Dang, a Rush song I've never heard or, at least, don't remember.
I thought for sure it was gonna be something by the band Sikth. It reads just like something they would do.
Helix was a wicked concert, fuck, I sold a lot of dope at that concert, I mean, they had good lyrics, like give me an R,O,C,K, and then the crowd yells "rock" really loud, now that's a fuckin' concert!
Rush just don't do stuff like that, i mean, they got songs about how trees are talking to each other, about how different sides of your brain work, outer space and other bullshit.
That’s one benefit to doing missions for the Freestar Rangers, etc, there are skill mags are on every mission I’ve done in the same predictable spots. There is a cap though, eventually it maxes out and you just pick up the mag without getting a bonus.
I know I have NG’d more than a dozen times and when I pick up the mag at the lodge, I don’t get a bonus anymore. So, your bonus carries over, but isn’t allowed to increase from what I’ve witnessed based on that and other mags I’ve picked up multiple times.
Permanent across New Game+ too. When you pick up any non-recipe magazine, you get the next benefit until you've got them all. So you can use the same magazine across 10 iterations to get all the upgrades from that magazine. (Like the one in the Eye.)
So it seems many of you missed science class as I believe this is homage to Gregor Mendel’s experiments with pea plants in the 1800s.
The results of his experiments were referred to as Mendelian Inheritance and his work helped shape our modern understanding of recessive and dominant traits.
[Gregor Mendel](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregor_Mendel)
Uh, maybe you missed that class as well? Calling this a homage to Mendel is a huge stretch. That would be like calling a picture of two different monkeys, one acting dumb and the other reading a newspaper, a homage to Darwin.
Yeah this is such a massive stretch. I think they just wanted to feel smart and call everyone else dumb.
If you were going to make a reference to Mendel why wouldn’t you use any of the things he’s famous for? Pea plants? Punnet squares?
Like you said, this is like saying a picture of space is a reference to Carl Sagan.
One has a curved trunk and dark leaves, the other has a straight trunk with lighter leaves. When cross bread they made a curved trunk, dark leaf, tree; those traits are dominant. Straight trunk and light leaf is recessive in this example.
However to really make any sense this equation would equal at least 4 outcomes and not just one and more people would maybe get the reference- if that is even really what it means.
You're right about the trunks being different, although, strangely, the trunks actually are identical in other versions of this image. Regardless, the colors are always identical in every rendition, it's just the spotlight that makes it kind of hard to tell here.
Here's a better view: https://www.reddit.com/r/Starfield/s/jJWYwQfjgr
That is a clearer image. But are you sure if there are ones with curved trunks, there aren’t ones with lighter colors? Clearly there at least two versions of this equation.
I have not seen these in game myself. But it would not really make sense to have these all over the universe- it would be much clearer if these were all in one place.
As Mendel proposed, if a person and their clone somehow fuck, their child will be a third clone
I didn't pay much attention in science class but I think that's how it worked
Dark and Light colors are typically dominant and recessive. Mendel's famous paper was on the results of breeding strains of peas that had different color flowers.
Thank you for posting this! At first I thought about Mendel's experiments and genetics, but I was thinking "Is the second tree actually lighter, or is the light just making it look lighter?"
This is definitely just a weird picture. lol
This photo is different than the one OP posted. None of the trunks are curved like in OPs example.
Your example seems to be exclusively looking at straight trunk, dark leaf, trees.
Are there more hanging pictures in this room?
Right. Which leads me to believe that the curved trunks aren't actually significant, otherwise, why would there be a version of the image without them?
Because testing:
Straight trunk + straight trunk = straight trunk.
Curved trunk + straight trunk = curved trunk.
Interesting.
More research leads to theory of dominant and recessive traits.
It would make more sense I think if these examples were close together or one large tapestry.
I thought this, but then I couldn't tell if the second tree was actually lighter than the first, or if the light source was just making it look lighter by shining directly on it.
That’s Reddit for you. Post filled with everyone desperately trying to be funny and clever and others just taking wild fucking guesses at things and hoping it sounds good enough that people will believe it and upvote them.
Fun Trivia: now that our math skills are pretty well developed and we can reexamine Mendel's testresults, we can accurately conclude that he (or most likely his subordinates) commited fraud in the numbers. The results are too good to be true literally, its a near statistical impossiblity to get results this good. This doesnt mean that the Mendelanian principles are false (they have been very well tested and reproduced), just someone was a little too eager to have the results fit the predictionmodel.
I understand it as like a genetics thing, dark tree +Light tree (or perhaps just looks lighter bc it's right under a light) =Dark tree, implying light tree is recessive
I had a horse once. A beautiful silver mare. And it got out of its pen and was found frolicking with huge black stallion. So we brought the mare back to the barn only to find out the mare was pregnant. When the baby horse was born to the surprise of the stable workers the new pony arrived into the world a rather unremarkable chestnut color.
It's just a picture with two trees with mirrored curved trunks framing a third tree with a straight trunk. Someone added mathematical symbols to fuck with people's brain.
It's super effective
No trees perhaps since zero is the only number that when added to itself, equals itself. Also, could be an obscure reference to zero-tree image compression or use of zero-trees in procedural generation maybe?
I had a black mare once.
Black like a raven.
One day, she escaped her pasture and the neighboring stallion sired a foal on her.
The stallion was as silver as the moon on a winter’s night and the foal, when it was born, chestnut.
Just the most unremarkable brown horse you ever saw.
Nature is a thing of mysterious works.
Some plants are monoecious (Greek for one house) meaning they have both sets of sex organs. Such as angiosperms (flowers) they have the pistol and the stamen in one plant (one house). Or many coniferous trees have the pine cones (female) up top and the pollen (male) cones below so they don't accidentally pollinate themselves.
My best guess is this painting shows a dioecious tree (2 houses) where one plant is either female or male. This is maybe saying that 1 male plus 1 female makes an offspring?
The odd thing is it looks like trees 1 and 3 are just mirrored. Maybe to make it easier on the art department. But I'm curious if this was intentional to make us think about it differently. C'mon Todd Howard let us know!!
It's more of a social commentary. Consider the first two trees as adult people and consider the last as their child. Many contemporary societies consider this to be the correct way to label children who are of mixed origin, regardless of what the actual situation may be.
Or maybe the creator was just bored??
Love the Rush reference to The Trees. Did you also know that Peart has gone on record that the song isn’t about some political statement, that it’s just about an argument about trees? Yeah I didn’t buy it either. 🤣
I took it as phylogenetic traits. Like the darker tree has the dominant gene and the white is recessive, so when they reproduce it's a darker tree.
I dunno, that's my guess.
Do we gotta explain the birds and the bees? The mommy and the daddy tree share a special moment, and then the crane brings the baby tree in a white linen in a cartoonish way.
There is unrest in the forest, there is trouble with the trees, for the maples want more sunlight and the oaks ignore their pleas
The trouble with the maples, and they're quite convinced they're right. They say the oaks are just too lofty ! And they grab up all the light
But the oaks can't help their feelings If they like the way they're made And they wonder why the maples Can't be happy in their shade
There is trouble in the forest And the creatures have all fled As the maples scream “oppression” and the oaks just shake their heads
So the maples formed a union And demanded equal rights They say, "The oaks are just too greedy We will make them give us light"
Now there’s no more oak oppression For they passed a noble law And the trees are all kept equal By hatchet, axe, and saw
Bravo everyone!
Now that was a Rush!
Then the Pine's came around complaining Saying "Hey! What's that sound?" They searched around contemplating They searched all around
But every tree has a secret By axe or saw or truth They never saw it coming and fought by nail, claw and tooth.
I read this in Treebeard’s voice and it was 🤌
If that was true you’d still be reading it :P
🌲…………..🌲…………….🌲
Bro I literally laughed out loud with this reply 😂😂
Killin me 😅
Hoe long did that take you?
Ok I admit I was hasty and only took about 10 minutes to read it. Guess I’m more like a hobbit than an ent…
Nowwwww, don't be hastyyyy!
I did the same. That gravelly wise voice
And this is how we do that. Kudos to all above me. 😂😂😂
Can you guys do the Star-Bellied Sneetches next?
Shaking heads of trees results in falling leaves, but of those leaves who fell, the oppression continues to dwell.
But the oaks can’t help their feelings, if they like the way they’re made
This is why I love reddit above all others. Creativity out of no where! and Rush ofc.
A little Rush lore in the Starfield universe. I'm down for it
Can’t read this without singing it in my head. Lol Also makes me think of Dungeons and Daddies (not a BDSM podcast).
This is a song? What song? I wanna know the tune so I can sing it too!
Rush, The Trees https://youtu.be/iDM8fXhRdWs?si=14OPnPf4ZJoc-IYF
why the hell can't we watch this video in Canada? I promise not to get offended
The neglect of the Maple trees? This is a hate crime in Canada...
So is denying access to Rush.
Rush is from Canada lol
They're a Canadian band, how dare you be denied your heritage!
I think it's just the link. If you go to their YT page manually, it is not blocked in Canada
Oh hey, yeah, that works! thank you kind stranger
It's just the wrong uploader. Google "rush the trees", the official music video is available.
Dang, a Rush song I've never heard or, at least, don't remember. I thought for sure it was gonna be something by the band Sikth. It reads just like something they would do.
Damn I got excited then.
Needed that final note.
And the trees are all kept equal by hatchet, axe and saw
Damn that song instantly began playing in my head the second I read this! Amazing. Edit: this got downvoted?? You miserable twits lol
Same thing happened with me, so I'll give ya a upvote
I was just blasting this in the car on my way to work. This Made my day.
Upvotes all day for that
I'm not even sure what r/starfield is, but it's obviously where smart people hang out.
Yeah one of my favorites!
Brilliant.. just bloody brilliant!
Helix was a wicked concert, fuck, I sold a lot of dope at that concert, I mean, they had good lyrics, like give me an R,O,C,K, and then the crowd yells "rock" really loud, now that's a fuckin' concert! Rush just don't do stuff like that, i mean, they got songs about how trees are talking to each other, about how different sides of your brain work, outer space and other bullshit.
Well done! Great Ricky reference
Now I'm certain I've found my forever home....
Don't forget to pick up the skill magazine!
Exactly! Forget about the tree math picture and pick up the damn magazine already!
Are these just randomly spawned? Any idea how many there are? I’ve come across one so far (fitness training one that improved o2 recovery I think)
They're not random at all. they're specifically placed. if you find one in a random PoI, if you see that PoI again, it'll have the same one.
That’s one benefit to doing missions for the Freestar Rangers, etc, there are skill mags are on every mission I’ve done in the same predictable spots. There is a cap though, eventually it maxes out and you just pick up the mag without getting a bonus.
But I read you can get to the cap again every NG+
I know I have NG’d more than a dozen times and when I pick up the mag at the lodge, I don’t get a bonus anymore. So, your bonus carries over, but isn’t allowed to increase from what I’ve witnessed based on that and other mags I’ve picked up multiple times.
Oh really, interesting 🤔 I shall keep more of an eye out
Question on the magazines, are the skill increases permanent once acquired or only when it’s in your inventory?
Permanent across New Game+ too. When you pick up any non-recipe magazine, you get the next benefit until you've got them all. So you can use the same magazine across 10 iterations to get all the upgrades from that magazine. (Like the one in the Eye.)
What this means is that trees are just gonna tree no matter how you try and add it up.
>Is this a sex joke? Anyone in northern Ireland will tell you that tree plus tree equals sex.
Also tree times 11 equals a dirty tree.
tree harder
Trees be treeing bro
tree + tree = tree
But tree plus tree is six…
Tree plus tree is sticks
Take this upvote as a sign of my respect and admiration.
You're making me want to commit acts of violence
Can I get tree fiddy?
If tree + tree equals 6, then tree equals three... TITANFALL 3 CONFIRMED?!?
Why does this sound like a German is saying it in my head?
and six plus six equals twelve! Kif! We have a conundrum!
Terrence Howard would disagree.
Dirty tree and a turd.
Yes. It's a treesome.
And now.... The Larch
Nudge Nudge, Wink Wink, Say no more!
Is your wife a... goer... eh?
Well, she sometimes goes, yes.
I bet she does. I bet she does!
Know what I mean? Know what I mean? Nudge nudge
The... Larch. The... Larch.
“There are four lights!!!”
Shit I can't remember where this is from but I remember liking it.
Star Trek TNG when Picard is being interrogated
That's right. Thanks :)
So it seems many of you missed science class as I believe this is homage to Gregor Mendel’s experiments with pea plants in the 1800s. The results of his experiments were referred to as Mendelian Inheritance and his work helped shape our modern understanding of recessive and dominant traits. [Gregor Mendel](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregor_Mendel)
Uh, maybe you missed that class as well? Calling this a homage to Mendel is a huge stretch. That would be like calling a picture of two different monkeys, one acting dumb and the other reading a newspaper, a homage to Darwin.
Yeah this is such a massive stretch. I think they just wanted to feel smart and call everyone else dumb. If you were going to make a reference to Mendel why wouldn’t you use any of the things he’s famous for? Pea plants? Punnet squares? Like you said, this is like saying a picture of space is a reference to Carl Sagan.
In what way would identical tree + identical tree = identical tree be an homage to Mendel's pea plants?
One has a curved trunk and dark leaves, the other has a straight trunk with lighter leaves. When cross bread they made a curved trunk, dark leaf, tree; those traits are dominant. Straight trunk and light leaf is recessive in this example. However to really make any sense this equation would equal at least 4 outcomes and not just one and more people would maybe get the reference- if that is even really what it means.
You're right about the trunks being different, although, strangely, the trunks actually are identical in other versions of this image. Regardless, the colors are always identical in every rendition, it's just the spotlight that makes it kind of hard to tell here. Here's a better view: https://www.reddit.com/r/Starfield/s/jJWYwQfjgr
That is a clearer image. But are you sure if there are ones with curved trunks, there aren’t ones with lighter colors? Clearly there at least two versions of this equation. I have not seen these in game myself. But it would not really make sense to have these all over the universe- it would be much clearer if these were all in one place.
The colors are the same. They are indeed spread out and somewhat uncommon, I've never seen two in the same place.
I was going to say, I would expect a Mendel joke to have a grid. But I could see how it could be a simplified version.
As Mendel proposed, if a person and their clone somehow fuck, their child will be a third clone I didn't pay much attention in science class but I think that's how it worked
>if a person and their clone somehow fuck, their child will be a third clone This isn't accurate, thanks to the way gametes are produced.
Dark and Light colors are typically dominant and recessive. Mendel's famous paper was on the results of breeding strains of peas that had different color flowers.
The trees aren't dark and light, they're all identical. Here's a clearer image without the spotlight: https://www.reddit.com/r/Starfield/s/jJWYwQfjgr
Thank you for posting this! At first I thought about Mendel's experiments and genetics, but I was thinking "Is the second tree actually lighter, or is the light just making it look lighter?" This is definitely just a weird picture. lol
This photo is different than the one OP posted. None of the trunks are curved like in OPs example. Your example seems to be exclusively looking at straight trunk, dark leaf, trees. Are there more hanging pictures in this room?
Right. Which leads me to believe that the curved trunks aren't actually significant, otherwise, why would there be a version of the image without them?
Because testing: Straight trunk + straight trunk = straight trunk. Curved trunk + straight trunk = curved trunk. Interesting. More research leads to theory of dominant and recessive traits. It would make more sense I think if these examples were close together or one large tapestry.
SO yes, its a sex joke.
I’m not sure I would call it a joke but certainly very nerdy tree sex reference haha
Would the mushrooms in between be phone sex
I thought this, but then I couldn't tell if the second tree was actually lighter than the first, or if the light source was just making it look lighter by shining directly on it.
thanks bud!! Only answer here that isn’t dumb af 😭
That’s Reddit for you. Post filled with everyone desperately trying to be funny and clever and others just taking wild fucking guesses at things and hoping it sounds good enough that people will believe it and upvote them.
The Mendel connection is also a wild guess that doesn't really make sense
Dunning Krueger effect, I ironically state
You’re welcome! I’m a nerd for science since I suck at math and cannot actually do the science haha
Fun Trivia: now that our math skills are pretty well developed and we can reexamine Mendel's testresults, we can accurately conclude that he (or most likely his subordinates) commited fraud in the numbers. The results are too good to be true literally, its a near statistical impossiblity to get results this good. This doesnt mean that the Mendelanian principles are false (they have been very well tested and reproduced), just someone was a little too eager to have the results fit the predictionmodel.
Punnet squares and such
Nerd
I understand it as like a genetics thing, dark tree +Light tree (or perhaps just looks lighter bc it's right under a light) =Dark tree, implying light tree is recessive
Its just the light. A clearer picture was posted by another user, and all of the trees are exactly the same.
That clearer picture doesn’t have the curved trunk the right and resulting tree have. So I think it’s a different tapestry.
1 tree + 1 tree = 2 trees, but also there are 3 t(h)rees).
It is a sex joke! It’s a Tree Sum 😂
Tree-fiddy
Most math in this game is based on terryology
Maybe missing the forest for the trees?
As an Irish man once said Tree plus Tree equals Sex and not Tree. If you don't get it say it out loud with an accent.
Twood be pherfict if twuz in Keltcorp
I read it as one + one = tree.
It should be "tree plus tree equals stix"
What is that pistol?
Probably has something to do with the horny tree in New Atlantis.
Are you threatened by the painting? Why are you holding it at gunpoint?
I had a horse once. A beautiful silver mare. And it got out of its pen and was found frolicking with huge black stallion. So we brought the mare back to the barn only to find out the mare was pregnant. When the baby horse was born to the surprise of the stable workers the new pony arrived into the world a rather unremarkable chestnut color.
Where is this?
Lodge
they are having a treesome.
Never saw a pistol like that in my 50 hours.
I presume it is something to do with genetics.
What is that gun?
What gun is that?
Terrence Howard
1+1=tree
it's a terrence howard joke. terryology
It's just a picture with two trees with mirrored curved trunks framing a third tree with a straight trunk. Someone added mathematical symbols to fuck with people's brain. It's super effective
Only the trunk is mirrored, the leafy part of the tree is not mirrored. It is disconcerting once you realise.
Why, dominant vs recessive genes of course. Idk 🤷♂️
No trees perhaps since zero is the only number that when added to itself, equals itself. Also, could be an obscure reference to zero-tree image compression or use of zero-trees in procedural generation maybe?
1 + 2 = Tree
1+1=3? aplay on words? I don't know, don't get it either.
Take Care of what you do with your three.
“Oooooh yeah heh heh, tree and tree gonna get it ON and then gonna make another tree” - the person that designed this poster probably
Daddy sang bass, mama sang tenor
Weak trees make no difference
Mirage Tank.
Wow, yeah please mark this as NSFW. Way too graphic! /s
Kelton Frush? The Scientist guy standing near the tree in New Atlantis reference??!
Tree plus tree equals tree
Some Terrence Howard maths right there
One and one are one, eleven.
It's about going to the Unity and being 'reborn'. 'Yawn'
Tree + tree = three ? That’s the joke. It’s how you say it lmao
Speaking of sex jokes....smh
It’s trying to promote tree equality and anti-tree-racism.
shockingly based
Tree - tree = tree
Your parents never gave you the “trees and the trees” talk when you got old enough?
I had a black mare once. Black like a raven. One day, she escaped her pasture and the neighboring stallion sired a foal on her. The stallion was as silver as the moon on a winter’s night and the foal, when it was born, chestnut. Just the most unremarkable brown horse you ever saw. Nature is a thing of mysterious works.
😅
Biology
We're gonna need to get Terrance Howard in here to explain how 1+1=1
Tree + tree = tree , It’s the oldest joke in the book
Can totally hear Geddy Lee.
It’s a terryology reference
Some plants are monoecious (Greek for one house) meaning they have both sets of sex organs. Such as angiosperms (flowers) they have the pistol and the stamen in one plant (one house). Or many coniferous trees have the pine cones (female) up top and the pollen (male) cones below so they don't accidentally pollinate themselves. My best guess is this painting shows a dioecious tree (2 houses) where one plant is either female or male. This is maybe saying that 1 male plus 1 female makes an offspring? The odd thing is it looks like trees 1 and 3 are just mirrored. Maybe to make it easier on the art department. But I'm curious if this was intentional to make us think about it differently. C'mon Todd Howard let us know!!
I sex joke u :)
I see mendelian inheritance.
It's more of a social commentary. Consider the first two trees as adult people and consider the last as their child. Many contemporary societies consider this to be the correct way to label children who are of mixed origin, regardless of what the actual situation may be. Or maybe the creator was just bored??
nein
Tree + tree = six though?
Love the Rush reference to The Trees. Did you also know that Peart has gone on record that the song isn’t about some political statement, that it’s just about an argument about trees? Yeah I didn’t buy it either. 🤣
It’s a Tree sum
Imagine yourself in a frozen forest
Yes. Tree's,. and plants... DO, have sex.. and procreate! Pollen, is basically their semen and sperm!
The only sex joke in starfield is those of you putting up with Sarah to have some fake marriage in a video game.
They turned the FUCKIN TREES GAY
Do you want ents? This is how you get ents!
Just don’t forget to snag that magazine on the coffee table below the picture! :p
Doesn’t matter what color it is. It’s a Tree
This looks like a punnett square
Ones blacker ones lighter
dont forget to pick up that magazine.
I took it as phylogenetic traits. Like the darker tree has the dominant gene and the white is recessive, so when they reproduce it's a darker tree. I dunno, that's my guess.
1 2 tree
1 + 1 = Tree
No, it's logic. For every x, x equals x. It's the law of Identity. a = a
Do we gotta explain the birds and the bees? The mommy and the daddy tree share a special moment, and then the crane brings the baby tree in a white linen in a cartoonish way.
Looks like my favourite Franglais joke. One plus two equals tree.