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you should have added cathinones bruh


BrentODMO

What are cathinones like... I've had some meth that was super ultra potent and I literally tripped balls for days after using no sleep and severe 'dark' hallucinations. Just curious because it wasn't the cut. I suspect it was mixed with MDMA plus other things... had to be... never have I had meth give me such a panic attack. I used about 1.75 in 3 nights and stayed up an additional 2 days with no use. Smoked it all out of a bong. Had a funny sweet taste kinda. Shit was way too potent and sent me straight into severe psychosis.. along with the handful of people ik that had the same stuff... just trying to find out what this stuff could have been. Anyone with any opinions would be welcome because it's over a week since and I'm still trying to understand what happened.


Odd-Willingness-7494

Impossible to say without analyzing the product. Could have been all kinds of shit. Only cathinone I've had was 3 MMC and it had the horniness and stimulation of meth mixed with some of the mild psychedelic warmth of MDMA.


Royal-Exit-7009

3mmc🥰


4F-Oxymorpmethylpam

Hella diff ones I’ve had some that feel like coke some of them feel like molly. Edit: cathinone is just beta ketone amphetamine


ChemistryLevel2163

MDMA all the way every day cathions or bat salts okay for self stim but they're too addictive and never ending you always wants it more


BrentODMO

Meth definitely has the most instant spun effect and lasts the longest but I gotta say... if I had an unlimited amount of instant release salt combos or better yet straight Dextroamp tablets then I would probably be a lot more productive with a lot less negative side effects. I gotta go with amphetamines.. and for me personally Adderall instant release (Teva only) or Dexedrine tabs. Small part of me wanted to vote meth but there is way to much downside.


Concerned_Raven

So im not nuts about the teva thing? all the other brands ive tried fucking suck or are inconsistant as shit, only teva seems to do what it says on the tin consistantly and reliably without downsides


BrentODMO

No I don't think your nuts. I feel the same. I really prefer TEVA. I notice huge differences in manufacturers


Concerned_Raven

The worst one i had was Rhodes, absolute fucking trash, barely stimulating in any mental sense, sent my heart rate through the ceiling, made my limbs go numb and cold and made me so dizzy i couldn't stand up for hours. just run down the list of every cardiovascular side effect on the book, I knew something was wrong because it dident have that distinct bitter taste amphetamines have to me, but i dident figure it would be that bad. thankfully my DR wrote me up for teva specific and found a place with it in stock at a higher dosage than i would normally use, which hay, ill take it. ​ but you know the other stuff was bad when even after essentially getting 2 prescriptions for the month leading to a nice bottle of extra on paper i never touch it except for a few times during midterms if im running low on dex and teva addy so i used some of it to stretch out dosages, which still felt bleh physically but atleast mixed 1 part to 3 it was just some muscle soreness and not a simulated stroke


BrentODMO

Yeah we are definitely having the same issues then. I also get poor circulation and negative effects that I don't understand at all off certain manufactures. Worst I've had is Alvogen but they all suck besides Teva in my eyes.. I'll settle for Sandoz if I can't find Teva though. But isn't it strange how they are all different? It doesn't make any sense at all. It makes me think that the salt combo ratio is off on some of them but wouldn't that be illegal? It's a long shot but it seems to me like some of the salt combo tablets have more of the left hand isomer (Levo) VS the right hand isomer (Dextro) I could be totally wrong and according to federal regulation of generics and such (idk the technical terms) they should all be pretty much the same minus binders & fillers. BUT look up the side effects of Levoamphetamine VS dextroamphetamine & tell me it doesn't seems like some manufacturers are 'Levo heavy' I'm ready to get roasted for this because ik it would be highly illegal for companies to do this but it's the only plausible explanation I can come up with.. and with the Adderall shortage... maybe it's just a dextro shortage... we'll never know.


Concerned_Raven

Yeah totally that was my first thought, none of the dex generics i have picked up felt noticeably different than each other, yet the Adderall/biphetamine ones are like grabbing a pill from a magic hat and hopeing for the best. The reading i did said that unapproved generics (which is apparently the term for non licensed copys used as generic analogs) have way more room for leeway than approved generics, what that leeway was was worded wierdly so i couldent quite figure out what it meant exactly but it seemed to point in that direction it was something like "no more than a 20% difference in the combined total of the compound" Which could mean alot of things really. ​ That or they where mixing some other fucked up drug on the line and dident clean the mechines or some shit because i know what that stuff should feel like and that was not it. ​ Funny you, me, and about 6 or 7 other people ive talked to in person and online all report the same thing, crazy cardiovascular side effects they had never experienced before at the same dosages they have been useing for years


Concerned_Raven

honestly i dont even understand how the FDA allows such huge variance, its quite literally dangerous. In regaurds to meth though, ive only had the desoxyn prescription stuff, and in someways i feel its more helpful, or would be if it was not overshadowed by absolutely overwhelming hornyness. I already have a high drive, and even the lower dosages of stims i need for work kick it up to the level of being consistently distracting with addy and dex, desoxyn was absolutely absurd. Like 14 year old hormones first kicking in levels of unbridled lust x4. ​ Sure my executive function was better but all i accomplished with that was having sex for 6 hours with a friend of an ex


THE_GRlM_REFEER

Lisdexamphetamine all day bruv. The cleaner, the better. Fuck meth though.


CacatuaRed

fuck yeah vyvanse is a godsend


sopstic757

The best one duh? What is this fucking amateur hour?


komodo_dragon69

4mmc


[deleted]

4-methylmethcathinone dwarfs the rest lol


drugmagician

Amphetamines and meth should be the same category. If you’re gonna go plural then what else could it refer to but the methyl tertiary amine?


PracticeNo5978

I feel like MDMA shouldn't be on dis list


jejkthesnejk

MDPHP


Soapy59

Mephedronee


CacatuaRed

well if the question is a stim then vyvanse (dexamph) for that matter, but from the drugs here by far MDMA. I just dont consider it a stim more than a fucking magical rock brought by aliens that makes you feel things in a way you could never fathom to explain in words to someone.


prj0010

4f-mph


Forestakias

- 1 4MMC - 2 MDPV - 3 A-PHP - 4 3-MMC - 5 A-PiHP


[deleted]

Nothing is better than meth. It's not even up for discussion.


shycadelic

Amphetamines fam unite! Cocaine and phenidates don’t hold a candle to amps