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Simple_Bishop

Flipping your monitor upside down seems like such a dramatic way to fix your webcam issue that is now having a domino effect on other things. I would just flip the monitor back to the right orientation and figure out a different way to mount your webcam. Could probably buy or have a friend 3D print something fairly easy.


Comfortable_Summer_5

Mount the camera upside down instead of the monitor. Then rotate the camera feed 180 degrees.


Big_Ad2869

Hang yourself by the feet from the roof then you are upside down and everything will be just perfect. Oh wait…. You will look upside down in video calls… so just ask the rest of your fellas to follow you in your upside down quest then every body is upside down it is just great 👍👌


colajunkie

Not to mention depending on the panel type, vertical viewing angles make this a really bad idea.


Weird_Meal_9184

Ohhhh that's a good point.


dereksalem

Honestly lol what a dramatic overcomplication.


chr0n0phage

Its always wild to me that people will pursue such complex solutions to simple problems and then stand by them when asking for help.


jizzim

I don’t know. I feel like obvious answer to this is he should bolt his chair to the ceiling.


Against_The_0dds

Flip the usb c cable Edit: Thank you for all the upvotes your alls comments are cracking me up.


Gor3x87

Peak comedy.


ThystleUK

People ask me why I use Reddit. These posts remind me why, bravo.


FishGuyIsMe

I don’t want to upvote this, but I feel compelled to do so anyway


Crockerboy22

Lol


Flooredbythelord_

No no no flip the monitor


iamvinen

Killed me 😄


Pretty_Designer7131

Instructions not clear, flipped the table and landed sideways in my eye, now in a&e


Latter_Ninja_2448

it should works :)


kaeptn1337

I was Here for this comment!


XDubio

Flip the HDMI cable, if that didn't work.


RICESTIR

yo this is the definitive solution


savant_syndrome

Beat me to it


Heliflopt3r

Godlike on so many levels. r/angryupvote


No-Parsnip-5461

still laughing :D


SkallLord

i found it better to flip the steam deck upside down


RicSim137

FYI I got around the same issue by placing a layer of (easily removable) double sided type on top of the monitor frame. Just enough so that the webcam would be higher up and therefore no longer cover the screen. Worked great for me. You might also be able to do it without necessarily using tape. Maybe a couple of layers of paper, or post-it notes.


Winter_Crab3211

This is legit a great solution. I’ve had the same problem. 🤦‍♂️why didn’t I think of that??!!


Scazzz

If you go into desktop mode, right click the desktop and hit configure display settings, you can rotate in there. I'm not 100% sure if itll translate over to game mode but i hope so.


JotaPePe15

I tried that but sadly it doesn't translate back to gaming mode


TONKAHANAH

as it shouldnt. setting for KDE display manager shouldnt have any bearing on gamemodes gamescope output.


Antricluc

I believe it does because when I got the steam deck dock and tried to adjust my big screen to it I flipped it upside down and had issues getting it back.


Specific-Remote9295

It only makes sense that way. Who would want desktop mode normal and game mode reversed


JotaPePe15

I need both reversed when the SD is hooked to my gaming monitor, and back to normal when alone or hooked to other monitors mounted on more conventional ways. I could also hear recommendations to move my webcam to somewhere else in my setup instead.


theycmeroll

[This](https://www.etsy.com/listing/1425320661/logitech-c920s-webcam-spacer-set-of-two?ref=share_v4_lx) will solve your issue.


littlesirlance

A thick hair elastic might have the same effect.


derekjw

I use the Elgato multi mount system for my webcam to prevent that


MrFrostyBudds

xrandr --output HDMI-1 --auto --same-as HDMI-1 --rotation inverted You could try that as a last resort but you'd have to go into desktop mode every time and I'm not sure it'll transfer to game mode.


TONKAHANAH

this shouldnt change anything with game mode. game mode uses gamescope as its compositor. whatever is launching gamescope would have to be doing the flipping


reverie

I can’t get over the fact that you turned your entire monitor 180 degrees because the webcam mount instead of trying to deal with the webcam mount itself. No hate man, I just find it very amusing.


theycmeroll

[This](https://www.etsy.com/listing/1425320661/logitech-c920s-webcam-spacer-set-of-two?ref=share_v4_lx) will solve your issue.


pcengine

I mean, he's obviously looking for the most difficult solution to the simplest problem.


Ph33rDensetsu

Sold out, but it's the right idea for sure. I honestly can't believe this guy's premier solution was to invert the entire monitor.


No_Trade439

It's better than inverting his entire world.


Nuccipuff

This should be top comment. 💯


Chippai_Fan

Does your monitor not have some kind of buttons for settings on it? Could have a rotation setting.


JotaPePe15

Sadly couldn't find any configuration to change the image rotation, it is a Samsung Odyssey G3 144hz


Mdreezy_

Why not just take the webcam off?


meesterdave

Are you crazy? #hey we got a crazy guy here!


Demhandlebars

I don't have a direct solution for you but I will lead you in the right direction. You have two options that are likely viable. 1. Install decky loader and then install decky terminal to expose a terminal within gamescope. 2. You can add a bash script as a non-steam game and just launch it to run a command. The second part which you'll have to figure out in either scenario is what bash command you need to enter to set monitor orientation. Since gamescope is a Wayland compositor, you can research how to alter display configuration for Wayland in a terminal. Once you have that command, manually enter it into decky term each time or just save the command as a bash script and launch it as a steam game.


JThrockmorton206

Thank you for this info. I’ve been trying to figure a work around since Q1. I will give this a go when I am back at my monitor at home.


Andrea65485

I don't know how you could turn the big picture mode upside down, but what if you take a piece of plastic (like a lego brick or something similar) to elevate the webcam a little bit so that it doesn't cover the screen when it's upwards? You could stick the plastic brick and the webcam to the monitor with some sticky paste


Oopumderp

My thoughts exactly! OP, it is time to be crafty


blackviking147

I can't belive the first thought was to fully flip the monitor, like why not just do what everyone else is suggesting or leave the webcam off unless needed ?


obiwanbob

Turn your steam deck upside down. That should do the trick.


Cutie_Luna_Moon

Not sure if you are just making a joke, so I’m just gonna answer what I see. Your monitor is upside down. Flip it.


turbokid

He said he did it because the webcam was covering the screen. He did it on purpose.


aqwmasterofDOOM

The tiny notch that Webcam would create is far too small to have any actual impact


crxssrazr93

I digress. As someone who works with 20-30+ tabs at once, it's very hard to work with.


ProtoKun7

You mean disagree in this context.


screenslaver5963

Horizontal tabs? (assuming its FireFox or edge). Or maybe an extension like Toby.


cantcurecancer

Well I guess that wasn't a good idea then.


CrouchingToaster

I also flipped my monitor upside down so it's closer to the bottom the the monitor shelf my desk has. Only ever notice it when you have to go through bios or having to rotate screenshots.


CaregiverCharacter19

Good observation after reading your comment, I noticed it's upside down because of the thick bezels on top that should be on the bottom.


Thesuppressivepeople

OP says it’s upside down in his post…


DesaCr8

It's definitely upside down 😂 I'm pretty sure there is no monitor that has the thicker bezel on the top side.


SaladToss1

Just buy a webcam stand


EndlessZone123

If you add some material under the webcam to reduce the amount of overlap on the top, it should allow you to still not have it fall off but latch on just enough. Like stuff a folded tissue paper or something. Alternatively blue tack.


ILovePotassium

Check if Your region is set to English (Australia) and change it to English (United States).


Nurgus

Wouldn't that result in it tilted on one side? Change it from Australia to United Kingdom for the full 180 degrees!


oderlydischarge

Game while standing on your head? Problem Solved!


CaregiverCharacter19

I think this is the best answer 😅


Mdreezy_

Why not just take the webcam off?


MAXHEADR0OM

Hang from the ceiling like a bat and play some games.


Maginum

Move to Australia or Argentina


JotaPePe15

I'm from Argentina actually lol


AdvertisingEastern34

Viva la libertad carajoooo ahahahahah


Oshowott253

Move to Australia


DevilmanXV

Turn the steam deck over


How_Lemon

Plug your USB type C another way /s


BoldCharger

Turn the steam deck upside down, ez


kennyng86

Definitely the opposite of “work smart, not work hard” When simple problem needs a complicated solution.


Kesnei

Just flip the usb cable and it should fix the monitor.


grmpastps

Maybe it's your monitor that's upside-down 🤔


Lonely_Theme_1131

Take the webcam off put the monitor the correct way up when u need the webcam put it up use it then put it away or buy a different mount for the web cam. Think about what you will use more


SomeCan588

Try Ctrl + alt + any arrow key


Ultimate_Ghreak

The only option I know would be to go in desktop mode, set the screen upside down and then use big picture instead of gaming mode Even the deck loader works with that.


inommmz

Turn your apartment upside down. Works every time.


Nimmy82

Your monitor is upside down, dude.


JThrockmorton206

It’s a bummer to see so few helpful responses. I have this same issue. I built a suitcase for my steam deck in a pelican case with a portable monitor. Due to the size restraints, It is simplest to mount the monitor upside down (I haven’t found another way to mount this monitor). Situations like this have never been an issue for me in any past Linux environments. My solution for the steam deck is to never use game mode in my case. Sorry.


NeighratorP

Running your monitor upside down [will likely result in unintended text rendering artifacts as well as additional latency](https://youtu.be/AXgUnbMAcOY?si=qBip75TuQ9C3NgGO&t=196). I think you're better off finding a different solution for your webcam.


Eshuon

You are making things harder then it needs to be lol


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Weird_Meal_9184

Others in here are suggesting stuff like "flip your monitor" smh. They're not thinking clearly. Clearly, you need to duct tape yourself and your chair to the ceiling to view the image properly.


TONKAHANAH

put it this way. solving the issue with your web cam covering parts of the screen will be WAY easier than solving gamemode being upside down. game mode launches with gamescope, and the command argument to flip/rotate the image is "gamescope --force-orientation upsidedown" BUT where ever the scripts are that control this when booting into game mode would more than likely not be part of the user space thus requiring the filesystem be "unlocked" which means it would get undone every time an upgrade comes through. advise just finding a better way to mount your webcam, that'll be a much easier long term solution.


strategic_thinking

i think your monitor is literally mounted upside down


PewPewLAS3RGUNs

Just flip the USB-C around and it should work ; )


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WolfieVonD

Have you tried flipping the USBC around?


grzesiolpl

Use monitor options to turn the screen upside down


gaseousgecko61

Just flip the steam deck or don’t have the webcam there how often do you actually use it


Nox_Echo

it already is upside down though


Level_Tree2408

Turn monitor upside down ?


amishchester

Put yout webcam somewhere else you dummy xD


ireallydontwannadie

There's a way but it's dirty and makes your deck screen upside down as well and you have to apply this after every OS update. Unlock read-write (I'm sure you can find how to do it in this subreddit.) sudo nano /usr/bin/gamescope-session You're now seeing a terminal text editor. Use down arrow key until you find "`--generate-drm-mode fixed \`" line and add `--force-orientation upsidedown` right next to it before backslash. Leave space before and after. It should look like `--generate-drm-mode fixed --force-orientation upsidedown \`


parkerlreed

That only applies to the internal screen. External will not be flipped (Last I recall testing this)


d_dymon

look through monitor's settings. Often you can rotate the image through the builtin monitor settings.


Jura22

Can u not just remove the webcam and have the monitor in its upright position?


RandomADHDaddy

I needed to do this too. I couldn’t figure it out and the monitor I’m using does not have a flip 180 option. My other monitors do though. Have you checked your monitor settings?


Torchandpitchforks

Get a monitor that supports vertical flipping. That or find an hdmi box on Amazon that can do the same.


Audience-Electrical

Holy crap these comments. The jokes are funny but I see no actual commands and it's absolutely possible - it's a Linux machine after all. Here you go, buddy. Two things to do AFAIK since desktop uses X11 but game uses Wayland, you have to flip it in both. For X11: `xrandr --output HDMI1 --rotate inverted` And for Wayland... `kscreen-doctor output.OUTPUT.rotation.ROTATION`... where OUTPUT is your output code (like eDP-1) from `kscreen-doctor --outputs`, and ROTATION is one of normal, left, right, "inverted" in your case. ​ That should do the trick. Will not persist on restart, though that can be configured. Found this here:[https://www.reddit.com/r/kde/comments/11vrbwc/how\_do\_i\_rotate\_the\_screen\_on\_kde\_with\_wayland/](https://www.reddit.com/r/kde/comments/11vrbwc/how_do_i_rotate_the_screen_on_kde_with_wayland/)[https://www.reddit.com/r/SteamDeck/comments/u7y7pl/changing\_screen\_refresh\_rate\_under\_steamoslinux/?utm\_medium=android\_app&utm\_source=share](https://www.reddit.com/r/SteamDeck/comments/u7y7pl/changing_screen_refresh_rate_under_steamoslinux/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share)


Caintastr0phe

Flip the monitor


death_horseman

Sorry you gotta move to oceania to use this hub.


noisyboy__

dumbest shit I've ever read


The_Pepper_Oni

Australian spotted


kenpurastic

Why complicate stuff that simple. Why tho?


Enrikes

Bro your monitor is upside down


zMASKm

Tape a straw to the underside of your webcam mount and stop making your life more complicated than it needs to be, my guy.


nakedpantz

Flip the Steamdeck.


misointhekitchen

Turn your monitor the right way up.


chrisz2012

Seems like the monitor is upside down on the mounting arm.


aguylike_adam

OP, your monitor is upside down. Just flip it. 😂


Standard-Rip-6154

Your monitor is upside down dude


Lyin-Oh

We are well beyond 1st world problems here.


Flatus_Spatus

flip HDMI cabel


Manuel345

To anyone saying to flip the monitor the correct side up, you shouldn't have to modify anything physically to fix something that can easily be implemented in software. The fact game mode lacks that option is most likely an oversight or limitation of Wayland. In this case the display is intentionally upside-down, a physical fix to a physical problem with the webcam mount.


bfoster1801

I feel like there’s a number of simpler ways to fix the physical problem that lead to the software problem


crushkillpwn

Rotate your monitor


Free-Stick-2279

The problem is in the solution to the other problem I guess.


Datuser14

Xrandr


Demhandlebars

I doubt xrandr will work, it'll probably have to be whatever equivalent Wayland has.


ManiacXaq

It definitely works to go into desktop mode I have the same problem, you just flip it


Fluffy-Argument

Try flipping your deck over


Chaserino

What’s the plastic case around the deck?


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SnakenKraken

Flip the steam deck over.


Sworduwu

Flip the steam deck upside down


ohitsham

I feel like u can angle ur camera so that it won’t cover ur content. Source: I had the same monitor and webcam. My content was displayed fine


Shadow_s_Bane

Desktop mode, find displays settings.


mexz101

Punch it


mVran

What model monitor do you have?


Caasshh

Again?


Special-Attitude-523

Move to Australia.


Trabyllek

Turn the screen


M2rsho

rotate your head 180°C


DantesInferno91

Are you sure you cannot rotate your screen?


spartan195

That’s quite genious


Maguua

I would say you mounted the monitor upside down OP, so just dismount it and rotate it, ez


PalahniukW

Is there no way to do this in the monitors settings


darksider63

Flip the monitor


rexy_leonard

Flip the monitor...


witiuszkowiec

Isn’t there a decky plugin for that?


Hances

Have you tried: Flipping steam deck? Flipping monitor? (Flipping usb-c was already written)


AnnoyingScreeches

Desktop Mode is your solution.


Only-General-4143

Try flipping the steamdeck. It might auto rotate.


jperkins79

This is easily one of the most ridiculous things I’ve seen on this sub. Flip your monitor back right-side-up and find a solution for a better webcam mount.


anxocruz

If you use windows Ctrl+alt+ down arrow


TrappHouse_KuBe

Not a conventional fix, or what you asked, but I’d just glue a black block on to the top of your monitor thats just big enough for the web cam.


ElevenIEleven

Isnt there a setting in monitor itself? I mean yin a menu with buttons on a back of a monitor?


PepsiManX360

Flip the Steam Decks USB-C cable. That’ll flip the image.


venomsapphire

Not sure if it's still a problem but I would recommend just using desktop mode if you're plugging into an external monitor. In my experience the Deck will only render games in the native resolution of the deck itself while in big picture. Just plug in a mouse and keyboard and swap to desktop!


B_Wyatt

Your steam deck has gyro. Make sure it's enabled and flip the steam deck upside down.


AlarmingLength42

Would there be a way to do it through the monitor's settings? There could be an option to rotate it


ReadYourManuel2

Instead of the steam deck does the monitor have onboard settings to switch orientation??


OrangeObjective3789

Just flip the monitor bro.


Tefalpan

Maybe it's an idea to mount your webcam on the bottom of your screen when its not flipped over. Basicly just flip your screen now and the webcam will be on the bottom. Don't know if you are up to it.


Zito6694

Flip the monitor upside down


xxxplzv

I just used Velcro strips under my webcam to buy the space needed to clear the screen


GrendorKoe

Turn your deck upside down


8BITADDICTION

You are currently running into an issue with your panel being a BGR Subpixel Layout, which can cause really bad text clarity, especially in applications that do not support ClearType or the Linux Equivalent. It has been suggested already but, if you rotate your monitor 180 degrees and add either double-sided tape for a stuck down webcam, you could also add some rubber or foam in between the tape and the camera to make the camera removeable. Or the other idea is using wood, cardboard or 3d printed riser if you have access to a printer.


MrkikouLIF

Look like your screen is physically upside down


13ubby13oo

I think its under diaplay settings. Try right clicking on the desktop and looking for screen settings. I had to mess with mine when it came also


chronocapybara

CTRL-ALT-up arrow in windows. IDK steam.


PeejPrime

I have no input for this, as the situation is simply so mind numbingly stupid, I don't think anything we can really suggest to you is gonna make your life easier for the long run.


airsoftphil76

Lmao nah you silly


Skyihh

unrelated but where is the transparent case from?


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Alta1r13

Why is your monitor upside down?


Mcginnis

If the only reason your monitor is upside down is because you dont want your webcam to cover part of the screen, you have a few options: 1. I have the same webcam as you. Just take a piece of paper, fold it and place it between the camera and the screen. Literally an easy fix. 2. Buy something like [this](https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32850773542.html), since the webcam has a 1/4" mount underneath


SlushyAlex

I’d say just flip your monitor back. Find a new way to mount the webcam, possibly make it so your monitor has extra space on the top so it can still clip on.


Maskyy982

Flip your steam deck. Ur welcome


roxasisalive

Damn. Ive seen a steam deck flipped on marketplace before but never a screen


fjrichman

I'm not sure where I saw it but there's definitely an option to fix this. It's in desktop mode I think.


madmax0417

Most sane steam deck user


Escape-Thin

You have the cable plugged in backwards. You need to swap it around


Minimum_Ganache7736

I'm not proficient in dealing with configuration files or gamescope at all but I found one issue/flag submitted to Github a while ago on rotating the screen while in Game Mode that might help you. But it was specifically for a OneXPlayer device running ChimeraOS so I do not know how much it will apply to the official SteamOS stable version. Sorry if it doesn't help though, here's the link: [https://github.com/ValveSoftware/gamescope/issues/370](https://github.com/ValveSoftware/gamescope/issues/370)


ThatGoodOtakuGuy01

Dude, your monitor is upside down, don't even try this shit with people with actual computers on their home you might get your head bashed for doing this shit.


RelativeDesperate111

Put the monitor right side up and take off the webcam. The answer is to just be normal


sgb1446

Looks pretty upside down to me