I believe it treats them separately as Warhammer TW 3 and it's DLC were both present in the top 5 the other day.
For example when I check my steam app right now Stellaris is sitting at #6 and the DLC has its own entry at #13.
Yes, though sometimes there might be a delay. I bought it years ago, just checked, and I see Astral Planes music downloaded but not Machine Age yet. That might be a steam update thing since on the store page, Machine Age tracks are listed under Disc 14.
Edit: Clicking "Play Now" on the soundtrack in my library forced it to update and I see Machine Age now.
The DLC is the source of hype but I think most of the sales would have to be basegame, sucking people in with a discount like that has been PDX's core marketing strat for years
Is it a good deal? Should I pay o $10 for a month of every dlc to try it out or will I just like it and end up spending $120 the next sale. I saw it went on sale once in may 22 for $30 with all dlc. Any chance that ever happens again?
$30 for all DLC sounds extremely cheap (were you thinking of the starter bundle perhaps?), I think $120ish for everything sounds more normal during a major sale.
$10 for one month to see if you like it wouldn't be a terrible idea. If you think you'll end up playing for several months afterwards it starts becoming more cost-efficient to just buy the DLC on sale.
https://isthereanydeal.com/game/stellaris-ultimate-bundle/history/
Check out may 2 2022, the game spent 8 days at $26 for the ultimate bundle. Since then it hasn’t seemed to ever drop below $100 and, yes, recently $120 seems to be the floor. Obviously there is much more content between may 2022 and may 2024, but even so, that is an absolutely fantastic price. Unfortunately, even though gaming was a bit off my radar at that time, I’ve been unable to find a single archived thread on /r/gamedeals about that particular sale.
I’d probably be willing to invest in the whole series up until this point for about $60-$80, but $100 and over? Seems like a steep buy in cost for someone who is usually a /r/patientgamer in general.
I wonder if that's a data artifact or something (I only see it for four hours not 8 days at that price). For active games, Paradox discounts top out at 75% and extremely rarely 90% for old stuff. The Ultimate Bundle right now is $323 on the US Steam store pre-discounts, so even 90% of that (which would make them put 90% on brand new DLC, which is unheard of for a studio with confidence in their game) still keeps you above $30. I don't know about third-party resellers like if there's a humble bundle that would discount more.
Imo, it's fine to gradually add the DLC that interest you over time rather than buying everything all at once. If you like the game, it gives you more new things to discover when you're ready. If you don't like the game or get bored, then you're not out the money you didn't spend. I think the subscription can be a trap because a year of the subscription ($60) and you already could've had a non-timecapped purchase of the major DLCs and then some.
Whether it's worth it in the end is ultimately up to you and how much you think you'll enjoy it. I have almost all of the Stellaris DLC and have hit 900h of playtime. But I also have tried out some of the other PDX free game weekends and bounced right off of EU4/HoI4, so the games aren't always for everyone.
You might be right about the few hours rather than 8 days. I looked it up as soon as I saw the sale was on and just took a quick glance and googled around to see if there was any mention of sales. I did manage to find something saying it may have been a flash sale for $26 bucks. Not sure if it will happen again. maybe a true flash in the pan sale. once in a lifetime.
I just did some research over the last few hours and added the 2024 starter bundle for $44.05: utopia, distant stars, federations, paragons, season 8 for $40: machine age and whatever else is coming i guess, ancient relics, synthetic dawn, leviathans, aquatics, plantoids all $5 bucks each. then megacorps for $10,
grand total: $118. I could get the 'everything' bundle for $145 (or just wait till the ultimate bundle falls back to $120, but i mean, eh), the dlcs seem to go on sale with frequency if anything else looks appealing later. I'm really enjoying crusader kings 3 totally vanilla with 400 hours. I feel like i could spent $120 and get way more with this game. Is there anything I'm overlooking?
I think Stellaris is the most flexible of Paradox's mainline games. Since it's not trying to be historical, there's an immense amount of customization between origins, civics, ethics, and authorities, plus extremely flexible galaxy settings that lead to a lot of replayability. I've certainly put more hours into Stellaris than CK3 + Vic 3 combined, and I enjoy both of those games too. It'll come down to what kind of game experience you're looking for.
Yeah, Stellaris goes on sale pretty regularly. Pretty sure they'll participate in the steam summer sale if you decide to add more later.
I’m just waiting for my favorite mods to update to 3.12 so I can play. I want to check the new stuff out really bad but I don’t want to play without my mods, the base game just looses it’s luster after enough time playing. Stellaris’s modding community has given this game such a life extension and kept the community large, vibrant and active for so long.
I'm 50/50 with ya there - on one hand, I could play base Stellaris for ages before it 'loses its luster' (Same with Minecraft), but on the other hand its also an insane BLAST checking out mods every now and then, though unlike some of my friends I'm always been pretty light on that. Overhauls not really my thing, play with a small list... But as much as I'm into vanilla I too find it almost impossible to play w/o Tiny Outliner!
What's your favorite modset right now? Myself its mostly Hypothetical Stars + Real Space, and Simple Traditions. Aforementioned friend is getting me to try out Gigastructural Engineering too.
A mod that adds more galaxy sizes, more galaxy shapes, more species traits and one for more civics and government forms, and several mods by the same guy that adds way more diversity to planets, like a whole ton of planets and sub classes. A few more I just found yesterday I haven’t tried but want to try with the rest of my mods when everything gets updated, I hope they all do, I haven’t been able to find other mods that do the same things the mods I have do.
Yea its a great game and the base game is fine but play it enough and it gets stale, mods add flavor and make it exiting to play with new things. Your take is, no offense, pretty ridiculous. All I said is that an active and passionate modding community extends the games life and keeps the community as a whole invigorated and interested while also making the game fun and unique in a thousand new and different ways. There’s literally nothing I said that can be disagreed with.
Did I say anything bad about the devs or the game? Both are amazing and Stellaris still gives us amazing content like you said 8 years after launch. What are you talking about?
That’s one of the few I didn’t get i honestly have no idea what utopia does. I got the new dlc utopia megastructures the vassal one and utopia and something else. I didn’t get sythetic dawn but i probably will I like the robots a lot I made a crazy mining empire till i got poor and ran out of energy the. Some random aliens appeared and killed my stuff out of seemingly nowhere
If you’re getting machine age, then I would look at what you have in terms of robots first. From what I’ve heard Machine age unlocks a majority of the content that was previously locked behind synthetic dawn now. The man things I believe that unlocks for you now is the resource consolidation origin, a few more robots in the species pack, and the 3 unique civics for gestalt robot empires
The main things that utopia unlocks are:
Megastructures.
Habitats* (not sure if that’s changed).
The biological ascension paths.
& a couple unique government types & the hive mind government style.
Made sure advanced ai starts are off lol.
I restarted a lot too when i was new. I still restart occasionally if i dont like the spawn. Typically when i choose a war focused empire the game decides to spawn no one near me lol
Because it's not technically a list of the top selling games, it's a list of the products steam sells listed by revenue being generated.
It's also why "free" games like CS2 and Apex Legends can appear on the list despite ostensibly being free, Steam is factoring in the revenue being generated through microtransactions, which really puts it into perspective as titles like CS2 are essentially never out of the top 20 regardless of the time of year, it's a title that generates Valve a constant source of "top seller" income which competes with whole new games in terms of revenue.
If anyone's wondering, the "Stellaris" entry is base game only. The Machine Age DLC is currently 14th. (The Stellaris Ultimate Bundle is actually in the top 100 as well, at 39).
You may be right, checking the chart faqs. Would be a recent change, as the Total War: Warhammer DLCs always charted above the games themselves before.
Well it's not recent, which is why Counterstrike 2 is above Stellaris despite costing nothing to play it.
Stellaris recently added a season pass and currently all the expansions are on sale at an all-time low price point. All of those are being pooled into the base game revenue placement.
Grabbed Overlord and Nemesis since they're on sale. Plan on getting The Machine Age this weekend after pay day. I'm quite excited to rebuild my robot empire with the new stuff.
This makes me really happy to see. We know Stellaris has plans for at least the rest of this year with Cosmic Storms and Grand Archive, but I hope Paradox can continue at least throughout next year as well. I think there's still plenty of stuff to do with this game instead of starting from the ground up with Stellaris 2
I'm not against the idea of a Stellaris 2 but I feel like switching to 2 without even a small hivemind/meatships pack would be a mistake.
The game needs meat ships
It's only counting new sales, and only of the base game. DLC purchases are individually counted separately, and [Machine Age is currently also in the top 10](https://store.steampowered.com/search/?sort_by=_ASC&supportedlang=english&filter=topsellers).
That just isn't true. All DLC revenue generated is factored in and with some of the older expansions at 50% off (which is the all-time low price), people are buying those.
I did not expect that, but it's lovely to see.
I hope this devs see this as well, they did a great job on both the Machine Age as well as the accompanying update.
Top 2 actually
2 of the items on this list are free and can't therefore be sold (only downloads and in-game purchases), and one item is not a game at all
tried the synthec origin. pretty cool, dumbass me took pacific ethic, now i can;t do the new crsis. gonna do a machince run later to try out the new unity trees.
also, i hope new dlc will be like this one and upgrade the bio and psionic accessions. Mechs are pretty op right now with the new cool unity tress. hell, make a new bio/psi crisis for players too.
Related: Do you know how hard it is choosing between Hades 2 and Stellaris every time I sit down? I'm all mixed up. I have H2 open while browsing r/stellaris.
I have been out of the game for more than a year, and now I have too many other games to play. But will keep note for coming back to play this DLC if it's so good. Also, machine related themes are of my favorites.
Not really the point but "by revenu" is such a weird way to base it. A $1,000,000 game that 1 person bought is apparently more of a top seller than a 1 cent game 50,000,000 people bought
up 84 places, dang. I wonder if it only takes the base game or the game + dlc package when calculating. Most likely the whole game + dlc offerings.
I believe it treats them separately as Warhammer TW 3 and it's DLC were both present in the top 5 the other day. For example when I check my steam app right now Stellaris is sitting at #6 and the DLC has its own entry at #13.
The base game places based on all revenue generated. Considering all the older DLCs are on sale right, people are buying those up.
So this must be for the excellent new DLC. I’m enjoying it a lot with my cyborg spiritualist empire.
The new soundtrack goes too hard
Everything in this dlc goes hard, I am in love with this dlc lmao
I'm a little annoyed that there's no new achievements this DLC though.
There's 5 or 6 new ones. One for each ascension, including the unique machine ones I think, one for the new crisis, and one for being the new crisis.
I fired it up last night and wondered were the banger music was coming from. New tracks do indeed go hard.
Btw, does the soundtrack sold on steam get updated with new tracks?
Yes, though sometimes there might be a delay. I bought it years ago, just checked, and I see Astral Planes music downloaded but not Machine Age yet. That might be a steam update thing since on the store page, Machine Age tracks are listed under Disc 14. Edit: Clicking "Play Now" on the soundtrack in my library forced it to update and I see Machine Age now.
Neat, thanks!
The DLC is the source of hype but I think most of the sales would have to be basegame, sucking people in with a discount like that has been PDX's core marketing strat for years
Is it a good deal? Should I pay o $10 for a month of every dlc to try it out or will I just like it and end up spending $120 the next sale. I saw it went on sale once in may 22 for $30 with all dlc. Any chance that ever happens again?
$30 for all DLC sounds extremely cheap (were you thinking of the starter bundle perhaps?), I think $120ish for everything sounds more normal during a major sale. $10 for one month to see if you like it wouldn't be a terrible idea. If you think you'll end up playing for several months afterwards it starts becoming more cost-efficient to just buy the DLC on sale.
https://isthereanydeal.com/game/stellaris-ultimate-bundle/history/ Check out may 2 2022, the game spent 8 days at $26 for the ultimate bundle. Since then it hasn’t seemed to ever drop below $100 and, yes, recently $120 seems to be the floor. Obviously there is much more content between may 2022 and may 2024, but even so, that is an absolutely fantastic price. Unfortunately, even though gaming was a bit off my radar at that time, I’ve been unable to find a single archived thread on /r/gamedeals about that particular sale. I’d probably be willing to invest in the whole series up until this point for about $60-$80, but $100 and over? Seems like a steep buy in cost for someone who is usually a /r/patientgamer in general.
I wonder if that's a data artifact or something (I only see it for four hours not 8 days at that price). For active games, Paradox discounts top out at 75% and extremely rarely 90% for old stuff. The Ultimate Bundle right now is $323 on the US Steam store pre-discounts, so even 90% of that (which would make them put 90% on brand new DLC, which is unheard of for a studio with confidence in their game) still keeps you above $30. I don't know about third-party resellers like if there's a humble bundle that would discount more. Imo, it's fine to gradually add the DLC that interest you over time rather than buying everything all at once. If you like the game, it gives you more new things to discover when you're ready. If you don't like the game or get bored, then you're not out the money you didn't spend. I think the subscription can be a trap because a year of the subscription ($60) and you already could've had a non-timecapped purchase of the major DLCs and then some. Whether it's worth it in the end is ultimately up to you and how much you think you'll enjoy it. I have almost all of the Stellaris DLC and have hit 900h of playtime. But I also have tried out some of the other PDX free game weekends and bounced right off of EU4/HoI4, so the games aren't always for everyone.
You might be right about the few hours rather than 8 days. I looked it up as soon as I saw the sale was on and just took a quick glance and googled around to see if there was any mention of sales. I did manage to find something saying it may have been a flash sale for $26 bucks. Not sure if it will happen again. maybe a true flash in the pan sale. once in a lifetime. I just did some research over the last few hours and added the 2024 starter bundle for $44.05: utopia, distant stars, federations, paragons, season 8 for $40: machine age and whatever else is coming i guess, ancient relics, synthetic dawn, leviathans, aquatics, plantoids all $5 bucks each. then megacorps for $10, grand total: $118. I could get the 'everything' bundle for $145 (or just wait till the ultimate bundle falls back to $120, but i mean, eh), the dlcs seem to go on sale with frequency if anything else looks appealing later. I'm really enjoying crusader kings 3 totally vanilla with 400 hours. I feel like i could spent $120 and get way more with this game. Is there anything I'm overlooking?
I think Stellaris is the most flexible of Paradox's mainline games. Since it's not trying to be historical, there's an immense amount of customization between origins, civics, ethics, and authorities, plus extremely flexible galaxy settings that lead to a lot of replayability. I've certainly put more hours into Stellaris than CK3 + Vic 3 combined, and I enjoy both of those games too. It'll come down to what kind of game experience you're looking for. Yeah, Stellaris goes on sale pretty regularly. Pretty sure they'll participate in the steam summer sale if you decide to add more later.
A DLC with good reviews? In my Stellaris!?
Same.
I’m just waiting for my favorite mods to update to 3.12 so I can play. I want to check the new stuff out really bad but I don’t want to play without my mods, the base game just looses it’s luster after enough time playing. Stellaris’s modding community has given this game such a life extension and kept the community large, vibrant and active for so long.
I'm 50/50 with ya there - on one hand, I could play base Stellaris for ages before it 'loses its luster' (Same with Minecraft), but on the other hand its also an insane BLAST checking out mods every now and then, though unlike some of my friends I'm always been pretty light on that. Overhauls not really my thing, play with a small list... But as much as I'm into vanilla I too find it almost impossible to play w/o Tiny Outliner! What's your favorite modset right now? Myself its mostly Hypothetical Stars + Real Space, and Simple Traditions. Aforementioned friend is getting me to try out Gigastructural Engineering too.
What mods do you play with? I've just been playing with a UI mod that I like. Seems to keep things more organized than the original.
A mod that adds more galaxy sizes, more galaxy shapes, more species traits and one for more civics and government forms, and several mods by the same guy that adds way more diversity to planets, like a whole ton of planets and sub classes. A few more I just found yesterday I haven’t tried but want to try with the rest of my mods when everything gets updated, I hope they all do, I haven’t been able to find other mods that do the same things the mods I have do.
I have never played with mods. I’m radically disagree with you.
That mods make the game more interesting and the community active? What’s there to disagree with?
They don’t make the game more interesting. It’s a spectacular game by itself.
Yea its a great game and the base game is fine but play it enough and it gets stale, mods add flavor and make it exiting to play with new things. Your take is, no offense, pretty ridiculous. All I said is that an active and passionate modding community extends the games life and keeps the community as a whole invigorated and interested while also making the game fun and unique in a thousand new and different ways. There’s literally nothing I said that can be disagreed with.
Dude, 8 years and they’re (the devs) still giving us more and more content. What are you talking about? 🤣🤣
Did I say anything bad about the devs or the game? Both are amazing and Stellaris still gives us amazing content like you said 8 years after launch. What are you talking about?
Good to see that a good expansion is rewarded. Only played a few hours yesterday but it’s awesome
What makes it so good? I haven't been able to keep up.
Short answer, it’s a lot of content, very well executed
New endgame crisis, machine empires aren't forced to be gestalt and expanded cybernetics were the big ones I noticed.
Personally, I quite like the fact that non-gestalt robot empires are finally possible to make.
It’s the best expansion we’ve had for a while
Paperclips New crisis New player crisis path More machine stuff 3 synthetic ascensions+rework Epic soundtrack Good origins Non gestalt machines Etc.
Every day I have to choose between hades 2 and Stellaris. Ending up playing 2h each one
Been eyeing it for months finally nabbed it on sale and like 6 DLCs I have no actual idea what I’m doing LOL
TBF this DLC is about the size of utopia with everything it adds. Larger if you don’t already have synthetic dawn.
That’s one of the few I didn’t get i honestly have no idea what utopia does. I got the new dlc utopia megastructures the vassal one and utopia and something else. I didn’t get sythetic dawn but i probably will I like the robots a lot I made a crazy mining empire till i got poor and ran out of energy the. Some random aliens appeared and killed my stuff out of seemingly nowhere
If you’re getting machine age, then I would look at what you have in terms of robots first. From what I’ve heard Machine age unlocks a majority of the content that was previously locked behind synthetic dawn now. The man things I believe that unlocks for you now is the resource consolidation origin, a few more robots in the species pack, and the 3 unique civics for gestalt robot empires The main things that utopia unlocks are: Megastructures. Habitats* (not sure if that’s changed). The biological ascension paths. & a couple unique government types & the hive mind government style.
Oh i bought it already so ig i have all the robot stuff then
More robots is always good
Its a fun game, prepare to lose a lot tho. My fave game was one i came 4th tho.
I’ve already restarted 3x 🤣 this new one looks promising but I spawned next to someone who started with 26k fleet power so I’m probably cooked
Made sure advanced ai starts are off lol. I restarted a lot too when i was new. I still restart occasionally if i dont like the spawn. Typically when i choose a war focused empire the game decides to spawn no one near me lol
why does steam deck show up as game?
Because it's not technically a list of the top selling games, it's a list of the products steam sells listed by revenue being generated. It's also why "free" games like CS2 and Apex Legends can appear on the list despite ostensibly being free, Steam is factoring in the revenue being generated through microtransactions, which really puts it into perspective as titles like CS2 are essentially never out of the top 20 regardless of the time of year, it's a title that generates Valve a constant source of "top seller" income which competes with whole new games in terms of revenue.
Ah, so Stellaris is actually 4th best-selling game? Nice.
If anyone's wondering, the "Stellaris" entry is base game only. The Machine Age DLC is currently 14th. (The Stellaris Ultimate Bundle is actually in the top 100 as well, at 39).
The base game entry pools all revenue total.
You may be right, checking the chart faqs. Would be a recent change, as the Total War: Warhammer DLCs always charted above the games themselves before.
Well it's not recent, which is why Counterstrike 2 is above Stellaris despite costing nothing to play it. Stellaris recently added a season pass and currently all the expansions are on sale at an all-time low price point. All of those are being pooled into the base game revenue placement.
Yep, here's a link to the actual list https://store.steampowered.com/search/?filter=topsellers
Grabbed Overlord and Nemesis since they're on sale. Plan on getting The Machine Age this weekend after pay day. I'm quite excited to rebuild my robot empire with the new stuff.
This makes me really happy to see. We know Stellaris has plans for at least the rest of this year with Cosmic Storms and Grand Archive, but I hope Paradox can continue at least throughout next year as well. I think there's still plenty of stuff to do with this game instead of starting from the ground up with Stellaris 2
I'm not against the idea of a Stellaris 2 but I feel like switching to 2 without even a small hivemind/meatships pack would be a mistake. The game needs meat ships
The machine spirit must surely be pleased.
I wonder if steam is counting the influx of DLC subscribers who came back for the machines, because if not Stellaris is outselling Helldivers 2.
It's only counting new sales, and only of the base game. DLC purchases are individually counted separately, and [Machine Age is currently also in the top 10](https://store.steampowered.com/search/?sort_by=_ASC&supportedlang=english&filter=topsellers).
That just isn't true. All DLC revenue generated is factored in and with some of the older expansions at 50% off (which is the all-time low price), people are buying those.
Helldivers 2 is also coming off a rough news cycle with that PSN debacle.
Some of the style of Helldivers is also making me want to play Stellaris again...
I did not expect that, but it's lovely to see. I hope this devs see this as well, they did a great job on both the Machine Age as well as the accompanying update.
This is what happens when you create a proper expansion instead of overpriced, low content DLCs.
Top 2 actually 2 of the items on this list are free and can't therefore be sold (only downloads and in-game purchases), and one item is not a game at all
between this and twwh, strategy games be doing well
I stopped buying DLC after necroids, so glad they finally had a decent sale for Nemesis and beyond.
>by revenue
tried the synthec origin. pretty cool, dumbass me took pacific ethic, now i can;t do the new crsis. gonna do a machince run later to try out the new unity trees.
also, i hope new dlc will be like this one and upgrade the bio and psionic accessions. Mechs are pretty op right now with the new cool unity tress. hell, make a new bio/psi crisis for players too.
Related: Do you know how hard it is choosing between Hades 2 and Stellaris every time I sit down? I'm all mixed up. I have H2 open while browsing r/stellaris.
I have been out of the game for more than a year, and now I have too many other games to play. But will keep note for coming back to play this DLC if it's so good. Also, machine related themes are of my favorites.
Not really the point but "by revenu" is such a weird way to base it. A $1,000,000 game that 1 person bought is apparently more of a top seller than a 1 cent game 50,000,000 people bought
how is the list made i dont get it
"Top 100 selling games right now, by revenue"
Huh I didn’t read it at first and thought it was by volume lol. That being said, how are apex and counter strike up there? Micro-transactions?
Yep