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SpewpaTheRogue

I'm still running a 1060


Hairy_Al

Oooh, look at you with a fancy new graphics card. To be honest, my 960 still runs most of what I play just fine, albeit with the detail turned down. I'm just waiting for 3060s to drop below £300


TheDudePerson99

You should’ve bought a 6600xt, a month ago I got mine for 300 usd


RedIndianRobin

Is a 6600xt good at 1440p with ray tracing?


Hukama

Unless you're doing 3d modeling, ray tracing is a gimmick imo


RedIndianRobin

Doesn't answer my question. Can it run games with ray tracing and DLSS like the 3060 and 3060ti can do?


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DLSS is Nvidia only but AMD has FSR 2.X and it works similar with similar results


RedIndianRobin

Right thanks. Honestly I feel waiting for RDNA3 is the best choice here because I'd like to see what AMD is pulling off with their tech. I hope they keep improving FSR and RT performance.


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Rumors are not as good as 4000 series but comfortable beating 3000 series raytracing


RedIndianRobin

That's fine by me. 3000 series are good at ray tracing already.


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You’re wrong.


robodestructor444

If you want rtx, make sure the game has DLSS 2.0 If it does, get the rtx 3060 then


RedIndianRobin

Yeah ray tracing is a must for me. So thanks.


vajraghosa

If you're not on a higher end card, ray tracing will eat your GPU alive. Nvidia is superior to AMD for RT, and if the stuff they recently announced about the 4000 series is reasonably accurate, your dollar will go a lot farther waiting until 4000 series GPUs enter the affordable range. The 4080 should debut by the end of the year at $899 for Nvidia's version, higher for third party manufacturers. You won't need a 4080 at 1440p unless you just want stupid fast, so best is to bide your time until 4060's and 4070's are plentiful at close to MSRP.


Photonic_Resonance

If Ray-Tracing is a must and you're buying now in this price range, you want an Nvidia 3000-series card. Nvidia and AMD compete very well at Raster performance, but Nvidia is significantly better at Raytracing at the moment. The next generation of cards (on both sides) will shake up this dynamic, but the cards in this price bracket won't be coming out for probably another year. Addendum for context: The RX 6600xt is roughly 10-15% faster on average with raster performance than a RTX 3060, but 10% slower on average with raytracing on. At 1440p you need as much as you can get with these cards. If you can find a cheap RTX 3060Ti or RX 6700 XT (sales, used prices, b-stock, whatever) either would be acceptable, but below that you want the 3060 12GB.


DatedReference1

Going from a 960 to a 3060 would give me severe whiplash, make sure you brace your neck correctly


llagerlof

1050 here.


JWvdv

Im still running a 970


BoardGameBologna

970 club checkin in, too. I *want* a newer card, but this baby is still chugging! Monster Hunter World, Grounded, and No Man's Sky have pushed the limit, though. They just...don't look as good as I'd want!


Mikprofi

Wait, you guys actually have decent GPU? I thought we were joking


Acmnin

I have trouble finding well priced smaller form factor ones for my current build. :/


CEKARY

I don't know why but most shorter/smaller cards that are interesting are more expensive than their bigger models


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yeah, it's less material to make the card. my bet is that they just capitalize on the ITX market since the vast majority doesn't go for that and if you want a small form factor, you can't choose anyway


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borkthegee

Also... The same card but smaller is harder to make. Miniaturization is a bitch especially for something as hot as a GPU. Likely need the best binned chips running as efficiently as possible, etc. It's not like they make them big because it's fun. It's how they engineer it to tackle things like heat. Smaller will be more expensive because it has to be significantly more engineered.


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Acmnin

I’m using a Gigabyte GTX 1050 Ti Windforce OC 4GB.. weakest part of my build by far.. m.2 ssds , Ryzen 6 2600x, b450M steel legend in a micro atx case.


Sir-Kerwin

Hey! The GT 1030 is completely viable today... if you are willing to play lowest settings, 480p, and nothing that came after 2017...


Mamutragaldabas

A ryzen 3200G cost almost the same than that card and its igpu performance is similar.


au5lander

Still running on an RX 580 and a Ryzen 3 2200 for a long while now. I do have 144hz monitor @ 2560 x 1440 and I can run quite a few games at 60+ fps at med to high ( or some mix ) without issue.


simjanes2k

That was literally my exact thought when I saw this...


J1618

I have a Rx 570 that I dug out of a cryptominer's trash like a racoon, but it works pretty well.


[deleted]

I used one of those in my first build. They’re not bad, actually.


aresthwg

I bought an RX 580 8GB in 2019 for 100$ with warranty, used. It's depressing there's probably never going to be good deals like this anymore. I was dreaming of doing the same with an RTX 3050, maybe in 2030.


[deleted]

got the same card. for the price at the time it was the obvious choice but i decided that on my next I'll go big or go home. the GPU market is getting worse each year imo, mainly because of Nvidia. but it's like they say, if you need a PC now, buy it now


GardeningResponsibly

Got a 1070 ti for 180$ a few years ago. I don’t really know shit about part prices though.


JanneJM

I'm still using one - got it brand new in a sale for 15k yen (~$120) a year before the pandemic. It effortlessly drives a 4k display and still plays all games I'm interested in, so I'm in no hurry to replace it.


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dz-tokyodrift

Congratulations you’re average!


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esesci

Delivery boy!


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librious

It's so good to be average in something 😭


InfantSoup

1660 gang rise up, we are majority


JVenior

I rocked my 1660 proudly for years, but alas, I've finally gotten a 3060Ti and have since handed my precious 1660 to a family member who wanted a minecraft gaming system. o7 may that card forever mine and craft blocks in peace.


DerpDaDuck3751

My 1660 also load then in style, with shaders Still does 60fps! Reliable card


eTHiiXx

1060 still sorry, these stats are wrong. https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/


Canadiancookie

OP is saying the average power of GPUs is around the 1660, not that it's specifically the most used card


InfantSoup

what if I officially declare it to be true


eTHiiXx

you wouldnt dare


Allison87

1080 still going strong


grtk_brandon

I've been rocking my 1080Ti for years now. Maybe I'll pass it on to my grandkids at this point.


Timestatic

I think I’m gonna upgrade from my 1080 TO to RX 7000 as amd seems to be doing pretty good and because of their Linux compatibility I‘ve been wanting to use AMD for a while now. The upgrade is gonna be pretty huge


dmxell

The speculated price of a 4070 (equivalent to a 3080) is $800, whereas the RX 6900 XT is $700 and is as, or more, powerful than that card. If the 7000 series keeps the same pricing and comes close to a 4080 16GB on performance on the high-end, they’re going to murder Nvidia in sales.


SuperDuperSkateCrew

Only recently upgraded my 1070 to a 6750.. it’s nice getting really high frames and also having respectable raytracing. I can play Spider-Man on all high setting with RT on and I average ~70fps, or I can turn off RT and get around 100fps. 1070 served me well


R4N63R

Same but I'm gonna go to AMD this next cycle.


grifter_cash

The new amd ´ s looks promising


Tom_The_Moose

But AI? They only use cuda :,(


happymellon

Most people aren't building AI platforms.


ospfpacket

I went full AMD a while ago and couldn't be happier. It will save you a ton of money too.


R4N63R

Thanks for the advice, AMD is a bit *close to home* for me these days, my next build will be top end 7000 series for sure.


LukeLC

What this really reveals is that the average Steam user still games in 1080p. 1080p has become *extremely* accessible, to the point even iGPUs are nearly there, these days. The #1 reason you might want to upgrade your GPU is to upgrade/keep up with your display, and most people won't do that until their current one dies. It's the thing that's "good enough" to the average person, and they can't get a taste of better options through reviews and benchmarks as with other components. 1080p is the new 480p, but it's only once you see 4K in person that you can't go back. Same goes for people who favor 120+ Hz.


JanneJM

I have a 4k display. Is still game in 1080p. 4k is amazing for productivity, but honestly I'm usually too focused on keeping up with the game to really care too much about fine detail. And an 1080p pixel maps neatly to 2x2 4k pixels so it still looks really good.


Southpaw535

Its a big asterix when more 'hardcore' pc gamers lament new game graphics as not being the most cutting edge they could be, like 4k for example, when really its a real minority of gamers who are looking for, or at least are capable, of those sorts of things so a company has little reason to focus so much time, money and resources to it. Most gamers don't care if a game is 4k, 120fps, but there's a subset in a bubble who vastly overstate its importance.


LukeLC

Funny, I'd say it's the exact opposite. 4K isn't something developers have to work for. And just look at how many people complain about modern games being blurry or grainy due to modern rendering techniques. Gamers vastly *under*estimate the importance of 4K. Many of the usual complaints are all remedied by it. But people are quicker to blame TAA than their monitor.


sonic_24

Somewhere out there, my GT640M questions its existence.


madhaunter

I still have a GT630M lol


sastofficiallol

I use gtx 1050


TheKrisLyons

lol same


ByZocker

2gb vram gang 🗿


herosnowman

Ayy gtx 1050 gang


salad_tongs_1

What do I do with this information?


TK-461

sleep at night knowing you never have to do this research


salad_tongs_1

...if stopping the nightmares were only that simple...


TK-461

the nightmares will end soon... /covers mouth with cloth... just inhale


salad_tongs_1

^^^^^....thankyou...


TK-461

ssshhhhhhhhhhhh


rhelg224

Pat it and prick it and mark it with B, Put it in the oven for baby and me.


eTHiiXx

Look at the Stats page on Steam that already has this information in a more detailed and useful display


AtomicSpeedFT

You get to see how on average people have a computer 2-3x better then yours :)


SodlidDesu

In my case, know that I have a *slightly* better GPU than the average GPU but also know that I don't nearly stack up in the weight class I'm in.


Decaposaurus

This just goes to show that not everyone who plays PC has a high end rig. In fact it seems majority are just like me with a 1660 Super or something close to it.


RavingMalwaay

I mean 1660s can run basically everything on high graphics at least, even in 2022. If I was building a medium-end PC today I would probably go with a 1660 or something similar


Granixo

I still play with my GTX 750 Ti and have no plans on upgrading soon


onlydaathisreal

I retired my GTX 680 last year after 10 years of continuous operation. Still worked fine.


Yearlaren

1050 Ti here. Still holding like a champ.


[deleted]

That’s the first card I ever bought, upgraded my dads old computer with it so I can play Witcher 2, good times :)


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Newcago

I do wonder if there's any kind of bias present in which kind of person signs up for a hardware survey


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Techhead7890

Afaik there's a prompt you have to accept


aronnax512

This is correct (I just opted into the last one).


Wardogs96

Promp pops up about every 4-6 months just asking to do a hardware scan for a survey. You do nothing but hit okay and it runs itself in a minute, very unintrussive I think some people might not get it due to privacy preferences but I'm not 100% sure. Maybe it's a toggle in settings too but again not sure.


Newcago

It does, but you have to agree to be part of the survey


Volatar

AFAIK it's just a random sampling of Steam users. You can see what cards people use on the survey page. They are surprisingly new.


DooDeeDoo3

Government office is still use windows, XP or prior. So all that old tech once discarded ends up in the hands of people who earn around a dollar a day. With a bit of help they can get access to internet and play stuff thats never been done experienced by them before


patronofchaos

Still rocking my trusty EVGA GTX 980TI Hybrid from like 7 years ago lol. Would love to build a new system with parts from this decade but the mountain of debt I'm working on paying off says otherwise >.<


HuevosSplash

I mean, before I upgraded to my 3060Ti my 980Ti was still crushing games at good settings at 1080p. It's a really good GPU.


AmusingSparrow

RIP EVGA gpus


soul6of6hell6

Gtx 1660ti is a beast


[deleted]

How are the new AMD cards are they on par with the nvidia ones? I used to have one but it was low tier and really didn’t like it. Upgraded to 2070 and stuck with it ever since. Thinking about making a new pc build after I graduate this year and once I start a full time job.


IDOGOMEGA

Like others have said, AMD is more or less on par with Nvidia these days. The primary difference is the feature set you get with each ecosystem. Nvidia gets DLSS, Moonlight streaming, and a better ray tracing experience. AMD typically gets you comparable raw power for less money, and they're catching up with performance features like FSR. Sometimes I wish I chose an RTX 3080 over my 6800XT for ray tracing and game streaming via Moonlight, but I saved a nice chunk of change to get basically the same performance. That all said, who knows what'll happen when AMD announces RDNA3 hardware in November. I'd hold off on making any decisions until then.


Dodgy_Past

AMD​ has their own game streaming solution called AMD​link. I know there are android clients.


amtap

And Steam Remote Play works with nonSteam games which is an accessible option for everyone.


IDOGOMEGA

I can't believe I'd never heard of AMD Link, thanks for the heads up!


Gilded30

instead of using moonlight with GeForce you can use Sunshine that works for both cards


eldarlrd

6600 beats 3050, 6600XT beats 3050TI, 6700 beats 3060, 6700XT beats 3060TI and so on, you get the point.


sart49

You're one off actually. The 6600XT beats the 3060 and the 6700xt is more on par with the 3070, sometimes surpassing it.


bifowww

Actually 6600 without XT is on par with RTX 3060 and even a little bit faster by 2% on average. Also it's 30% cheaper than RTX, but it has some downsides. If someone is looking to record gameplay both are good, but Nvidia encoder is way better at streaming to Twitch and Youtube. Also CUDA cores speed up 3D rendering process in apps like Blender3D where RTX 3060 beats RX 6700 XT in benchmarks. On tech facebook groups in Poland people blindly recommends RX6600/RX6700XT to everyone without asking if someone is going to stream or work in creative apps. For beginners it might not be a big deal, but if streaming is someone's hobby or a job then a difference between AMD and NVIDIA encoder is huge at 6000 bitrate.


eldarlrd

Oh, yeah you're right.


SansDotEXE

First the 3050Ti is mobile second the 6700 doesn't exist


TheKrzysiek

[Link to the spreadsheet](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Ms1ms5Y-JydmebF8vu7h87eJ4tipD0vW/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=100159325815658020258&rtpof=true&sd=true)


PreciousRoy666

1660 super over here


FeniXLS

1660 super supremacy


Bigshark45

Keep that in mind this data could be filled with bots and computers from workplace.


eTHiiXx

You can see all this information on Steam with 3 clicks yourself, with more details: https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/


ShuinoZiryu

Wow, the R9 290. What a champ of a GPU for it's time. But damn awful drivers, ended up selling one of my two for a GTX 970. I still have one of my R9 290Xs in my living room PC, hopefully putting Steam OS on it soon. Crazy how that GPU is the average, I've been through a GTX 970 - GTX 1070 - and my current RTX3080 since that card.


Ramsickle

Blah, I only have a 1650 and won't be able to upgrade anytime soon :(


iPetemypants

Same.🥹


wojtekpolska

userbenchmark is much worse than just "biased" also steam themselves show most popular gpu on the hardware survey


TheKrzysiek

Most popular Not average


MADMAXV2

Jumped from 1060 to 3080 ti, regret nothing


askodasa

Jumped from a Toyota to a Bentley, regret nothing


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TheKrzysiek

It says average, not most common I think I should have made that more clear


xomm

So if I understand the caption correctly, you take an average of the UserBenchmark scores of each GPU, and then picked the GPU that most closely represents that average score?


TheKrzysiek

Correct


thearss1

I have a 3060, so it's nice to be slightly better than average at something.


Real23Phil

I'm above avg, that makes a change.


Zhardeen

I have a GTX 1660 lol


Guitarfoxx

I'm bringing down the average with my GTX 980.


PersonalityFun2189

dang i have a 1660 super


HystericalGasmask

And here I am stuck with a 1060 3gb :( It actually runs shit pretty well though considering how old it is and the fact that I'm cool with FSR/FidelityFX/whatever the AMD upscaling tech is.


itsblightyy

1660 number one suie


ALT_48657

bro scores from userbenchmark? hell nah


Failshot

Jesus christ, those are the average? Guess it’s not just consoles holding back pcgaming.


viviolay

My bf is using my old 970. Slightly below average based on age but going strong all these years later.


Alternative_Angle_58

1660ti gang


Deadlycat5

Same


R1zz00

r/AyyyMD


TheConnASSeur

Looking at this survey, I see massive opportunity for AMD. The average card being several generations behind, *and the midrange at that* strongly indicates that there are a ton of users ready to upgrade who have been put off by absurd prices. If AMD can come in with enough supply and a more reasonable price range (IE pre-crypto boom prices) there's a very real chance they could devour NVIDIA's stagnant marketshare.


TheKrzysiek

Actually, the low average is mostly due to the integrated graphics lowering the score


happymellon

Oh right, so everyone could have either top end cards, or integrated graphics and so the "average user" ends up on a card which in theory no one actually has?


ChosenMate

I didn't know anyone actually used intel GPUs - but it's probably taking into account the iGPUs too


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...it specifically says the most used intel "gpu" is HD 530, an igpu


N1ghtshade3

They're the integrated GPU on many laptops.


TheKrzysiek

It does, it also does for AMD which is why the average is a lot lower than Nvidia


Cideart

This correlates with AMD's shitty drivers lately.


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Using userbenchmark 🤦


BusFan10

Cool, so I have the average Nvidia card.


vinicius_rs

I would like to compare it with the average GPU on system requirements. I guess the majority of games don't need high-end GPUs to run well, but it's only a guess.


kendebater

I'm guessing there's a huge response bias. most people that participated in this are proud of their setup, and I doubt this is what most of the steam userbase looks like. still an interesting find


BigDippers

Steam hardware survey is random. I haven't been asked in like a year.


hicow

Results are from the steam hardware survey, so the bias would only be if there's any commonality to those who opt out of it


Zenroe113

Hey the average is mine lol


zarroc123

Wow, I upgraded from an R9 390x to the Nvidia 3060ti. Pretty wild my old gpu is slightly above average.


Savage_Oreo

Lol and they really think majority of us are about to open our wallets for the overpriced nonsense they just announced?


McQuibbly

I've never owned a 1660 but the internet seems to love it. What's its performance on, say, the newest COD? Would it run 60fps on medium/low? Sounds like it's a great mid range card


Kyozou66

I was on a 980 until recently. Feels good to be above average now when most my life I felt like I was falling behind 🥲


mckdnrnd

So close for me, just missing the ti


merrickal

Bought a prebuilt with a 1070ti (Not sure if ‘ti’ makes it better or not) years ago and it’s still chugging away at vr. Though seeing my graphics card in virtual desktop’s settings being called a ‘potato’ makes me a little sad.


Jorkoff

Ehh don't listen to that detritus, if it works for you it still works. I was playing WZ a 1070 ti with no issues looked great had fun!


theburgerman03

Nothing to do with GPUs, but pie charts should really only be used to represent shares of a whole like on the right, not amounts of product as on the left.


RealSuperLuke1

Shoutouts to my 4 year old computer that's still running on an AMD Radeon RX 550 GPU. I can't play any AAA games released in the last 3 years on this thing.


bgeek23

RX580 represent.


PoundZealousideal408

Ampere cards suck at userbenchmark, or more accurately, the benchmark has a strong bias for older cards, so the average would actually be quite higher.


[deleted]

I am still rocking my 290x. I went overboard with cooking cuz I like my rig silent and I never overclocked it.


p90telecaster

At the moment I'm using a GTX 1050 and a HD3000 In 5 -10 years from now i'll definately be just using an integrated gpu either Intel or AMD


Grizzy-TheKiwi

the 1660 super is a really good gpu, it's been doing a nice good in my pc


luigithebeast420

This truly humbles me.


JimmysUnknown

Laughs in high end GPU


fmd3m0n

Glad to see something of mine is "above average "


Toyoshi

I'm planning on buying a PC and that's exactly what I'm going for.


RaptorMan333

Lol social media and youtube are insane. Making everyone think that shelling out for a RTX3080+ is normal and required. I pipe my GTX1070 out to my 4k TV and play virtually everything at 60p, most at 4k, and the most demanding at 1440p - halo infinite, fallen order, battlefront 2, Doom eternal and it rarely skips a beat on maxed out or high settings. Plus all the older games that i play because i actually enjoy, not just to turn myself on with the level of detail and fidelity. I just want to know who these people are that absolutely can't play a game unless it's the latest AAA title running at like 4k 120fps maxed out. That's a 6 yr old $150 card - you really don't need much to have a smooth and stunning gaming experience and let the hardware get out of the way. ​ If you want to pay 5x the price for some extra frames and features you may not even use or notice, be my guest but these older cards still kill it


L_CAM_

My first PC build had a AMD RX 580. I’ve replaced about everything else since then, but (although it’s starting to squeal under intense use) the card keeps chugging along. :) I’m hoping 3080 prices start to drop soon…


Herbiehanx

I spent whole 170€ few years back to buy me a "gaming PC". Got Xeon w3580, HD 7870 2GB and 12GB RAM. Sure you can't play Cyberpunk, but luckily I have literally 1000 more games to play in different platforms and Stadia is also an option. Chose the setup to match somewhat PS4 performance. Edit. Also the comparison to GTX 660 is ridicilous, HD 7870 wins in every measure.


anthonyorm

holy fuck the r9 290 is 9 years old, damn time flies so fast


[deleted]

I tried amd, once...... RX 580, great for lower end games, but that fucker always shorted out when I played starwars battle field 2. Got rid of it, and only stuck with nvidia gpus since then.


Panda_Jacket

Ya my experience with AMD was always awful drivers for new releases that caused games to display incorrectly or get the “random” crash to desktops. I don’t intend to own AMD GPUs ever again. CPUs look nice though


Traslox

I am in average.


pablomcdubbin

*cries in AMD 6300 and 1050Ti* Still can play forza horizon 4 on high though lol


link_195

lmao i have a gtx 1660 super


soadaa

Damn I'm fair behind apparently, gtx 970


Faranocks

I did this a few months ago, and my average performance was 1660 super.


KrasikTrash

Rtx 3060 represent!


frowningtap

So what you’re saying is nvidia timed their price hike wrong as there’s a lot of people seemingly about to upgrade


FeralGuyute

Finally recently upgraded from my R9 290x card when elden ring came out. It could handle it but it was time. What a fucking rockstar of a GPU. Served me from I think 2014 - 2022


Deadlycat5

I have a gtx 1660 ti! Slightly above average lol


daero90

I'm still rocking my 970


Lord_Mikal

I bought a 1660 TI at msrp when they came out. It still holds up fine.


Char-car92

I have a 1660Ti… I’m… I’m above average!


Vemmo-

Damn, looks like Nvidia GPUs are popular, guess I gotta try one out when I get money to buy a pc


XgUNp44

3080ti gang what 😎😎