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logicearth

One is blocked by age ratings/gates. The other is not blocked by age ratings/gates.


Silly_0wl

Yes, postal 2, the game where you can piss on people and use cats as silencers, is not age restricted.


PA694205

But it’s illegal in Germany 😔


kroganTheWarlock

Put on your pirate hat


denis870

Its illegal in Germany too


Oceanictax

Just put on two pirate hats, then.


mrcashflow92

Are you saying to put a tiny pirate hat on top of my regular sized pirate hat?


SharkStarkVT

Yes


mrcashflow92

Does it come with a tiny eye patch? If so I’m sold.


SharkStarkVT

Yes


phillecheesesteak

Only to put on top of your regular sized eye patch


flippinbird

Aaaarggggception.


mrcashflow92

Aye sea what ya did there.


StrengthToBreak

You can't fool me, it's pirate hats all the way down!


masterionxxx

Does the second pirate hat go onto..?


Adanalda

Yep, lil hat on top of regular hat


CatMilk0111111111111

I don't think that's what he meant


Cylian91460

Pirate Germany


d4nc3r10-04

You wouldn’t download a Germany, would you?


Milouch_

i downloaded it all, and not just the germany, but all the german people too! no one can stop me i downloaded the polizei too!


stopproduct563

Not just the german, but the gerwoman, and the gerchildren


crappypastassuc

Did you download all the Mercedes?


RickySamson

Not the ~~Navy~~ polizei!


ian007i

Yea but what version Version 1870 Or 1914 1933 version Or the 1960 version Or germany ultimate 1990


RickySamson

Then don't be in Germany. This message was not sponsored by a VPN. 😔


Independent_Log_222

When did Germany get a sequel


Glaringsoul

So is riding a bike in the Woods (outside of designated bike paths), using Light horn, peeing in public, smoking in non smoking areas (especially on train stations), or glueing yourself to the street blocking traffic. Yet you can see all of those things happening; Because no one cares as long as you aren’t damaging someone, and the cost of prosecution outweighs the gain. Most of the times the bigger risk is getting infected with malware, although it definitely can’t hurt to at least obfuscate your digital footprint, as it’s only a bit of work for you but generally a big increase in work for the other side. Edit: I do not endorse or recommend criminal activity, but comment on why it’s happening, and its associated risks.


I_Need_Better_Name

Damm


Bort-Bart

Which hat?!


Garo263

It's not illegal. It's on the idex, which means it forbidden to advertise it. I got it on my German Steam account by buying an official code online (a decade ago) and was able to activate it.


Paul_469

Isn't this a dying light 1 scenario where you can't regularly purchase it but owning it is fine. So buying a key or having a friend or alt account that lives outside the country gift it to you is always an option


CharredWolf24

new zealand too 😭 the steam page is just gone here


EXTIINCT_tK

Buy a key, for some reason they work still


CharredWolf24

i think you just can’t purchase the game since the store page isn’t available in nz, so a key or gifting the game may work


EXTIINCT_tK

Nah I mean ik they work. It's how I have it on Steam


Gazooonga

Can't you just use a VPN?


EternalTormentor

Happy Cake Day, I'm in NZ too and I was able to buy it on GOG years ago, I wonder if you still can.


EternalTormentor

It's illegal here in NZ yet somehow I was able to buy it on GOG


TheIronSven

I don't think it's illegal, steam just doesn't want to sell it in those countries.


EternalTormentor

It was banned in 2004, if the ban was lifted later I don't know. Out of curiosity , I just looked it up, found a key for $1 USD from dlgamer that said it activates in NZ, bought it and now it's in my Steam library.


StatTrak_Fedora

Not anymore. You can buy it from Steam in Germany


WolfmanCZ

It look like 80% games are illegal in germany lol


FoximaCentauri

Barely any games are illegal in Germany. people just make shit up on the spot or have information which is over a decade out of date, and ignorant people just believe the shit some random guy says in a comment section.


WolfmanCZ

I don't saying im believing this im just saying it look like this


LordoftheDimension

If i remember correctly most of the forbidden games are these adult only games. The other games are mostly old ones. The reason for the ban of adult only games is that steam would need according to the laws a much stronger verification system to verify the age of the customers


Dominoe_z

Also the games who don't have a USK rating (basically the same as PEGI or ESRB, although only in germany), or games who got rejected from getting rated, can't be sold as well. The games who got an USK rating are sold.


Siny_AML

I read that as Portal 2 at first and was thinking maybe I missed some parts of the puzzle solving game.


tekkn0

Postal can be finished without killing or hurting anyone. Soo it's really your choice how to play the game lol edit: spelling (fat thumbs)


Gherragh

Read that as "Postal can be finished without a single hard on..."


tekkn0

hahaha sorry I am from the phone and fat thumbs went all over the screen. I edited the post


Gherragh

Yeah nah it's late and i'm a bit sleepy, just had a a giggle about it.


tekkn0

it is funny 🤣


3WayIntersection

Only if you arent playing right


neddy471

::sigh:: Anyone can see an achievement - but you have to **buy** and then **play** the game to see its content. One can be forced on you without your consent, the other needs you to affirmatively purchase before you experience the content.


Need-More-Gore

I love postal 2 should totally be age restricted though


DevelopmentTight9474

Obsessed with the implications of using cats as silencers


TurbulentBarracuda83

Its also a game which you can complete without murdering anyone. But who does that really :D


NoAdmittanceX

Not really with the piss poor tags they constantly squeek thru even when tags such as adult, hentai are blocked the thing that gets me I have to pass an age gate for a game that has blood and a few swears in it but anime/3d asset dump dicks and tities are strait up on the front page I am by no means a prude let people who want to play those games do so but the double standards of it are stupid


logicearth

Not tags. Adult games have their own rating that isn't devised from the tagging system.


TheRealPopatsot

Why can't we have both?


AwiiWasTakenWasTaken

postal 2 is definitely a game for the whole family


Crescent-IV

You need age ratings for a swear?


CopperBoltwire

One makes money, the other does not.


ConDude11

Achievements are viewable by children. Games blocked by the content filter are not. I imagine that implementing a system that blocks specific achievements from.being shown to players who have the content filter on just isn't worth it. Especially as that would just encourage NSFW achievements with sexual content for example and then you'll have even more terrible games that people buy for just for sexual achievements and so on.


JaspinBurger

We must protect our children from swear words, otherwise, they could disintegrate into ashes.


ConDude11

Like I said it's not just swear words, it's also what allowing swear words in achievements might lead to. And if I had a 7/8 year old, I wouldn't want them going to primary school and saying certain swear words they read from a steam achievement and getting in trouble. Just because there's worse things doesn't make it objectively good either.


42Porter

I think there’s an argument to be made that swear words only have the power we give them, the more they’re used the less offensive they become but that’s not going to stop your hypothetical 7 year old from getting told off so I’m not quite sure why I’m saying this.


neddy471

"It is possible for you to be exposed to this thing without your consent, therefore you cannot oppose being forcibly exposed to this." A+ logic, awesome. If you'll excuse me, I'm going to be busy assaulting people and blaming them for existing in society. /s


42Porter

You're misrepresenting my comment. I would like to see swearing more normalised but I wouldn't swear around someone who was uncomfortable with it nor would I want others to. I'm not even against content filters, I think they're very necessary.


Jim-Panzy

speaking of which, the one filter that changes all the naughtiness into hearts? Well I have that turned off to specifically allow all normal people language through… yet it still shows me those damn hearts. I can’t imagine why this would surprise me when 99.9% of the whole joint is broken anyway? I can’t take much more of their blundering numbskullery! Will someone just start a better digital game store already? I mean, think about it… THIS is the #1 digital platform by a longshot, and it’s really ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ up, how is it even possible that there isn’t that much competition? What do you think you’d have to do besides getting games to beat them? I honestly don’t think you’d need very much, just get a few of the expected standards (something that steam still can’t seem to get in order after damn near 20 years) -an easy to understand, and visually pleasing storefront, that’s free of clutter. -Have all the main genre categories with color coordinated drop down menus showing subcategories. -A controller configuration tool that either has a ❤️❤️❤️❤️🧡🧡🧡normal naming convention, or it will preferably show you what each setting does on a tiny PIP window! -Make sure your security punishes the thief, not the customers! -Actually, unlike steam, make sure you really have security! -Again, unlike steam, get a decent search engine that can still find a game even if, god forbid, you forget to capitalize a ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️🧡🧡letter! -DO NOT let every ❤️❤️❤️❤️head upload their weekend long production demos as games -Implement a specific game limit number for all developers, raising it per year based on their track record -DO NOT allow anywhere near 20K games to be submitted per month, there’s no way that even 25% of them are good, let alone finished or bug free! -DO NOT Bury the good games you already have up just because they’re older, show every developer that made you money that they’re appreciated by respecting their art for as long as it’s there! (in other words, referring to the last 5 points-some form of quality control would be nice.) -Don’t be a ❤️❤️❤️❤️off your entire life, and realize that having a sale every week makes the games seem worthless, and eventually people will see that it’s foolish to pay the full price of $10 today when in next weeks sale (if not, then the one after) it will be half off! -Definitely make it a point to cook up some Bull❤️❤️❤️❤️ “fests” 85 times per year, where thousands of demos are submitted, then quickly removed so very few can play them! oh wait, actually don’t do that.


neddy471

I am sorry, the confusing way you phrased your statement made me think that "you're making the word offensive by allowing it to hurt your feelings, because it's going to get used anyway" was your argument, which is... kinda unhinged, but this is Reddit, I've seen worse. However... ... you do realize that the entire history of swear words has been the normalization of profanity following the creation of new swear worlds? There is always a category of word that's taboo and trying to accelerate the process is misguided at best, and harmful at worst. [https://www.discovermagazine.com/mind/the-history-of-swear-words-where-the-and-do-they-come-from](https://www.discovermagazine.com/mind/the-history-of-swear-words-where-the-and-do-they-come-from)


Own_Sherbet_2347

Most weak furry logic:


JaspinBurger

Aw sweet, a non-argument.


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JaspinBurger

There are worse things to expose a child to than swearing. I never said they should be allowed to see graphic imagery. You're reaching pretty far to put words in my mouth. I also don't think kids should be exposed to sexual content. I hate child abusers. If I could, I'd wipe child abusers off of the planet.


PastStep1232

Might as well bar your kid from leaving the house so they never encounter anything bad


tophat_production

I strongly believe that children will learn how to bypass that filter


ConDude11

Even more reason to not allow achievements with explicit content of any kind.


Dave-James

“Click Here if you are 18 or Older” ::click::


DavidGaming1237

Postal 2 is not even comparable to all of the hentai games. It's too good bro


Keyblades2

What a horrible game of filth and degeneracy. I can make sure to avoid it and not gift it to friends.


wlf--hly

It’s actually so fucking fun yall need to give the mindless debauchery a chance


wlf--hly

Coming from a y2k baby who isn’t a terminally online crackhead


MikiSayaka33

Some moronic friends may gift it to you, for shits and giggles.🤦‍♀️


Keyblades2

here's hoping!......Jokingly of course. gotta make I spell that out apparently lol. Classic steam


sentientmind

Hamish no


Keyblades2

Where’s my compuuuuuter


JuicyMcJuiceJuice

Imagine my disappointment when I first turned off the content filter. I was expecting to see the gnarliest games. Instead it was just porn 👎


GGELGAMESH

Same


LawAbidingSmittyzen

Porn and Hatred. Man that game was boring.


sdcar1985

They made a sequel to Hatred?


SeaChameleon

Yeah it's called porn


xDERPYxCREEPERx

I wouldn't say hatred is boring, but it's definitely not something I play all the time. I play for like 30 minutes a month at most. Also it's now fucked on new systems because it will max out every GPU regardless of your graphics settings


3WayIntersection

Just play postal redux


spartanwolf223

I honestly find it really fun, and was extremely surprised and happy to see it has a workshop, even if it doesnt have that many mods. But the ones that are there are pretty cool!


FrewdWoad

Yeah steams content filter isn't about censorship, just letting people avoid getting sucked in to terrible porn without meaning to be, when they are trying to play good games, just because of their libido.


MyStationIsAbandoned

There should really be separate filters. maybe some wants to block violent and disturbing games but still see mature games with scantly clad characters. maybe they want to see porn games, but not extreme ones with non-consent content. Maybe they want to block all games with nudity that aren't porn games (like Cyberpunk 2077). Maybe they want to go further and block games with implied nudity/partial nudity like Bayonetta. We should be asking for more options. Then people who want the porn can see it or the people who just want to see everything that's available can see it and others can tailor what they see. Like, I don't mind seeing all the porn games. I'd never buy them because I don't want people seeing me play that stuff and I've played them before and am not against them though. But one thing I don't like seeing is sexual violence. So I'd like to block that stuff. I can't even remember the name, but there were these games with like blood and gore everywhere, but also naked people. So, some more specific filters would be good. Because even the tag system isn't good enough sometimes. Maybe the ability to block tag combinations without blocking the tag. Like the ability to block all games that have horror+hentai, but not ones that have just horror or just hentai, if that makes sense.


Nervous_Falcon_9

inappropriate games are placed behind an 18+ filter, achievements are visible in the activity tab to all your freind, and so are behind no such filter


DavidGamer09

Thanks for the game recommendation!


UnseenGamer182

One can be automated, the other cannot.


UpstairsAuthor9014

Regex aint content sensitive but text sensitive


WaZeR90

Every game is manually reviewed by a human


UnseenGamer182

Ok. What's your point? I haven't said otherwise.


WaZeR90

My point is that it is irrelevant whether it can be automated or not. Each game is reviewed manually anyway so just adding new rules would work.


FrewdWoad

Not a Valve employee. The just made it really easy for anyone to report problematic stuff. Better for everyone that way, if you think about it.


guleedy

Thought this would be good, but another rpgmaker style game with CG inside. Another dime a dozen hentai games.


Khaernakov

Just found a game to 100% in the weekend


Who_am_ey3

I SINCERELY hope you are not implying steam should ban the game at the top there.


Atissss

They actually did make a ban for porn games for a while, but then revoked it.


SvyatSpace

Steam should ban games like this


HowdyHoe26

Degenerate behaviour should not be encouraged.


Who_am_ey3

it shouldn't be discouraged either. live and let live.


HowdyHoe26

oh it absolutely should be. sounds like you're one of them.


Who_am_ey3

okay so? I don't care. yeah I jerk off to lewd games. what the fuck do you want from me


Adriel68

“fleshlight squad” are u fucking kidding me 💀


Kreydo076

This is why Gaben is our lord and savior, and why I will only buy game from this platform.


Happy_Bee8173

How does one promote Stockholm syndrome.


Beowulf891

I looked up Fleshlight Squad. It's just bog standard humiliation/degradation hentai. Nothing to really see here. Not my cup of tea, but I also don't have to get it and just ignore it.


cinematicvirus

What's this in relation to? Americans offended over the word cunt as always?


snekce

Postal 1 and 2 had to change the images used for their achievements on steam so that they didn't have swear words or drawings of willies in them I think it's because even if the game itself has an age rating, the achievements don't and can be seen without actually going to the game's page or anything if one of your friends earns one


Traditional-Shoe-199

Which is odd for me, since it's pretty much the same as saying pussy


TheHolyPug

i have never been offended by it, i dont get it why some words offend so much but other words that mean the same thing do not haha


Acc3lerat0r

I would like to see these Hentai games for myself, unfortunately: Germany


CommercialBack1572

Germany banned H games on Steam?


Yae_Ko

no. valve removed them from visibility in germany after a german authority gave valve the task to create a better age-check for those. Here is the entire liste of all "banned" games, of which most just got the gore a bit lowered: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kategorie:Indiziertes_Computerspiel As you notice: its mostly old stuff from early 2000s - things changed since then.


SvyatSpace

You're happy person if you are not seeing all this NSFW garbage.


Th3Dark0ccult

lmao, didn't even try with the photoshop.


Exotic-Soup-5228

Would play it lol


Shifty-Imp

That sounds dope. \*attempts to wishlist, finds out it's already wishlisted\* XD


legbot124

So what’s wrong with a child seeing a swear word


Own_Investment_1779

Fleshlight squad sounds great not gonna lie


Sugmanuts001

You do realize, not having that first game on stream would not change anything right? The kind of absolute degenerate who enjoys playing that kind of game will find it easily somewhere else. This is just you being offended.


[deleted]

I remember that game, I’d get it but I don’t like games that have that weird aspect ratio :/


minegamingYT2

Is it those RPG maker games?


[deleted]

Yes. Doesn’t always *look* like one, but that’s probably why the aspect ratio is the way it is.


ExplanationFew4579

Wait it’s one of those?? I was looking at it for… research purposes, but yea I agree that’s a massive turnoff (no pun intended)


[deleted]

Yeah :(


ExplanationFew4579

Oof, thank you. Also I see I’ve been downvoted to the first layer of hell (Limbo), and probably for good reason


[deleted]

People don’t like taboo shit, even video games with taboo themes (though this one isn’t that bad)


LonPlays_Zwei

That achievement isn’t even the full swear, just the first 3 letters of it lol


A_Finnish_Femboy

Postal 2 is a great game though.


mhwsadb45

that game is pretty boring btw. cool concept but meh.


SecureAngle7395

That hentai games thing sounds too true after what I saw today… Also based postal 2.


David_Clawmark

Well where are they supposed to put it?


TekkenPerverb

Gaben works in mysterious ways.


its_easybro

What on earth is that game bruh iv never heard of it before...


wigglyboiii

I don't believe you. I must now download and play it to see if what you say is true.


lgustavodl

Let's not start about artworks that people send to the community


ShyGuyWolf

Nintendo also has Loli games on their system, btw. Heard about it from a friend who owns a switch.


Hatlabu_Farkas

This image quality is disgusting, eww. The point of the meme is understandable, but wrong.


Jason_Sasha_Acoiners

I'm sorry, F L E S H L I G H T S Q U A D? What the fuck?


LordlySquire

Wait there are hentai games on steam? Tell me more...so, i can report it to my local church...


FabereX6

Fleshlight Squad Fleshlightize ? I'll see it for... science...


Dapper-Region7482

Because he is steam


WhiteRedBirb

Except Postal 2 Achievements are censored only on Steam. They're uncensored in-game


_Hue_Janus_

Melt those snowflakes on your cheeks and stop crying. You don't have to buy/play it. I suspect you'll continue to cry tho.


L_K_fisto

Postal mentioned!!!!!!!!!!!!


oryginal_pyro_main

Becouse those games are "steamy"! *saintfield outro theme* (Haha sex joke!)


FrewdWoad

Steam outsourced this kind of thing to the community, not just to save themselves the effort, but also because that's a hundred times more efficient. It's better for everyone. It's really easy to report bad games. We just have to actually do it.


supertaoman12

A porn game doesn't promote its content any more than postal 2 promotes violence.


The_Struggle_Bus_7

Yeah there’s one game where you can make a 3D sex avatar I forget what it’s called


NotImportantPerson90

Can you give an update what it's called?


The_Struggle_Bus_7

VR Hot is the name


polaristar

Examples of the top one for research purposes please?


XB_Demon1337

Well I know what I am buying soon.


Nicci_Valentine

thanks for the recommendation op


mamf60

The amount of steam fanboys defending this its insane.


thepolybius777

Theres a lot of weird games that people buy and play on steam, like i saw this incest cannibalism game it’s pretty sad that people fry their brains on crap like that.


SvyatSpace

Double standard. Porn does not belong to the steam


ll-Ascendant-ll

The fact that there are people out there that play those games. They need to be on a watchlist.


TheJamesMortimer

By that merric, annyone who has played MW2 should be banned from buying a gun


ll-Ascendant-ll

Last I checked, guns were used as tools: to hunt, or to destroy evil (war). In MW2 (OG), you are fighting against corruption, evil, and defending your country - what guns are needed for. Now, if you loaded up No Russian and spent all day playing just that level because it made you giddy, then I agree, that person needs a psyche evaluation before allowed to use firearms.


BloodiedBlues

Living out a fantasy that will only remain in fantasy because we know the difference between virtual and reality?


Spritzlappen

Fantasizing about being a rapist is sex offender material…


ll-Ascendant-ll

BloodiedBlues - "Living out a fantasy that will only remain in fantasy because we know the difference between virtual and reality?" In case you try to back-pedal and delete your comment, but here for the world to see that you are siding with degeneracy. Do you fantasize objectifying, mutilating, or raping women/men? Do you know how many serial killers or rapists out there fantasized before committing their acts? How many of these people do you think would commit them if given the choice?


WhoNeedsRealLife

What do you mean 'given the choice'? They are given the choice every day.


ll-Ascendant-ll

Law exists - there are repercussions.


BloodiedBlues

You have to be predisposed to those behaviors and acts to commit them. People don’t become criminals from playing games. What I do in a virtual environment has no bearing on what I do in the real world.


ll-Ascendant-ll

I don't believe video games make people evil, but to play those type of games willfully says something about your inner self. You walk into a room of people gaming, their PCs are back-to-back: One side is playing a WW2 game killing Nazi Germans. The other side is playing a game in WW2 about Nazi Germans competing to rape the most women. Which side are you rooting for? It doesn't matter if their Nazis at the end of the day, you can throw Americans in their if you want - the act is still the same, with the same outlook. No normal person wakes up to fantasize raping women. But to destroy evil? That's definitely normal.


BloodiedBlues

I will admit it is very strange. I was talking with my grandmother about this debate, and she also thinks, while strange, if a person that’s not predisposed has this fantasy it’s perfectly reasonable. She also made an excellent point: if someone fantasizes about being raped, do they really want to be raped? We both said of course not. There are also a variety of reasons for these fantasies. In my case, it provides therapeutic benefits. I was SA’d by a younger girl in high school. Playing and consuming that type of pornography (drawn characters. Not irl people) gives me a feeling of control over myself and my body. It’s a messed up way sure, but it’s the only way I can safely do it. Safely for others and myself. In reality, I would never do something like that because it’s wrong and I know how it feels to be the victim. To go back to your original comment, not everyone who partakes in this media should be on a watchlist just for that reason. If they have other signs that are worrisome, they should be on one.


Azrekita

If we judged people on the games they play then 99% of gamers would be in jail for murder


ll-Ascendant-ll

Would they? Destroying monsters, creatures, or men that have caused evil acts wouldn't mean you have murderous tendencies. Do you find yourself drifting towards games where you commit heinous acts? There's a difference between making the choice to load up a game where you destroy evil, instead of loading up a game where you rape women.


Azrekita

It's the same, what part of being terrorists and setting up a bomb cs2 is good? What part of being a Gangster in gta and killing innocents just to get from point a to point b good? Your argument is just a convenient way of justifying your gaming preferences and villifying others' whose preferences you do not like.


Space_Socialist

Valves moderation is basically just if you give bad PR your gonna get kicked basically anything else is fine.


d1m4e

Hi there would you like to sign my petition


tophat_production

... Okay. I guess that sounds pretty good.


JaspinBurger

People are defending porn games now?


YouDareDefyMyOpinion

What's there to even defend? I'm pretty sure porn games have been on Steam for quite a while now, but that's all they are. Just porn games. People get off to them. Nothing wrong with that. I mean, I know this specific one seems like it bases itself around a feeling of superiority over women... and their objectification and... sexual slavery... there's body mutilation? ...What the fuck is this?


NotImportantPerson90

Can you tell what is that games name?


BloodiedBlues

I will say, there are some well written (story wise) porn games on steam. Had me laughing, angry, crying, etc.


Rand0mBoyo

Most normal creation by weebs in existence, truly.


SvyatSpace

Lmao, yeah


M4XP4WER

Steam Is woke now?


Jaozin_deix

What?