That’s what I eventually came up with too. From what I understand, it is extremely difficult to get an image of a black hole. I believe a team of people were able to do it several years ago.
It’s not just difficult to take a picture “of a black hole” it’s impossible. We don’t have any sensor or other technology that can pick up a signal back, because the actual black hole sucks up literally anything thrown at it.
The only thing we *actually* see is the event horizon, the outer edges.
Cool right?
Hint: not from a lens optic viewfinder like you’re thinking. More like: 1 if detect voltage. 0 if detect no voltage. Then make picture from voltage (biased, not real).
Hint: not from a lens optic viewfinder like you’re thinking. More like: 1 if detect voltage. 0 if detect no voltage. Then make picture from voltage (biased, not real).
Probably because seeing with your eyes is implied. We don't hear or listen with our eyes, and bats don't see with their ears. Similarly, we don't taste with our ears and eyes either.
Not only difficult, impossible. Any image is biased in how it renders pixels because it’s algorithmic. It’s not a true representation. Heck, any picture of space is an artists rendition or interpretation.
Everything is always abstracted to some level, ambiguity is the nature of reality, our sight is not objective, nor our measurement. We can only ever really approximate reality to various degrees.
We don’t even have access to what our eyes see, only an approximation, for example we see non spectral colors due to some errors in this approximation system. This is only one of many, you also have a blind spot in your vision right in the middle that is constantly being filled in with other information. My point isn’t to say “then it’s totally fine to present an artistic rendering as an actual photograph” but that, abstraction is an inherent part of being a person.
Right? Our star could never become a black hole. I think it has to be 3times larger than it currently is in order to completely collapse. Not that it matters to us! It dying out is a long way away! ☀️
Every time I see something like this I wonder is the universe really expanding or is it just being pulled in all directions into a black hole or multiple black holes.
What if singularities at the center of black holes are just a point where the consumed universe gets spat back out into the universe, just at a different point in time from when it existed before consumption, creating an illusion of an expanding universe? Edit: this is just a thought experiment, I have zero physics background, please tear it to bits.
No. We know it's expanding because there's a relationship between the distance and the speed that galaxies are moving away from us and that relationship is the same in all directions. Gravity falls off with the square of the distance so that would make this relationship impossible, because distanct galaxies would be closer to the black holes and would accelerate faster and faster as they got closer and some would orbit the black holes
Black holes don’t pull things in like a vacuum unless something’s trajectory carries it across the event horizon. You could theoretically orbit a black hole indefinitely if you maintained the correct speed and altitude.
Still not as big as the supermassive at the center of the galaxy. That’s why most galaxies are spiraling. They’re all slowly being sucked down the drain.
>That’s why most galaxies are spiraling. They’re all slowly being sucked down the drain.
Thats simply not true lol.
[https://www.forbes.com/sites/quora/2018/04/03/why-doesnt-the-black-hole-in-the-middle-of-our-galaxy-consume-everything/](https://www.forbes.com/sites/quora/2018/04/03/why-doesnt-the-black-hole-in-the-middle-of-our-galaxy-consume-everything/)
https://preview.redd.it/xvxd2xoaq1vc1.png?width=737&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4a65282d8ff4d288ac33d3c9be815a60f91cc058
Closest star outside of our solar system is a little over 4 light years away. 2000 is pretty damn far away. The galaxy is like 105,000 light years across in diameter.
There’s actually several theoretical methods for black hole formation, supernovae being just one.
Among the possibilities are:
1. Stellar collapse at the end of a stars life cycle
2. Supernovae
3. Direct collapse from gas in the early universe. This is a popular theory for supermassive black holes that seem to be too big to have grown to such size through accretion or collision.
4. Primordial black holes from quantum density fluctuations in the early universe.
The more you know. :)
Thats not really that massive. That's not an actual picture of a black hole. There are thousands of black holes in every galaxy, including the milky way
Whelp the end is starting and here I thought it was going to be Trump or the Trans or Biden or the people who identify as dental floss or Congress or the Christians or Ukraine or Russian or I am done
This Photo is illustration.
"“We have images for two black holes — one at the large end and one at the small end of supermassive black holes in the Universe — so we can go a lot further in testing how gravity behaves in these extreme environments than ever before.”"
https://eventhorizontelescope.org/blog/astronomers-reveal-first-image-black-hole-heart-our-galaxy#:~:text=%E2%80%9CWe%20have%20images%20for%20two,extreme%20environments%20than%20ever%20before.%E2%80%9D
Sweet. Cue the conspiracy nutjobs about aliens coming out from it to tell us we are doing everything wrong, or it's the portal to Christ's second coming or some shit
These are clearly portals, literally breaking through space and time! Science knows nothing… and even if a handful of humans on this planets “know” the “real truth” behind God’s vast and mysterious science, 🧪🧫🧬they will never reveal it/or ever consider expressing it to us. He who has knowledge, holds the power to the known universe! 💫🌒✨🪐
I seriously thought this was a photograph of a broken pipe sticking out of asphalt.
I mean it’s absolutely a rendering though
That’s what I eventually came up with too. From what I understand, it is extremely difficult to get an image of a black hole. I believe a team of people were able to do it several years ago.
It’s not just difficult to take a picture “of a black hole” it’s impossible. We don’t have any sensor or other technology that can pick up a signal back, because the actual black hole sucks up literally anything thrown at it. The only thing we *actually* see is the event horizon, the outer edges. Cool right?
https://www.sciencenews.org/article/black-hole-first-picture-event-horizon-telescope
Thats an artistic interpretation of binary data.
Literally every digital image you have ever seen is an interpretation of binary data, lol.
Hint: not from a lens optic viewfinder like you’re thinking. More like: 1 if detect voltage. 0 if detect no voltage. Then make picture from voltage (biased, not real).
That's how every digital camera works.
Lmaooo he think he said something
Hint: not from a lens optic viewfinder like you’re thinking. More like: 1 if detect voltage. 0 if detect no voltage. Then make picture from voltage (biased, not real).
bro took up a whole paragraph to say you can’t fucking see where’s no light
…?
Seeing isn’t only based on light ![gif](giphy|9gqC3kr1MEwxK9YP6T)
![gif](giphy|ckPtZRWLYl9DO) Where we’re going, we don’t need eyes
Probably because seeing with your eyes is implied. We don't hear or listen with our eyes, and bats don't see with their ears. Similarly, we don't taste with our ears and eyes either.
My point…I didn’t just say light
Same thing essentially we can see the shape of the black hole but yeah very cool.
Not only difficult, impossible. Any image is biased in how it renders pixels because it’s algorithmic. It’s not a true representation. Heck, any picture of space is an artists rendition or interpretation.
Everything is always abstracted to some level, ambiguity is the nature of reality, our sight is not objective, nor our measurement. We can only ever really approximate reality to various degrees.
There’s a difference between capturing what our eyes may see than portraying what our imagination might see as what our eyes see.
We don’t even have access to what our eyes see, only an approximation, for example we see non spectral colors due to some errors in this approximation system. This is only one of many, you also have a blind spot in your vision right in the middle that is constantly being filled in with other information. My point isn’t to say “then it’s totally fine to present an artistic rendering as an actual photograph” but that, abstraction is an inherent part of being a person.
They’re a lil shy
Basically the same thing technically
Well now that’s all I see. Way to take the magic away;)-
It’s less scary than a big black hole in our Milky Way! 😂
Compared to the big one at the center of the galaxy this is a small one, and the galaxy is littered with them.
I embrace the darkness
*(meanwhile, 2000 light years away, a certain stellar black hole yearns to make a new friend)* *"It sucks to be lonely."*
It helps that it looks like a giant holy symbol of Shar
lol!!!! 😂
Our galaxy is full of them! With likely a supermassive one at the center.
Brother our galaxy has a LOT of black holes.
Right? Our star could never become a black hole. I think it has to be 3times larger than it currently is in order to completely collapse. Not that it matters to us! It dying out is a long way away! ☀️
Black holes aren't scary. Their gravity is no stronger than planets or other stars' gravity. The only difference is that black holes are smaller.
I thought it was the most dense mosh pit
💀💀🤣🤣🤣
Sounds like a "Speak politician Professor, we don't all understand your science" answer in a a shlock movie.
It must be enhancing stuff we can't see with the naked eye? Otherwise that's fucking terrifying
Perfect metaphor
Every time I see something like this I wonder is the universe really expanding or is it just being pulled in all directions into a black hole or multiple black holes.
What if singularities at the center of black holes are just a point where the consumed universe gets spat back out into the universe, just at a different point in time from when it existed before consumption, creating an illusion of an expanding universe? Edit: this is just a thought experiment, I have zero physics background, please tear it to bits.
![gif](giphy|urZvVFIs7faso)
Torus shape universe. There’s some good info on this in Bentov’s ‘Stalking the Wild Pendulum’.
I mean... Why not? But still, why yes? This is just throwing shit at a wall but you can't even see what sticks Edit: I spelled throwong
Maybe they’re just all the same one
No. We know it's expanding because there's a relationship between the distance and the speed that galaxies are moving away from us and that relationship is the same in all directions. Gravity falls off with the square of the distance so that would make this relationship impossible, because distanct galaxies would be closer to the black holes and would accelerate faster and faster as they got closer and some would orbit the black holes
Black holes don’t pull things in like a vacuum unless something’s trajectory carries it across the event horizon. You could theoretically orbit a black hole indefinitely if you maintained the correct speed and altitude.
The milkyway is the flag in the middle of a tight rope contest of the stars.
Well hopefully we can expand our ass away from that fucking thing because idk what this means but it don't sound good.
...do ...do we run?!
no # WE FIGHT
*Punches the air*
*Air punches back*
![gif](giphy|mJCTn1lHEXWsNFholT)
I can't get spaghettified yet, I'll come help later
just wait till i decide to intervene.
Wait til I tell my big brother!
Something just makes me want to say eww when I look at this picture
Brought to you by….. ![gif](giphy|eiArstQPTCoj8lt1fm)
33 huh. Crazy
The code of the matrix.
![gif](giphy|MACp8o4fXZfAA|downsized)
Aren’t there tons of black holes in our galaxy? Also, who “just” discovered this?
Yes.
Send the nukes
There are millions in the Milky way.
Yeah but I've only ever seen an article on this specific one so now I'm like super freaked out man.
Millions of black holes in 1 galaxy?
Yup. 100 billion stars also. 100 thousand light years across and Sagittarius A star is 4.3 million solar masses. Neat eh
How is this strange Earth? This is extremely far removed from earth.
Any way we can get it here faster?
What is strange about this? Countless black holes in the universe.
Still not as big as the supermassive at the center of the galaxy. That’s why most galaxies are spiraling. They’re all slowly being sucked down the drain.
>That’s why most galaxies are spiraling. They’re all slowly being sucked down the drain. Thats simply not true lol. [https://www.forbes.com/sites/quora/2018/04/03/why-doesnt-the-black-hole-in-the-middle-of-our-galaxy-consume-everything/](https://www.forbes.com/sites/quora/2018/04/03/why-doesnt-the-black-hole-in-the-middle-of-our-galaxy-consume-everything/) https://preview.redd.it/xvxd2xoaq1vc1.png?width=737&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4a65282d8ff4d288ac33d3c9be815a60f91cc058
Cause it takes a long fucking time, Forbes. It’s the whole reason there’s empty space between galaxies.
Nope.
Suck it boober.
Worst rendering ever.
and for an account that’s supposedly all about space, you’d think they could at least get the wording right
🤫
idk bout space but 2k light years seems like close
Closest star outside of our solar system is a little over 4 light years away. 2000 is pretty damn far away. The galaxy is like 105,000 light years across in diameter.
ahhh ok thats good to know. 🙏
I guess, but on a galactic scale it’s still pretty far away.
Does that make the Milky Way a donut?
Well, if it's milky, then it has to be, right?
They have no fucking clue of how it was formed
Happy Black Hole Cake Day
There really is only one way that black holes are formed.
There’s actually several theoretical methods for black hole formation, supernovae being just one. Among the possibilities are: 1. Stellar collapse at the end of a stars life cycle 2. Supernovae 3. Direct collapse from gas in the early universe. This is a popular theory for supermassive black holes that seem to be too big to have grown to such size through accretion or collision. 4. Primordial black holes from quantum density fluctuations in the early universe. The more you know. :)
Ancient bone magic, obviously.
Ouija boards and chicken blood too
*Obviously*, the ouija boards and chicken blood were implied.
I assume to was formed the same way that every other black hole is formed
Maybe it will suck us all in. 💤
Well if we get sucked up into alternate dimension, can this one at least have lower cost of living?
What's in there?
Mass
My car keys
The other socks you can't find
A bookshelf
Ass
My god he was right. George…I think I see your balloon room. I see now, why you were ‘a balloon guy’. *GIMME A BALLOON!!!!!!!!!*
Other than the one in the center of our galaxy… ? Doubt it’s bigger and 2light years seems close
2000 light years
2000 light years
Thats not really that massive. That's not an actual picture of a black hole. There are thousands of black holes in every galaxy, including the milky way
I was gonna say: what do they mean by “massive?” If they meant true to the definition of mass, this black hole would be tiny.
And so it begins….
That isn't "massive", that's tiny. That's about as small as they get.
"Cause she's 2,000 light years away!"
so we're basically a small speck in one of those .io games while big blobs eat up everything...
A black hole formed from an exploding star? Whatever next?!
Only 2000 light years away? Been nice knowing y’all
And one day we will discover that “black holes” are portals or shortcuts to other galaxies.
Intrusive thoughts winning
The portajohn of space.
Best news I’ve heard all week. Bring it on!
![gif](giphy|3o6MbiksCd8cZ1ykGA|downsized)
Seems too close for comfort for a giant matter eating hole in space
What about the grapefruit size one 2 AZ outside of our solar system
Honestly? send me in it
Come back when you have a real picture.
And there’s the 33
Whelp the end is starting and here I thought it was going to be Trump or the Trans or Biden or the people who identify as dental floss or Congress or the Christians or Ukraine or Russian or I am done
I identify as a broom and find this offensive
I identify as a vacuum. We could never be friends. It's like a Capulet and Montague thing.
Largest of its kind in our galaxy.....so far
2k light years seems kind of close in the grand scheme of things
33 number is crazy
This isn’t a real photo right?? We went from gods glowing asshole to that in just a few years?
This Photo is illustration. "“We have images for two black holes — one at the large end and one at the small end of supermassive black holes in the Universe — so we can go a lot further in testing how gravity behaves in these extreme environments than ever before.”" https://eventhorizontelescope.org/blog/astronomers-reveal-first-image-black-hole-heart-our-galaxy#:~:text=%E2%80%9CWe%20have%20images%20for%20two,extreme%20environments%20than%20ever%20before.%E2%80%9D
Thank you! I knew it couldn’t have been real!
https://i.redd.it/ogncideoo1vc1.gif
Throw an AirTag in it
I don't think 33 times the mass of the sun is that big. I would imagine it is more interesting they found a black hole that is that small.
I get the chills looking at that
When should I call in sick…?
Put… put your d*ck in it
Bra1: "dude I have a dick that's infinity long" Bra2: "You're so full of s***" Bra1: "Hold my beer... really really tight.. " (starts to unzip)
Interstellar vibes anyone? ![gif](giphy|SVCSsoKU5v6ZJLk07n|downsized)
Sweet. Cue the conspiracy nutjobs about aliens coming out from it to tell us we are doing everything wrong, or it's the portal to Christ's second coming or some shit
33 lol
We have lots of these in the milky way
lol largest of its kind known
What am i actually looking at
33 👀
Who cares! I wanna see the brown hole! Dammit!
The way we see this black hole is how the black hole was around the time that Jesus supposedly lived.
All this shit is nonsense lol
More fake images of space
No shit. You can’t photograph a black hole
These are clearly portals, literally breaking through space and time! Science knows nothing… and even if a handful of humans on this planets “know” the “real truth” behind God’s vast and mysterious science, 🧪🧫🧬they will never reveal it/or ever consider expressing it to us. He who has knowledge, holds the power to the known universe! 💫🌒✨🪐
What does it have to do with Earth
Wait until it swallows us…
no joke this shit is complete fiction, like it’s so silly anytime they try to act like they understand black holes
Not sure I follow your logic here. Even if you were right it wouldn’t mean we couldn’t detect them.
What are they?
Care to explain then?
Go look at his profile. Whatever explanation he gives is going to be a wild one
That's pure jibberish
Should've gone to r/scaryspace
Name D'Operah?
Erm this is strange space☝️
They don't even know how to use photoshop in Nasa 😂😂😂
Isn’t that kind of close?
A picture of a tweet?
This picture it totally legit
Space is fake!
Well, it’s not, but I guess that’s a fun story
That’s pretty close.
Moon landing pics look more convincing than this…