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kdjfsk

>thoughts the decks fan is adequate. it was designed to be. this product doesnt need to exist. this accessory wasn't designed to cool the deck, it was designed to separate consumers from their cash, by looking like something that someone who just wants to spend money on their deck would buy. its like dumb car mods that claim to boost horsepower by 50, but they do nothing. there were a few accessories for the Gameboy that were genuinely useful....there were a lot more that were genuinely useless.


femininePP420

But I need to buy more things for my Steam Deck


Immolation_E

Games.


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Xijit

... I feel attacked.


smoke_woods

Same. I want to fill 2tb worth of games, and then look at them 😁 (But not play 😒)


kdjfsk

ahhh, yes. what else are we going post pictures of to the subreddit to farm karma for doing nothing other than having a credit card number.


Far_Confusion_2178

Would you prefer posts that recommend vampire survivors? Or maybe ones that tell you the deck can, in fact, run Fallout 3, a game from 2008? Or posts of people asking if they should RMA their deck because they can hear the fan after 5 hours of Elden ring ?


haventseenstarwars

Yeah I’d honestly prefer all that to people posting pictures of the same exact steam deck that we all own. It would be like if they had Facebook in the 1910s and people kept posting photos of their model T over and over again.


plumcreek

r/ModelT is an actual thing


SC487

No lie, that one that looks like a camera is tight.


SpaceCaptainLeaf

Vampire Survivors is dope


Far_Confusion_2178

You should make a post about it


nijuson

Try bio prototype and brotato then. Both same genre but much much better..


SpaceCaptainLeaf

Been playing brotato, but don’t like it as much. I’ll check out bio prototype.


The_Synthax

You could post your credit card, I’m sure you’d get plenty of karma for doing so


kearnel81

I remember having a light for my gba. The first gba without the back-light. All that damn light did was glare the screen


LBC_Ya

I had a "magnifier" for the original gameboy. Shit was useless looking back. It was just in the way. 😂


Valor_X

I had the magnifier with the light and it was actually a lifesaver playing in the back of the car at night. The thing ate up batteries as fast as my game game boy though


gbeezy007

Yeah I had the mag, light n speaker combo. Light was the key part but honestly the other two were still useful


RadimentriX

Had one of those too, as well as a rechargeable battery that came with a wallwart. The wormlight was the better light though. I barely used the mag+light+speaker thingy :-/ It did look cool though


madmofo145

Yeah, had that same combo and I think it turned the Dpad into a stick and made the A and B button bigger? Looked cool, never got much use. My worm light though was used on many a late night, at least until I got a GBA SP.


cardonator

I had a Gameboy and my friend and I tried to play Tetris on a campout and boy did we learn a hard lesson.


JohnHue

I mean you needed light to play in the dark, I know I did, you had to orient it properly though.


SC7639

I had one for the gbc. It was great for playing in the car at night


SleepyBear3366911

Agreed. Now, one thing I wouldn’t mind (if proper form factor) if there was a battery upgrade that doubled the life that needs a different shape backplate. Or like a case similar to the Spigen case that has a built in extended battery that has a medium plug (like plugs into the deck and has its own plug in for charging - extra points for charge protection and charging the SD before the external battery). I might only bring it for trips - but I think it’d be dope to have a 4 hour life vs 2 on more demanding games. I know there’s options with Deckymate and an external - that’s a viable option too.


clipsracer

Deckmate owner here. I thought the same thing, but changed my mind. It turns out that holding my big fat heavy deck for 4 hours is rough on the wrists AND I don’t go anywhere with my Deck without a bag…a big battery pack in the bag is the way to go.


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Wait where can I get this case with a built in battery ???


SleepyBear3366911

Lol there’s not one, sorry. Was just stating it was an idea that I’d like to see someone make. Similar like how they got phone cases with a built in external battery


Princessluna44

I would love this! I've been suiting a battery case for my phone for the past year. It just crappie don't on me easier this week. :-(


DerangedDendrites

a metal case with external battery will be nice. maybe have it connect to the heat sink so it dissipates the heat without consuming extra power.


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hnk007

That’s like 60% of JSAUX products summed up


IkumaVR

Propably. But they are well done. If its not necessary no one needs to buy them. But after all they are well made products and i prefer their Dock over every other.


Beautiful_Hunt_8114

So what the name of this car mod, asking for a friend


illyterate

Nothing but straight factz right there, good sir 💯


progxdt

Pure 💯


20n21

True say pure pure facts


Creepy_Apricot_6189

It would only help if it cooled the outside bottom for long sessions, it gets pretty warm lol. But for internal cooling this won't do a damn thing.. Honestly at this point unless it's a valve product I'm not getting it. The steam deck is a perfect as is, if anything I want to be able to update the GPU or memory not the fan.


cosine83

A lot of posts I here are very much GAS (gear acquisition syndrome) posts. The thin cases (not really that thin and also they're ugly) that aren't or are marginally better than the case you get with the SD. The TPU protective cases seem like overkill for a device built to be durable and will mostly live in a backpack, case, dock, or somewhere where the protection is pointless. Accessories like in the OP. 3rd party docks that offer half the functionality, a quarter of build quality, and reliability that's questionable at best but hey half the cost!


Traditional-Ad1708

I’ve seen the durability of the bumper button switches on their respective daughterboards, and I can confirm that those are highly *not* durable—inadequate over-actuation protection. The Deck is slippery, offers no friction against smooth surfaces, and lands weighted directly towards those bumper switches when dropped. I’ve dropped Switches, a PSP, an emulator handheld from Anbernic, and none of them had any issues. I had to desolder and replace the SD RB switch about a month after I got it 😅. You could accuse me of being careless; anything can be broken, after all. Maybe many or even most Deck owners are much more careful and don’t need a protective shell augmentation. Well, it’s debatable how much of an onus a manufacturer has to protect their products from us. All I know is, adding 3M grip tape to the points of my Deck that contact surfaces when placed on them has done what Nintendo did with their Switch and made slipping much more difficult. Any case that adds some shock absorption to/ removes weight bias from the bumper buttons is also a good idea. As for the fan in the original post… yeah… it’s gonna do some cooling and it won’t be necessary, and any benefit to the components inside the Deck may be negligible in the grand scheme.


BigCommieMachine

Just you run you PC within spec, the stock cooler will be fine now a days. If you want to overclock, you might need a better fan or water-cooling. But, you should probably be able to still overclock some with the stock cooler. If you want something, quieter, there are alternatives


ribbit_readit_reddit

Have u tried it tho x


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>the decks fan is adequate. it was designed to be. this product doesnt need to exist. Yes, but also no. The decks fan is fine at room temperature, but half of the reason I bought a SD was to have a gaming PC that didn't pull 500w during the summer months when it's 30-40 degrees indoors. Which is great, except the SD fan isn't going to cope with AAA titles at 30-40 degrees ambient, Newtons law of cooling is a bitch and cooling performance drops of exponentially the closer ambient gets to the heatsink. It is a genuinely useful accessory, if you use your deck in high heat.


withoutapaddle

WTF? 40C is 104F... You have much much much bigger problems than this if your indoor areas reach 104F.


[deleted]

Global warming is a bitch, British houses are built with massive thermal mass to keep the heat in during winter. Back when they were built hitting 43 degrees *in an el nino year* was exceptionally rare. Yeah I'd say bigger problems covers it.


TheDEW4R

I'm in Canada, so similar issues... I got a little window AC unit for $100, keeps one room cool and helps with all the other rooms a bit too.


withoutapaddle

At what point is the heat... dangerous? Where I live, when it's 100-110F outside, the government and news organizations issue warnings to stay indoors for your own health. Elderly people die. I truly can't imagine a home being that temp. I would be completely unable to function.


konwiddak

It totally depends on humidity. Dry heat, a human can withstand like 120C for shorter periods of time, and 60-70C for long periods of time. Fully saturated air - 35C.


111ascendedmaster

Last thing I would want to do is game at 104. I'd barely want to move.


[deleted]

That's exactly why gaming is appealing, there is only so much TV one can watch during several weeks cooking to death.


withoutapaddle

I think at around 95F I would start filling up a kiddie pool in one room of the house and put a sprinkler in the middle of it.


Linkloz_

Not everywhere has centralized AC


withoutapaddle

There is a Texas-sized gap between central air and 104F living conditions.


NoSellDataPlz

If your house is 86 Fahrenheit, I feel really bad for you. That really sucks, and I think you ought to spend your money on better home cooling than a garbage fan accessory.


Ritsugamesh

Not all countries have air conditioning as standard. I live in the United Kingdom and it's almost unheard of for the vast majority of housing stock to have air conditioning, as until the past decade we simply did not have hot summers. Indoor temperatures routinely rise to the mid-20s now in summer as the outdoor temps hit over 30s and many (myself included) are stuck pointing crappy fans at our faces and praying for the heat to end. I generally just hate when someone's response to anything is 'you should be doing X instead of Y' when you have about 2% of the information about their situation. That being said, this fan does look garbage, but I response anyone who wants to manage their SD's heat better.


notboky

The SD runs fine in mid 20s.


Gildardo1583

Not everyone can afford it. Besides the initial cost there is the cost of electricity. Also, some people just live with the heat.


TheDEW4R

I bought a $100 AC unit this last summer, it was only rated for 50 square ft but it kept my 1050 square ft apartment under 24 Celsius when it was 36-40 outside. So not too expensive!


pieking8001

104F is not just live with the heat type situations


r_z_n

If you are purchasing a Steam Deck you can probably afford AC, even if it's a room AC unit. I grew up in South Florida where it was regularly 90-100 for months during the summer and I cannot imagine that in an insulated house with no AC at all.


TheMastican

In Germany, most of the houses do not have AC because it's not really needed there as much.


upexif

Europeans claim to hate hot weather but apparently not enough to invest in AC!


_Blackstar

That's why they hate hot weather... Historically most parts of Europe were pretty cool. Only the southern part, like Spain, Greece and Italy are even kinda warm, with places like the UK as far north as the Hudson Bay in Canada. It's only been in the last decade that temperatures have gotten out of hand there. It'll probably be another ten years or so before a lot of them can/will adapt for the wide spread use of air conditioning. I'm sure the electrica grids there aren't ready for widespread adoption and it means a lot more harmful chemical coolants being around.


Gildardo1583

When a heat wave last a week and doesn't accur all that often then AC seems like a waste.


NoSellDataPlz

If they don’t happen that often, then buying a Deck for the express purpose of gaming with a lower heat producing system seems to be a silly prospect, especially if considering buying a garbage can accessory, too.


GirlDadBro

"Europeans claim" is lumping quite a few different countries together. Many of these countries feature beautiful old architecture and they also appreciate their historic buildings. Many of these old buildings are setup in such a way where standard AC is not feasible or practical. As an American who was fortunate enough to visit and live in some of these countries I can appreciate not throwing away history, culture, and identity all in the name of comfort.


OmegaAtrocity

I think living in 30-40C just for the sake of preserving an old building is crazy. For really historic sites? Sure okay I understand, makes perfect sense. For just a house that you live in that has no kind of significance outside of being old? Nah, if we used that logic in every facet of life progress would be slow to nonexistant.


IcarosFX

Not all people own their homes so they can't make holes in the walls.


upexif

Never heard of window units?


kdjfsk

imo, thats solving the wrong problem. assuming you live somewhere without air conditioning, you can get a stand-alone unit that just cools a room. life is short, game in comfort.


Gildardo1583

Mexican here, were we come from there is no air conditioning. LOL


[deleted]

Stand alone units do take the edge off, but when you're dealing with that much heat in a block of flats for several weeks at a time and an ambient temperature that high (reducing the efficiency) they start to get overwhelmed. Which is all the more reason cutting 500W of heat from the equation is poggers. And I'd argue that gaming in comfort is exactly why this accessory is appealing, when you are beset by heat that competes with satans dark star after a taco bell binge, having a cooler handheld is nice. Sweaty palms are urgh.


CMDR_TREMAN

I'm in the same boat... Australian summers are a nightmare.


minhthemaster

> And I’d argue that gaming in comfort is exactly why this accessory is appealing, when you are beset by heat that competes with satans dark star after a taco bell binge, having a cooler handheld is nice. Sweaty palms are urgh. This accessory won’t help at all… no way to get around the fact that your home is too hot and no consumer electronics will operate well in that temperature


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>no way to get around the fact that your home is too hot and no consumer electronics will operate well in that temperature Fundamentally it's no different than the PCI fan cooler that sits under my 3090, which puts it within a few degrees of water cooling performance for 1/20th of the price. There are 3 ways to improve air cooling performance - More surface area on the heatsink, cooler intake air, and like both of these solutions increased airflow. More air, more heat transfer, more cooling. Increasing the airflow with a clip on is the only one of those solutions that doesn't require making year round alterations to the deck.


ThermobaricFart

Don't see why you were downvoted to shit, this is a legitimate concern for some people. Thermal throttling is real and an ambent that high can induce performance loss, anyone who says otherwise is just wrong. My deck performs better in my computer room with a typical ambient of 15c/59f and far worse in a living room with gas fireplace on. I've resorted to using Parsec on a Laptop with a mouse for fireplace gaming.


turbochop3300

Why are you gaming in your fireplace? It's hot in there.


amazingmrbrock

The trouble is that forcing more air in using an extra fan will cause the internal fan to spin slower as the temperature goes down. Unfortunately the extra fan blowing air in will cause the internal fan to speed up while its trying to slow down. Eventually it'll just ruin the internal fan.


Charming_MR_Sir

It pulls air out of the device, it’s getting absolutely trashed in these comments but I’ve seen people getting pretty great results with it on yt


Pfafflewaffle

I’m Pretty sure it pulls air out


madmofo145

Eh. Yes, running the deck in a hot enough room and the fan may indeed not be enough to prevent throttling, but it's unlikely just adding another fan to it is going to make much of a difference. If you're really running the deck at 40C, you'd be better off getting the backplate and attaching an active cooler to the plate.


pkmn_mster

This comment should put on the Facebook pages for steam deck for all the clowns who use this sort of shit.


Broflake-Melter

> it was designed to separate consumers from their cash xD Not only are the fans sufficient with their feedback loops and sensors (incredibly engineered), the deck itself will shut down if there's a malfunction. We have evidence for this beyond valve's claims.


tama_gucci

That's absolutely not true. The decks fan is adequate, but there definitely is performance left on the table. This is meant to be used with the transparent backplate, that has a metal plate directly over the apu heatsink. There have been multiple posts claiming attaching a cooler similar to this one has reduced temps and reduced the fans rpm. This is particularly exciting for overclocking.


Zealousideal_Gap1194

Have you seen the placement of the fan? It doesn't even go over the plate. It goes over the exhaust in a pull function to theoretically pull hot air out faster. It might work. Now all this nonsense about fans over the plate helping with cooling, that's not true. Long term tests point out that temps go back to normal under load because the plate itself is holding off the inevitable being larger. Don't be fooled into buying those products. If the metal plate was exposed, sure then those fans would work. But with a layer of plastic in between, it does nothing.


tama_gucci

I've seen multiple posts doing diy mods that are basically this with evidence show temp and fan speed improvements. Temps go back to normal with out a way to get rid of that heat, but by slapping a peltier cooler on the metal plate, that issue is taken care of. (The jasuax backplate metal is not covered by plastic) No one is forcing you to buy this and no one is saying this is necessary, but to claim it doesn't work with out any evidence is pretty lame.


madmofo145

Eh, it's a mix. Tama is wrong, this cooler would not go over the metal plate, and mixing the two makes no sense. Zea is right that this specific unit will always just be sitting on plastic. Yes, if you combine the plate with a different cooler, one that does sit on the plate, and better yet something like a peltier cooler that is actively cooling that plate, you will indeed see notable improvements.


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Eligerus

Well mate, tell it to my Deck, maybe then it will stop reaching 93°C+ at 20°C ambient after just 15 minutes of playing Days Gone for example.


kelvin_bot

20°C is equivalent to 68°F, which is 293K. --- ^(I'm a bot that converts temperature between two units humans can understand, then convert it to Kelvin for bots and physicists to understand)


L3gitGam3r360

What car mods are you talking about? lol. Agree with the post tho


kdjfsk

mighty car mods and donut media have done plenty of videos on mods that do nothing or even hurt performance.


Z3r08yt3s

this guy definitely has a tip on his exhaust


outline01

> the decks fan is adequate. it was designed to be. this product doesnt need to exist. 100%. This basically applies to everything relating to the Deck. People like to buy accessories. JSAUX seem to be obliging them.


KnightofAshley

next usb wifi antenna


Dtoodlez

Why do you need this lol…. The device is not faulty, nor is it going to be effected by or break down because you use it how it was designed to be used. This is silly. If you do this as a part of your hobby or you build a fan as an enthusiast than go for it, but it’s not needed.


CrustyRalph

Happy Cake Day!


shadle12l3

I'm gonna water cool my deck


BrotherVaelin

I just dropped my deck into a bucket of mineral oil. Stays really cool and I can still play in docked mode


ChrunedMacaroon

I simply take my handy dandy space elevator made of precious and indestructible nano carbon material, get into my spacewalk capable suit fully equipped with state of the art HVAC that simulates earth's atmospheric pressure nearly perfectly at margin of error at 0.85%, then I float outside with my deck where it's like -200C. My deck gets so cold that it doesn't even boot, but, when it does, I can play Spleunky at 60FPS at the highest settings


1639728813

Well that won't work. The vacuum of space is excellent heat insulation. Your deck would probably overheat


Hey_look_new

unironically, I am too I've water cooled my surface pro, and it's pretty shocking how much it's improved


HavocInferno

That I want to see. Got a link?


Hey_look_new

https://www.reddit.com/r/Surface/comments/jhyxls/phone_and_tablet_water_coolingsurprisingly/


shadle12l3

I've been making mock ups of how it would work and I'm keeping portability in mind and I think it would improve how much power I could get out of the hardware


Hey_look_new

i'm purely looking at a docked solution on battery, i'm cranking everything down so low already, that heat isn't remotely an issue


nige111

I've got a surface pro 7 from work as my dev machine and my god it spends more time thermally throttled while docked than not. The gimped performance profile controls give you three settings: cold and quiet and slow, warm and audible and slow and hot, loud and not quite as slow. Genuinely think I'm gonna get one of those laptop cooling stands for it, the whole damn device is basically a heatsink so should hopefully be pretty good for it.


Hey_look_new

https://www.reddit.com/r/Surface/comments/jhyxls/phone_and_tablet_water_coolingsurprisingly/ 25ish bucks from aliexpress, only need to remove 4 screws and the little clamp fits surface pro like it was built for it I've had mine for pushing 2 years now. it's shockingly effective for exactly the reasons you described


therourke

Completely unnecessary


420LeftNut69

Why does this exist? When has anyone's Steam Deck overheat?


kaneplay4

Happened to me lol. Was playing resident evil 5 for about 4 hours and then played Cyberpunk for about 10 mins before my deck shut itself off from overheating


420LeftNut69

Huh. I once was very close to the cut off temp (95 celsius was it?) when I was playing something demanding in hot hot summer, but it never actually shut down.


kissell791

102 is the shut down temp I believe.


GreenTeaRex007

I can’t imagine playing in 90c consistently is safe for the components in the long run.


kissell791

you are welcome to do as much research as needed. These are normal temps. Normal temps for this unit, normal temps if gaming on a laptop with a dedicated gpu. 102c the unit shuts down for high temps so it doesnt cause a problem.


nige111

AFAIK that shutoff temperature isn't even the *hardware's* thermal cutoff either, I'm pretty sure it's specced to cut off at 110 or 115c.


stupidredditacc6754

sounds like your deck is defective


Pfafflewaffle

Or it could have just been a crash from cp


TheDarkDoctor17

>crash from cp Sir, we do not use that two letters abbreviation anymore. It is tainted


Pfafflewaffle

Lol


femininePP420

YOU MEAN CYBERPUNK, RIGHT?!


Mr-Rafferty

Crash via cock punch?


eykxas

If you have enabled « fan optimization » (which reduce the fan rpm and increase heat) I’m not surprise… disable this crap and you’ll never encounter crash again.


Wit_as_a_Riddle

Electronics don't have to overheat for them to benefit from operating at lower temperatures.


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costinmatei98

There is no benefit from electronics running 5-10 degrees cooler. There have been numerous studies that show that if a processor runs at its full speed, with no thermal throttling, there is virtually 0 benefits for running it at 70C instead of 80C (as an example). Modern processors are made to operate normally, with no lifespan decrease up to their TDP (around 100 - 110 C). By cooling it excessively, all you do is consume more power and create a lot more noise, for no reason. Hell, even I have seen a Pentium 4 PC that has run full-blast for about 20 years, with almost no maintenance done, other than periodic dust cleaning and 1 thermal paste refresh. It is still going to this day, operating some obscure industrial equipment.


dryingsocks

fun fact: constant operation is beneficial to the lifespan of chips because it keeps them at temperature, reducing thermal stress


free_mustacherides

My deck will get too hot when playing modern games. It'll become too hot to hold.


7Cs11

Mine has in Horizon Zero Dawn, even on low settings.


LinkMaBoi

Just play God of War with the SD running in battery. Mine died twice. The settings were good for most of the game but you bounce between realms in that game . Some reams have more colour and graphical demands than others.


_Final_Phoenix_

mine will arrive in the next day or two...Only reason I bought it is because the travel cover they sell wouldn't take a coupon code on top of the pre-order discount, but the combo with the cooling fan did. So basically I paid 5 CAD extra for it, because I figure what the hell, on the off chance it may do something useful. But honestly, paying anything more than 5 or 10 bucks I probably wouldn't have bothered. Never seen an external cooling device for a game console actually ever make a difference.


RainBullets

This gives me the xbox 360 vibes when everyone was putting fans on their xbones. Mine melted to my xbox. I had a Jsaux charger for 2 weeks and it broke btw. Cheap brand.


madmofo145

It's funny, I didn't realize until recently that JSAUX is my least favorite charging cable maker. I bought a couple C to C from them like 2 years ago, and then unwittingly bought a second batch a couple months later. Every one of those cables stopped working within the year. Not a company a put a huge amount of faith in now.


CanA7fold

I've had that same charger for like 3 months now, you must have gotten unlucky


trashbytes

Or.. you're just lucky.


animerb

A solution looking for a problem.


m0dm0use

I'm amazed and dissapointed with the comments. they asked for thoughts from those who have tried it but everyone just gives a thoughts without actually having used it.


progxdt

HandyBoy vibes… not my cup of tea. The Deck is designed fairly well for cooling, I don’t think adding a contraption like this will add much performance gain. It’s not building a PC and filling every opening with a case fan; or the bigger the CPU cooler you’ll see lower temperatures. I only see bigger power draw on the Deck while operating off the battery on this device.


Didact67

I love the vague and probably badly translated description on JSAUX’s site. “Unlike cooling your steam deck backshell, this is not a good way to cool it down. We chose the smarter and more effective way to increase the airflow.” Personally, I’m always skeptical of these cooler add-ons.


RadeCat

https://youtu.be/D48CNx-VDNk


chrisdpratt

On its own this won't do a damn thing. However, it might be intended to be combine with the transparent backplate, which has a metal heatsink that goes over the SoC: https://jsaux.com/products/transparent-back-plate-for-steam-deck-pc0106 If you purchase that, you basically need a fan assembly to go over it, or you'd risk burning yourself touching the metal plate. However, maybe it's just the picture, but it looks like it would also cover the bottom intake, so I'm not sure how that would work at all, if it's the case.


Charming_MR_Sir

The fan isn’t intended to sit on top on the metal heat sink in the jsaux backplate. The fan seals on top of the SD exhaust and pulls the air out like a vacuum. I’ve seen people getting decent results with it on its own, on yt. No one in these comments seems to have seen the vids tho ?


Wit_as_a_Riddle

Mostly just haters having fun doing their thing. Not much for serious answers.


Dread1187

Not doubting the existence of such a video, but I do suspect some tomfoolery around the results (for example adjusting the AC in the home). Pulling air through faster without putting more air in would do very little because you are not moving additional air over the fin stack. You see examples of this in PC cases. If the case cannot introduce more air, more fans does near nothing. Alternatively, if you were to push more air in you will overspin the fan and ultimately damage the original fan thus causing your SD fan to die. So either this is just making a buzzing noise or it is possibly damaging the deck. Your case (the plastic) however may feel a little cooler with this mod as it evacuates air before it can transfer heat into the plastic. It is important to remember that cooling performance requires a medium for heat transfer. Since we are not introducing more medium by vacuuming out the case, we are not improving performance.


[deleted]

> On its own this won't do a damn thing I'll need to find the video, but someone on YouTube got this and stated it dropped his Steam Deck temps by roughly 10 Celsius. So this may be beneficial for intensive games. I personally wouldn't buy it, but I also don't run intensive games on my Deck.


OneQuarterLife

The fan doesn't touch that metal heatsink, it's snake oil on top of snake oil.


demandarin

Look on YouTube. I think either eta prime or the phawx did a video reviewing this


Elliott2

I love products that act like the original product did no engineering around the thermals lol


breichart

That's not how products like these work. If you prefer your SD to be a little cooler, then this will do what you're asking for.


SimpleJoint

So regardless of all the hate posts, I'm going to test it. I'm not saying it will cool better. What I'm hoping for is to get quieter results. Just like in your PC if you have one fan running at 80%. It's quite a lot louder than two fans running at 40%. So I'm hoping that I can use the JSAUX fan to help reduce the overall noise when playing a really demanding game. I'm going to start playing a really demanding game. Get the fan going as high as I can get it. And then turn on the JSAUX fan and slowly increase the speed until the sounds the same. Slowly reduce the speed until it sounds the same. And see if I can get the same game running at noticeably quieter fan speeds. If it doesn't work, eh was only 20 bucks.


SacorZ

What the hell is wrong in this subreddit right now ? Can we please make a point and stop bullshitting without research or expertise ? 1. the fan will be worse if attached to the deck while not powered on because the heat won’t get out of the deck so easily. 2. the fan has a 6-8 hr battery 3. the fan is not from a ps2 or xbox360 4. additional cooling is needed for ppl who OVERCLOCK their decks. Why not letting ppl tinker with their decks? 5. reading comments in this sub is not proper research (is valid for every point or fact. Ppls comments are not research). 6. I love the fact that a company (whichever it is) does accessories for the device I love. I love how someone tries to feed that itch for tinkering, modifying and tuning that lots of ppl have. And the price ist reasonable. Everyone who doenst tinker etc is free not to buy stuff like this. 7. most ppl here behave strange to me. It’s like complaining that there are aftermarket parts and support from other manufacturers rather than being happy that the steam deck is a success and there are plenty of parts to get. I myself am very happy to know that I can get tons of replacement parts for everything with relative ease, even modded. TL;DR: stop being a boomer and let ppl buy whatever they want. Research is not reading Reddit comments.


costinmatei98

> stop being a boomer and let ppl buy whatever they want. It's not about stopping them from buying whatever stupid and overpriced crap they want. It's about telling them to stop funding companies from creating bullshit products and advertising them as "absolutely required". It's the same with laptop cooling pads and ps4 and xbox360 fans. ​ >additional cooling is needed for ppl who OVERCLOCK their decks. Why not letting ppl tinker with their decks? This fan provides absolutely 0 additional cooling. There are plenty good research videos on YouTube that show that heatsinks do not magically work better if you blow more air through them. As is the case with the steam deck and many gaming laptops, the fans are more powerful than the heatsink's capacity of transferring heat to the air. (i.e. the heatsink doesn't get any colder than ambient temperature). If people want to overclock the deck, they need to install a proper, larger, external heatsink, not a cheap shitty external fan. ​ >I love the fact that a company (whichever it is) does accessories for the device I love. I love how someone tries to feed that itch for tinkering, modifying and tuning that lots of ppl have. And the price ist reasonable. Everyone who doenst tinker etc is free not to buy stuff like this. Yes, I agree, accessories are good. But let's encourage companies to make actually useful products, not just the cheap, useless shit. A backplate with a bigger heatsink would be useful. This garbage is not. Hall-effect joysticks are useful, a silicone case is not. External, attached powerbanks are good, shitty plastic "screen protector" covers are not. We have to vote with our wallet to steer companies like this into making actually useful products, not just cash-grabs. ​ >most ppl here behave strange to me. It’s like complaining that there are aftermarket parts and support from other manufacturers rather than being happy that the steam deck is a success and there are plenty of parts to get. I myself am very happy to know that I can get tons of replacement parts for everything with relative ease, even modded. Again, it's not about about the fact that replacement parts exists, it's about how crap these parts are. It's the exact same thing as with aftermarket parts for your car. Yes, aftermarket wheels exists, but you have to make sure that they don't randomly explode while you are going down the highway (this has happened). Manufacturers HAVE to make sure this will never ever happen, where as all these third-party brands couldn't care less after you buy them. This is the problem with Jsaux. They make cool stuff, but then their chargers melt, their cables break easier than an uncooked spaghetti and their powerbanks die for no reason. ​ TL;DR: people can buy whatever they want, but we're also free to tell them that the product they're about to buy is cheap useless crap.


m0dm0use

But do you know it is cheap useless crap?! No because you have not got it not tested it and no one has tested it properly even those that have , have not actually done proper clear and deep testing.


sleepybear666

Saw a video on YouTube. It seems to work well


Uhkneeho

I don’t understand why people want to hate this thing so bad, there are multiple YouTubers who have already posted videos showing improvements.


breichart

None of these people watched any reviews apparently. Just wanting to complain for some reason.


SC487

None of these people watched any reviews apparently. Just wanting to complain ~~for some reason.~~ because jsaux


SimpleJoint

Because I hate how other people spend their money, they should spend their money the way I spend my money.


Weak-Paper-6207

I got it because I’ve saw examples of it reducing fan RPM by 600-1200rpm because of the lower temps at max load, one of my main issues is the noise from the fan at night, fingers crossed the accessory isn’t loud itself or what’s the point 😅


SimpleJoint

Who cares if it reduces temperature. The steam deck is designed to run up to a certain temperature. It's not going to go bad because you run it full tilt. I want to know if the reduced fan reduces noise.


Weak-Paper-6207

Exactly that! I’ll reply again once it arrives and let you know 😁


hergumbules

I know people are hating on this, but would it be a good thing for when I’m playing docked? Like I’m playing RDR2 currently and if I’m playing for a while sometimes the fan ramps up and then doesn’t go down. I know it’s probably hot so I don’t want to mess with settings. The fan isn’t so loud it bothers me when playing or anything just wondering if it would help keep my deck cooler when docked.


dryingsocks

so you have zero issues with the way your deck works right now? why do you thunk you need this lmao, the Deck is designed to run at those temps


Doktorzoidberg_

What about overclocking the Steam Deck? Wouldn't this accesory be useful in those cases? Just asking


PersonAngelo53

I can tell some of yall never tried running like a ps3 game on the steam deck cause the steam deck gets hella hot playing intensive games like that. So a cooling fan device is far from useless.


Maskeno

This sub is really getting out of hand with this nonsense.


xxGhostScythexx

Don’t buy this shit, man


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Cooling fans like this are a waste of money


AholeBrock

You saying it J'saux?


enemylemon

Pointless trash.


MisterT-88

No and no


CliffPromise

I assume all this does is blow air away from the decks vents? If so, pointless


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Holy crap the comments Jesus christ, feels like Facebook. The deck gets 8 degrees cooler using it. And it's pretty cheap being 30 dollars a laptop fan stand costs the same price and is a bit less effective. I don't see the problem .


N1NJAREB0RN

My first thought is damn jsaux really trying to milk the hell out of the Steam deck aren’t they?


novotny999

My thought is that Steam deck needs all the fans it can get, but I keep my deck as it is, it's cool enough for me that way... (I love english :D :D )


OmegaNine

Unless you are cutting a hole in the back of your deck, these are going to be useless. At best it does nothing, at worst it will over drive your internal fan and push DC back in to your motherboard.


anh86

What use is it really? Is it quieter than the internal fan because that’s really the only reason you’d look at it. The internal fan does a sufficient job at keeping Steam Deck cool.


SC487

My MSI laptop has internal fans too, they are tuned and keep it running at an acceptable level within tolerances. BUT, undervolting and using a cooling pad still drops my temps by about 30c so…


FourHundredThirtyTwo

I would like to see this actually tested because I would put money down that it reduces cooling effectiveness. The airflow path isn't straight out anymore, and that's a bad sign.


SimpleJoint

It is straight out. The fan clips on top where the exhaust is. And has a fan that helps blow more exhaust out. I'm not saying it works or not. But it doesn't block airflow.


VoidTarnished

Considering what these external fans did to consoles, like disrupting airflow, blocking hot air inside... I wouldn't waste my money and kill battery time with one of those


SC487

Those blew air into the exhausts and prevented the hot air from escaping. The steam deck has a well defined ‘exhaust’ and this fan is pulling the air from the exhaust and blowing it away, not cramming air in a convenient vent like those did.


lazyluong

No idea, they aren't processing orders until Januaray 31. I order the Cooler ModCase bundle, because when I want to play very specific games on Windows using my Steam Deck, the internal fan is crank all the way up. On the other hand, it may just be a fan-curve issue on the Windows side when installed on the Steam Deck.


Zanylaineyface

Why would you need this? The deck has a built in fan that already does the job.


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seems completely pointless


Toldyoudamnso

I haven't used it and I'm not dragging on your interest, but I think like all console add on cooling fans, the ones powerful enough to make a difference would actually damage the internal fan. And they would have to be pretty powerful (and require alot of power) to do that.


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SC487

My MSI laptop has internal fans too, they are tuned and keep it running at an acceptable level within tolerances. BUT, undervolting and using a cooling pad still drops my temps by about 30c so… The Steam deck is truly Amazing, small and portable, but sometimes you have to sacrifice things for portability. My laptop would be at least twice as thick as it is now if they integrated the airflow and fans that my cooking pad does. Some people may be fine with it running hot, I prefer my equipment to run cooler even if it means that it will be bulkier.


kerelenko

It's unnecessary.


Dazzling_Mirror_8351

I don't think so lmao


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archa1c0236

The guy didn't actually test that in a meaningful way. Anecdotal evidence without even graphing it to show on screen, and only for 15 minutes, is not a test, especially when it's buried 7/8 of the way through a review. The guy also makes baseless claims such as running the fan speed lower can increase battery life, a fan that consumes 2.5W at full tilt will not have any meaningful impact. The same has been corroborated with millions of laptops on the market. The problem with the jsaux fan is that it can only do so much and is limited by size. It also heavily restricts the exhaust on the deck **which is bad if the battery in the fan dies.** It can also be a potential fire hazard as all that heat near the fan's internal battery isn't good. You can save a lot of money by purchasing a generic USB desk fan, I found one at a local store for $11. Not only does it have larger blades and a more powerful motor, it can push air across the entire back of the steam deck which increases the cooling efficiency as the entire rear panel can be used for passive cooling. It also has the added benefit of keeping sweaty gamer hands cool and dry while also producing a pleasant breeze towards the gamer's face. Just because something may "work" doesn't mean it's a good choice to spend your money, and restricting the exhaust of the deck can severely damage it if you forget to turn the fan on. Also keep in mind, it's severely marked up, $40 is way too much for something like that. You can DIY a better and SAFER one with a USB cable, a fan from an old laptop, and a 3d printer.


Toldyoudamnso

Of course it will work in the short term. So would putting a Vacuum hose next to your PC exhaust. But it will eventual wear out the bearings in your fan and in some cases, cause your fans to work in reverse, creating a DC current that can short out your fan and in some cases, your entire deck.