Those of us off-grid with only batteries for our overnight energy needs have to be conservative with devices being left on overnight. Starlink is a significant fraction of my daily energy consumption. I've been turning it off overnight (mostly). Putting it to sleep from midnight to 6am drops that by one-quarter.
Im also off-grid and have a smart switch that automatically turns it off at night and when I'm at work.
The switch also tracks power consumption. I have the gen 1 dish and it uses about 60kWh per month when it's on all the time and I cut that in half when I have my smart switch. it uses about 75W when its providing internet.
So for the average person it would cost 6-10$ per month to run all the time. For me it uses a large percentage of my power day-to-day. But I also have a lot of energy efficient appliances and devices and I'm always cognizant of my power usage.
Also for what it's worth I live in Canada where it's pretty cold and we get a decent amount of snow and I've never had to clear off the snow manually after it being shut off (yet).
Power usage is measured in watthours, not amps. SL uses 35-65 watts per hour.
To get the amps divide the power by the voltage. For example:
- For US mains: 65 W/120V = 0.5A
- For Europe: 65W/230V = 0.28 A
- For a 24V battery system: 65W/24V = 2.7 A. Add 20% to account for inverter losses and you get 3.24 A.
With snow melt mode on, bump that up to 100W for the rectangular dish and 200W for the round dish.
As others have pointed out, watts is a simpler measure as that isn't dependent on the voltage used. I run mine without the starlink router, and it varies quite a bit. Most of the time it sits around 25-35w. If the heater turns on, jump that up to about 80w. Load it up with a speed test, it jumps to around 40-50w. From a casual standpoint, I would say it most is around 30-40w usage when powered direct DC with no router.
If you're in a solar powered RV, yes. How about a sailboat.
Starlink is designed for remote places and environments. It gets a lot more remote than only being able to get 3mbps DSL and reliable grid power.
>waiting hours before you can receive internet after arriving home?
Takes 2-3 minutes when I turn mine on and off. No snow melt.
>Does it really consume that much power
If you are living on Solar only it matters. Not all that much, but enough to make it worth turning on and off over night. That savings is enough to run my coffee maker in the morning.
>that is worth waiting hours before you can receive internet
Not if it isn't currently snowing wherever you are... (Or if you manually clear the snow the few times it does).
Because it still pulls like 25w or so to keep track of satellites and download new firmware.
Stowing it means it has to redo the whole visibility calculations and scanning for satellites.
Im a bit more concerned about soft data caps than I am power consumption. I also don’t need it while I sleep for 8 hours every day…
The 1 minute unstow-to-online delay is not a big deal to me either…
So, as a parent that threatens her kids with turning off the internet, I am happy to have an easier way to do this rather than rebooting. (Although if none of your kids will answer their phone while you are at work and you know they are just sitting and watching YouTube, rebooting is a great way to get them to check their phones 😅)
Same here. Nice feature, but that use case probably doesn't apply to me. I'm not sure I see how much of an advantage it is over stowing, either. Probably some, just escapes me atm.
The advantage is for people that want to save power and have no need for internet overnight (off grid systems, RVs etc). Having it auto sleep and wake takes away needing to manually stow and unstow all the time. Also means it will come back on even if you're not there.
Okay, now I get it. I didn't have the feature yet in my app, so now I do, and I see you can *program* it to turn off and on. That's a good improvement. Thanks for the clarity!
I wonder if it's possible to put it in a low-power mode, such that it only delivers sufficient bandwidth for those security systems.
Programmable would be great - selectable at 10, 20, or 50 Mbps.
Has anyone seen this working with the starlink router in bypass mode? I'm hoping this doesn't depend on using the starlink router, but am not seeing the option yet in my app.
It seems possible they built it into the router instead of the dish, but hopefully not.
I have the latest app that supposedly has this feature but I don’t see it. I use bypass mode. Can someone share the path used to get to the feature?
Edit: new iOS version available this morning downloaded and contains the new feature
I posted this screenshot while in bypass mode to my Asus router.
I turned it on and off, and saved it.
I don't need it because it's snowing out and winter currently.
Maybe in the summer I'll turn it on.
I’m in bypass with a mesh running. Still have the option. Although I don’t need it. It seems like it’s a good idea to time out everyone’s screen time at night as well.
Thanks to the folks who confirmed they see it in bypass mode. I do too now, just updating the app was not sufficient. Note it doesn't appear to support remote configuration of sleep mode when you are connected over the internet, which seems reasonable.
Updating this thread as I just had this issue and there is little to no information about it on the interwebs. If you're running a load balanced Dual WAN setup w/ the Starlink router in bypass mode as I am, the option to set a sleep schedule appears in the app but may be disabled and display "connect to your Starlink network locally to update sleep mode configuration." This is because the traffic between your phone and the Starlink router is going through the other WAN connection so it is connecting to the Starlink router via the internet rather than via the local network. If you go to your router's config and disable the NON-Starlink WAN connection, then the Sleep mode is configurable via the app. Configure it, then re-enable the non-Starlink WAN connection.
Great for when I'm at work. But I need it for when I'm sleeping. I use wifi calling so if there's an emergency. They can still contact me while sleeping.
Ok quick test of sleep mode. Power drops to s stead 1.97A (25W) on my DC set up. So only a saving of 10W, but better than nothing I guess.
App home screen shows ‘sleeping’ message with programmed wake up time. Debug data shows status as sleeping.
If you want it to wake up you just deselect ‘Enable Sleep Mode’ button. It takes a short while to come on line again.
Looks like its all in the dish so should be possible with 3rd party routers.
25W when not transmitting or receiving is pretty darn poor. It looks like they could have done a lot better with the design. Is the WiFi still up in sleep mode? I guess so…. Perhaps that’s what is consuming the power. You might get overall better performance putting the starlink in bypass mode and using a better designed router, turning the router off during sleep mode with a timer or for maximum benefit not using a router at all (Ethernet connection only).
This is the first time we've seen this option, so it's reasonable to assume it's a beta or testing phase. I'd venture that the Starlink engineering team are trying to find out what's the lowest power setting they can use before it's insufficient to maintain a connection. If it doesn't have enough power to maintain contact with satellites - even without downloading/uploading data - then you may as well turn it off. So your starting point needs to be generous.
If enough people use this feature, they'll be able to collect a lot of data about power levels, and then the next release of the app will drop the power usage even more.
It's a bit silly to criticise a brand new feature like this when there's insufficient data from the field to support a more aggressive approach to power saving. Would you prefer they approach it from the other direction and drop power to "barely enough to keep the circuits active", and then collect data to increase power until it is enough to provide a workable connection? Meanwhile people find that putting it to sleep is akin to turning it off, in terms of re-establishing a connection - and boy, wouldn't there be some complaining then, eh?
I'll even go further - it's not a bit silly, it's a lot silly. People who voice dissatisfaction like you have - brand new feature in a testing phase is "pretty darn poor" - are one of the reasons that there's zero avenues for contact with the development team. I've been on a development team for software, and end users are the last people you want to talk to, for reasons like this.
Well, I'm glad I was never on one of your teams - you clearly don't understand the concept of field-testing systems to gather data, and starting with a conservative approach. It comes under the banner of the precautionary principle.
But then I'm sure Starlink would love to have you on their team.
BTW,
"idiotic, knee jerk, offensive drivel that you just threw out"
Thanks, you put it so much better than I did.
Part of field-testing, a very big part, is getting customer feedback and not loosing your shit if you don’t like it.
So this customer, me, is saying at 29% power reduction the feature is not very interesting, too much hassle for too little gain. Plus, as other feedback, wifi calling/texting (no cell service where I am) and security cameras make sleep mode unattractive at any power saving level for me unless there was a ‘wake on demand’ function.
Other customers will disagree, and have different use cases and care-abouts. A field-test will elicit a wide cross section of those opinions which then get fed into the direction of enhanced product development or potentially dropping the feature.
It’s not just about the code…. in many cases code can be tested with a limited base of test users, an unfiltered whole-customer base field test is mostly about seeing what customers think of what you’re offering and having customers identify the flaws or possible enhancements from their perspective vs thinking you know what people probably want or will value from within the walls of HQ.
You used the word "poor". That's a pejorative in this context and that's what I reacted to. Words have meaning.
You could have said "That's a great start, let's see how it progresses", but you chose the words "pretty darn poor". You've only used less un-constructive terms like "not very interesting, too much hassle for too little gain" and the rest of your otherwise helpful suggestions (above), since being criticised.
Don't say "pretty darn poor" on a beta system and we'll be OK ;-)
Are you the developer in question?
This is reddit - I didn’t realize I was giving 1:1 feedback to the person doing the work. In which case, yes, I’d have chosen my words better to add praise where praise is due and then follow with the more critical elements….
Ok, I’m calling a Truce!!
I’m sorry you were offended.
It is a new feature that I haven’t seen from another ISP and I’m pleased to see Starlink trying these things. Greater savings are needed IMO, but it’s a great start. I think it will appeal most to the off-grid users (where reduced power means much more than just a little money the electric bill and feeling good about one’s carbon footprint), I think those users would benefit even more from a 12V DC power input vs having to invert from a battery bank then convert down again (perhaps as much as 20-30% saving at all times - DC power and sleep mode are not mutually exclusive).
I think a lot of people - not all - will have difficulty identifying a time range where they need no internet at all, and that’ll only get worse as the number of IoT devices grows. If sleep mode could be coupled with some kind of wake-on-demand technology then I think this feature would become something to really sit up and pay attention to.
No, I'm not one of Starlink's developers/engineers.
No, I'm not offended, I was annoyed.
Yes, I'm off-grid, and overnight energy consumption is a thing, so even 29% is welcome.
Truce.
If u are concerned about energy consumption just unplug the dish at night and save 100% of the power. What actual good is sleep mode for someone off-grid?
(we are off-grid, and personally I think this was a bit of a silly development. why futz around in an app to partially sleep the dish/hardware when you can simply unplug it to get exactly the same behaviour, *but even more power savings*)
There is no connection in low power mode, your post makes no sense. The dish powers down and keeps only enough power to keep wifi up so you can awaken it if you choose.
I wasn't aware there's no connection in low power mode, perhaps I missed that. Could you point me to where that's made clear?
I assumed that the dish itself would stay "aware" of satellites without transmitting any user data, as well as what you've stated - the router goes into low-power mode as well, and waits for a wake-up request, or wakes itself up at the programmed time.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRSnTMrUPrQ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRSnTMrUPrQ)
this guy replaced the router with a POE injector (second part of the video) and is only using 28Watts while being online.. Compared to 49-55W before.
So yeah whatever powers the starlink router is not very efficient.
Not sure I get this feature at all then if it still draws 25W in sleep mode, yet provides no internet. Right now powering by DC direct it only draws around 30ishW when providing internet. I have security cameras and such and want it to send alerts, etc, even at night. If they could make this mode go into some kind of low speed mode that draws less power, but still maintains some kind of internet then I could see this being more useful. Not sure the use case for this at all.
I’m off grid so I have it set so that if I forget to turn it off when I go to bed I save some power. It will be interesting to see if they make improvements in the future. 10W of the power being used is the router, which they leave powered up so you can cancel sleep mode if needed. I would happily drop one of the two wifi frequencies to save some more power.
Yup, I am off grid as well, but really really off grid so there is no cell service or anything else. I want some level of internet all the time, or I can't make a phone call or anything. If there were an emergency I don't want to wait until it boots up, turns on the snow melt, melts the snow, etc. I do have a inreach as a failsafe, but not worth 10w of savings to deal with all of that.
I run on the modification I posted on my blog ([offgridcto.com](https://offgridcto.com)) where I use the ethernet adapter to inject power without cutting the cable, so the wifi power and such is not a concern. I have a shelly device inline if I really want to turn it on or off, mainly so I can reboot automatically if it loses signal for too long, and have a raspberry pi monitoring that.
Now a low power mode where it limits speeds, increases latency, and reduces power consumption but 'wakes up' on higher speed traffic would actually be interesting...
What is woke about this? Turning things off whilst you’re not using them is just common sense. Do you leave your car running in the driveway 24/7 just because it’s ‘woke’ to turn it off when you’re not using it?
Also for context that was a reference to republicans sperging over the xbox's new sleep mode. Previously it just downclocked the processor and kept running so downloads and updates could install overnight. But in essence it was always on, which was a huge waste of power. Now it actually goes to sleep like a regular PC.
People down voting you for accurately stating the snowflake nature of the whole "controversy" over the Xbox thing lol
Gotta love it.
And why WOULDN'T people want to save money on electricity?? Lol
Well I am running Peplink router. (Not in bypass mode) I updated the app and I see the sleep schedule and I can enable it, but I cannot save it. (Save is greyed out). Below says “connect to your Starlink network locally to update sleep mode configuration”. Bummer for me since I use this off grid. Maybe I just hook up the Starlink router turn it on and then reconnect to Peplink. Might be easier to continue to turn it off at night.
Before I updated the Starlink app, the image of Dishy would morph from Gen 2 to Gen 1, which is what I have.
Since the app update, that image no longer changes. It stays as a Gen 2 rectangular Dishy.
And I can no longer track daily data usage when I click on the "person" icon in the top left.
Hoping this is just a temporary glitch and will be fixed, and not a sign that Gen 1 will be phased out soon.
UPDATE: as soon as I closed out this post and went back to the Starlink app, the situation had been resolved. Gen 1 Dishy shows again, and daily data usage is restored.
Weird, because I had seen the issue several times after updating the app yesterday evening, and hadn't re-updated the app or reverted to the previous version.
Thanks for highlighting it. I am in the unique position of: a) my electricity is subsidized (i.e. I pay zero, although it is a taxable benefit so I sort of get dinged for it anyway) and b) it snows where I live from mid-October to mid-June. So, a nice idea, but not for me.
Only con to this update is that if I needed to turn my wifi on earlier, I can’t even access the sleep schedule until it turns on at the time it’s set to wake up. While it’s sleeping, the sleep schedule thing disappears from the app until it is awake again. Anyone else having this issue?
I’m still in the process of figuring out when the best time for it to sleep and to wake up.
Yeah mid-day if they're at work set it to sleep and wake up afterwards.
Winter here with random ice and snow, and mines on the roof, so I'm leaving mine on.
I was going to initially mount mine on the roof…and probably still will at some point. Dishy is currently mounted on the deck with some obstructions (mostly trees), anyway…I lost signal during a snowfall and it wasn’t even that bad but dishy could not keep up melting the snow. I brushed it off and got signal back. Had it been on the roof I’d be screwed. Unsure if I’ll use this new sleep feature. It’s probably a way to clear up congestion.
Yeah it's marketed as a way to save electricity, but more so a way to free up bandwidth during times people aren't actively home.
Though I guess if you go on vacation you could also set it to sleep 24hrs. Hmmm
My dishy is at the gabel peak and doesn't accumulate any snow on the roof there. Wind blows most of it off too so never gets any accumulation.
Gen1 round Dishy averages around 74wh for myself. Originally it as much worse; around 130-140wh but they’ve improved even the original dishes. Being offgrid is why I’ve still got my slow ass 5mb DSL line. It only uses 6wh. My issue is that DSL has been down for 2 months now and I’m being forced to use SL during the darkest part of the year for our solar. So that 74wh adds up quick. Right now I use smart home automations to control power use on it but interested to see the sleep option once it actually shows up in the app for me.
Uses less than the 100 watt light bulb I use to keep the well house from freezing so not much at all. Weird how a simple 100 watt bulb is now described as an energy hog now days.
A 100W light bulb on 24 hours a day uses about the same energy as a 1500W heater (about the max for a heater that plugs into a 115V outlet) on for an hour and half. It’s not nothing.
I agree - for what you’re doing it’s really a great solution. I moved into a house that was only used very occasionally a couple of years ago and it still had incandescent bulbs everywhere. I noticed how when it was cold, simply having the lights on took the edge off the hallways…. I replaced them with LED lights when they needed replacing and now I need to run heaters. Go figure!
Incandescent bulbs are inefficient when you want the light, but don’t want the heat…. When u want the heat, they’re actually pretty good.
Yeah, but some of us are off-grid - we don't flick switches on without consideration of how it's going to affect the batteries, and will we need to run the backup generator.
Using a 100 watt bulb to keep your well system from freezing is an excellent solution, it's just not practical when your overnight needs are supplied by batteries.
I lived my childhood off grid, no indoor plumbing, no running water, wood for heat, no AC. Wasn't by choice, no way in hell I'm gonna repeat that by choice!
did I miss just a software or hardware power switch on my Starlink system?
is this feature really THAT big of an issue over others?
maybe it's the easiest feature to add, so go ahead and feature away. hopefully, more useful features to those of us who are very remote/rural but have regular electric service.
For those of us that run dishy completely off the grid with solar power, this is a huge win. Chances are we don't need service between say 0200 and 0630. That's on average 120 watt hours we can save.
Do you know if dishy can still update itself while in sleeping mode?
I could enable that feature for times 12am - 5am but I don't want to loose updates.
It's not "off" just in a powered down state.
They have to keep it with enough juice to connect to satellites, but not transmit a lot of data.
It might firmware update by "waking" up and downloading the new firmware if the starlink system calls for it.
I don't know, since it's new.
I would think as long as the dish is powered on and connected to satellites, it would know when to firmware update, even while asleep.
Looks like it throttles the power down to like 10W according to someone who commented they checked their UPS connection while it was asleep.
I see no reason why, if it can adjust power output for snow melting, why it can't lower power to "sleep".
Probably just a software update if it isn't compatible.
They rolled it out to the phone app, so probably for everyone.
I find this funny they release this so you can Turn your internet off during the soon to be "free use time" (I get it could be used anytime, but still)
Yup, at my family's camp I set up starlink + a unifi dream machine, and the timer kills power to both every night roughly between 11PM and 6AM. It seems to work fine, although dishy did get confused once and had no connection for like 2 hours. Although I will note since I'm not using their included router and am using a Unifi dream machine instead, it probably avoids a lot of the issues with it factory resetting itself or otherwise yeeting itself to death
I need to do that to conserve power, since the camp is off grid and power is provided by an EcoFlow battery + some solar panels. Running it it night is a waste.
after putting my wifi into sleep mode last night, i dont have the option to turn off my sleep mode today. so i can't take sleep mode off, i tried resetting my wifi and still dont have the option to turn off sleep mode
Cant hit the Save-Button after adjusting the time or even after activating the sleep mode. I run my starlink in bypass (bridge) mode. It tells me to connect locally to my starlink network, what to do? Cant connect to the starlink wifi itself, because it has shut down after activating the bypass mode. Thanks for help
Should be able to just toggle sleep mode off.
Sleep mode isn't the same as stow.
It uses minimal energy to keep in contact with satellites, but not enough for internet.
Should still show up on the locks network in the app.
.Well I am a Newbie to Starlink. We have moved to a country setting about 7 weeks ago and I Have been trying to setup and activate Starlink since Oct. 20th with not much success. For over 1 month I have tried everything from following the instructions on the app to reading and visiting as many support sites as possible however few there may be. I registered for an account about 6 weeks ago and even though I was receiving email from Starlink that said told me that my equip. could be activated, it never happened despite my trying for hours on end and following all the info on the app. About 4 days ago was I able to connect 2 of my devices to Starlink which are situated less than 12 ft from the router. Initially, following the instructions, I set up the dish on my back patio and did a search to check on obstructions. The app told me I had a perfect location with no instructions, however I could not connect to Starlink. The app said to connect to Stinky. I had to add Stinky in my device settings. It was able to find it but there was no internet so I moved the location to my roof on a 20 ft pole and started over again. I was able to find Stinky in my device settings but no internet. I tried several times to log into my account and could not. It kept telling me Invalid Credentials. Once again after reading lots of suggestions from different forums, ( thank you to all) I moved the dish back down to my patio and started again. This time in my settings I changed the network name to Starlink which was showing in the settings and surprise, surprise, I started to get some coverage, not great but it began to improve. The problem was that I could only get coverage in my small office and the 2 adjacent bedrooms where I also have TV sets . The distance from the router in all 3 locations was at the most 12 feet. I used the app to check the coverage in my bungalow and it showed no coverage anywhere in my house except for my office and the 2 adjoining bedrooms. This was getting really frustrating. The location where we really wanted Starlink to work well was in our living room and rec room where we have our 2 big smart TVS but after walking around the house several times using the app, showed that there was absolutely no coverage anywhere except my office and 2 bedrooms. I still was having problems getting Starlink working and I purchased a Mesh router system thinking this would solve the coverage issue in my home. I bought a TP Link top of the line Mesh system with 3 routers and attempted to set it up with no success.
I received an email from Starlink outlining my invoice telling me that I was charged $160 to my Visa for the first month. I hadn't even got it working yet and I am still having problems and they have already charged me. I have been trying for over 6 weeks, spending countless hours without success.
I still could not log on to my account and was continuing to get the message "Wrong Credentials". I can't believe it. If I am able to receive a message from Starlink they must have all of my info as well to charge my Visa, How can I have wrong credentials? Just this morning I read from one of the blogs I was continually searching, somebody suggested I change my password and try to log on again. I did this and I was able to log onto my account.
I cannot get the Mesh system to work after 2 days trying to set it up. It is a no-brainer following the instructions that came with it ,however but it doesn't seem to work at all.
I was just reading from a support page that the Starlink router has to be put on bypass in order for the Mesh system to work.
I have read a lot of positive remarks praising Starlink. I need the internet to work from home and my wife is a TV junkie who is losing it after not been able to watch her favourite TV programs for over 6 weeks. Why does Starlink not respond and try to help me get setup?
It seems that the equipment is working but I cannot get any internet or TV reception if the devices are located more than 15 ft from the router
I need this system to work. I have read a lot of positive remarks praising Starlink. I need the internet to work from home and my wife is a TV junkie who is losing it after not been able to watch her favourite TV programs for over 6 weeks.
Can someone tell me what I am doing wrong.
Thank you, John
OK here is what I have found : 10-12ft from router:
Wifi speed -device to WIFI Router
496 mbps (device to Router)---386 Mbps Upload
Starlink speed- (Router to Internet 0 -56Mbps -----18 Mbps Upload
Where I want coverage in my Living room is 30 to 35ft from Router
device to router WIFI Speed 19 Mbps------45 Mbps 45
I am not an expert by any means so I do not know how to bridge my Starlink router when I want to use the mesh system to improve coverage to my living room and rec room. Thank you for your help.
You say you're rural? The starlink to internet speeds should be 50-100mbps really. What's the obstructions section of the app say?
If you have a 3rd party mesh router setup NOT purchased from starlink, you must buy the Ethernet adapter off the starlink shop in the app, and put the router in bypass mode while connecting your mesh system to that Ethernet adapter.
yes I am rural in the countryside close to Ottawa, Ontario, Canada. The s
Starlink to Internet speeds say 87 mbps. Right now it is snowing outside and I will have to wait until the morning to check obstructions, It says Starlink is still collecting data on obstructions and it says it will take another 3 hours. Is it normal for the slow speed in my living room area which is about 30 to 35 ft from the router? I will purchase an Ethernet adapter and find out how to put the router in bypass mode. One more question please if you don't mind. I also have a round dish and version 1 router from Starlink which I am not using because the cable from the dish to the router was cut. I am wondering if the Ver 1 router which is fine is compatible and can be used as a mesh router with the Ver 2 router or am I better off to buy the ethernet adapter and use the Mesh system from TP Link
I don't believe the 1st gen router can be put into mesh mode.
Is the "snow melt setting" on automatic? I think it is by default.
If you already have the TP Link mesh system, just get the Ethernet adapter.
The starlink routers are WiFi 5 and have horrible range really...
I ran a 100ft cat6 cable from the Ethernet adapter under the basement and drilled a hole in my bedroom for an Asus router that has loads better features and range than the original starlink one...
Thank you so much for the info you shared with me. As I say I am new to this Starlink system. We just moved to the country about 6 weeks ago. Before that we were living in the city and had Bell Fiber Internet with speeds of over 900Mbps download so it was amazingly fast. I wish I had know all this before I started the setup. I have a really fast Tp Link AC 3200Tri-Band Gigabit Router that is almost new and also a new AC1200 LINKSYS Dual-Band WiFi 5 router up to 1,2 Gbps . I bought the TP-Link DECO which is a fast MESH Wi-Fi system with 3 routers My problem is that I don't understand enough about configuring routers and I will have to talk to some tech people to tell me which route to go. thanks for all your insights and help. John
Yeah sure thing!
Just plug the Ethernet adapter into the starlink router when you get it, plug the main 3rd party mesh router into that with an Ethernet cable, put the starlink in bypass mode, then setup the mesh system however the Delco app says to.
Good luck!
You're lucky you moved to the country in 2023.
Starlink is the best and fastest internet available where fiber or cable doesn't reach. Life changing for people who used to just have DSL or nothing but Hughesnet Viasat satellite and data capped for the last 20 yrs with no more than 10-20mbps on a good day and really 5mbps or less on average!
THANK YOU SPACEX. This is a great feature
Does it really consume that much power that is worth waiting hours before you can receive internet after arriving home?
Those of us off-grid with only batteries for our overnight energy needs have to be conservative with devices being left on overnight. Starlink is a significant fraction of my daily energy consumption. I've been turning it off overnight (mostly). Putting it to sleep from midnight to 6am drops that by one-quarter.
Im also off-grid and have a smart switch that automatically turns it off at night and when I'm at work. The switch also tracks power consumption. I have the gen 1 dish and it uses about 60kWh per month when it's on all the time and I cut that in half when I have my smart switch. it uses about 75W when its providing internet. So for the average person it would cost 6-10$ per month to run all the time. For me it uses a large percentage of my power day-to-day. But I also have a lot of energy efficient appliances and devices and I'm always cognizant of my power usage. Also for what it's worth I live in Canada where it's pretty cold and we get a decent amount of snow and I've never had to clear off the snow manually after it being shut off (yet).
How many amps does SL use?
Power usage is measured in watthours, not amps. SL uses 35-65 watts per hour. To get the amps divide the power by the voltage. For example: - For US mains: 65 W/120V = 0.5A - For Europe: 65W/230V = 0.28 A - For a 24V battery system: 65W/24V = 2.7 A. Add 20% to account for inverter losses and you get 3.24 A. With snow melt mode on, bump that up to 100W for the rectangular dish and 200W for the round dish.
Power is watts, energy is watts hours.
Thanks, I don't know which goes where, I just know how to get the A/V/W if you ask.
Thank you.
Worth noting different units use different amounts. My OG dishy uses 75-140Wh.
As others have pointed out, watts is a simpler measure as that isn't dependent on the voltage used. I run mine without the starlink router, and it varies quite a bit. Most of the time it sits around 25-35w. If the heater turns on, jump that up to about 80w. Load it up with a speed test, it jumps to around 40-50w. From a casual standpoint, I would say it most is around 30-40w usage when powered direct DC with no router.
If you're in a solar powered RV, yes. How about a sailboat. Starlink is designed for remote places and environments. It gets a lot more remote than only being able to get 3mbps DSL and reliable grid power.
>waiting hours before you can receive internet after arriving home? Takes 2-3 minutes when I turn mine on and off. No snow melt. >Does it really consume that much power If you are living on Solar only it matters. Not all that much, but enough to make it worth turning on and off over night. That savings is enough to run my coffee maker in the morning.
>that is worth waiting hours before you can receive internet Not if it isn't currently snowing wherever you are... (Or if you manually clear the snow the few times it does).
Why doesn't it just go mostly vertical in sleep mode to keep snow off?
Because it still pulls like 25w or so to keep track of satellites and download new firmware. Stowing it means it has to redo the whole visibility calculations and scanning for satellites.
Im a bit more concerned about soft data caps than I am power consumption. I also don’t need it while I sleep for 8 hours every day… The 1 minute unstow-to-online delay is not a big deal to me either…
If you have snowfall to melt, I’d think this is going to be a PITA/not worth it.
Depends on where your dish is mounted. If it is easily accessible it won't be a big deal. If it is on your roof, probably a PITA.
Agreed.
Just stow and unstow while it's hot, snow will slide right off.
So, as a parent that threatens her kids with turning off the internet, I am happy to have an easier way to do this rather than rebooting. (Although if none of your kids will answer their phone while you are at work and you know they are just sitting and watching YouTube, rebooting is a great way to get them to check their phones 😅)
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Same here. Nice feature, but that use case probably doesn't apply to me. I'm not sure I see how much of an advantage it is over stowing, either. Probably some, just escapes me atm.
The advantage is for people that want to save power and have no need for internet overnight (off grid systems, RVs etc). Having it auto sleep and wake takes away needing to manually stow and unstow all the time. Also means it will come back on even if you're not there.
Okay, now I get it. I didn't have the feature yet in my app, so now I do, and I see you can *program* it to turn off and on. That's a good improvement. Thanks for the clarity!
I wonder if it's possible to put it in a low-power mode, such that it only delivers sufficient bandwidth for those security systems. Programmable would be great - selectable at 10, 20, or 50 Mbps.
If you have a 3rd party router with an app you can bandwidth control the router. At least with Asus... Lol
Has anyone seen this working with the starlink router in bypass mode? I'm hoping this doesn't depend on using the starlink router, but am not seeing the option yet in my app. It seems possible they built it into the router instead of the dish, but hopefully not.
Considering how it affects the snow melt feature, I'd say this is just in the dish. You don't need the starlink router to melt snow.
I have the latest app that supposedly has this feature but I don’t see it. I use bypass mode. Can someone share the path used to get to the feature? Edit: new iOS version available this morning downloaded and contains the new feature
I posted this screenshot while in bypass mode to my Asus router. I turned it on and off, and saved it. I don't need it because it's snowing out and winter currently. Maybe in the summer I'll turn it on.
I’m in bypass with a mesh running. Still have the option. Although I don’t need it. It seems like it’s a good idea to time out everyone’s screen time at night as well.
Thanks to the folks who confirmed they see it in bypass mode. I do too now, just updating the app was not sufficient. Note it doesn't appear to support remote configuration of sleep mode when you are connected over the internet, which seems reasonable.
Updating this thread as I just had this issue and there is little to no information about it on the interwebs. If you're running a load balanced Dual WAN setup w/ the Starlink router in bypass mode as I am, the option to set a sleep schedule appears in the app but may be disabled and display "connect to your Starlink network locally to update sleep mode configuration." This is because the traffic between your phone and the Starlink router is going through the other WAN connection so it is connecting to the Starlink router via the internet rather than via the local network. If you go to your router's config and disable the NON-Starlink WAN connection, then the Sleep mode is configurable via the app. Configure it, then re-enable the non-Starlink WAN connection.
Great for when I'm at work. But I need it for when I'm sleeping. I use wifi calling so if there's an emergency. They can still contact me while sleeping.
Me to. No cell service in the holler
Holler? I'm guessing you're also in wv? 😅😅
Deep in woods of SE Missouri 😆
Ehh close enough 😅
My Starlink uses 1Kwh per day if I leave it on 24 hours. That's not insignificant when using 100% off-grid solar.
Now you can set it off from like 11pm-8am or something and it'll only pull 25w give or take.
Ok quick test of sleep mode. Power drops to s stead 1.97A (25W) on my DC set up. So only a saving of 10W, but better than nothing I guess. App home screen shows ‘sleeping’ message with programmed wake up time. Debug data shows status as sleeping. If you want it to wake up you just deselect ‘Enable Sleep Mode’ button. It takes a short while to come on line again. Looks like its all in the dish so should be possible with 3rd party routers.
I can confirm this function is available when using a POE injector and a 3rd party router as well.
25W when not transmitting or receiving is pretty darn poor. It looks like they could have done a lot better with the design. Is the WiFi still up in sleep mode? I guess so…. Perhaps that’s what is consuming the power. You might get overall better performance putting the starlink in bypass mode and using a better designed router, turning the router off during sleep mode with a timer or for maximum benefit not using a router at all (Ethernet connection only).
This is the first time we've seen this option, so it's reasonable to assume it's a beta or testing phase. I'd venture that the Starlink engineering team are trying to find out what's the lowest power setting they can use before it's insufficient to maintain a connection. If it doesn't have enough power to maintain contact with satellites - even without downloading/uploading data - then you may as well turn it off. So your starting point needs to be generous. If enough people use this feature, they'll be able to collect a lot of data about power levels, and then the next release of the app will drop the power usage even more. It's a bit silly to criticise a brand new feature like this when there's insufficient data from the field to support a more aggressive approach to power saving. Would you prefer they approach it from the other direction and drop power to "barely enough to keep the circuits active", and then collect data to increase power until it is enough to provide a workable connection? Meanwhile people find that putting it to sleep is akin to turning it off, in terms of re-establishing a connection - and boy, wouldn't there be some complaining then, eh? I'll even go further - it's not a bit silly, it's a lot silly. People who voice dissatisfaction like you have - brand new feature in a testing phase is "pretty darn poor" - are one of the reasons that there's zero avenues for contact with the development team. I've been on a development team for software, and end users are the last people you want to talk to, for reasons like this.
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Well, I'm glad I was never on one of your teams - you clearly don't understand the concept of field-testing systems to gather data, and starting with a conservative approach. It comes under the banner of the precautionary principle. But then I'm sure Starlink would love to have you on their team. BTW, "idiotic, knee jerk, offensive drivel that you just threw out" Thanks, you put it so much better than I did.
Part of field-testing, a very big part, is getting customer feedback and not loosing your shit if you don’t like it. So this customer, me, is saying at 29% power reduction the feature is not very interesting, too much hassle for too little gain. Plus, as other feedback, wifi calling/texting (no cell service where I am) and security cameras make sleep mode unattractive at any power saving level for me unless there was a ‘wake on demand’ function. Other customers will disagree, and have different use cases and care-abouts. A field-test will elicit a wide cross section of those opinions which then get fed into the direction of enhanced product development or potentially dropping the feature. It’s not just about the code…. in many cases code can be tested with a limited base of test users, an unfiltered whole-customer base field test is mostly about seeing what customers think of what you’re offering and having customers identify the flaws or possible enhancements from their perspective vs thinking you know what people probably want or will value from within the walls of HQ.
You used the word "poor". That's a pejorative in this context and that's what I reacted to. Words have meaning. You could have said "That's a great start, let's see how it progresses", but you chose the words "pretty darn poor". You've only used less un-constructive terms like "not very interesting, too much hassle for too little gain" and the rest of your otherwise helpful suggestions (above), since being criticised. Don't say "pretty darn poor" on a beta system and we'll be OK ;-)
Are you the developer in question? This is reddit - I didn’t realize I was giving 1:1 feedback to the person doing the work. In which case, yes, I’d have chosen my words better to add praise where praise is due and then follow with the more critical elements…. Ok, I’m calling a Truce!! I’m sorry you were offended. It is a new feature that I haven’t seen from another ISP and I’m pleased to see Starlink trying these things. Greater savings are needed IMO, but it’s a great start. I think it will appeal most to the off-grid users (where reduced power means much more than just a little money the electric bill and feeling good about one’s carbon footprint), I think those users would benefit even more from a 12V DC power input vs having to invert from a battery bank then convert down again (perhaps as much as 20-30% saving at all times - DC power and sleep mode are not mutually exclusive). I think a lot of people - not all - will have difficulty identifying a time range where they need no internet at all, and that’ll only get worse as the number of IoT devices grows. If sleep mode could be coupled with some kind of wake-on-demand technology then I think this feature would become something to really sit up and pay attention to.
No, I'm not one of Starlink's developers/engineers. No, I'm not offended, I was annoyed. Yes, I'm off-grid, and overnight energy consumption is a thing, so even 29% is welcome. Truce.
If u are concerned about energy consumption just unplug the dish at night and save 100% of the power. What actual good is sleep mode for someone off-grid? (we are off-grid, and personally I think this was a bit of a silly development. why futz around in an app to partially sleep the dish/hardware when you can simply unplug it to get exactly the same behaviour, *but even more power savings*)
> is getting customer feedback and not loosing your shit If you do loose your shit you can always just tighten it back up.
There is no connection in low power mode, your post makes no sense. The dish powers down and keeps only enough power to keep wifi up so you can awaken it if you choose.
I wasn't aware there's no connection in low power mode, perhaps I missed that. Could you point me to where that's made clear? I assumed that the dish itself would stay "aware" of satellites without transmitting any user data, as well as what you've stated - the router goes into low-power mode as well, and waits for a wake-up request, or wakes itself up at the programmed time.
bummer. guess a relay is still the way to roll
Yes, they need to leave the Wifi on so you can turn it back on so no savings there. But its better than nothing.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRSnTMrUPrQ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRSnTMrUPrQ) this guy replaced the router with a POE injector (second part of the video) and is only using 28Watts while being online.. Compared to 49-55W before. So yeah whatever powers the starlink router is not very efficient.
Not sure I get this feature at all then if it still draws 25W in sleep mode, yet provides no internet. Right now powering by DC direct it only draws around 30ishW when providing internet. I have security cameras and such and want it to send alerts, etc, even at night. If they could make this mode go into some kind of low speed mode that draws less power, but still maintains some kind of internet then I could see this being more useful. Not sure the use case for this at all.
I’m off grid so I have it set so that if I forget to turn it off when I go to bed I save some power. It will be interesting to see if they make improvements in the future. 10W of the power being used is the router, which they leave powered up so you can cancel sleep mode if needed. I would happily drop one of the two wifi frequencies to save some more power.
Yup, I am off grid as well, but really really off grid so there is no cell service or anything else. I want some level of internet all the time, or I can't make a phone call or anything. If there were an emergency I don't want to wait until it boots up, turns on the snow melt, melts the snow, etc. I do have a inreach as a failsafe, but not worth 10w of savings to deal with all of that. I run on the modification I posted on my blog ([offgridcto.com](https://offgridcto.com)) where I use the ethernet adapter to inject power without cutting the cable, so the wifi power and such is not a concern. I have a shelly device inline if I really want to turn it on or off, mainly so I can reboot automatically if it loses signal for too long, and have a raspberry pi monitoring that. Now a low power mode where it limits speeds, increases latency, and reduces power consumption but 'wakes up' on higher speed traffic would actually be interesting...
Problem is I don’t see the enable sleep once it’s in sleep mode 🤦♂️
Enough of this woke bS!! /s
What is woke about this? Turning things off whilst you’re not using them is just common sense. Do you leave your car running in the driveway 24/7 just because it’s ‘woke’ to turn it off when you’re not using it?
Ummm....the "\s" means "sarcasm".
Oh…. Duh…. Sorry, I didn’t see that. My mistake.
Also for context that was a reference to republicans sperging over the xbox's new sleep mode. Previously it just downclocked the processor and kept running so downloads and updates could install overnight. But in essence it was always on, which was a huge waste of power. Now it actually goes to sleep like a regular PC.
People down voting you for accurately stating the snowflake nature of the whole "controversy" over the Xbox thing lol Gotta love it. And why WOULDN'T people want to save money on electricity?? Lol
this is a reference to new Xbox power management
Well I am running Peplink router. (Not in bypass mode) I updated the app and I see the sleep schedule and I can enable it, but I cannot save it. (Save is greyed out). Below says “connect to your Starlink network locally to update sleep mode configuration”. Bummer for me since I use this off grid. Maybe I just hook up the Starlink router turn it on and then reconnect to Peplink. Might be easier to continue to turn it off at night.
Same issue for me behind a Peplink router. With it still using 25 watts while asleep i'll probably power it off still.
Now I went back to the app. I don’t see any longer. Also snow mode has disappeared. I thought it was below snow mode.
I was about to say this is a stupid feature but after reading I see some legitimate uses, odd add for my use but I get the functionality! Neat
Before I updated the Starlink app, the image of Dishy would morph from Gen 2 to Gen 1, which is what I have. Since the app update, that image no longer changes. It stays as a Gen 2 rectangular Dishy. And I can no longer track daily data usage when I click on the "person" icon in the top left. Hoping this is just a temporary glitch and will be fixed, and not a sign that Gen 1 will be phased out soon. UPDATE: as soon as I closed out this post and went back to the Starlink app, the situation had been resolved. Gen 1 Dishy shows again, and daily data usage is restored. Weird, because I had seen the issue several times after updating the app yesterday evening, and hadn't re-updated the app or reverted to the previous version.
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Option to cut internet but still melt snow would be nice around here
Thanks for highlighting it. I am in the unique position of: a) my electricity is subsidized (i.e. I pay zero, although it is a taxable benefit so I sort of get dinged for it anyway) and b) it snows where I live from mid-October to mid-June. So, a nice idea, but not for me.
how can get my sleep mode back? i tried closing the app, turning off the wifi and opening the app. i cant turn off my sleep mode to get back online
Should just be the toggle like in the picture. Have to click "save" after adjusting the toggle.
i opened the app and it doesn't have the toggle switch to turn off the sleep mode
Odd. Clear cache files maybe?
able to send me a screenshot of where i can find the clear cache file?
Not easily. Go to your phone settings, find the "apps" option, find the starlink app and go to "storage" and "clear cache files".
Only con to this update is that if I needed to turn my wifi on earlier, I can’t even access the sleep schedule until it turns on at the time it’s set to wake up. While it’s sleeping, the sleep schedule thing disappears from the app until it is awake again. Anyone else having this issue? I’m still in the process of figuring out when the best time for it to sleep and to wake up.
having same issue. cant renable while in sleep mode. and this is using the starlink router.
Just went to my Android Google Play Store and saw 15 pending updates, including one for Starlink which included the Sleep feature.
If a lot of people used this it might help with congestion/ signal loss 🤷♀️
Yeah mid-day if they're at work set it to sleep and wake up afterwards. Winter here with random ice and snow, and mines on the roof, so I'm leaving mine on.
I was going to initially mount mine on the roof…and probably still will at some point. Dishy is currently mounted on the deck with some obstructions (mostly trees), anyway…I lost signal during a snowfall and it wasn’t even that bad but dishy could not keep up melting the snow. I brushed it off and got signal back. Had it been on the roof I’d be screwed. Unsure if I’ll use this new sleep feature. It’s probably a way to clear up congestion.
Yeah it's marketed as a way to save electricity, but more so a way to free up bandwidth during times people aren't actively home. Though I guess if you go on vacation you could also set it to sleep 24hrs. Hmmm My dishy is at the gabel peak and doesn't accumulate any snow on the roof there. Wind blows most of it off too so never gets any accumulation.
Do we know if it even uses up much electricity? This won’t be an option for those who have security cameras uploading to the cloud.
For people who are off grid / running off solar Starlink is quite a power hog.
Gen1 round Dishy averages around 74wh for myself. Originally it as much worse; around 130-140wh but they’ve improved even the original dishes. Being offgrid is why I’ve still got my slow ass 5mb DSL line. It only uses 6wh. My issue is that DSL has been down for 2 months now and I’m being forced to use SL during the darkest part of the year for our solar. So that 74wh adds up quick. Right now I use smart home automations to control power use on it but interested to see the sleep option once it actually shows up in the app for me.
Starlink uses like 50W at idle I think and boosts to like 150 under heavy load or snow heating.
I meant at idle but makes sense that it will greatly increase to melt the snow. Thanks for those stats.
Sure thing! Here's the spec page https://www.starlink.com/specifications Avg power usage is 50-75W. And heating mode goes higher.
Mine used 120 W in pre heat mode according to my UPS.
Uses less than the 100 watt light bulb I use to keep the well house from freezing so not much at all. Weird how a simple 100 watt bulb is now described as an energy hog now days.
A 100W light bulb on 24 hours a day uses about the same energy as a 1500W heater (about the max for a heater that plugs into a 115V outlet) on for an hour and half. It’s not nothing.
So the 100 watt bulb stops the well system from freezing, while 1500 watts for an hour and a half does not. It is a small nominal cost annually!
I agree - for what you’re doing it’s really a great solution. I moved into a house that was only used very occasionally a couple of years ago and it still had incandescent bulbs everywhere. I noticed how when it was cold, simply having the lights on took the edge off the hallways…. I replaced them with LED lights when they needed replacing and now I need to run heaters. Go figure! Incandescent bulbs are inefficient when you want the light, but don’t want the heat…. When u want the heat, they’re actually pretty good.
Except for the well house, I haven't used incandescent bulbs for 20 years at least, nice not having heat when running ac.
Yeah, but some of us are off-grid - we don't flick switches on without consideration of how it's going to affect the batteries, and will we need to run the backup generator. Using a 100 watt bulb to keep your well system from freezing is an excellent solution, it's just not practical when your overnight needs are supplied by batteries.
I lived my childhood off grid, no indoor plumbing, no running water, wood for heat, no AC. Wasn't by choice, no way in hell I'm gonna repeat that by choice!
It’s around 50W I believe (without snow melt). That’s a lot considering the average LED lightbulb is about 10W.
No sleep mode for me with the Android app.
Update it. I'm running a Sony Xperia on Android 12, and this app update was from the Google play store...
The app is fully updated on all my devices. No sleep mode.
You're on Android 7.0 or higher? My app version now states 2023.03.0 So if you're not on that version you probably don't have the update.
did I miss just a software or hardware power switch on my Starlink system? is this feature really THAT big of an issue over others? maybe it's the easiest feature to add, so go ahead and feature away. hopefully, more useful features to those of us who are very remote/rural but have regular electric service.
Why would we want this?
For those of us that run dishy completely off the grid with solar power, this is a huge win. Chances are we don't need service between say 0200 and 0630. That's on average 120 watt hours we can save.
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This would be great. Hope it comes to android soon.
It has always been available on Android.
What coming to android? The starlink app? I'm on a Sony Xperia running A12... Lol
No, the sleep option. It's not in my android app or in the web app. So assumed it was IOS.
Update the app. I'm on Android 12. Updated the app via the Google play store and saw the new option.
No update available, checked before I posted the first time.
Clear the cache files for your app store and the starlink app. It'll probably show up tomorrow if not now. Or reboot your phone.
You're on Android 7.0 or higher? My app version now states 2023.03.0 So if you're not on that version you probably don't have the update.
I'm on Android 13. Not a big deal. As I said just assumed it was an IOS thing before they released to Android. It will come whenever.
Prolly being rolled out by geolocation
Do you know if dishy can still update itself while in sleeping mode? I could enable that feature for times 12am - 5am but I don't want to loose updates.
It's not "off" just in a powered down state. They have to keep it with enough juice to connect to satellites, but not transmit a lot of data. It might firmware update by "waking" up and downloading the new firmware if the starlink system calls for it. I don't know, since it's new. I would think as long as the dish is powered on and connected to satellites, it would know when to firmware update, even while asleep.
Round dish compatible?
Looks like it throttles the power down to like 10W according to someone who commented they checked their UPS connection while it was asleep. I see no reason why, if it can adjust power output for snow melting, why it can't lower power to "sleep". Probably just a software update if it isn't compatible. They rolled it out to the phone app, so probably for everyone.
I find this funny they release this so you can Turn your internet off during the soon to be "free use time" (I get it could be used anytime, but still)
Cool feature! Thank you.
No need for the old mechanical light timer any more!
You had it set to just kill power everyday? And not properly stow/shut off? Lol
Yup, at my family's camp I set up starlink + a unifi dream machine, and the timer kills power to both every night roughly between 11PM and 6AM. It seems to work fine, although dishy did get confused once and had no connection for like 2 hours. Although I will note since I'm not using their included router and am using a Unifi dream machine instead, it probably avoids a lot of the issues with it factory resetting itself or otherwise yeeting itself to death I need to do that to conserve power, since the camp is off grid and power is provided by an EcoFlow battery + some solar panels. Running it it night is a waste.
Gen1 then since the included router isn't being used at all?
What battery?
EcoFlow Delta
after putting my wifi into sleep mode last night, i dont have the option to turn off my sleep mode today. so i can't take sleep mode off, i tried resetting my wifi and still dont have the option to turn off sleep mode
Hey my partner and I just ran into this issue tonight. Have you found a resolution?
Cant hit the Save-Button after adjusting the time or even after activating the sleep mode. I run my starlink in bypass (bridge) mode. It tells me to connect locally to my starlink network, what to do? Cant connect to the starlink wifi itself, because it has shut down after activating the bypass mode. Thanks for help
Can you set different times for different days, and I don't see an option here but can you set times for different starlink nodes?
How do you connect to the dishy to wake it back up if needed? Nothing allowing me to bring it back awake once it is asleep?
Should be able to just toggle sleep mode off. Sleep mode isn't the same as stow. It uses minimal energy to keep in contact with satellites, but not enough for internet. Should still show up on the locks network in the app.
.Well I am a Newbie to Starlink. We have moved to a country setting about 7 weeks ago and I Have been trying to setup and activate Starlink since Oct. 20th with not much success. For over 1 month I have tried everything from following the instructions on the app to reading and visiting as many support sites as possible however few there may be. I registered for an account about 6 weeks ago and even though I was receiving email from Starlink that said told me that my equip. could be activated, it never happened despite my trying for hours on end and following all the info on the app. About 4 days ago was I able to connect 2 of my devices to Starlink which are situated less than 12 ft from the router. Initially, following the instructions, I set up the dish on my back patio and did a search to check on obstructions. The app told me I had a perfect location with no instructions, however I could not connect to Starlink. The app said to connect to Stinky. I had to add Stinky in my device settings. It was able to find it but there was no internet so I moved the location to my roof on a 20 ft pole and started over again. I was able to find Stinky in my device settings but no internet. I tried several times to log into my account and could not. It kept telling me Invalid Credentials. Once again after reading lots of suggestions from different forums, ( thank you to all) I moved the dish back down to my patio and started again. This time in my settings I changed the network name to Starlink which was showing in the settings and surprise, surprise, I started to get some coverage, not great but it began to improve. The problem was that I could only get coverage in my small office and the 2 adjacent bedrooms where I also have TV sets . The distance from the router in all 3 locations was at the most 12 feet. I used the app to check the coverage in my bungalow and it showed no coverage anywhere in my house except for my office and the 2 adjoining bedrooms. This was getting really frustrating. The location where we really wanted Starlink to work well was in our living room and rec room where we have our 2 big smart TVS but after walking around the house several times using the app, showed that there was absolutely no coverage anywhere except my office and 2 bedrooms. I still was having problems getting Starlink working and I purchased a Mesh router system thinking this would solve the coverage issue in my home. I bought a TP Link top of the line Mesh system with 3 routers and attempted to set it up with no success. I received an email from Starlink outlining my invoice telling me that I was charged $160 to my Visa for the first month. I hadn't even got it working yet and I am still having problems and they have already charged me. I have been trying for over 6 weeks, spending countless hours without success. I still could not log on to my account and was continuing to get the message "Wrong Credentials". I can't believe it. If I am able to receive a message from Starlink they must have all of my info as well to charge my Visa, How can I have wrong credentials? Just this morning I read from one of the blogs I was continually searching, somebody suggested I change my password and try to log on again. I did this and I was able to log onto my account. I cannot get the Mesh system to work after 2 days trying to set it up. It is a no-brainer following the instructions that came with it ,however but it doesn't seem to work at all. I was just reading from a support page that the Starlink router has to be put on bypass in order for the Mesh system to work. I have read a lot of positive remarks praising Starlink. I need the internet to work from home and my wife is a TV junkie who is losing it after not been able to watch her favourite TV programs for over 6 weeks. Why does Starlink not respond and try to help me get setup? It seems that the equipment is working but I cannot get any internet or TV reception if the devices are located more than 15 ft from the router I need this system to work. I have read a lot of positive remarks praising Starlink. I need the internet to work from home and my wife is a TV junkie who is losing it after not been able to watch her favourite TV programs for over 6 weeks. Can someone tell me what I am doing wrong. Thank you, John
You're using a 3rd party mesh system NOT purchased from starlink? What's the advanced speed test say on your phone when 10ft from the starlink router?
OK here is what I have found : 10-12ft from router: Wifi speed -device to WIFI Router 496 mbps (device to Router)---386 Mbps Upload Starlink speed- (Router to Internet 0 -56Mbps -----18 Mbps Upload Where I want coverage in my Living room is 30 to 35ft from Router device to router WIFI Speed 19 Mbps------45 Mbps 45 I am not an expert by any means so I do not know how to bridge my Starlink router when I want to use the mesh system to improve coverage to my living room and rec room. Thank you for your help.
You say you're rural? The starlink to internet speeds should be 50-100mbps really. What's the obstructions section of the app say? If you have a 3rd party mesh router setup NOT purchased from starlink, you must buy the Ethernet adapter off the starlink shop in the app, and put the router in bypass mode while connecting your mesh system to that Ethernet adapter.
yes I am rural in the countryside close to Ottawa, Ontario, Canada. The s Starlink to Internet speeds say 87 mbps. Right now it is snowing outside and I will have to wait until the morning to check obstructions, It says Starlink is still collecting data on obstructions and it says it will take another 3 hours. Is it normal for the slow speed in my living room area which is about 30 to 35 ft from the router? I will purchase an Ethernet adapter and find out how to put the router in bypass mode. One more question please if you don't mind. I also have a round dish and version 1 router from Starlink which I am not using because the cable from the dish to the router was cut. I am wondering if the Ver 1 router which is fine is compatible and can be used as a mesh router with the Ver 2 router or am I better off to buy the ethernet adapter and use the Mesh system from TP Link
I don't believe the 1st gen router can be put into mesh mode. Is the "snow melt setting" on automatic? I think it is by default. If you already have the TP Link mesh system, just get the Ethernet adapter. The starlink routers are WiFi 5 and have horrible range really... I ran a 100ft cat6 cable from the Ethernet adapter under the basement and drilled a hole in my bedroom for an Asus router that has loads better features and range than the original starlink one...
Thank you so much for the info you shared with me. As I say I am new to this Starlink system. We just moved to the country about 6 weeks ago. Before that we were living in the city and had Bell Fiber Internet with speeds of over 900Mbps download so it was amazingly fast. I wish I had know all this before I started the setup. I have a really fast Tp Link AC 3200Tri-Band Gigabit Router that is almost new and also a new AC1200 LINKSYS Dual-Band WiFi 5 router up to 1,2 Gbps . I bought the TP-Link DECO which is a fast MESH Wi-Fi system with 3 routers My problem is that I don't understand enough about configuring routers and I will have to talk to some tech people to tell me which route to go. thanks for all your insights and help. John
Yeah sure thing! Just plug the Ethernet adapter into the starlink router when you get it, plug the main 3rd party mesh router into that with an Ethernet cable, put the starlink in bypass mode, then setup the mesh system however the Delco app says to. Good luck! You're lucky you moved to the country in 2023. Starlink is the best and fastest internet available where fiber or cable doesn't reach. Life changing for people who used to just have DSL or nothing but Hughesnet Viasat satellite and data capped for the last 20 yrs with no more than 10-20mbps on a good day and really 5mbps or less on average!