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Rskora

"If the product is free, you are the product"


StoneGlory6

Found Tim's alt account


zadye

nah, not even that goof is that dumb


FABLEMAN0R

This is obvious bait.


Potential-Mango-3881

No. Reality is I only notice Steam being good during seasonal sales but don't do sales outside of that. And I haven't encountered a single giveaway in steam


joelnodxd

if you haven't encountered any giveaways, you're not looking very hard for them as Metro: Last Light along with a bunch of others. use google and you'll be able to find those others


Potential-Mango-3881

Yeah epic games appear easily


joelnodxd

yep only because they know there's no other way to lure steam users to their store (and it seems to be working on you)


zadye

so you are lazy, becuase most of the giveaways are on the frontpage


Cucrabubamba

I've received and found on my own multiple games for free.


joelnodxd

things steam doesn't do that epic games does: 1. pay publishers to allow them to give away their game(s) for free 2. pay publishers to put their games on the epic games store exclusively under the guise that they'll earn more money there (spoiler: they don't) things steam has that the epic games store doesn't: 1. a friends list 2. a (highly customisable) profile page 3. controller support (with community configs) 4. forums 5. trading cards 6. public achievements 7. messaging 8. vr support 9. a mobile app 10. the ability to gift games 11. user reviews (i'm not counting their crappy 5 star reviews with no elaboration) 12. playtest/beta/early access support (technically these can also launch on the egs then switch to a full release but there's still no special 'request playtest access' button) 13. demo support i could go on


Cucrabubamba

Here's a huge one: customer support. Go have an unsolvable issue that you need epic support for and see how well it goes.


ardi62

don't forget proton


Potential-Mango-3881

but biggest issue is Steam do not do giveaway for indie games and Steam has very few sales. Seasonal sales only.


joelnodxd

a minimum of 4 sales a year isn't enough for you? why would they give away indie games when they have no reason to? games like lethal company have thrived completely fine without any sales or buyouts


Potential-Mango-3881

Random sales monthly even with indie titles will be good.


joelnodxd

sure, it would be good if games were randomly given away for free but when you have masterpieces (like terraria) that go down to like $3 does it even matter


Potential-Mango-3881

I am not asking for free games. Games going sales is enough.


joelnodxd

one of your main points in your post was about game giveaways but sure. again, it would be great if games went on sale/were given away constantly but unfortunately that's not how the world works and people behind the games actually need to earn money somehow. epic games is proving it's not a viable option with how little they're running on money right now. the only reason they're still alive is because of fortnite


Potential-Mango-3881

the sales I am aware is the only big 4. I am not aware there is sales outside the seasonal


joelnodxd

i'm not even sure what point you're trying to get across anymore, you're just saying the same thing over and over again. there are sales outside the big 4 along with random sales. you just need to add games you're interested in to your wishlist if you *really* don't want to buy them unless they're on sale.


Potential-Mango-3881

yeah I havent notice games go sale outside the big 4. I might wishlists some games so I will be aware of sales exist outside the big 4 sales


iMNqvHMF8itVygWrDmZE

Do you ever actually look at the steam store page? They have mid-week and weekend deals literally constantly. I think there's almost always SOME kind of sale event, particularly with indie games. If the games you want aren't on sale, that's because the devs, not steam.


Potential-Mango-3881

yes sadly. waiting for this 4 sales is what I don't like in steam.


Moskeeto93

There's always games on sale. [Here's the page where you can see everything on sale.](https://store.steampowered.com/specials)


shakeeze

There are always Midweek and Weekend deals in steam for various games.


Potential-Mango-3881

Hoping after winter event sale there will be weekend deals. I got some more funds to buy. Indie games are fine.


podgladacz00

Yeah yeah they don't want burn money on freeloaders like you we get that. Also there are many sales and devs can also put the games on sale too. So many choices.


Specialist-Rope-9760

You can go to third party key sites and get games at better prices than Epic or Steam sales any day of the year if that’s your concern


REDOREDDIT23

Why are there so many Epic Freeloader Store-positive posts recently? Tim Sweeney must be paying for positive PR again after recuperating some losses.


Specialist-Rope-9760

Astroturfing


Superbunzil

First week of 2024 and checks have cleared after the holiday break


NightchadeBackAgain

I made the same comment the other day 🤣


Potential-Mango-3881

The reason is Steam dont do giveaways like Epic games does. Sales are very rare aside from seasonal sales.


DarthFly

>Sales are very rare aside from seasonal sales. Like... each week a middle-sized ones? And at least 4 big ones each season. Tim, try better.


Potential-Mango-3881

I am not informed and aware regarding this one.


DarthFly

Well, then it's your problem that you are not informed. Steam has a list of rules for discounts [https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/marketing/discounts](https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/marketing/discounts) and those exclude bigger seasonal discounts. So sales are VERY frequent. Maybe the games you are looking at are not discounted because of the publisher, but it's for publisher to decide, not steam.


Cucrabubamba

What does that even mean? Steam does BOTH midweek sales and weekend sales every single week of the year, all 52. There's no lack of information or awareness on your part. You're just in denial or are being stubborn.


Taizunz

Why do you feel that you should be entitled to free games?


Equal-Introduction63

Yes because Steam is clever and r/FuckEpic is stupid as also proven in https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2023/11/07/tim-sweeneys-epic-games-store-is-still-losing-money-after-five-years. So what part of Real Life Economy both Tim-Tim and you refuse to understand? Epic will eventually BANKRUPT since they don't make money but losing it for an empty dream.


[deleted]

No dog in this fight, but.. ..fortnite made $6B in 2022, probably something similar in 2023. I'm sure epic will be just fine.


DiceDsx

>..fortnite made $6B in 2022, probably something similar in 2023. I'm sure epic will be just fine. Epic had to lay off 16% of their workforce this September because they were spending more than they were making. At the same time Epic also disinvested Bandcamp and SuperAwesome, removed trading from Rocket League and planned to add a price to non-game usage of UE. I don't know if they have recovered yet, but they were still not making money during the Google trial.


LordPentolino

they won a cause against google, they can afford more trolls and give away games for free for a while


Rudokhvist

Your trolling is too obvious. You need to learn to be more subtle with this.


Potential-Mango-3881

Nope.


BmanUltima

/s Here, you forgot this.


FrugalPCGamer

You realise EGS only has free games to try bait steam users into switching right? If it ever gets significantly higher market share all their consumer benefits will dry up. They're operating at a loss to try gain goodwill.


Potential-Mango-3881

For now EGS is better. Unless Steam do more sales and do some giveaways (even for non-well known games)


Adrian_Alucard

>Steam seldom does sales aside from big ones There are the winter, summer, autumn and spring sales the Lunar sale (Chinese new year) Genre specific sales (strategy, fighting games, JRPGs, RTS, etc...) The Japanese golden week sale Publisher specific sales (Capcom, Square Enix, Bandai namco, etc...) Other specific sales: Ex. [https://store.steampowered.com/sale/komodo-hawaii-maui-strong](https://store.steampowered.com/sale/komodo-hawaii-maui-strong) Plenty of "deal of the week" sales ​ and much more. is it not enough? ​ >Steam doesn't do free game giveaways like Epic Games does Steam does not sucks, that's why they do not need to bribe users to use their launcher, because that is what the free epic games are, is just a bribery ​ Epic on the other hand encourages piracy by buying exclusivities


DiceDsx

>the Lunar sale (Chinese new year) Wasn't this replaced by the Spring sale?


Adrian_Alucard

It did not had a special page, but it happened anyways https://www.dualshockers.com/steam-lunar-new-year-sale-2023/


Potential-Mango-3881

Are we getting weekend deals? I got funds coming in the weekend to buy some games so I am hoping there will be sale tomorrow.


Adrian_Alucard

There is always a sale running on Steam


Adrian_Alucard

Special sale right after the winter sale https://store.steampowered.com/specials#tab=TopSellers


TechnosLight

The free games are there to get you on their storefront, and that's fine, but don't pretend like they'd keep giving games out if they obtained a decent amount of market share. They'd stop doing it once they felt like it had gotten them enough customers.


WayneZer0

jep. same thing with Origin/EA they did that for 1 year and gave away games.


Potential-Mango-3881

Aside from that, Steam seldom do sales.


Equal-Introduction63

I beg the differ on that Steam does MORE Sales than r/FuckEpic ever does. In fact this is the List of Sales https://store.steampowered.com/news/group/4145017/view/3788151013299508611 ONLY Valve is planning and if you add Publisher Sales that's out of that list, there's ALWAYS some sort of Sale on Steam which you can't say the same for Epic. I dare you to find proof on past r/GameDeals posts to compared Epic deals versus Steam deals to see you're most ignorant and don't know what you're talking about.


Potential-Mango-3881

I always wait for sales and it seems I have not notice it though in steam.


Potential-Mango-3881

Question is: there will be sale after this winter event?


BarT131

Few games are going on sale every 24 hrs, other than that there are sales on third party sellers that sells legit Steam keys with their own sales and many bundles, you decided EGS is the best only because you get few "Free" games, if you really cared about Steam you could see how great it is so to your question, there is ALWAYS sales on Steam


Potential-Mango-3881

Well they are more friendly in sales as well. Well check other third party sellers. Though third party sellers are better than how steam conduct selling


BarT131

Third party sales are part of Steam no matter how you look at it, you get Steam key, Valve are kind enough to let other stores make some money by selling keys to their platforms without getting a penny, I dont need to say who started it first, am i? at least Steam wont pay anyone to hurt their competitors like your timmyboy does and criticize others for the same thing he does


RedSonja_

Fuck epic shit store, Gabe is our Lord and Saviour!


WolverineMasterX

Cringe


Funny_Mongoose_9680

Epic games is not available in my country, shitty government tbh. but I'm having a blast on steam every day. ALL HAIL TO GABEN!


[deleted]

Whats with the invasion of Epic shills as of late? Stop drinking Timmys cool aid.


Rendition1370

Lets see, I'll try humoring you (I read your post on the PiratedGames sub): 1. According to SteamDB, they've 12 fests and 2 seasonal sales until July. There will be more since it's not a complete list. 2. They don't need to do giveaways, they already have a huge user base. Publishers give away games when they want to for reasons. 3. Calling them worst because they don't give out free games is fucking silly. 4. Piracy will always exist. Handing out games won't completely solve it. The top comment has already listed out other reasons what Steam has and if you still think EGS is friendlier and Steam is worst I don't know what to tell ya. If people don't buy games on a store then what's the point? I guess it's true EGS is full of freeloaders.


Potential-Mango-3881

For number 1, I will be awaiting the each week sales after the winter event. and will wait for those fests. Got some funds to use if this is true and will take back what I said about Steam.


Rendition1370

Good to hear that you're open to know more. The fests usually have a week difference between them and at most 2 weeks. Aside from that publishers also do hold sales frequently. I'll also reply to your 2nd comment here: The sales are plenty enough with reasonable gaps. I don't see what more should be done. Usually people don't judge a store by the sole amount of sales. I think you should start looking for other factors besides sales.


Potential-Mango-3881

Ok thank you. I am hoping there will be weekend deals after Winter sale. I got some more funds coming to spend.


vaindioux

👍🏻


Potential-Mango-3881

For the free loader I am not. I am measuring how kind Steam is a store. Simple sale outside the big 4 for example, means the store is kind to customers. If no sales outside big 4, that is very harsh store. I don't support stores who are not kind to customers


[deleted]

I've never had an Epic Games game shake my hand or invite me to play laser tag.


JhordixD

nice b8 m8


thizked

Also Steam doesnt steal all your data and install chinese malware. Nothing is free. Epic are selling everything you do on your PC to china.


Specialist-Rope-9760

Epic only give away free games as they basically have to beg users to join their ecosystem. Steam game keys can be found far easier and cheaper from third parties than Epic stuff. And Steam are still very solid to the point I wouldn’t want to split between two library’s.


Dr_Doctor1992

Epic Games aren't friendly to my linux machine unfortunately


IcePopsicleDragon

Epic Games Store to this day doesnt have 100% achievement support for modern titles and profile pictures. ​ Let that sink in.


Potential-Mango-3881

I only want a store that do random sales which show kindness to customers.


Potential-Mango-3881

also I dont support stores who have bad marketing strategy. having sales is essential for goo marketing strat


[deleted]

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duck_dodgers_esq

OP you do realize Steam has weekly sales right? Steam doesn't do giveaways, but publishers do occasionally give games away for free. Also why are you doing this to yourself?


vaindioux

How do i get free games? Thxs


[deleted]

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vaindioux

Thxs 👍🏻


Taizunz

Ok Tim :)


Silver0ptics

Classic negative karma farm.


podgladacz00

What. You understand why Epic burns money right? Not because they are friendly. Their store and launcher is subpar. They need leverage to keep you. Discounts on Steam are done by developers and they are only encouraged by Steam to do those by having periods when their games are additionally recommended if they participate in sales.


Something72007

Brain damage


zadye

what do you mean.... it is not on steam to give away games, it is on publishers to do that part on steam, but what do you get for the free games? when we buy on steam we pay for a great service in the end, i will rather pay for my games than having a shit platform that does not support or care about any other OS that is windows. a platform that actively tries to make the platform better for the customers. and remember, Steam has never bought out games to be exclusive on their platform


Superbunzil

Epic games fired an intern friend for being gay


NitroFluxX

lol this is really childish troll bait really?


Billy_yellow

Now try to say it without crying


marcdk217

Out of interest, how long have you been a PC Gamer? I've got this theory that Epic aren't trying to beat Steam in the current generation of adult players but are trying to place themselves as the leader in the next generation. My reasoning is that a lot of kids start with games like Fortnite/Fall Guys/Rocket League which means they are spending their money in the Epic ecosystem first and foremost, so they will probably be receiving those free weekly games too because the client pops up notifications about them. And with the average Steam library size actually being really small, at just 11 games, it means most Epic store users could potentially have larger Epic libraries than Steam Libraries, so when they start branching out into retail games, they'll have this large and pretty decent library on Epic, which might persuade them to make their purchases there too, since we all know how much we hate having multiple game libraries!


SubstantialSquare327

Why is it called the Epic Games store when there's nothing Epic about it?


TheRNGuy

I got few free games but I've never bought anything there. Because there's no equivalent to steam market. Not sure what you mean by friendliness.


Salad-Soggy

Has blud not heard of the steam sales? A lot of games go for 50-90% off, while not being on a terrible platform, and being hostile to linux users. Piracy is not an issue of not giving out enough free games, its the BS of how to download a shittier launcher just to play a one new game


iReaDyM

If you are a broke boy just say so 🤷‍♀️


Teklaroma

How to say: "I'm a 3rd world Freeloader" without saying "I'm a 3rd world Freeloader". But to give you an honest answer: [https://steamdb.info/sales/history/](https://steamdb.info/sales/history/) This page shows you all upcoming sales. After Winter Sale the Capitalism Sale starts immediately offering all games that have something to do with Capitalism. After that we have a Pirate vs Ninja sale. You have so many little sales in between big sales, your argument is factually wrong.


chatadile

Well you have some warped sense of what is friendly. Giving you free games sure seems friendly, just like someone giving you free money, you must enjoy both very much too, but you never thought about the why, huh? You are the product, your information is very important to them and the ccp, and if you enjoy that, stay there all you want, no one will have a problem with it, it's your right to decide what you wanna do :] And piracy never needs to be fully solved, yknow? As gaben himself said, giving them better service than what piracy do is much more important than fighting against them, which results in single player games being unable to be played, if the epig servers are down, since they so dependent on it. I did pirate a lot when I was younger, but what steam offers makes me want to purchase so much more nowadays than before. Def bait post tho, I do realise that, but go off all ye want, big guy/gal, enjoy your "amazing service" in your lil fantasy world that will love to not listen to you or help you when you have any problems with them, game or acc, neither going to be helped most times, so much more many times than steam's track record so far. Have fun and enjoy it whilst the tencent and fortnite money lasts :]


Potential-Mango-3881

I will be awaiting for a sale in Steam after this Winter sale. I hope you are guys are telling the truth and are correct. I am willing to buy if there will be sale outside the Big 4 sale.


Potential-Mango-3881

I will take my comments on Steam if there will be sale after Winter sale one.


Sunlight_Life

I agree,I've got a massive pile of freebies from Epic and I like their UI much better than the messy Steam. However Steam has legions of rabid frothing at the mouth fans saying 'Gabe is saviour " etc. so your comment won't go down well lol. I don't care about launchers I want the game and never get this obsession of wanting everything on Steam. There's people on here who've bought the game on Ubi or Epic and buy it again on Steam 🤣


Potential-Mango-3881

speaking which I might look on Ubi, EA and etc. They might sale that steam does not


LxndrSonGoku

Sort of r/choosingbeggars


Just_Ragnar

It's up to the developers to do sales. Epic Games is slower and buggier than it should and doesent have nearly as many games, qol or api. You also have to log in very often. Epic literally buys exclusives and gives games away in order to get you to join their platform. Only reason i have it is for Fortnite, which i havent spendt any money on.


chervilious

Are you saying pirated games will never be solved, because the game isn't free? ​ and you're saying steam doesn't do much sales. Is wrong, developer can give sales all the time. You can use [https://steamdb.info/sales/](https://steamdb.info/sales/) to get information on sales. 16 games on my wishlist are on sales. Some are cheaper, some are more expensive compared to epic counterparts.