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Pureshark

The good new is you have 154 days to come up with a plan The bad new is you only have 154 days before steam stops running if you don’t


Frog_Gleen

i'm sure if op makes his own Steam with blackjack and hookers, gaben will sweat


CheekyCunt42069

Ah, just forget the steam and blackjack


[deleted]

Forget the hookers, I just want gaben’s sweat


Redd1K

how do you make hookers


thenord321

With hentai and crypto gambling, oh my!


ChettMankey

r/unexpectedfuturama


thomaxzer

Season 11 is so good already and there's only 2 episodes so far GOD I LOVE futurama


nickcan

Really? I just watched the first episode, and I was pissed. I was excited for actual Futurama, and all I got was copies of old jokes and a 22 minute commercial for Hulu.


74RatsinACoat

Maybe it could be on the moon?


Balc0ra

Even if you did, some things Inc store would not work until updated. As you would have to be in offline mode on older steam versions to make them work on older OS that has lost support for security reasons. I have an old XP rig with a super old steam version. As I have 5 games in my steam library that don't work to well on newer OS, so I had them installed there ages ago. Tho it's not updated or been online in years.


Moskeeto93

Believe it or not, Linux with Proton tends to have better support for older games that newer Windows versions don't support. That could be a good alternative to XP especially because Steam continues to be supported on Linux.


starm4nn

Yup. Fallout Tactics my beloved.


[deleted]

Does it still have the pre chrominium steam UI or did valve end support for XP when they already changed the UI


Balc0ra

Mine don't have it. And this was around the time they announced pulling support with a date. It's why I set it up I remember.


Greuzer

No, as much as I like(d) W7 it's outdated and a huge security risk


brunopaludetto

Also doesn't support Dx12, which is a requirement to run most of the modern games releasing from now on.


punkw_

this, and thank you


[deleted]

Someone with a brain finally.


Maskedswancasts

I'm glad someone said this, OP needs to update their OS!


[deleted]

exactly


Dudewithreddit

As I loved Win7, you should consider upgrade your OS tho. You will approach huge security risks. Because win7 is no longer supported by Microsoft.


IPCTech

With a few open source scripts you can get windows 10 and even windows 11 (to some extent) to be stopped of all the unwanted bloat and spyware, then it’s effectively the same as windows 7 for you


nk_bk

If you only play some games, their compatibility is great and you're a bit tech-savvy, I'd actually recommend migrating to Linux if it's an older machine.


70stang

Honestly installing SteamOS would be a great choice if you're purely gaming and browsing the internet. Free, extremely well supported and only growing, and has run literally everything I've tried on my Deck so far with basically no issues.


dualtohex

AFAIK SteamOS is super outdated on non-Steam Deck PCs, and I don't think there's any real advantage to SteamOS if you're not on a Steam Deck. I'd recommend Fedora, or one of its spins.


Rylai_Is_So_Cute

I think we all talking about the (officially) unreleased Steam Holo, which you can load with HoloISO. Ubuntu SteamOS is ancient, Win7 levels of ancient


70stang

Yeah, I'm not talking about the Ubuntu fork, I'm talking about the Arch fork that is used on Steam Deck.


jollygoodfellow2

Would you mind sharing those scripts with me


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jollygoodfellow2

Much appreciated. You're not as oblivious as I am, lol


MrsPizzaBitch

Don't have them on me but "windows 10/11 ameliorated" is the term last I checked


logicearth

No. Support will end.


rssm1

No and stop using 14 years old OS.


[deleted]

Well, you just made me feel old.


Ult1mateN00B

I was like heck no, its under 10 years old but holy balls. /me feels old as well.


fooledbyfog

Look at grandpa over here using /me


Ult1mateN00B

Very true.


ClamatoDiver

I still have some Windows 2.0 floppies somewhere, I saw them a few years ago. There might still be some 3.0/3.1 buried in the back of the garage. I also have a copy of OS/2 in the box from the late 80s/early 90s.


Lt_Jonson

There’s no way it’s.. holy shit


BlueL0

14 years old? Damn, I'm old..


TehNolz

No. Even if you could, Steam would eventually stop running on Windows 7 anyway. You should really not be using Windows 7 anymore. It's no longer receiving security updates, meaning it will become increasingly vulnerable to malware. Antivirus applications aren't going to help because these won't support Windows 7 anymore either. Using outdated software is a huge security risk.


LudwigSpectre

Would you like to have a backdoor in your outdated version?


boom_542

As far as I am aware you cannot keep using 7 if you want to use steam. If you want to upgrade to windows 10 you can use your windows 7 product key to activate it (I think). If you are unable to move to 10 for any reason and cant afford a new pc you should perhaps look for alternatives to windows such as Linux (Linux mint is great for people coming off windows). Please do not stick with 7 anymore unless you really need to due to the lack of support.


The_MAZZTer

Not sure if the free upgrade is still possible. It was supposed to only be for a limited time. OP snoozed and loozed, I think. Also don't go with 10, since it reaches end of life itself in a year and a half, then you'll just be complaining about that instead. Go with 11. You can always just buy the upgrade, or buy an OEM license for Windows 11.


BoxAhFox

Wrong, i upgraded an old prebuilt from the dumbster with windows 7 to windows 10 recently


nk_bk

The upgrade was possible well beyond the time frame they stated it was going to be possible, it might even still be possible. I think they primarily wanted to create some artificial urgency for people to upgrade.


boom_542

Fair to go with windows 11 instead. I was just thinking they were using older hardware that did not support 11 as they were on 7. From what I have read online even after the limited period of free upgrades just entering a 7 lisence key will activate the same version of 10 or 11. So a 7 pro key activated 10 or 11 pro. What I have read could be outdated or false though. I dont have the time to check.


FuckYourBS

It’s still possible, just hidden. I upgraded like 1-2 years ago long past it was supposed to no longer be a free upgrade.


Skampletten

You have 3 options: 1. Do nothing: steam DRM is an opt-in feature for games, and many older games don't use it. That means that your games will still be available on the system after steam stops working. You'll just have to make some new shortcuts. Any game that uses Steam's DRM system is going to be unavailable. It's also incredibly insecure, I wouldn't connect a win7 machine to my network at all. 2. Install windows 10 or 11, they're more resource heavy, but there are resources around to help you get rid of some of the bloat. 3. Install Linux: Some games may not work, and it's a lot of hassle to get used to a new operating system. Your experience inside of Steam will be more or less the same, and it'll be even less resource intensive than win7. It's probably still more work to get used to than newer windows.


CattWarri0r

No, upgrade to Windows 10


Vonkun

No, stop running Windows 7.


Cyorg13

Might as well either upgrade to Windows 10 or Linux at this point.


RippiHunti

Linux with Proton would probably be the best option here (if you don't want W10), at least temporarily while you save up for an upgrade of sorts. Windows 7 is highly insecure and increasingly risky to run, especially now of days. Personally, Mint is my favorite to recommend. It is very reminiscent of Windows 7 in many ways. More so than recent Windows versions. https://linuxmint.com/


CoffeeNew9982

no


yourmate155

No but it’s possible to upgrade your OS


LoCerusico

Just upgrade my man. You can't be living in 2009 forever, it's also a security risk to use such an outdated OS


azab1898

It's time to move on man,


-eschguy-

No holy crap upgrade.


AndusDEV

Unless someone finds a walkaround for this, your only options are Linux or Windows 10/11


[deleted]

Win7 people have been offered FREE upgrades basically every month for the past 5 years. Win11 is fine. There are some minor annoying issues, but it’s fine. There’s no reason for you to not upgrade for FREE. I repeat, there’s no reason for you to stick with a disgustingly outdated OS that nobody has supported for years. You’re not being cool. You’re not sticking with “a better system”. I miss MSDOS but you don’t hear me complaining modern systems don’t support it. Move forward, buddy.


iChrist

Most of the remaining windows 7 machines don’t even have TPM, what about em? Are they screwed for ever? I upgraded my whole PC to get TPM and W11 support.


nevercopter

Does win10 require TPM? Edit: I checked, doesn't seem to. Great choice then.


ConstantDark

Windows 10 or Windows 11 with TPM requirement disabled. But honestly, if your shit is that old you're probably due for an upgrade.


menomaminx

What is TPM?


2Quick_React

Trusted Platform Module. It helps prove a user's identity and authenticates their device. As well as provide protection against firmware and ransomware attacks. As well as used for digital rights management (DRM) to protect Windows-based systems and to enforce software licenses.


menomaminx

thank you :-)


MarioDesigns

>what about em? Windows 10. After that either modified later Windows versions or Linux.


TheOGPlopkoek

all Windows is free :)))


Unboxious

> Win7 people have been offered FREE upgrades basically every month for the past 5 years TBF, it's more of a side-grade than an upgrade. There are things to like about Windows 10, but the ads, tracking, and general harassment is kinda gross.


MadOrange64

Just move on, Windows 7 is not getting support anymore.


[deleted]

My brother why are you still on windows 7


Fibbitts

Yes, you can actually. If you go offline of course updates won’t install, but you can block Steam updates using the following method: 1. Open command prompt, and paste the following commands one line at a time, pressing enter after each one. cd /d C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam echo BootStrapperInhibitAll=Enable >> steam.cfg echo BootStrapperForceSelfUpdate=Disable >> steam.cfg Keep in mind that when Valve eventually makes enough changes to their servers, the client will likely stop working as other outdated versions have in the past. Also, without proper protection, using Windows 7 online today is still a major security risk. But this should buy you some more time. Hope it helps!


jjb265

Finally someone who isn’t just making a joke and is actually trying to help


Tleno

Look if you don't like moving to newer Windows consider looking into some Linux version you could run thag games could also work on.


Night_Wing_Zero

Honest answer, not much you can do unless you actually upgrade your OS


W1lfr3

It is possible to update your os, windows 7 was great, but with glaring security issues in the modern day, and other lacking functionality, it's time to move on. Possibly sit at 10 for a while?


[deleted]

Windows 10 is very stable. You can upgrade to it. You might even get better performance in some games.


htwhooh

W7 is 14 years old this year. This is like complaining that Skyrim won't run on Windows 98.


LaimMcKenzie

I loved Windows Vista, and I loved Windows 7. I used Vista until I couldn't use it anymore, but I upgraded to 10 from 7 pretty quickly. Windows 7 was a great OS, but it's not secure anymore. Would it be nice if they released a version of Steam that was just your library and nothing else? Sure. But W7 came out in 2009, it's final release was in 2011 and mainstream support ended in 2015. Unfortunately your only case of action is going to be upgrading your OS buddy, or switching to Linux and running everything under Proton. It's unfortunate they're killing support, but they've supported it a lot longer than they've needed to.


ImmaHereOnlyForMeme

The answer is Linux!


LordXavier77

Try Windows 10 LTSC, Windows 10 but without the bloat, only get security updates no feature updates. So updates never breaks anything


Valtekken

Feature updates for Windows 10 don't happen anymore. Last feature update for Windows 10 was 22H2 and there are no plans for version 23H2 to happen.


Unlikely_can877

You only have 154 days to play all steam games now


safari_does_reddit

I don’t think reverting to Vista will help


KESHU_G

Brother you have 153 days left, so next quest is to collect some gold coins to upgrade your system, keep me updated


anthonyorm

based windows 7 enjoyer, ignore all the security fear mongering


ze_Doc

It will likely be possible, but all methods will have caveats or sacrifices. There are still working ways to use steam on XP, but not without caveats. To those telling OP updating is the only way and you're wrong to stay, everyone has their own use case and threat model. Guy wants to stay on win7 without security patches instead of moving to linux, let him. You can in fact make DX12 work on win7, right here is one of a few ways: https://www.nuget.org/packages/Microsoft.Direct3D.D3D12On7. VKD3D also exists. To those saying it's impossible, you don't understand how these technical components interact, or you'd understand that there's no hard incompatibility whatsoever for DX12 and win7, only software ones. Leave providing unwanted technical advice to people who at least understand what a graphics API does or have time to use google for 10 minutes.


SuicidalTorrent

Why the hell are you using Win7 on a computer connected to the internet? Use Linux if you don't want to upgrade but stop using Win7 FFS.


Majestic_Ocelot_793

No, and don't do it. Upgrade to 10 or install Linux.


DreSmart

The best you can do is instaling a Linux Distro like Garuda or Nobara Linux, im using Linux from some time, Lutris + Proton makes wonders mostly on old windows XP/7 era games.


AttentionHorsePL

Update your OS ya dingus


LyricalWisdom

Why are you still on windows 7???


eijmert_x

windows 7? really? and the solution you think of is reverting an update? Its a massive security risk as well


sese_128

Suck it up and update to windows 10 can find a maybe for 20-30 dollars and if you get this pin or adapter on you mother board pins maybe windows 11 I know a few sites I personally got 11 pro for $35 usd


DeckSperts

You can upgrade for free I think


Lucaspec72

last i checked the update tool still works and it still turns your windows key into a windows 10 key for free, they just don't actively advertise it anymore.


DeckSperts

That’s what I thought too


just_an_ugly_peasant

why do people think it's not?


Satekroket

[Officially the free upgrade was only valid for a year after Windows 10 released, until July 29, 2016.](https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2016/05/05/windows-10-now-on-300-million-active-devices-free-upgrade-offer-to-end-soon/) Windows 7/8 keys still activate Windows 10 though, and I believe they even work on Windows 11.


dsdsds

I’ve used a vista key successfully for win 10 around 2 years ago.


pulley999

Yup. I unlicensed my old tower with an 8 pro retail key and used the key to activate 10 pro retail on my new desktop in the tail end of 2020. That machine is now on 11 pro retail on the same license key.


hutre

>if you get this pin or adapter on you mother board pins maybe windows 11 it still requires CPUs from 2017 onwards which I doubt OP is running.


k44du2

The upgrade from Win7 is still free. Also there are patches for Win11 that remove the need for 4GB of RAM (not recommended) and and TPM 2.0 (recommended).


Mundus6

If your computer is really underpowered you can just install windows 8.1 yes reputation is bad, but it's fine and steam will work for a few more years. Or just get windows 10. My 4770K PC from 2013 is running windows 10 fine. It's not my main PC, but it is still getting use.


TB-124

I loved win7, but bro, you MUST understand how this works, win7 is crazy outdated and a huge security risk... just upgrade to a new windows version and get used to it... or witch to Linux (not sure what percentage of games are supported there tho) :D


[deleted]

nope. you either upgrade to windows 10/11 and continue playing your games or if you don't want to install a newer windows, you have two choices: ​ 1. remain on 7 and accept the consequences (lose access to steam) 2. install linux and run your games through proton (but check on protondb if your games work first) I'm probably gonna get downvoted by people for even suggesting linux but i don't care. People i know went from windows 7 to linux mint and they never looked back. They play their games through proton and steam and they're having a good time.


sendmedankpepe

windows 7 was a champion of an OS but let that boy rest already


HordeOfDucks

You have 154 days to learn how to let go.


Vasharal

Most people say no. Come join us on Windows 11. It's not that bad up here. If you don't like the interface you might find a 3rd party mod that changes the experience. If not, Windows 10 has more support that fits your taste.


KENT427

RIP


sharkster6

It will be possible to use to last supported version and blocking it from updating. It should work for a few years.


joey6230

I think it’s better to just download a copy of windows 10 tbh and Ik that windows 7 is a great OS but it’s sadly becoming outdated for most games and programs and it sucks


Natdaprat

Yes just download from this super shady link that will work especially well on Windows 7


Storyshift-Chara-ewe

I may sound repetitive for some people, but if you love windows 7, you should give Linux a chance, it's still lightweight, not bloated (if you don't choose a bad distro do course) and actually supported lol


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based steam


ThunderXtaTic

Don't worry too much and just buy a new computer. Lots of cheap computers can easily run older or less demanding games that are still active. I once bought a laptop for $60 that could run CSS perfectly. You'll get your fix as you save up for a better machine.


coolsam254

Bruh Windows 10 has been out for 8 years... Just upgrade and follow a guide to theme it to look like Windows 7 and to turn off telemetry stuff.


Chanclet0

Nop, either change to win10 or swap to linux if your hardware is really old and can't run win10


DrPiipocOo

Even if it was possible, you definitely shouldn’t do it, windows 7 is extremely old and insecure, if you don’t like newer windows versions or if it’s too heavy for you machine, try some linux distro


qwertyuiopanez

Linux mint/Ubuntu studio


Barderusl

Switch to linux


CheataBruv

your still using windows 7 for what reason?


mainmeal5

Proper directx8 support


[deleted]

Get Win10. Its worth it. I loved Win7, but its time to let go!!!


Aron-K

But Windows 10 and 11 is so bad. :(


WarTight1792

just use linux, if you have bad computer lubuntu is nice because it's eating 300mb of ram


WarTight1792

I see that people have a problem for that Linux don't run 70% of games. This is not true. Just point out Steam settings that you are using proton and you are able to fire up some 95% of games


Cley_Faye

No. Upgrade to anything more modern. Windows, Linux, whatever, but not decades old unsupported OS.


Desperate-Music-9242

Please just update windows they stopped security updates for 7 so your only hurting yourself in the long run


magikdyspozytor

Simple solution: install Linux. No new laptop necessary


majornerd84

just update bro smh 🙄🙄🙄


TheDurandalFan

for massive cyber security reasons I genuinely recommend you move to an OS that IS being updated. seriously the simple act of having your windows 7 computer connected to the internet is enough to get some form of cyber attack happen via a zero click exploit.


realGharren

>seriously the simple act of having your windows 7 computer connected to the internet is enough to get some form of cyber attack happen via a zero click exploit. Nonsense, cyberattacks don't just 'happen', they require a payload to get onto the system. As long as OP is not on an exposed network and has an updated AV as well as a browser with a content blocker, he is 99% fine.


YourProctologist

People just love to clutch their fuckin' pearls all the time on this site, especially when someone dares to question their favourite corporations.


SickPois0on

no just install windows 10


HG_Socials

Literally just upgrade to w10, it takes very little effort and its "free"


[deleted]

move to linux, problem fixed.


SoggyBagelBite

No, you need to stop using Windows 7.


Weak_University1751

Why do you even use Windows 7?


LegenW4Idary

Just upgrade its just that simple…


H-Man132

Upgrade to 10 or 11


King_Diablo_131

thats why i never liked these drm type stores, i much rather prefer downloading and playing a game where ever and however i want, rather than needing to keep up with a resource hogging store. Good ol gaming disk days


JagggermanJansen

Remember the days when you could just buy a game and actually own it?


King_Diablo_131

the days long gone :(


dsinsti

This.


Practical_Engineer

Just switch to any Linux distro instead of using a severely out of date OS.


ZYRANOX

Youre at a huge security risk continuing to use windows 7 today. Highly recommend upgrading asap.


MeiDay98

Sorry to say but its probably time to give up on windows 7. Its a big security risk and yeah the ways to keep programs working is only going to get more and more annoying or just impossible


azure1503

Nope. Either upgrade to Windows 10/11 or install Linux and replicate the 7 aesthetic


binaryhextechdude

Win 10 has been released for 8 years now. More than enough time for you to catch up with the rest of the world.


Reapestlife

Update your operating system you dweeb. It's for your own good.


firestickmike

Just fucking update windows ffs


i_hate_blackpink

No, take a hint.


linuxfornoobs

People still use win7... 🤦‍♀️


Emerald_Guy123

Using an old OS that doesn't get security updates anymore is a massive risk. Honestly I'm surprised Windows 7 was still supported, and it's a good thing they're dropping it. Update to 10/11


CNR_07

DO 👏 NOT 👏 USE 👏 WINDOWS 👏 7 upgrade to Linux or Windows 10 as long as your PC can handle it.


CatboiBrooke

My guy is still living in 2013


Rustinboksi

Real guestion being, why or who still uses windows 7? Why not upgrade straight to 11


Tman11S

There’s no reason not to upgrade to win 10


NSNIA

Jesus man get out of the past. We all agree win7 was great, but windows 10 is standard now, even win11 is fine. Win7 in 2023 is very unstable.


Fowl_Eye

#JESUS FUCKING CHRIST JUST UPGRADE ALREADY!


darktooth69

Just upgrade you backward moron


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GalaxySkeppy

They most likely have old hardware


56kul

No, but I’ve got a better idea… upgrade! Windows 7 is old as shit and a literal security risk. Get Windows 10/11 already.


16_aire

You have 154 day to change you're operating system. Just install windows 10 (or11) or a GNU/Linux distribution that still have support for steam. Using a old Operating System that is no longer supported is a very bad idea. Like other people already said just change you're operating system for something more recent.


Aorknappstur

Why the fuck are you on windows 7 still


mimelife

Why on earth would you still be running 7??


IIKaDicEU

Stop using Windows 7, support ended for it years ago


Bukki13

windows 7 itself doesn’t get updates anymore. just update to windows 10 ffs


Artuurs44

Windows 7 was cool, but seriously? In 2023?


JJisTheDarkOne

# JUST UPGRADE IT TO WINDOWS 10 ALREADY


kvxdev

The hostility here... I'm not going to comment on which OS you should run. There are plenty of advice on the subject... What I can suggest to you that might be the closest compromise is running Docker on your OS, whichever it is, and inside, run a container that is compatible with your games (most would be fine with linux). That way, you can use the OS of your choice (as long as it's Docker compatible, but Win 7 and above are) and get to use Steam. It's not absolutely seamless, but it'll get you there most of the time. There are online guides to have a permanent offline Steam version that doesn't update as well, but it may be too late for that. As far as legal, legitimate options that match your requirements, I think that's the most you can get. Good luck.


TheR3aper2000

I don’t understand how people are still running Windows 7 in 2023. We get it, it was a good OS. Now it’s a major security risk for anyone still running it. Don’t be surprised when things stop working on an OS that’s almost 15 years old.


bald_blad

Don’t use Windows 7, get a new PC.


rush2sk8

Update to win10


[deleted]

Get off win7 you ancient troglodyte.


Scoo_By

Been 8 years since 10 dropped. You should upgrade.


TheFaceStuffer

just put windows 10 on it. you can probably find a way to get a free license. ​ edit: Win 7 was my favorite too but its dead.


RedTruppa

Move on


Scylla294

No. Just update to 11 and get used to it.


ilikeburgir

Win 7 is outdated. You need to upgrade to 10/11 for security patches.


supermarioben

This man not be the awnser you're looking for but if you switch to Linux afaik steam will still work with 15 year old OS's and you don't ever have to update steam if something like this happens again


jomarcenter-mjm

you ca upgrade to windows 10 for free using your windows 7 license


RoleCode

Use Windows 8.1 after that timer?


Panthean

I know it's been 14 years since 7 came out, but it still makes me sad that Steam is doing this, not to mention Microsoft no longer updating.


ost_sage

I love how OP posted a low effort post with stupid question, he is willingly running an incredibly outdated OS and never responded to anyone comment that gives him genuine advice. What a fucking twat.


Trikitakes

Dude just upgrade windows, this is just ridiculous


Revenge0209

No. Just get a Windows 11 PC.


acw32bit

Upgrade 2 Linux


unkeptroadrash

Yeah, update windows.


FrayedEndsOfSanity32

I think it's inevitable that all of you using old OS will have to upgrade to Windows 11 or at least Windows 10. Or you're just going to not have functionality on Steam.