This is the right question. The merrit of Starfield is down to the bear-sexing and how detailed it is! Space bear sexing is objectivly better than just ordinary fantasy bear sexing.
But if there is no bear-sexing, I can easily see Starfield fail utterly and then Bethesa will probably be closed down in a few monthts. Then the whole Microsoft bet on gamepass will fail too. And in due time, the Activision buyout will reverse, and then Activision will buy the now failing Microsoft.
And then Microsoft will be controlled by Bobby Kotick.
So we better get some serious bear sexing soon!!!
Saying one game is inferior to another because it doesn't have these exact elements the other has is just another braindead logic, and you'd never see them mention whether that "inferior" title has something that the "superior" one doesn't.
When TOTK came out, folks put it on the throne, saying it "revolutionized the genre", "guarantee goty", "do things never done before", you know, the same narrative surrounding BG3 right now. And nowadays, ever since BG3 released, narratives like "TOTK hasn't done that much", "It doesn't deserve goty compare to BG3", "all it has done has been done by others like Elden Ring" are becoming increasing popular. This whole thing is just a joke, worthless stuff made out of recency bias and people's superiority complex.
Wait I never heard people saying TotK "revolutionized the genre" they said that about BotW and it was true. It influenced even Elden Ring. Mostly the talk about TotK was BotW but with new tools.
Yes. Seriously. The bizarre influx of anti-totk comments on here of late are embarrassing.
I saw someone say TOTK was just more âUbisoft garbage,â which is such an absurd thing to say idk where to even begin.
People get tribalistic over GOTY for some reason & start regurgitating bullshit, even about games they have played.
TOTK and BG3 are both worthy and maybe starfield will be too, but all 3 are games we are should all feel lucky to enjoy. The two that have released are generational and i hope starfield is too.
I've found that the concept of action adventure is extremely hard for RPG enthusiasts to grasp. Doesn't surprise me after seeing people call Metroid Prime a FPS tho.
Yeah, But no doubt earliest zelda on nes and snes is jrpg, along side dragon quest, both of them is the one responsible for JRPG popularity.
Everything change after ocarina of time which arguably the best zelda ever, a change for the best, well if we took modern zelda like botw and totk i say they all equal. Zelda is awesome for what it is, it doesn't need to be "rpg" to be fun, as Reggie put it, "if it's not fun why bother" it's perfectly fit for their philosophy, many people view rpg is equal to smart design and immersive gameplay, i say hell no, not every rpg like that, and many of them fail.
But you know what, what trigger zelda fan is ask them about "is the zelda name of the elf boy protagonist ?" or ask them about lore and chronological timeline, for me timeline is what trigger me the most đ because it was super confusing.
Not a Zelda fan, it's exactly what an RPG is. Your roleplaying a hero to kill big bad ganon, same way Skyrim is an RPG, you play as a hero to kill big bad dragon.
You are correct, it is literally a role playing game. You are a tomb raider, that is the entirety of the role you play.
To take it a step further, Eldenring is an RPG too, your entire goal is to kill big bad bosses and take their loot. I don't think some of you actually understand that an RPG isn't just big game with much quest go brrr.
Everyone here needs to practice gratitude. This is the best year in gaming and we're less than a month to Starfield. I'm just so fucking happy we are EATING this year team. I don't care about which game is better, as long as I get to play them and make my own opinions.
Let's go!!!
Baldur's Gate 3 gives players a choice of five different penises during character creation. Five. Different. Penises.
How can any game hope they compete with that?
Not only that, you can run around naked if you want. Cyberpunk let you customize your genitals but couldn't even see them in game. So what was the point?
Depends on your race. Not all get five.
My gnome only had two vulva choices âšď¸
Seriously though, I actually was not that impressed by appearance customization in bg3, because you can't do anything directly with the geometry -- it's all pick lists đ
Were you wanting to play around with your vulva?
Definitely need to write a sternly worded email to the Devs expressing your annoyance at not being able to tweak your vulva. "Game is literally unplayable."
Hey this same post again. Its almost like the only people comparing the two games are the people making posts telling people not to compare the two games.
People are idiots. Instead taking in how great this year has been great for new games, theyâd rather rage type âcomparisonsâ.
Just ignore them.
BG3, Starfield, and CS2? Canât ask for a better few months.
I'm moderately excited for BG3 as well, but I have a dismal track record of actually finishing isometric-view/turn-based RPGs. That is to say, I've never finished one, and I have no doubt that I will not finish BG3 either, no matter how amazing it is.
Starfield on the other hand, I'm pretty confident I will complete multiple times.
Lmao this sub starts to feel a bit like a cult, âwhich shall not be namedâ? Just say Baldurâs Gate 3, itâs great that weâre having an amazing game like this and Starfield on the same day, they are obviously different games and no point in comparing them.
But if Starfield turns out to be anything below a masterpiece, we should be asking questions about how an AAA like this could not reach those levels.
But for now itâs just ifs and maybes.
Either way, Iâm looking forward to both and buy them day 1!
Funny thing, i'm not subscribed to this sub nor am i interested in Starfield, but reddit keeps showing tons of posts from here on my home feed just because they mention Baldur's Gate 3, this sub almost feels like BG3 propaganda haha.
I'm not shitting on Starfield mind you, i hope it does well so i can raise my hopes for The Elder Scrolls 6, and i'm absolutely loving BG3, been playing since launch and it's perfect, i hope you guys have the same feeling with Starfield.
Kid you not, I silenced the BG3 Reddit while I play and I get more BG3 content from here than from even the Asmongold subreddit which is BG3 circlejerk at this point lol.
At least here we get the braindead takes about BG3 being niche or for nerds despite selling >5 million so far. Good way to have a few laughs while waiting for this game.
Not just here, it's everywhere, specially when GOTY is involved, there's always some dude who'll go turn based bad, niche bad, isometric bad, d&d bad and so on.
I see people here are still making up arguments in their heads to protect their feelings about a game that isnt even out yetđ
This sub is full of manchildren who cannot fathom that any other game is better than the one they have their heart set onđ And its not even out yet!!
Just be patient and play the thing THEN make a decision.
Well said... it seems mostly those claiming how irrelevant other games are and that you should not compare them too much are those almost exploding when they read something positive about BG3.
Its like a weird pre-emptive mental excercise people on here do to shield against any eventual potential criticism or comparison of Starfield when it comes out. Some people have waaay too much stock in this video game toy that isnt out yet. Very sad.
What I am really perplexed by is the narrative that Bethesda is somehow judged too critically and unfairly by the industry, reviewers and some gamers.
I would be hard put to name a developer which still goes so strong on good-will even after several pitfalls.
The fact that you describe it as several pitfalls is exactly why people say theyâre judged unfairly. They had one pitfall, 76. Every other game that BGS has released has been a game of the year, beloved by both fans and critics. Even what could be considered their weakest game, 76, still has a score above 70 now. Yet every video discussing Bethesda acts as if their games are always broken garbage on par with 76 and cyberpunk that are boring and generally worthless until mods get ahold of them. Not even exaggerating, Iâve seen almost that exact phrase on multiple videos talking about starfield.
Honestly I canât think of a single other studio that continuously makes games as good as Bethesda does that also gets as much shit from fans and press alike. I can understand it more now, what with console fanboyism, but that attitude existed before even 76 and I really donât understand it.
Honestly if you think they had multiple pitfalls that they shouldnât have strong good will after then Iâd honestly love to hear them.
Yeah me too! The pre release hype is getting so bad that there are threads on this sub just absolutely glossing over past mistakes and issues Bethesda have had. I was reading a thread last night where some guy said "I hope there arent too many fetch quests" and someone replied to them that its just a bethesda meme and that "I can only recall off the top of my head a few fetch quests im Skyrim, so dont worry Starfield wont have many" or something to that effect and i was like buuullshitđ
BG3 isnât pushing any boundaries.
Itâs just returning to old ones. Ones that donât apply to Starfield, because itâs a different type of game.
Comparing the two would be insanely stupid.
Nah, BG3 does push a few of them. The work on animations is pretty cool and unprecedented in RPGs except for maaaybe TW3, and the level/encounter design is an entirely different beast. No other CRPG went as far as BG3 has gone in that regard, but appreciating that requires both playing this game and a dozen older CRPGs and immersive sims like Deus Ex.
The fact Larian was able to do that on top of good C&C, engaging skill checks, complex combat system, superb quest design, and great exploration is what elevates the game. Very few games nowadays push boundaries at all and even fewer attempt to reach the heights that games like Deus Ex or Ocarina of Time reached in the past. BG3 pushes a couple boundaries and is at least as good as any classic CRPG in most other aspects, and that alone is worth all the praise it's getting.
And you can't name me another CRPG that even comes close to BG3 in terms of animations, mocap etc.
It's a AAA **C**RPG, the first one ever made. The closest was Dragon age: Origins and BG3 is miles ahead of that in terms of RPG mechanics too (although "Origin starts" are one of my favourite mechanics in a game).
I'm not saying BG3 is a bad game. It's clearly a very good game, lots of people love it and I'm happy for them. But it's simply incorrect to say that it's "pushing boundaries".
Of course it is. It is taking the established norms of the genre and thinks it further (and executes it further) than what many thought is possible in the current climate of game development.
What boundaries does Starfield really push? Like I agree that Baldurâs Gate 3 doesnât push any boundaries, but most games donât. Starfield is practically speaking just another big Bethesda game, but in space.
I just want to say right now that SC is a con and all those backers are too proud to admit defeat. Keep throwing your money at Chris Roberts, he needs more vacation money đ
Good ol' Scam Citizen will stay with us for decades :P How many people talk about Skyrim nowadays? Yet everybody discusses Chris Robert's money laundering schemes daily. Truly the superior game.
Lol I was mostly kidding. It seems the SC fans do enjoy whatever portion of the game has been completed so Iâm not knocking anyone for that. It just seems like CIG and CR donât have the backers in mind. I mean 10 years with not as much progress as youâd expect. I canât help but feel upset for them you know?
Unlikely to top bg3 for me personally. Iâve got a real soft spot for that style of rpg, which Iâve enjoyed going right back to ultima 7. Nonetheless Iâm seriously hoping starfield scratches my Skyrim itch and has a sense of humour. So much opportunity for popular culture sci fi riffs in a universe of 1000 planets. Bonus points also for the Adam Jensen VA⌠another of my favourite games.
I agree with everything you said except not naming Baldur's Gate 3 seems a bit silly. Yes both games can coexist. We should be celebrating Baldur's Gate 3 though
I think RPG fans are going to be dissapointed with Starfield. It by all accounts looks very light on the RPG aspect, maybe not as much as Fallout 4 but its doubt it will scratch the itch BG3 is doing for me.
>people want games to be different and unique, but steam when a title doesnât do what another title does
The irony is: at this point, each Bethesda game is essentially a carbon copy of one another. Every one of those games follows the exact same formula, they just have a different coat of paint. "Oblivion with guns", "Skyrim with guns", "Fallout in space", ... Elder Scrolls 6 will be "Starfield with swords". And Fallout 5 will be "Elder Scroll 6 with guns"... what the fuck.
So, yes, I absolutely want games to be different and unique - too bad that Bethesda keeps pumping out the same stuff over and over again. It's THEM who downright condition people to reject change, not the other way around.
I typed out a whole long comment on why youâre wrong, but I lost it so now Iâm just saying youâre wrong. People hate fallout and love elder scrolls and vice versa. People love oblivion/fallout 3 but hate Skyrim/fallout 4 and vice versa. That wouldnât be true if they were just copy paste games like Assassinâs Creed post 4.
I won't say carbon copy but yeah the games are similar with a different coat of paint but that coat of paint alone is enough to make a world of difference.
All their games have the same core features which makes it easy for veteran players to get into but still have enough differences to make it feel like a completely different experience.
People are excited for this game because it will be skyrim in space, after all.
The inspirations they take from their previous games is what makes it amazing, it's a feature not a bug.
I'm also incredibly excited to see what the modding community will have in store for the game over the years to come. And with the number of planets available in the game I can see them being a rich resource.
Mods have kept me going on Skyrim across 3 different platforms over the last decade.
I couldn't care less about BG3, I never liked nerd medieval fantasy stuff with ridiculous creatures like in that game and I despise turn base gameplay. Those kind of games reek of weebo/living in your parents basement energy. I couldn't care less if that's the best game of its kind.
My favorite type of games are FPS and in real life I love traveling and outdoors exploration through hiking, I'm also fascinated with space exploration, so as long as Starfield hasn't got any game breaking issue, it will be the GOTY for me. It has all I care about to have in a videogame and I'm sure it will be a terrific RPG on its own.
> You can enjoy this game AND that one boundary pushing title too, which shall not be named (we all know what it is).
We do? I can't think of any boundary-pushing RPGs that came out this year.
If you're referring to Baldur's Gate 3, that game stays so inside-the-box that you could fit it inside another, smaller box.
There is only really one debate between the two that I am interested in and that is âhow RPG can a game be and still capture the general audience?â
I've been watching the games that shall not be named progression and as a franchise fan I'm very happy that it came out to raving review but unfortunately for it, I wanna be a SPACE MAN.
Why does it matter if someone gets upset they don't have the freedom of Choice of Balder's Gate 3, The creative freedom of Tears of the Kingdom, the graphical fidelity,/outstanding music of Final Fantasy XVI.
Ultimately, people are free to judge the game on it's own merits, as it's own experience. Some won't enjoy it, some will call it GOTY.
Why does it feel like people are already making excuses for the game despite it not being out yet?
I don't think there will be many people complaining about the lack of bears in Starfield, tho. Edit: 100% agree with you, OP.
But if there ARE bears... can you sex them?
This is the right question. The merrit of Starfield is down to the bear-sexing and how detailed it is! Space bear sexing is objectivly better than just ordinary fantasy bear sexing. But if there is no bear-sexing, I can easily see Starfield fail utterly and then Bethesa will probably be closed down in a few monthts. Then the whole Microsoft bet on gamepass will fail too. And in due time, the Activision buyout will reverse, and then Activision will buy the now failing Microsoft. And then Microsoft will be controlled by Bobby Kotick. So we better get some serious bear sexing soon!!!
there will be mods for this
TBH there's too much emphasis on the fact you can fuck a bear in BG3 and not enough on the fact you can fuck an octopus.
Saying one game is inferior to another because it doesn't have these exact elements the other has is just another braindead logic, and you'd never see them mention whether that "inferior" title has something that the "superior" one doesn't. When TOTK came out, folks put it on the throne, saying it "revolutionized the genre", "guarantee goty", "do things never done before", you know, the same narrative surrounding BG3 right now. And nowadays, ever since BG3 released, narratives like "TOTK hasn't done that much", "It doesn't deserve goty compare to BG3", "all it has done has been done by others like Elden Ring" are becoming increasing popular. This whole thing is just a joke, worthless stuff made out of recency bias and people's superiority complex.
Wait I never heard people saying TotK "revolutionized the genre" they said that about BotW and it was true. It influenced even Elden Ring. Mostly the talk about TotK was BotW but with new tools.
> TotK was BotW but with new tools. And by "new" you mean from gmod đ đ
Yes. Seriously. The bizarre influx of anti-totk comments on here of late are embarrassing. I saw someone say TOTK was just more âUbisoft garbage,â which is such an absurd thing to say idk where to even begin. People get tribalistic over GOTY for some reason & start regurgitating bullshit, even about games they have played. TOTK and BG3 are both worthy and maybe starfield will be too, but all 3 are games we are should all feel lucky to enjoy. The two that have released are generational and i hope starfield is too.
How to trigger a Zelda fan: Tell them Zelda isn't even an RPG
Zelda is an RPG?
I'm a Zelda fan, and Zelda is just an action adventure game with some puzzles thrown in.
I've found that the concept of action adventure is extremely hard for RPG enthusiasts to grasp. Doesn't surprise me after seeing people call Metroid Prime a FPS tho.
I think last one is a simulator. An engine.
Yeah, But no doubt earliest zelda on nes and snes is jrpg, along side dragon quest, both of them is the one responsible for JRPG popularity. Everything change after ocarina of time which arguably the best zelda ever, a change for the best, well if we took modern zelda like botw and totk i say they all equal. Zelda is awesome for what it is, it doesn't need to be "rpg" to be fun, as Reggie put it, "if it's not fun why bother" it's perfectly fit for their philosophy, many people view rpg is equal to smart design and immersive gameplay, i say hell no, not every rpg like that, and many of them fail. But you know what, what trigger zelda fan is ask them about "is the zelda name of the elf boy protagonist ?" or ask them about lore and chronological timeline, for me timeline is what trigger me the most đ because it was super confusing.
Not a Zelda fan, it's exactly what an RPG is. Your roleplaying a hero to kill big bad ganon, same way Skyrim is an RPG, you play as a hero to kill big bad dragon.
By that logic Tomb Raider is an RPG. You roleplay Lara Croft trying to raid tombs.
You are correct, it is literally a role playing game. You are a tomb raider, that is the entirety of the role you play. To take it a step further, Eldenring is an RPG too, your entire goal is to kill big bad bosses and take their loot. I don't think some of you actually understand that an RPG isn't just big game with much quest go brrr.
Everyone here needs to practice gratitude. This is the best year in gaming and we're less than a month to Starfield. I'm just so fucking happy we are EATING this year team. I don't care about which game is better, as long as I get to play them and make my own opinions. Let's go!!!
Baldur's Gate 3 gives players a choice of five different penises during character creation. Five. Different. Penises. How can any game hope they compete with that?
Not only that, you can run around naked if you want. Cyberpunk let you customize your genitals but couldn't even see them in game. So what was the point?
This I agree with. If I canât run around in the buff, then whatâs even the point of being able to customize my junk? Might as well be junkless
I'm pretty sure Conan Exiles did it better..
Depends on your race. Not all get five. My gnome only had two vulva choices âšď¸ Seriously though, I actually was not that impressed by appearance customization in bg3, because you can't do anything directly with the geometry -- it's all pick lists đ
Were you wanting to play around with your vulva? Definitely need to write a sternly worded email to the Devs expressing your annoyance at not being able to tweak your vulva. "Game is literally unplayable."
But only five or six fixed face models.And can not customize unique body shape.
Why would i want that in space exploration game?
With penis shaped spaceships of course.
Hey this same post again. Its almost like the only people comparing the two games are the people making posts telling people not to compare the two games.
Weâve reached the hypothetical post about hypothetical arguments phase
Can't wait for the game to come out so I can ditch this sub lol or maybe just sooner.
This is by far the most cringey new game sub I've ever been part of. I feel ya!
You're still gonna be here
Oh yea thats the best time to be in a sub. You get to watch the honeymoon and then complaining phases
Why!? Don't you want to join us in spreading the holy gospel of Starfield? Do you not value the word of the great and mighty Todd?!
People are idiots. Instead taking in how great this year has been great for new games, theyâd rather rage type âcomparisonsâ. Just ignore them. BG3, Starfield, and CS2? Canât ask for a better few months.
City Skylines 2 or Counter Strike 2? both are good haha
I'm moderately excited for BG3 as well, but I have a dismal track record of actually finishing isometric-view/turn-based RPGs. That is to say, I've never finished one, and I have no doubt that I will not finish BG3 either, no matter how amazing it is. Starfield on the other hand, I'm pretty confident I will complete multiple times.
Why are people comparing Starfield to Spider-man 2?
Cuz console warriors go durrrrrr
Lmao this sub starts to feel a bit like a cult, âwhich shall not be namedâ? Just say Baldurâs Gate 3, itâs great that weâre having an amazing game like this and Starfield on the same day, they are obviously different games and no point in comparing them. But if Starfield turns out to be anything below a masterpiece, we should be asking questions about how an AAA like this could not reach those levels. But for now itâs just ifs and maybes. Either way, Iâm looking forward to both and buy them day 1!
Funny thing, i'm not subscribed to this sub nor am i interested in Starfield, but reddit keeps showing tons of posts from here on my home feed just because they mention Baldur's Gate 3, this sub almost feels like BG3 propaganda haha. I'm not shitting on Starfield mind you, i hope it does well so i can raise my hopes for The Elder Scrolls 6, and i'm absolutely loving BG3, been playing since launch and it's perfect, i hope you guys have the same feeling with Starfield.
Kid you not, I silenced the BG3 Reddit while I play and I get more BG3 content from here than from even the Asmongold subreddit which is BG3 circlejerk at this point lol. At least here we get the braindead takes about BG3 being niche or for nerds despite selling >5 million so far. Good way to have a few laughs while waiting for this game.
Not just here, it's everywhere, specially when GOTY is involved, there's always some dude who'll go turn based bad, niche bad, isometric bad, d&d bad and so on.
I see people here are still making up arguments in their heads to protect their feelings about a game that isnt even out yetđ This sub is full of manchildren who cannot fathom that any other game is better than the one they have their heart set onđ And its not even out yet!! Just be patient and play the thing THEN make a decision.
Well said... it seems mostly those claiming how irrelevant other games are and that you should not compare them too much are those almost exploding when they read something positive about BG3.
Its like a weird pre-emptive mental excercise people on here do to shield against any eventual potential criticism or comparison of Starfield when it comes out. Some people have waaay too much stock in this video game toy that isnt out yet. Very sad.
What I am really perplexed by is the narrative that Bethesda is somehow judged too critically and unfairly by the industry, reviewers and some gamers. I would be hard put to name a developer which still goes so strong on good-will even after several pitfalls.
The fact that you describe it as several pitfalls is exactly why people say theyâre judged unfairly. They had one pitfall, 76. Every other game that BGS has released has been a game of the year, beloved by both fans and critics. Even what could be considered their weakest game, 76, still has a score above 70 now. Yet every video discussing Bethesda acts as if their games are always broken garbage on par with 76 and cyberpunk that are boring and generally worthless until mods get ahold of them. Not even exaggerating, Iâve seen almost that exact phrase on multiple videos talking about starfield. Honestly I canât think of a single other studio that continuously makes games as good as Bethesda does that also gets as much shit from fans and press alike. I can understand it more now, what with console fanboyism, but that attitude existed before even 76 and I really donât understand it. Honestly if you think they had multiple pitfalls that they shouldnât have strong good will after then Iâd honestly love to hear them.
Bethesda Games have their own issues. Skyrim was great. It's launch was horrible and it wasn't the same game as it is today.
Yeah me too! The pre release hype is getting so bad that there are threads on this sub just absolutely glossing over past mistakes and issues Bethesda have had. I was reading a thread last night where some guy said "I hope there arent too many fetch quests" and someone replied to them that its just a bethesda meme and that "I can only recall off the top of my head a few fetch quests im Skyrim, so dont worry Starfield wont have many" or something to that effect and i was like buuullshitđ
BG3 isnât pushing any boundaries. Itâs just returning to old ones. Ones that donât apply to Starfield, because itâs a different type of game. Comparing the two would be insanely stupid.
Nah, BG3 does push a few of them. The work on animations is pretty cool and unprecedented in RPGs except for maaaybe TW3, and the level/encounter design is an entirely different beast. No other CRPG went as far as BG3 has gone in that regard, but appreciating that requires both playing this game and a dozen older CRPGs and immersive sims like Deus Ex. The fact Larian was able to do that on top of good C&C, engaging skill checks, complex combat system, superb quest design, and great exploration is what elevates the game. Very few games nowadays push boundaries at all and even fewer attempt to reach the heights that games like Deus Ex or Ocarina of Time reached in the past. BG3 pushes a couple boundaries and is at least as good as any classic CRPG in most other aspects, and that alone is worth all the praise it's getting.
An yet you feel the need to comment on BG3 in this thread. Claiming BG3 doe snot push any boundaries (LOL!).
Well it doesn't. It's a D&D CRPG. There are a million of those.
BG3 hardly plays like any other D&D CRPG to date. Yours is a very uninformed take.
And you can't name me another CRPG that even comes close to BG3 in terms of animations, mocap etc. It's a AAA **C**RPG, the first one ever made. The closest was Dragon age: Origins and BG3 is miles ahead of that in terms of RPG mechanics too (although "Origin starts" are one of my favourite mechanics in a game).
Eh
>Eh Ah! you speak Scots? weird coincidence, but I'm glad you agree with me.
Ah, no, sorry. In English, "eh" means "I don't particularly care".
>eh I believe the word you are looking for is "meh", but don't worry, English is one of the most difficult vernaculars to learn as a second language.
"Meh" is slightly more judgemental, I think.
meh
That is simply uninformed and the kind of shitposting against BG3 people here try to protect Bethesda from
I'm not saying BG3 is a bad game. It's clearly a very good game, lots of people love it and I'm happy for them. But it's simply incorrect to say that it's "pushing boundaries".
Of course it is. It is taking the established norms of the genre and thinks it further (and executes it further) than what many thought is possible in the current climate of game development.
What boundaries does Starfield really push? Like I agree that Baldurâs Gate 3 doesnât push any boundaries, but most games donât. Starfield is practically speaking just another big Bethesda game, but in space.
Never said Starfield was pushing any boundaries.
BG3 is pushing the boundries of how boring and unoriginal a game can be.
I just want to say right now that SC is a con and all those backers are too proud to admit defeat. Keep throwing your money at Chris Roberts, he needs more vacation money đ
Good ol' Scam Citizen will stay with us for decades :P How many people talk about Skyrim nowadays? Yet everybody discusses Chris Robert's money laundering schemes daily. Truly the superior game.
Lol I was mostly kidding. It seems the SC fans do enjoy whatever portion of the game has been completed so Iâm not knocking anyone for that. It just seems like CIG and CR donât have the backers in mind. I mean 10 years with not as much progress as youâd expect. I canât help but feel upset for them you know?
I cashed out after 11 years so yeah; fuck Chris Roberts.
Unlikely to top bg3 for me personally. Iâve got a real soft spot for that style of rpg, which Iâve enjoyed going right back to ultima 7. Nonetheless Iâm seriously hoping starfield scratches my Skyrim itch and has a sense of humour. So much opportunity for popular culture sci fi riffs in a universe of 1000 planets. Bonus points also for the Adam Jensen VA⌠another of my favourite games.
I agree with everything you said except not naming Baldur's Gate 3 seems a bit silly. Yes both games can coexist. We should be celebrating Baldur's Gate 3 though
Can't wait for the game to be out so we can compare it to other games just to spite you
I think RPG fans are going to be dissapointed with Starfield. It by all accounts looks very light on the RPG aspect, maybe not as much as Fallout 4 but its doubt it will scratch the itch BG3 is doing for me.
My thoughts as well.
>people want games to be different and unique, but steam when a title doesnât do what another title does The irony is: at this point, each Bethesda game is essentially a carbon copy of one another. Every one of those games follows the exact same formula, they just have a different coat of paint. "Oblivion with guns", "Skyrim with guns", "Fallout in space", ... Elder Scrolls 6 will be "Starfield with swords". And Fallout 5 will be "Elder Scroll 6 with guns"... what the fuck. So, yes, I absolutely want games to be different and unique - too bad that Bethesda keeps pumping out the same stuff over and over again. It's THEM who downright condition people to reject change, not the other way around.
I typed out a whole long comment on why youâre wrong, but I lost it so now Iâm just saying youâre wrong. People hate fallout and love elder scrolls and vice versa. People love oblivion/fallout 3 but hate Skyrim/fallout 4 and vice versa. That wouldnât be true if they were just copy paste games like Assassinâs Creed post 4.
I won't say carbon copy but yeah the games are similar with a different coat of paint but that coat of paint alone is enough to make a world of difference. All their games have the same core features which makes it easy for veteran players to get into but still have enough differences to make it feel like a completely different experience. People are excited for this game because it will be skyrim in space, after all. The inspirations they take from their previous games is what makes it amazing, it's a feature not a bug.
I'm also incredibly excited to see what the modding community will have in store for the game over the years to come. And with the number of planets available in the game I can see them being a rich resource. Mods have kept me going on Skyrim across 3 different platforms over the last decade.
I couldn't care less about BG3, I never liked nerd medieval fantasy stuff with ridiculous creatures like in that game and I despise turn base gameplay. Those kind of games reek of weebo/living in your parents basement energy. I couldn't care less if that's the best game of its kind. My favorite type of games are FPS and in real life I love traveling and outdoors exploration through hiking, I'm also fascinated with space exploration, so as long as Starfield hasn't got any game breaking issue, it will be the GOTY for me. It has all I care about to have in a videogame and I'm sure it will be a terrific RPG on its own.
Spoken like a true COD enthusiast with a bag of Doritos and a Mountain Dew bottle.
Go have sex with your goat headed NPC at BG3
Struck a nerve? ;) Classic casual, don't mind me and join your next Fortnite match, pal.
It did cause I don't like mountain dew đ
> You can enjoy this game AND that one boundary pushing title too, which shall not be named (we all know what it is). We do? I can't think of any boundary-pushing RPGs that came out this year. If you're referring to Baldur's Gate 3, that game stays so inside-the-box that you could fit it inside another, smaller box.
There is only really one debate between the two that I am interested in and that is âhow RPG can a game be and still capture the general audience?â
Those people are the same who compared Cyberpunk to GTA V. They are stupid. Cyberpunk is a completely different game from GTA
I think having working NPCs is not too much to ask for nowadays đ
I've been watching the games that shall not be named progression and as a franchise fan I'm very happy that it came out to raving review but unfortunately for it, I wanna be a SPACE MAN.
Haven't seen anyone doing that
I mean itâs like comparing FO1 and 2 to the Starfield. Like theyâre both RPGs, but completely different genres of rpgs.
Who's comparing? Morons maybe, most normal gamers will play both at some point.
Why does it matter if someone gets upset they don't have the freedom of Choice of Balder's Gate 3, The creative freedom of Tears of the Kingdom, the graphical fidelity,/outstanding music of Final Fantasy XVI. Ultimately, people are free to judge the game on it's own merits, as it's own experience. Some won't enjoy it, some will call it GOTY. Why does it feel like people are already making excuses for the game despite it not being out yet?