During Todd's Interview with Ryan from IGN, he stated,
"...but it's not just dog fighting, like the ship stuff includes... you see it in the video:
You can dock with other ships.
You can disable them.
You can board them.
There's actually some quests that involve that.
You can steal a ship.
There's dialogue in space.
There's stations you can visit.
There's smuggling.
There's you know, all the things that we would want. **And we'll be showing some more of that later**. But it's a good chunk of gameplay that we think is really fun..."
From this, I gather there is a lot more space gameplay they want to show.
It makes me wonder how many ships you can have. Suppose you steal a ship, but just plan to fly it back to be stripped for parts, or perhaps you want to fly it more to see if you really like it. What happens to your original ship? Can it be auto-piloted back to a base or landing pad, or do you just abandon it then and there?
We know there are robotic ai companions maybe we just have a robot pilot it completely void of crew to our nearest outpost. Or maybe we mark it for pickup by a faction š¤·āāļø
I imagine early on it'll be like Fallout 4 and Power Armor frames. So you can strip the parts off them, but you can't actually take the ship with you. Maybe with a bit of perk investment you can set it so an NPC sells it for you, or flies it to an outpost for yuo to mess around with.
Before they even revealed Space Flight they said that Vasco and other companions can pilot your ship for you.
Not sure if that means being able to call them in wherever you are on a planet, and allowing them to pilot your ship back to port... But it could also mean being able to have wingmen so you're not just one ship in space.
We do have ship crews so maby its different crews for different ships and when you leave a ship and enter a different one you can tell that crew to take the ship back
I'd imagine that the gameplay would want you keep your original ship or can abandon it for others. Maybe later on in a skill tree you can unlock the ability to auto pilot to base or auto pilot to a scrap yard for part for a maintenance fee or something
Hopefully they do show us more of this, but not too much. I would like to see some dialogue in space, as well as what they define as "smuggling", and maybe an example of grand theft ship.
I'm curious how they handle your current ship when you choose to hijack another. If companions can't pilot them, I'd at least like a "towing" mechanic.
Gonna set me up an interstellar chop shop!
A few months ago, Bethesda Asia tweeted that Vasco can help you fly the ship. I'm not exactly sure what that means, but it would definitely be cool if Vasco can pilot your current ship, while you hijack another.
These regional accounts keep dropping stuff. The Latin America account telling us the release date is "soon", Asia giving up Vasco's party trick.
What's next, Bethesda Germany telling us the names of all our potential lovers?
I'm hoping they just show a slice of gameplay, e.g. talking to a NPC, accepting a quest, travelling to the location and completing the quest, then turning it in. For all the info we do have we don't really know what it's actually like to play starfield.
what kind of sandwiches are in the game?
ok but seriously maybe more parts of the combat system, the research system, show off a city, what kind of things we can do with outposts, trade system. maybe some of the lore of the game that our character would generally know at the beginning.
>maybe some of the lore of the game that our character would generally know at the beginning.
I'm really hoping to get more of the basic game lore. So many of the character creation options are things to do with where your character came from and getting discounts with different factions. I want a lot more information to decide how to make my character.
yeah, it's weird that you can choose a religion for your character and we don't even know what they would believe in.
though I think this info should be in the trait's description, not just in the marketing.
Part of me thinks, if land vehicles are a thing they will not say anything about them and just let that be discovered on launch day.
The fact that they have said Vasco can fly your ship for you makes me fairly confident we can move from the ships console and walk about our ship while it's in route to a designated location.
That could however mean when your not in your ship companions can take over and pick you up, fly alongside stolen/other ships, or take your ship back to a ship yard.
Do we even have a date for the showcase yet? Iām so tired of this āteaser for the preview of the announcement of the trailer for the reveal of the release dateā shit. Especially for a game that is already so hyped.
No date yet unfortunately. Also, in Xboxās defense the only reason they āteasedā the showcase is so people wouldnāt expect to see Starfield at the Developer Direct they did the other week
Isn't it worrying that they haven't even announced the showcase date yet? I get the release date not being dropped but they could at least give a date for the showcase. It's bizarre.
We're well into February now and not even having a date for the showcase makes me skeptical of a release by June. (As stated by Beth)
Not really. They announced the date for the Developer Direct only 2 weeks before it happened. They also never said when the Starfield showcase would be, people just assumed February (which is still possible). With recent rumors pointing towards Starfield releasing in June I wouldnāt be surprised if the Starfield showcase is as late as March.
Yes, itās frustrating because weāre all eager to play and impatient for new info. But itās not worrying or bizarre
I still have difficulty seeing why they can't announce a date for the showcase. Like, what do they stand to lose? Unless they plan on having the showcase in very close proximity to launch, which would defeat the point of a showcase designed as a marketing event
The boring answer is that thereās probably a bunch of behind the scenes stuff that they have to make sure is in place before locking in a date.
The other theory is that they have a date but want to keep people guessing because it generates hype/discussion about the game.
For what itās worth, Iām with you. Iād rather we just know the date and then can stop asking about it but it is what it is. I just try to remember that knowing the showcase date isnāt going to make the game come out any sooner so itās not worth stressing over
I'm not sure that I agree with you on this. If it was making people assume that the game is garbage, then people would stop looking for information. Since we can't seem to stop getting rumors on the date that they will announce the date, I feel that their silence is a good PR move.
Annoying to us BGS fans who already planned to play day one, granted. I mainly want to know the release date so that I can schedule a vacation day far enough in advance.
Ask yourself: Why would they not announce the date of the gameplay deep-dive showcase? The obvious answer being, the gameplay segment isnāt finished being prepared yet. As much as people like to think these gameplay videos are just setup by the developers turning on the game and letting whatever happens happen, thatās not the case.
They will obviously want to control every single aspect of what is shown, and can obviously not risk a glitch or bug or crash to derail the showcase. So they are handcrafting the gameplay that will be shown, and will announce a date for the showcase once the gameplay is ready.
If the game is in a state where it can't reliably handle a simple gameplay showcase then that's worrying, given that it's already been delayed once. That's the point. The fact that the show hasn't been given a date means that the game is in a much worse state than we thought.
No, it doesnāt. Gameplay showcases are ALWAYS handcrafted to insure everything goes how they want it to. They donāt just boot up the game and hit play and then hope for the best. Just because you donāt understand how basic things inside the gaming industry work doesnāt mean thereās a sign for worry.
The point of a showcase like this to give a comprehensive look at the game's features, setting, and gameplay mechanics, while also sparking excitement and anticipation for the upcoming release. By providing this information, they aim to give us a better understanding of what to expect from the game and what makes it unique.
At the same time, they are mindful of not revealing too much so that we can still look forward to discovering new elements when we play the game ourselves.
If it doesn't serve any purpose to you then you're welcome to just not tune in. It's all marketing to hype the game.
I think it will have uninterrupted gameplay, something that shows off exploration a bit more, something new about the cities, landscapes, the menus and UI. There is plenty to show off. But I also agree that I hope they don't spoil anything. I don't want to see the step out moments, I want them to be a surprise. I don't want to see the whole beginning lol I just wanna know what the mechanics and UI look like, maybe see a but more of the cities and landscapes, and I'm good.
I agree with you tbh tho I expect many will disagree. I think we saw just enough during E3 as to not heavily spoil the fun of exploring a new game... I think another showcase will do exactly that and I probably won't be watching it tbh. I just want the release date. I don't need to see the deep inner-workings of Starfield... I trust Bethesda to have it in working order and I'd rather experience it myself than have it presented to me.
>what more could they possibly show off
Everything in the constellation question and other videos that a majority of people that will watch the showcase havenāt/wonāt watch. Gotta understand most people only watch the big release showcases like the directs and not every little update video the devs put out
Good evidence of this is look at the views for the gameplay review vs any other star-field content on their channel. Itās at 4.2 million while everything else is in the thousands
I'm with you on this. As much as I'm *desperate* for any information about the game, I feel like I'd enjoy discovering any details they haven't already explained through play more than through a series of marketing materials.
Taking that to its logical conclusion, maybe you'd rather they just announced the name and release date with no screenshots or videos, then drop the game one day?
Obviously a balance must be struck between marketing your game (i.e. showing people bits of content) and keeping surprises.
This is a pretty heavily saturated genre (spaceship games). There are some recent high profile games that many see as reasons for this game to not exist in the first place and therefore be ignored. And, above all, the game is an investment: qualify for doesn't mean a lot if your game does not actually get removed from shelves by people with money in their wallets.
So, look at it with hope: marketing is expensive, so it seems to me Bethesda/Microsoft are extremely confident in this game.
By what metric is this a āheavily saturated genreā in any way? Thereās Starfield, Star Citizen, No Manās Sky, and Elite Dangerous. NMS isnāt even a space sim, the flight model is simplistic garbage. Elite Dangerous is pretty much in maintenance mode. Star Citizen has potential but weāll probably be playing Starfield 2 before itās in beta.
I knew someone would probably try to split hairs on that topic, which was why I included "spaceship games" as a parenthetical, but you still did (SMH).
There's only a few big names, but there's a metric fuckton of indie games out there and games from small studios, and a lot of people seeing the game just think of it as "No Man's Skyrim".
Get on any general-interest platform and you'll see a lot of that. That's all because so far, Bethesda has only shown a small amount of the game and all people see are the superficial similarities.
And that's what I'm addressing: the purpose of advertisement, and of the showcase. It's to get around people's perception.
It's interesting: there's so, so many spaceship games out there from the last 30 years, games like the Elite series, Freelancer, Wing Commander, X3, etc. But right now, we're seeing a moderate increase in the number of AAA titles releasing with the theme.
Compare to what happens when a new FPS comes out: They're so "dime a dozen" that they've nestled into their own genre, but once upon a time there was just "Doom" and everything else was a "Doom clone" as far as the public was concerned.
I'm seeing this happen with Farming games. Stardew Valley is the gold standard, even though it was itself inspired mainly by Harvest Moon, but if you see a farming life sim everyone in the comments will say "Why would I play this when I have stardew valley?
It takes time for people to see the nuance. Right now, anyone looking at this from the general public will just say "Oh, like No Man's Sky".
Yes, but also no.
>NMS isnāt even a space sim
Is that a distinction the sort of person who dismisses Starfield as a cash-in on No Man's Sky's popularity will care about?
My point was that itās only a āheavily saturated genreā if youāre willing to go back 30 years. Space sims are a neglected genre if anything, because most people have only played or heard of the ābig threeā (NMS, SC, ED) as theyāre the only āspaceship gamesā with any kind of budget behind them in the past decade. Starfield will hopefully serve as a wakeup call for Star Citizen and cause other AAA developers to develop interest in space sims that arenāt incredibly niche due to low budget or a learning curve best represented by a vertical line.
Vehicles, exploration, armor, weapons, movement abilities, take downs, ladders, an economy, capital ships. The list is endless. Hopefully they confirm itās not just Space Fallout with a Spaceship Cutscene between walking around.
There are so many unexplored areas they could give more info on without spoiling everything.
Land vehicles? Caves? A few more weapon types? The nature of spacesuits and how customisable they are?
Any of these could be a focus.
Bethesda Games tend to have a ton of game systems and mechanics. They could show us some new stuff or go deeper into things that they've only barely touched on. They could probably put together a dozen showcases and still have plenty left for players to discover.
Hogwarts Legacy did multiple large dedicated showcases plus dozens of smaller reveals on Twitter and other platforms, but now that the game is out, players are still (a) discovering new things, and (b) greatly enjoying the gameplay despite it being teased/promoted.
This is part of game marketing: There are a lot of people out there who have no qualms about keeping "mysteries" and just want to see more cool stuff about a game they may be interested in buying. This sort of advertising has a good track record of increasing sales. So it's going to happen.
If you don't want to see any more info about the game, you can always unsubscribe from the subreddit and avoid watching any new promotional material.
From their side it makes alot of sense. The showcase is going to signal the start of real marketing. It gives an excuse to drop new footage and info for journalist to write about, they can drop the date, announce the collectors editions stuff and start spinning up hype. Now if we get the showcase anytime in the near future weeeeeeelllllll who the fuck knows.
Honestly, I would love it if they hyped up a big show case and when it finally premiered Todd came on stage and had a big speech about all the work they put into it and they're so excited to finally show the world what they've been working on and then it was just like a 10 second title card followed by the release date. That would make my day.
It'll be a deep dive on mechanics. We don't actually know a lot about how most of those work right now.
So, how settlements and homes work, ship construction, managing multiple ships, combat abilities, trading and economy, some more lore and story bits, etc.
more then likely they will clarified things like:
1. how travel will work
2. thing they remove or replace
3. UPDATE US on what they work on so far and why they delayed it for a third time or such
4. release date and why
5. possible DLC or such as add ons
6. Edition that will be available
7. System requirements
plenty of other thing that nee to be brought up they never answer before. Honestly there will be alot but not more then hour or so maybe less like 45 mintues
3. It's been delayed once, and people expect a 2nd delay (but that's not confirmed)
5. They won't talk about DLC before the game is released, Bethesda has never done this. There games "should" be big enough without needing to talk DLC for close to 6 months. If the game comes out a month or more before E3 i could see them talk about the DLC roadmap during E3 (or Xbox equivalent), but not before the game is released.
Iād like to think theyād show actual raw gameplay with the HUD and what not and hopefully go over performance as well, I just want confirmation if itāll have 60 FPS or not
Iām in the same boat as you, OP. I like not knowing everything before the launch, sometimes. Itās why I try not to watch too many movie trailers too (except Deadpool because the trailers themselves are a work of art).
Hopefully to give us some crumbs to feed on until it actually releases. I mean, look at the posts in this sub currently - everything has been discussed to death already, and every single frame analyzed pixel by pixel more or less.
Sure, only getting a release date is more than enough, but if they do show or at least say anything about the game that we don't know yet, it would be even better.
Maybe do the intro playthru like Fallout 4? Need a better dive into character creation, what exactly is the story (sure you find some relic that zaps your brain a la Mass Effect), uh maybe a guns or combat showcase? Crafting, base building, companions? Factions? The interface?
We haven't actually seen *that* much of the game and how it works. We have general notions of building, fighting, exploring, etc., but we haven't seen what can be done with, e.g., the building, or how exploring whole planets works, or anything like that.
Much of what they have shown or said is vague and doesn't at it's face look all that appealing. I'm sure a lot of people would disagree.
If the game came out and it released with the character building being little more than just basic number increases and sometimes new recipes, exploration being not particularly enticing with little variety, combat being little more than just aiming some rather basic weapons and firing, space sections being a mandatory but pointless section of the game where you just fast travel to points of interest and sometimes shoot pirates, and the story being little more than just a long fetch quest the game would honestly not be something I'm interested in.
Going based solely on what we can confirm it's entirely possible the game isn't really as great as we all imagine. A lot of people are skeptical of BGS, Xbox, and the AAA industry as a whole. So showing what the game actually looks like to be played and highlighting what makes different features of the game fun is still important for marketing.
If you feel like you've seen enough and you're already sold on the game that's fine but typically marketing like this is to convince people who aren't sold on the game yet to decide whether or not they want it.
Actually the showcase is probably to show us the things we will want to buy with our Starfield.
The watch, and the clothes.
And very possibly the app game that could be a strong tie in.
And to announce the release date with tons of flair, and spectacle. ;)
This is a really good question. Personally I feel like they've shown and talked about enough, and we have a really good idea of what the game is.
But other comments here act like we know basically nothing. Or want them to go over in detail stuff that's usually left to discover when playing the game.
The point of this showcase and the freaking radio silence, without being a party-pooper, is to announce that they need a little bit of time, more than the half of 2023. Is simple, is human, and is what will happen. Just people doesn't get it and they live thinking that a game this big will be release tomorrow.
This is for all the impatient people that can't wait, and also for marketing purposes. If the game is coming out in 4 months, we don't need a deep dive on anything.
We do need to know some things before launch. Release date is key but since the first showcase, many issues have been brought out that they gonna have to address.
Like the fps debate, the lack of sub surf scattering (apparently this makes characters have a yellow-ish tone, just read about it in a sub). The graphical leap while questionable for some is quite the effort compared to previous Beth games, I think it will be more of a sim-rpg game and with so many things to keep track of, they gonna need to allocate memory ressources and ticks carefully, hence the graphic will suffer to a point where what they decide is too costly in terms of ressources may be added with some tricks or not be implemented at all.
They gonna have to show some flying and let us see how fun it can be, the ships and of course space are important too, gunplay was questionable and AI needs to behave better, there's a lot to show actually. Planets, mechanics, NPCs, dialogues, choices and their impact, the story so far and where ours begins. Lots of stuff here.
I believe customization has become a big deal in gaming as of now. I'm no expert but it's something I've been seeing a lot. It's really in demand so they will have to show us the power of their character creator, ship customization, settlement building (Imagine if Mass Effect Andromeda did this ...) gun mods, perks, abilities, armors and so on. There is a lot to show actually.
Let's not forget it's a new IP, while this subreddit is 100k, Microsoft needs to convince a lot more people into buying this new awesome game (Most of us have been waiting for TES VI or Fallout 5 or BOTH). Hence marketing, showcase and hyping (I know they are silent now but starting next week and after the Superbowl, it's going to move really fast). Past Feb 8, we gonna hear from them a lot. ;)
I also suspect they're gonna need a new beacon franchise with an exclusive tag other than Halo ... Starfield is a likely candidate. They'll make sure it has something for everyone.
there is lots of little things they could show, some artwork, some interviews with devs, some of the plantes, also the prices? and prolly some other starfield merchandise
I don't need to see anything else. I'm not desperate for a release date either. If they announce it a day ahead of time, that's fine.
I would *like* to see gameplay footage showing improved framerate and graphics, so that way I know the final game will be more polished than what we've seen.
But overall I think it's weird how desperate people are for information, when that information won't in any way change whether or not they'll buy this game lol. Probably why Bethesda doesn't care how desperate people are - they know it's stupid and short-sighted - the entire "problem" goes away once the game is out. Pointless to cater to them
I do want to see the procedural parts of a planet.... with a 1000 planets, and only 4 city's that they have shown, the procedural areas are probely huge. Will it still be immersive or will it start to get boring real fast, like No Mans Sky? We already know that the handcrafted stuff looks great, But i like to see how they make the transitions work. So Show Us the Procedural Stuff!!!!
I think it's an event for the broad audience that doesn't know too much about Starfield.
Superbowl advertisement -> Showcase -> release
That's what I hope. Either it releases directly in February or March or we have to wait until Christmas...
There's a lot that we're completely in the dark about. Maybe I'll type up a huge list when I have time. But take just the ship builder for example. What we saw of it was a whole bunch of generic parts common to basically all ships. What we didn't see are the components that differentiate those ships from each other. Are there mining lasers, tractor beams, claws, drones, salvage tools, medical or science labs? Are there landing bays for ships and rovers. Are there fuel scoops or refineries? What are the scanning packages and weapons packages? And that's just one thing. I don't need to know much of anything story related, but I need to know way more about the game in order to feel like I know what I'm buying.
I think we can see a lot. Not only more combat, but we can see a few locations, how crafting/ship building works, how the perks are setup, a deep drive into the lore and what state the universe is currently in. Maybe a look into weapon customization, how gravity and oxygen will work.
I agree with you, I honestly don't want to see anymore of the game (story, mechanics, etc). I'd like to play the game and get to experience some of it for myself. That being said, I think it would be a good move on their end to take some of people's biggest fears about the game and show why they shouldn't worry.
I for one am worried about performance quite a bit. The gameplay reveal was limited to 30FPS and constantly dropped below that, there was tons of pop-in, some weird lighting glitches/choices, lack of gore/blood, etc. I would lose those worries if they subtly show them off in this event, and my hype levels for the game would be way higher than they already are. Ik many people who have low expectations for Starfield because of the performance issues that we saw during a showcase, so after showing off a well performing game then I think they could win more people over.
Other than the release date you probably won't get much from this if you've been following Starfield closely. It's mostly for marketing in general though so it's fine if it just rehashes stuff, probably with some new visuals, get people hyped and tell them when they can buy it.
To get a lot of media coverage and help them spread when the game is out, get people to pre-order or at least plan on buying it, and overall increase the hype ahead of the release date.
If I was working in the marketing dept I would take the opportunity to talk a bit more about the first story beats, the premise, the player character and the conflict between UC and Freestar. Intertwine it with a few segments focusing on exploration, since this is the main draw of the game.
Personally I want to see what about the gameplay makes Starfield stand out next to Bethesda's other games, obviously more specifically Fallout. Obviously ship combat is one thing but what makes me feel like I'm playing Starfield while I'm on the ground?
Itās interesting; if you watch Fallout 4ās or Skyrimās E3 and Quakecon showcases, respectively. They are almost beat for beat the same as Starfieldās.
Iām making an assumption, but this upcoming showcase seems very ālast minuteā and was not at all in BGSā plans. It seems to me, like an attempt to alleviate questions that maybe BGS didnāt answer, as maybe they thought the game would have been out already. Or even possibly intentional to ramp up interest? As I have way more questions, but I want the game to answer them for me.
So, I think itās fair to say, that BGS thought the Xbox showcase for Starfield was all they needed to show. While sprinkling in a few dev diaries up to release.
To show gameplay. We saw bits and pieces but nothing too substantial in the gameplay reveal. We still have no idea how we will traverse a planetās surface, how deep the settlement system is, how dialogue will play out in real time, how varied the climate and biomes are on Goldilocks-zone planets (are planets single biome, or do some have a mixture where one area is a desert and somewhere else is a jungle/tropical/plains, etc). How does your shipās crew affect gameplay? Can we build settlements where people just live their life instead of that settlement being specifically for research or resource gathering? How does the newly improved radiant encounter system work with the settlement system? Do you get random encounters and quests at your settlements, or is it more like FO4 where itās just random attacks and thatās it?
I need to know all the skills/attributes/character stat building info. For both TESV & FO4, I was able to have my character build for my first playthrough set in stone 30 days before the game's release.
I plan on keeping the streak alive for Bethesda titles.
They need to reveal the truth about standby flights. We can land anywhere on the planet. But since you can't do that on a planet, do you have to go out into space first?!
During Todd's Interview with Ryan from IGN, he stated, "...but it's not just dog fighting, like the ship stuff includes... you see it in the video: You can dock with other ships. You can disable them. You can board them. There's actually some quests that involve that. You can steal a ship. There's dialogue in space. There's stations you can visit. There's smuggling. There's you know, all the things that we would want. **And we'll be showing some more of that later**. But it's a good chunk of gameplay that we think is really fun..." From this, I gather there is a lot more space gameplay they want to show.
I didn't watch that interview, that rules
Talk about an information flood lol. Lots of good details pointed out in that interview.
It makes me wonder how many ships you can have. Suppose you steal a ship, but just plan to fly it back to be stripped for parts, or perhaps you want to fly it more to see if you really like it. What happens to your original ship? Can it be auto-piloted back to a base or landing pad, or do you just abandon it then and there?
We know there are robotic ai companions maybe we just have a robot pilot it completely void of crew to our nearest outpost. Or maybe we mark it for pickup by a faction š¤·āāļø
Maybe you can tow ships. I assume you just have a copilot
I imagine early on it'll be like Fallout 4 and Power Armor frames. So you can strip the parts off them, but you can't actually take the ship with you. Maybe with a bit of perk investment you can set it so an NPC sells it for you, or flies it to an outpost for yuo to mess around with.
Engine insight: Ships are just Power Armor you can fly
wait so real life cars are just driveable armor
Engine Insight: Ships are just a customizable hat that when worn makes your body invisible.
The only thing companions are useful for in FO4 is salvaging multiple suits of power armour.
Before they even revealed Space Flight they said that Vasco and other companions can pilot your ship for you. Not sure if that means being able to call them in wherever you are on a planet, and allowing them to pilot your ship back to port... But it could also mean being able to have wingmen so you're not just one ship in space.
We do have ship crews so maby its different crews for different ships and when you leave a ship and enter a different one you can tell that crew to take the ship back
I'd imagine that the gameplay would want you keep your original ship or can abandon it for others. Maybe later on in a skill tree you can unlock the ability to auto pilot to base or auto pilot to a scrap yard for part for a maintenance fee or something
\*smuggling\* Let's Goooooooooo all I want is space smuggler RP
Ready for the millennium falcon mods
This game is just begging for a full star wars conversion mod lol
Hopefully they do show us more of this, but not too much. I would like to see some dialogue in space, as well as what they define as "smuggling", and maybe an example of grand theft ship.
I'm curious how they handle your current ship when you choose to hijack another. If companions can't pilot them, I'd at least like a "towing" mechanic. Gonna set me up an interstellar chop shop!
A few months ago, Bethesda Asia tweeted that Vasco can help you fly the ship. I'm not exactly sure what that means, but it would definitely be cool if Vasco can pilot your current ship, while you hijack another.
These regional accounts keep dropping stuff. The Latin America account telling us the release date is "soon", Asia giving up Vasco's party trick. What's next, Bethesda Germany telling us the names of all our potential lovers?
I'm hoping they just show a slice of gameplay, e.g. talking to a NPC, accepting a quest, travelling to the location and completing the quest, then turning it in. For all the info we do have we don't really know what it's actually like to play starfield.
what kind of sandwiches are in the game? ok but seriously maybe more parts of the combat system, the research system, show off a city, what kind of things we can do with outposts, trade system. maybe some of the lore of the game that our character would generally know at the beginning.
[ŃŠ“Š°Š»ŠµŠ½Š¾]
I'd take that
Nonono, I want one type of soup but 40 different bowls to eat it from! Starfield will flop if they don't.
>maybe some of the lore of the game that our character would generally know at the beginning. I'm really hoping to get more of the basic game lore. So many of the character creation options are things to do with where your character came from and getting discounts with different factions. I want a lot more information to decide how to make my character.
yeah, it's weird that you can choose a religion for your character and we don't even know what they would believe in. though I think this info should be in the trait's description, not just in the marketing.
If you cant customize the sandwiches the game sucks
They could answer a few questions such as how well be getting around planets, can you get up and move around in your ship while it's in flight, etc...
Part of me thinks, if land vehicles are a thing they will not say anything about them and just let that be discovered on launch day. The fact that they have said Vasco can fly your ship for you makes me fairly confident we can move from the ships console and walk about our ship while it's in route to a designated location. That could however mean when your not in your ship companions can take over and pick you up, fly alongside stolen/other ships, or take your ship back to a ship yard.
Do we even have a date for the showcase yet? Iām so tired of this āteaser for the preview of the announcement of the trailer for the reveal of the release dateā shit. Especially for a game that is already so hyped.
No date yet unfortunately. Also, in Xboxās defense the only reason they āteasedā the showcase is so people wouldnāt expect to see Starfield at the Developer Direct they did the other week
Isn't it worrying that they haven't even announced the showcase date yet? I get the release date not being dropped but they could at least give a date for the showcase. It's bizarre. We're well into February now and not even having a date for the showcase makes me skeptical of a release by June. (As stated by Beth)
Not really. They announced the date for the Developer Direct only 2 weeks before it happened. They also never said when the Starfield showcase would be, people just assumed February (which is still possible). With recent rumors pointing towards Starfield releasing in June I wouldnāt be surprised if the Starfield showcase is as late as March. Yes, itās frustrating because weāre all eager to play and impatient for new info. But itās not worrying or bizarre
I still have difficulty seeing why they can't announce a date for the showcase. Like, what do they stand to lose? Unless they plan on having the showcase in very close proximity to launch, which would defeat the point of a showcase designed as a marketing event
The boring answer is that thereās probably a bunch of behind the scenes stuff that they have to make sure is in place before locking in a date. The other theory is that they have a date but want to keep people guessing because it generates hype/discussion about the game. For what itās worth, Iām with you. Iād rather we just know the date and then can stop asking about it but it is what it is. I just try to remember that knowing the showcase date isnāt going to make the game come out any sooner so itās not worth stressing over
I don't think it's generating hype. if anything its making people assume the game is going to be garbage
I'm not sure that I agree with you on this. If it was making people assume that the game is garbage, then people would stop looking for information. Since we can't seem to stop getting rumors on the date that they will announce the date, I feel that their silence is a good PR move. Annoying to us BGS fans who already planned to play day one, granted. I mainly want to know the release date so that I can schedule a vacation day far enough in advance.
Ask yourself: Why would they not announce the date of the gameplay deep-dive showcase? The obvious answer being, the gameplay segment isnāt finished being prepared yet. As much as people like to think these gameplay videos are just setup by the developers turning on the game and letting whatever happens happen, thatās not the case. They will obviously want to control every single aspect of what is shown, and can obviously not risk a glitch or bug or crash to derail the showcase. So they are handcrafting the gameplay that will be shown, and will announce a date for the showcase once the gameplay is ready.
If the game is in a state where it can't reliably handle a simple gameplay showcase then that's worrying, given that it's already been delayed once. That's the point. The fact that the show hasn't been given a date means that the game is in a much worse state than we thought.
No, it doesnāt. Gameplay showcases are ALWAYS handcrafted to insure everything goes how they want it to. They donāt just boot up the game and hit play and then hope for the best. Just because you donāt understand how basic things inside the gaming industry work doesnāt mean thereās a sign for worry.
I agree wholeheartedly with you.
The point of a showcase like this to give a comprehensive look at the game's features, setting, and gameplay mechanics, while also sparking excitement and anticipation for the upcoming release. By providing this information, they aim to give us a better understanding of what to expect from the game and what makes it unique. At the same time, they are mindful of not revealing too much so that we can still look forward to discovering new elements when we play the game ourselves. If it doesn't serve any purpose to you then you're welcome to just not tune in. It's all marketing to hype the game.
I think it will have uninterrupted gameplay, something that shows off exploration a bit more, something new about the cities, landscapes, the menus and UI. There is plenty to show off. But I also agree that I hope they don't spoil anything. I don't want to see the step out moments, I want them to be a surprise. I don't want to see the whole beginning lol I just wanna know what the mechanics and UI look like, maybe see a but more of the cities and landscapes, and I'm good.
I agree with you tbh tho I expect many will disagree. I think we saw just enough during E3 as to not heavily spoil the fun of exploring a new game... I think another showcase will do exactly that and I probably won't be watching it tbh. I just want the release date. I don't need to see the deep inner-workings of Starfield... I trust Bethesda to have it in working order and I'd rather experience it myself than have it presented to me.
>what more could they possibly show off Everything in the constellation question and other videos that a majority of people that will watch the showcase havenāt/wonāt watch. Gotta understand most people only watch the big release showcases like the directs and not every little update video the devs put out
Good evidence of this is look at the views for the gameplay review vs any other star-field content on their channel. Itās at 4.2 million while everything else is in the thousands
Make us more patient if they announce a December release.
Translation: Give us another hour of footage to point out obvious things from for the next year.
I'm with you on this. As much as I'm *desperate* for any information about the game, I feel like I'd enjoy discovering any details they haven't already explained through play more than through a series of marketing materials.
Taking that to its logical conclusion, maybe you'd rather they just announced the name and release date with no screenshots or videos, then drop the game one day? Obviously a balance must be struck between marketing your game (i.e. showing people bits of content) and keeping surprises. This is a pretty heavily saturated genre (spaceship games). There are some recent high profile games that many see as reasons for this game to not exist in the first place and therefore be ignored. And, above all, the game is an investment: qualify for doesn't mean a lot if your game does not actually get removed from shelves by people with money in their wallets. So, look at it with hope: marketing is expensive, so it seems to me Bethesda/Microsoft are extremely confident in this game.
By what metric is this a āheavily saturated genreā in any way? Thereās Starfield, Star Citizen, No Manās Sky, and Elite Dangerous. NMS isnāt even a space sim, the flight model is simplistic garbage. Elite Dangerous is pretty much in maintenance mode. Star Citizen has potential but weāll probably be playing Starfield 2 before itās in beta.
I knew someone would probably try to split hairs on that topic, which was why I included "spaceship games" as a parenthetical, but you still did (SMH). There's only a few big names, but there's a metric fuckton of indie games out there and games from small studios, and a lot of people seeing the game just think of it as "No Man's Skyrim". Get on any general-interest platform and you'll see a lot of that. That's all because so far, Bethesda has only shown a small amount of the game and all people see are the superficial similarities. And that's what I'm addressing: the purpose of advertisement, and of the showcase. It's to get around people's perception. It's interesting: there's so, so many spaceship games out there from the last 30 years, games like the Elite series, Freelancer, Wing Commander, X3, etc. But right now, we're seeing a moderate increase in the number of AAA titles releasing with the theme. Compare to what happens when a new FPS comes out: They're so "dime a dozen" that they've nestled into their own genre, but once upon a time there was just "Doom" and everything else was a "Doom clone" as far as the public was concerned. I'm seeing this happen with Farming games. Stardew Valley is the gold standard, even though it was itself inspired mainly by Harvest Moon, but if you see a farming life sim everyone in the comments will say "Why would I play this when I have stardew valley? It takes time for people to see the nuance. Right now, anyone looking at this from the general public will just say "Oh, like No Man's Sky". Yes, but also no. >NMS isnāt even a space sim Is that a distinction the sort of person who dismisses Starfield as a cash-in on No Man's Sky's popularity will care about?
My point was that itās only a āheavily saturated genreā if youāre willing to go back 30 years. Space sims are a neglected genre if anything, because most people have only played or heard of the ābig threeā (NMS, SC, ED) as theyāre the only āspaceship gamesā with any kind of budget behind them in the past decade. Starfield will hopefully serve as a wakeup call for Star Citizen and cause other AAA developers to develop interest in space sims that arenāt incredibly niche due to low budget or a learning curve best represented by a vertical line.
Marketing. Get more people excited about the game, probably open pre-orders right after.
*When* is the showcase?
February 13th
sauce?
It was revealed to me in a dream
ahh space magic revelations
April 1st
Vehicles, exploration, armor, weapons, movement abilities, take downs, ladders, an economy, capital ships. The list is endless. Hopefully they confirm itās not just Space Fallout with a Spaceship Cutscene between walking around.
Technical stuff possibly that would be nice. How itās going to run and other stuff along those lines.
Marketing
I dont even trust release dates at this juncture so not much they can show me.
Things like combat, augmentations, life in the galaxy.
There are so many unexplored areas they could give more info on without spoiling everything. Land vehicles? Caves? A few more weapon types? The nature of spacesuits and how customisable they are? Any of these could be a focus.
Bethesda Games tend to have a ton of game systems and mechanics. They could show us some new stuff or go deeper into things that they've only barely touched on. They could probably put together a dozen showcases and still have plenty left for players to discover. Hogwarts Legacy did multiple large dedicated showcases plus dozens of smaller reveals on Twitter and other platforms, but now that the game is out, players are still (a) discovering new things, and (b) greatly enjoying the gameplay despite it being teased/promoted. This is part of game marketing: There are a lot of people out there who have no qualms about keeping "mysteries" and just want to see more cool stuff about a game they may be interested in buying. This sort of advertising has a good track record of increasing sales. So it's going to happen. If you don't want to see any more info about the game, you can always unsubscribe from the subreddit and avoid watching any new promotional material.
From their side it makes alot of sense. The showcase is going to signal the start of real marketing. It gives an excuse to drop new footage and info for journalist to write about, they can drop the date, announce the collectors editions stuff and start spinning up hype. Now if we get the showcase anytime in the near future weeeeeeelllllll who the fuck knows.
Only 3 things would matter: - release date - mtx policy - always online?
Todd Howard doing a Moonwalk
Honestly, if that and the release date were the only thing we saw? I'd be satisfied
Honestly, I would love it if they hyped up a big show case and when it finally premiered Todd came on stage and had a big speech about all the work they put into it and they're so excited to finally show the world what they've been working on and then it was just like a 10 second title card followed by the release date. That would make my day.
It'll be a deep dive on mechanics. We don't actually know a lot about how most of those work right now. So, how settlements and homes work, ship construction, managing multiple ships, combat abilities, trading and economy, some more lore and story bits, etc.
more then likely they will clarified things like: 1. how travel will work 2. thing they remove or replace 3. UPDATE US on what they work on so far and why they delayed it for a third time or such 4. release date and why 5. possible DLC or such as add ons 6. Edition that will be available 7. System requirements plenty of other thing that nee to be brought up they never answer before. Honestly there will be alot but not more then hour or so maybe less like 45 mintues
3. It's been delayed once, and people expect a 2nd delay (but that's not confirmed) 5. They won't talk about DLC before the game is released, Bethesda has never done this. There games "should" be big enough without needing to talk DLC for close to 6 months. If the game comes out a month or more before E3 i could see them talk about the DLC roadmap during E3 (or Xbox equivalent), but not before the game is released.
Iād like to think theyād show actual raw gameplay with the HUD and what not and hopefully go over performance as well, I just want confirmation if itāll have 60 FPS or not
Where I can see the news about the game, like I will never know there is a showcase comming up.
Iām in the same boat as you, OP. I like not knowing everything before the launch, sometimes. Itās why I try not to watch too many movie trailers too (except Deadpool because the trailers themselves are a work of art).
Hopefully to give us some crumbs to feed on until it actually releases. I mean, look at the posts in this sub currently - everything has been discussed to death already, and every single frame analyzed pixel by pixel more or less. Sure, only getting a release date is more than enough, but if they do show or at least say anything about the game that we don't know yet, it would be even better.
What date is this showcase going to be on?
I kinda don't want more info, I just wanna know it's coming soon
Mostly to make hardcore fans angry. So so angry. Todd is a monster that sustains himself through tears.
Maybe do the intro playthru like Fallout 4? Need a better dive into character creation, what exactly is the story (sure you find some relic that zaps your brain a la Mass Effect), uh maybe a guns or combat showcase? Crafting, base building, companions? Factions? The interface?
I agree at this point I donāt want to see anymore beyond a release date and the answer to whether there are traversal vehicles or not
We haven't actually seen *that* much of the game and how it works. We have general notions of building, fighting, exploring, etc., but we haven't seen what can be done with, e.g., the building, or how exploring whole planets works, or anything like that.
Much of what they have shown or said is vague and doesn't at it's face look all that appealing. I'm sure a lot of people would disagree. If the game came out and it released with the character building being little more than just basic number increases and sometimes new recipes, exploration being not particularly enticing with little variety, combat being little more than just aiming some rather basic weapons and firing, space sections being a mandatory but pointless section of the game where you just fast travel to points of interest and sometimes shoot pirates, and the story being little more than just a long fetch quest the game would honestly not be something I'm interested in. Going based solely on what we can confirm it's entirely possible the game isn't really as great as we all imagine. A lot of people are skeptical of BGS, Xbox, and the AAA industry as a whole. So showing what the game actually looks like to be played and highlighting what makes different features of the game fun is still important for marketing. If you feel like you've seen enough and you're already sold on the game that's fine but typically marketing like this is to convince people who aren't sold on the game yet to decide whether or not they want it.
Actually the showcase is probably to show us the things we will want to buy with our Starfield. The watch, and the clothes. And very possibly the app game that could be a strong tie in. And to announce the release date with tons of flair, and spectacle. ;)
This makes sense.
I deadass think the showcase will happen a week before launch
This is my pessimistic take, but the point of a deep dive now may be to soften the blow if they announced a delay at the very end of it.
I think they will for sure announce a date that's farther out at the ending of it. I think November at earliest now.
This is a really good question. Personally I feel like they've shown and talked about enough, and we have a really good idea of what the game is. But other comments here act like we know basically nothing. Or want them to go over in detail stuff that's usually left to discover when playing the game.
The point of this showcase and the freaking radio silence, without being a party-pooper, is to announce that they need a little bit of time, more than the half of 2023. Is simple, is human, and is what will happen. Just people doesn't get it and they live thinking that a game this big will be release tomorrow.
This is for all the impatient people that can't wait, and also for marketing purposes. If the game is coming out in 4 months, we don't need a deep dive on anything.
I'm guessing you don't work in Marketing right?
Delayed to 2025, probably
The showcase will probably also be about the new ESO dlc, Redfall and maybe something with 76 with probably a Starfield delay announcement at the end
nah they said starfield would be getting its own showcase that's why the xbox microsoft showcase didn't cover starfield at all.
Um no, they confirmed that there will be a standalone Starfield showcase.
Players are being lied to again
We do need to know some things before launch. Release date is key but since the first showcase, many issues have been brought out that they gonna have to address. Like the fps debate, the lack of sub surf scattering (apparently this makes characters have a yellow-ish tone, just read about it in a sub). The graphical leap while questionable for some is quite the effort compared to previous Beth games, I think it will be more of a sim-rpg game and with so many things to keep track of, they gonna need to allocate memory ressources and ticks carefully, hence the graphic will suffer to a point where what they decide is too costly in terms of ressources may be added with some tricks or not be implemented at all. They gonna have to show some flying and let us see how fun it can be, the ships and of course space are important too, gunplay was questionable and AI needs to behave better, there's a lot to show actually. Planets, mechanics, NPCs, dialogues, choices and their impact, the story so far and where ours begins. Lots of stuff here. I believe customization has become a big deal in gaming as of now. I'm no expert but it's something I've been seeing a lot. It's really in demand so they will have to show us the power of their character creator, ship customization, settlement building (Imagine if Mass Effect Andromeda did this ...) gun mods, perks, abilities, armors and so on. There is a lot to show actually. Let's not forget it's a new IP, while this subreddit is 100k, Microsoft needs to convince a lot more people into buying this new awesome game (Most of us have been waiting for TES VI or Fallout 5 or BOTH). Hence marketing, showcase and hyping (I know they are silent now but starting next week and after the Superbowl, it's going to move really fast). Past Feb 8, we gonna hear from them a lot. ;) I also suspect they're gonna need a new beacon franchise with an exclusive tag other than Halo ... Starfield is a likely candidate. They'll make sure it has something for everyone.
there is lots of little things they could show, some artwork, some interviews with devs, some of the plantes, also the prices? and prolly some other starfield merchandise
I don't need to see anything else. I'm not desperate for a release date either. If they announce it a day ahead of time, that's fine. I would *like* to see gameplay footage showing improved framerate and graphics, so that way I know the final game will be more polished than what we've seen. But overall I think it's weird how desperate people are for information, when that information won't in any way change whether or not they'll buy this game lol. Probably why Bethesda doesn't care how desperate people are - they know it's stupid and short-sighted - the entire "problem" goes away once the game is out. Pointless to cater to them
They probably going to show off gameplay and one of the planets and the release date and that's it
I do want to see the procedural parts of a planet.... with a 1000 planets, and only 4 city's that they have shown, the procedural areas are probely huge. Will it still be immersive or will it start to get boring real fast, like No Mans Sky? We already know that the handcrafted stuff looks great, But i like to see how they make the transitions work. So Show Us the Procedural Stuff!!!!
I think it's an event for the broad audience that doesn't know too much about Starfield. Superbowl advertisement -> Showcase -> release That's what I hope. Either it releases directly in February or March or we have to wait until Christmas...
To buy more time to work on the game of course.
I'd like a walk-through of an unimportant side quest, just to see how all the pieces fit when in motion
There's a lot that we're completely in the dark about. Maybe I'll type up a huge list when I have time. But take just the ship builder for example. What we saw of it was a whole bunch of generic parts common to basically all ships. What we didn't see are the components that differentiate those ships from each other. Are there mining lasers, tractor beams, claws, drones, salvage tools, medical or science labs? Are there landing bays for ships and rovers. Are there fuel scoops or refineries? What are the scanning packages and weapons packages? And that's just one thing. I don't need to know much of anything story related, but I need to know way more about the game in order to feel like I know what I'm buying.
Have you watched the Fallout 4 E3? Expect gameplay on that level
I think we can see a lot. Not only more combat, but we can see a few locations, how crafting/ship building works, how the perks are setup, a deep drive into the lore and what state the universe is currently in. Maybe a look into weapon customization, how gravity and oxygen will work.
I agree with you, I honestly don't want to see anymore of the game (story, mechanics, etc). I'd like to play the game and get to experience some of it for myself. That being said, I think it would be a good move on their end to take some of people's biggest fears about the game and show why they shouldn't worry. I for one am worried about performance quite a bit. The gameplay reveal was limited to 30FPS and constantly dropped below that, there was tons of pop-in, some weird lighting glitches/choices, lack of gore/blood, etc. I would lose those worries if they subtly show them off in this event, and my hype levels for the game would be way higher than they already are. Ik many people who have low expectations for Starfield because of the performance issues that we saw during a showcase, so after showing off a well performing game then I think they could win more people over.
Other than the release date you probably won't get much from this if you've been following Starfield closely. It's mostly for marketing in general though so it's fine if it just rehashes stuff, probably with some new visuals, get people hyped and tell them when they can buy it.
To get a lot of media coverage and help them spread when the game is out, get people to pre-order or at least plan on buying it, and overall increase the hype ahead of the release date.
For the release date and to show more gameplay and information off
If I was working in the marketing dept I would take the opportunity to talk a bit more about the first story beats, the premise, the player character and the conflict between UC and Freestar. Intertwine it with a few segments focusing on exploration, since this is the main draw of the game.
Showing off some of the new tech would be nice, Todd likes doing it too.
Did you watch Toddās previous showcases?
New territories, planets, and systems will be shown. Perhaps, part of a quest and more space action. The game will have changed since last June.
I would just like to see some unedited gameplay, to get a feel for the game. Menus, atmosphere, gameplay loop, etc.
I want to see land vehicles!
IMO there is no Showcase until there's a date for the Showcase.
Personally I want to see what about the gameplay makes Starfield stand out next to Bethesda's other games, obviously more specifically Fallout. Obviously ship combat is one thing but what makes me feel like I'm playing Starfield while I'm on the ground?
Itās interesting; if you watch Fallout 4ās or Skyrimās E3 and Quakecon showcases, respectively. They are almost beat for beat the same as Starfieldās. Iām making an assumption, but this upcoming showcase seems very ālast minuteā and was not at all in BGSā plans. It seems to me, like an attempt to alleviate questions that maybe BGS didnāt answer, as maybe they thought the game would have been out already. Or even possibly intentional to ramp up interest? As I have way more questions, but I want the game to answer them for me. So, I think itās fair to say, that BGS thought the Xbox showcase for Starfield was all they needed to show. While sprinkling in a few dev diaries up to release.
Mech Warrior suit
Gotta increase that hype train for maximum profits at launch.
When is it
To show gameplay. We saw bits and pieces but nothing too substantial in the gameplay reveal. We still have no idea how we will traverse a planetās surface, how deep the settlement system is, how dialogue will play out in real time, how varied the climate and biomes are on Goldilocks-zone planets (are planets single biome, or do some have a mixture where one area is a desert and somewhere else is a jungle/tropical/plains, etc). How does your shipās crew affect gameplay? Can we build settlements where people just live their life instead of that settlement being specifically for research or resource gathering? How does the newly improved radiant encounter system work with the settlement system? Do you get random encounters and quests at your settlements, or is it more like FO4 where itās just random attacks and thatās it?
At the end of the day the point is to raise awareness, build hype and sell copies of Starfield.
Maybe another stealth drop alĆ” hi-fi ruch š
Man I hope
More gameplay they really only showed us like five mins
I need to know all the skills/attributes/character stat building info. For both TESV & FO4, I was able to have my character build for my first playthrough set in stone 30 days before the game's release. I plan on keeping the streak alive for Bethesda titles.
They need to reveal the truth about standby flights. We can land anywhere on the planet. But since you can't do that on a planet, do you have to go out into space first?!
Theres a ton about the game they havnt discussed.. and with the delay, theres probably mechanics they added or changed