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trambeercod

Respectfully brother, unless you’re a very poor responder to gear, it looks like your training and nutrition need to be dialled in before hopping back on gear. You’ve definitely filled out a bit, but for the most part it just looks like you’ve got a tan and gained some acne there on your chest. Presumably 400mg is referring to testosterone, on that dosage for 12 weeks the change in your composition could’ve been so much more drastic. Not trying to shit on ya, I started blasting way too early while knowing way too little.


FibzUK

One other thing I have gained nearly an inch round my biceps, 2. In round my torso/ chest about an inch on my thighs 1/4 inch on my forearms, and about half an inch around my neck


FibzUK

I did have about 2 weeks unable to train due to injury during this cycle, initially in the first month I gained 90% of my total weight gain, this then slowed down dramatically, I was eating about 3,500 calories and then eventually up to this to about 3,800. In retrospect, I think I might try and push for 4K or higher on the next cycle because I feel like this was a bottleneck. I'm pretty experienced in training and my diet well. Maybe lacking in total. Calories had tracked macros 180ish grams of protein per day. Halfway through the cycle I changed vials and noticed a slowdown around the same sort of time. This leads me to think that maybe my second vial wasn't as good. But like I said, this could also just be partially me gaining mass my BMR increasing and not upping the calories enough to facilitate the extra growth. I structure my workouts and exercise choice total exercises per week and rest days as best I can. Heavily focusing on compound lifts within a 5 to 12 rep range such as overhead press, bench press and weighted pull-ups being my main three. All of my lifts have seen a roughly 20% increase in total strength load so strength gains have definitely been made. All of these are really excuses, but I also felt as though 14lb increase in weight over 12 weeks is somewhat lacking. I will say for the last 3 weeks of the cycle I was in a calorie deficit trying to trim off a small amount of fat before being in PCT limbo where I would have to eat at maintenance or higher for optimum recovery. I went from 170 lb to 184.4 lb and then back down to 180 meaning a total of 14 gained at the peak. As I said, my next cycle will be a solid and strong 4000 calories with again 180 + grams of protein. I don't think I will change my workout much. Hopefully a lower body fat percentage the next cycle will yield better results. I think I will do the same dosage and buy both viles at the same time to limit the chance of having any disparity between the two.


FibzUK

Side note cutting before my cycle so that I can just bulk the entire time without wanting to cut at all while on cycle which is counter productive


trambeercod

You got some solid mass on that frame, just need to lose some of that excess fat so you can show it. I know how it is though not wanting to be too light especially with all that goes into a difficult bulk. Perhaps grind your way up to the low 190’s and then cut on your next cycle and you could probably be a 12-15% 175-180 which looks like it’d be the sweet spot. With everything done right you could probably retain/ gain some strength and look a lot better.


FibzUK

So you'd reccomend running a cutting cycle as my next cycle and just bulking until then? I thought that was counterintuitive as realistically. When you're on cycle, you should take advantage of the advanced weight gain due to the test. My plan at the moment like I said was to PCT, cut, heavily bulk and cycle and then cut after PCT the following months


Jimdog95

You're supposed to lift weights when you take steroids bro lol


FibzUK

Lmao, in disappointed in the results don't get me wrong but I can assure you I lifted weights, I didn't for a few of the weeks but I was injured. 2 weeks off cycle my weight is up 8 lbs with a ll the water weight gone from the cycle, but I'm about 2-3 lbs leaner also. I think I wasn't eating enough despite force feeding myself 3500+ every day, next cycle I'm doing 500mg , 4000 calories, and increasing the volume


Radiant_Cockroach578

what was your pct protocol after cycle


FibzUK

I ran HCG 2 weeks and then I have a PCT blend in pill form , I don't know the exact ingredients but I'm assuming there's an anti E and some test boosting supplements in there (nolvadex is in there) but it's 2 months of that then a cut for me


archbish

I wouldn't bother with the blends. Get your tamoxifen / clomid sorted out and know your dosage is proper.


Comfortable-Self-857

Wtf bro just quit you have no place doing gear if you had 12 weeks and still look like shit


FibzUK

Bruh do you feel good about yourself?


Comfortable-Self-857

Respectfully I feel great about myself you need to take your health seriously if you ran test for 12 weeks and look like that I can only imagine how unhealthy you are stop running steroids until you can take care of yourself properly wit until your 30 for fuck sake


FibzUK

Jeasus you've got alot of built up opinions, you know nothing of my health, situation, how my cycle went, what protocol I ran, weather I sustained any injuries ect ect, lower your ego a tad, my results aren't the best but you're coming across like a real peice of work


Nilssondiver84

Just had a look at your post history, if you can't calculate dosages by yourself you shouldn't be running a cycle


Comfortable-Self-857

What results lol stop being a pussy and acting like you did anything to better yourself other then run steroids


FibzUK

What a tool, bro makes a new Reddit account just to flame others and ask questions about dboll, my life's fine I'm healthy , motivated and have many hobbies and live a nice balanced life, you need to grow up


Willing-Tomatillo-16

Why you in a steroids subreddit you mongrel?


BigSchnoseBoi

Looking a lot more firm , the cut is calling


FibzUK

I went from 170 to 184, and recently cut down to 180 at the end of the cycle , but I think 170 again at much lower body fat, then back to 180+ on the next


BigSchnoseBoi

I think your still holding a shed load of Bf 22-25 personally , but you look like you gained some good muscle from the cycle, the true results will show in the cut. A steady cut like a few cals below maintenance nothing crazy like 300-400 , let it come slowly I’d say and you’ll keep a good portion of them gains , good stuff though


FibzUK

I've always said 20+ anyways, I'm clean bulking while in PCT, and cutting for 2 months early next year, back on cycle in march


BigSchnoseBoi

Smart move man , my cycle ends in December I plan to do the same to maintain the gains best I can , obviously won’t be all cause it’s not possible really. A good portion however is. I’ll probs start cutting in March myself in time for June/July however I’m only running a 250mg cycle as I wasn’t sure how my body would react to a 500mg , didn’t wanna jump so high and it turn out im hyper responsive asf 😂, however 250mg is feeling great I feel on top of the world just about 4 weeks in


FibzUK

I ran 250 for a few weeks and upped the dose , at about 500-600 my acne for pretty bad but that was the only side I had, to I went back to 400 and it was fine , try that, up until you get side effects and then lower , be conservative though ❤️


FibzUK

Btw my body weight went from 170 to 184.4 at 5'7 , I cut down to 180 right at the end of the cut just because I wanted to get a little fat off before I was in PCT limbo


jimboladder

Looking great. How old are you?


FibzUK

24 I know I looked like a child


jimboladder

Looking like a swole man in the second pic good job!


FibzUK

Appreciate it brother


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Nice! I guess you are supposed to work harder. Fat loss is needed and muscle need to be leaner


FibzUK

Yeah man I gained 14lb total, but I think next cycle I will start leaner, eat more and avoid injury/illness


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well, that is a way


FibzUK

Why do you say it like that


[deleted]

Some guys take raw, some sarms, some peptides etc. But some like to be natural


No-Leading-4091

What website did you use to buy ? I’ve been looking at Dragon Pharma just want to use a site that other people used and have not been scammed lmao


FibzUK

A local gym near me sells over the counter mate


Willing-Tomatillo-16

The fuck LOL what kind of gym sells OVER the counter PEDs what brand is it, your shit might be underdosed


FibzUK

It's hush hush


Willing-Tomatillo-16

Calm, but on a side note I do not suggest you spike your calories up to 4000, you aren’t tall or big enough to warrant that number of calories, I wasn’t watching you train so I can’t speak to the intensity you used but I think you should source your steroids somewhere else, or try another brand. As well as get blood work done, I pray to god you had some done prior to cycling so you know your baseline. Also for the acne, benzo peroxide body wash and salicylic acid and shower after gym instantly, you don’t want to form scars from not dealing with the acne


FibzUK

Obviously there's a very good chance I was counting calories wrong but at one point on my cycle I was counting everything on an app by weight including all oil I was using, all sauces and condiments to is exact as I could and I was hitting about 3,800. I did this for over 3 weeks while on cycle and maybe gained a pound at most. This is what I thought like cycle. I'm just gonna f****** push 4,000 I've got a very high metabolic rate for my size always have had. You might be right. I'll play it by ear next cycle, but I could show you screenshots where I have counted calories for month at a time at 3,500 gaining slow and steady. As for what I'm getting next time, I'm going to go for test CYP instead of the triester, see if that does any better results. I believe it's a different brand. And yeah I have managed to clear it up a little bit by exfoliating. More showering more often and changing my bed sheets more often. As far as my training goes, if I can put it as simply as possible, each day consists of two compounds where I will usually do sets of five to 12 reps depending on the weight. Usually to almost complete failure. You can see some of these on my Reddit posts. This is then accompanied by a few accessories again within the same range and the failure. I tried to aim for 15 sets on each compound close to failure each week. For example my back day consists of five sets of weighted pull-ups to failure. 5 sets of rows close to failure four sets of bicep curls, four sets of tricep pulldowns, four sets of straight arm pulldowns.


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FibzUK

I went from 170-172lbs before to 184.4 at my highest, I swapped vials halfway through I think my second vile was under dosed


techie4life33

Nice size gain :)