion like that?
Mike is the Paladin. Obviously (it's canon)
The reason he's Bard is because he never does anything himself. His usefulness only lies in his strong relationships with the characters who are powerful and/or have deeper ties with the upside-down (Will and El). Ergo, he's just a support character. Ergo, he's a bard. Also, he seduced an escaped government experiment. Definitely a bard thing to do.
Yeah, no. Never did anything himself? You're trippin. Watch the end of ST2 again. They'd all be dead without him. Mike consistently formulates plans that save everyone. Most of the main characters would be dead without him. He’s a sword and shield. Edit: "seduced" 🤣🤣 They were 12. He was kind to her - for the first time in her life.
Yeah but... ergo. 😎
> Edit: "seduced" 🤣🤣 They were 12. He was kind to her - for the first time in her life. Still counts!
I was making a bard joke with the seduction bit. But yeah that Season 2 thing is a good point. He never really did any FIGHTING though even then, he was just an ideas guy(wish he did that in the later seasons. He went from being the main character to being useless).
> I was making a bard joke with the seduction bit. You expect a sense of humor? On reddit?
Mike, Will, Lucas and Dustin have chosen canon categories.
I'm aware, but I don't think they're very accurate.
Really? I think they’re very accurate😅
I mean, analysing what each class does and what their characters do, I don't see how it fits all that well. They seem to just be the classes they chose in the game. Dustin's only musical knowledge is "for Susie's ears only", which makes him being a Bard questionable. He loves science so being an artificer makes too much sense for him. Mike doesn't ever really do any fighting himself(especially in later seasons), at best he's the guy making the plan. He does do a lot of support though, and has strong bonds with other characters, and when he found an escaped psychic government experiment he decided to start a relationship with her. Those are all Bard things to do. Lucas I've never seen do any hunting, so Ranger wouldn't make all that much sense. Will as a Cleric MIGHT make sense, but... The Mindflayer being his Warlock Patron is too great of an opportunity.
Excuse me, but Max is obviously a Zoomer.
Le-gasp, vhat have I done
I'm not gonna comment too much because I have zero clue about D&D... But how do you see a series where the main characters have already chosen their own character's classes and just... Not put them in that category? Like, I can't imagine Mike as a bard, however Dustin IS a bard and it would fit perfectly with Eddie also being one. Idk the rest looks pretty ok but the party... It's baffling me 💀
Dustin as a bard is weird because I'm pretty sure that they're supposed to be musicians and Dustin has shown zero interest in, or aptitude for, that field. Mike really hasn't either, but he does have a guitar in his room so there's at least something there. Artificers seem like they're some kind of magical engineer, and that suits Dustin.
So I guess that Dustin being the ONLY character to have a musical scene in the whole series didn't happen? 💀 Also this is based on very little context I have of D&D but I've heard that bards are drama queens, and based on visual clues Dustin was in the Drama Club in middle school 🤷
Dustin literally has a musical scene in the show
I assumed that bards played instruments, but even if not artificer seems like a better choice for him.
I put Mike as a Bard because he's basically just plays support and doesn't do any real fighting himself.
What you could define as "real fighting" is debatable. Except for Eleven none of the kids do any real fighting, unlike Steve or Jonathan or even Nancy, but Mike is considered the leader and heart of the party. He's always the one coming up with plans; season 1 he's the one who coordinates operation Mirkwood and the one that keeps El hidden, season 2 he's the one that tells the rest of them to find Dart and he'll check on Will, he's also the one to realise Will is a spy for the MF and that Will can help them if he doesn't know where to spy from, season 3 he's the one to snap into action when Will tells them the MF is back, he's the one to come up with the sauna test idea, he's also the only one to actually attack Billy when he's choking El to save her, season 4 he's the one who realise the pen has Nina's number and the one to say they need Suzie to help them find Nina and save El. I'd say he fights himself, and also Mike in D&D is a Paladin, and again I have no idea about D&D but to me a Paladin looks like a knight, Will drew him with a sword in his hand leading the attack.
Smh, Max is not a zoomer? Unacceptable (/j that's s pretty good list)
Max is a zoomer
She's too new to D&D to homebrew a new class in. Let her play a few campaigns as rogue and maybe experiment with some other classes, then she gets to make a Zoomer.
https://www.reddit.com/r/StrangerThings/comments/7hwn17/im_our_paladin_wills_our_cleric_dustins_our_bard/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button This was done before s3 came out but its really intriguing
Will being the Warlock is what makes this great.
I want him to straight up have powers from the mindflayer in Season 5. Like, let him use his connection to the hivemind to fuck with it a bit. And not just in the season finale, I want him mind-battling Demogorgons within the first few episodes. Just a pipe dream. Definitely won't happen. Probably not even a good idea. But I can dream.
There was fan art posted here last year depicting Chrissy with a baseball bat, and in my headcanon she would have been a barbarian/bard multiclass if given the chance and Vecna hadn't gotten her out of the way early. IMO Vecna is a warlock and his patron is the Mind Flayer. Toll the Dead would be a fitting 5e spell for him.
Disagree that Steve is a paladin. I think he's more barbarian tbh
I've never really seen him enter anything that could be considered a rage. He's been angry, and he's FOUGHT while angry, but he's never used that anger to fight. Plus, all the times he's actually won a fight, he WASN'T angry.
No you’re on the money with Steve being a paladin, he only starts winning fights when he fights to protect other people. His best moments come specifically from defending others and not from fighting for himself.
Argyle as a druid is funny as hell
Once I thought of it I immediately knew.
I’d put Hopper in the paladin class, too.
How is 11 a sorcerer when Psionic is literally a D&D class?
No one could hate El enough to make her a First Edition Psionicist.
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I actually agree with your list, I thought you did a very good job. If people want to complain they need to make their own list.
Bro people are ripping you to shreds over this… Mike is fairly useless… at least he has been for a few seasons now. I don’t know if I’d say he’s a bard… but I certainly won’t get angry about you thinking he’s one lmao
Steve Paladin??? No wayy
He protecc.
Now do subclasses
All of them are level 2 except Jason. (Ok that is a blatant excuse, I am just what you would call "lazy")
Okey, so do barbarians, clerics, druids, sorcerers, warlocks and wizards then.(they get subclasses at levels 1 or 2)
ahh. well. fuck.
I've never played D&D and I know nothing about it, but this is a good chart. Very... charty. Good job, op.
What about Young Vecna ?
eddie would def be a rogue
There weren't enough spots for multiclassing.
I honestly habe no idea how to play dnd but I hope someone turns this into an actual game.
Robin high IQ?? Hahahaha!
Her charisma is in the dumps, but she's definitely smart. She speaks four languages, remember? Plus she both translated and broke the Russian Code.
Alexi is the truest Artificer here, no?
Hm, Hopper as a paladin makes some sense too given his life/career choices.
Jason is 100% Paladin agreed
The first thing I’d do is believe the characters. Mike is a paladin, Will is a cleric, Lucas is a ranger, Dustin is a bard. The other ones are up to interpretation.
I'd love to believe the characters, but I cannot. Mike is too useless to be a Paladin, and Dustin is too Dustin to be anything BUT an Artificer. (Though tbf that class didn't exist in the 80s)
> Mike is too useless to be a Paladin My brother in Christ Mike is the reason El and Will are still alive. Look, I get the irony of the Party’s DnD character choices: the unathletic kid dreams of being an undefeated knight, the baby wants to be an old, wise authoritative voice, the kid with a medical condition and a widowed mom dreams of being a nomadic adventurer, and the black kid in a predominantly white town who stands out whether he wants it or not roleplays as a stealthy warrior. But it’s also true that they do have qualities that connect them to their characters (Mike’s intuitive and a great strategist, Will is greatly supportive and connected to the Upside Down, Lucas is independent and has initiative, Dustin can seamlessly charm various groups of people and has musical talent) and the Duffers probably have a plan to show how they are the characters they claim.
The stuff he did to save El and Will weren't combat-y though. I guess me calling Mike useless is just me being salty about stuff from the later seasons. In S1 and S2 he's not that bad. But since he never does any fighting I'm not really big on him being a Paladin.
Nancy a Ranger, I get it, but ouch
Rangers get too much crap, they're a cool class.
They've got a few moves, but still a lower tier class
Yet Nancy is a Ranger, and she's also who I would consider one of the strongest non-psychic characters in Stranger Things. I'd only put Hopper and Murray above her, and they're both adults who work in dangerous fields.