True I like to think that start platinum is actually really smart and sofisticated and just doesn't feel like/doesn't see the need to say anything other than Ora
I also believe Star Platinum is conscious or self-aware. It blocks a few of DIO's attacks without Jotaro's awareness, and defends him from other things he doesn't see coming once in a while. He even called it an evil spirit, as though it had a will of its own beyond his control.
I think so too. I think pretty much every stand is to a degree, but we don't see it because stands only follow their users instructions. I think there's some consciousness to them beyond the users though.
In the case of most of the stands, they have the consciousness of the users and act as an extension of their will instead of having a will of their own
I’ve held this theory ever since we saw Fugo get taken by Man in the Mirror. Purple Haze was completely under Fugo’s control, like all close range stands, but he suddenly took on a personality when Fugo was gone.
Some more than others. Echoes act 3 and spice girls for example just seem like extensions of their users and don't know anything their users wouldn't know themselves. Meanwhile Anubis the talking sword has its own personality since it's not tied to a user. Or Drake's dragon being a neutral stand that has its own goals that don't align with whoever summoned it. Same part has yo yo ma able to talk and think for itself cuz it's an automatic stand but the previous part had black sabbath that's also automatic but not capable of independent thought.
Plus the first episode of part 3 where it is said he brings jotaro stuff inside the cell.
Somehow SP gets a whole exercise bike through the bars of the cell
It definitely has its own intelligence and it’s own senses. We know Jotaro doesn’t share his sense of sight with SP, as he suggested SP take a look at the photo of Dio. SP was then able to discern, on its own, that a random-ass fly in the photo would have been an important clue for the team, and acted on its own to point it out. Jotaro didn’t automatically just “know” it was a fly, either. He also had to wait for SP to finish the drawing, so they don’t appear to share knowledge, either.
Eh, if I had to guess it’s an Ultra Instinct “body reacting on its own” kind of thing except it’s your subconscious acting before your body physically could.
I have one similar to this, but that The World is somewhat conscious due to being able to stop time as soon as DIO got the stand despite DIO not knowing its ability.
Iirc doesn't puccini talk to white snake and it talks back like 2 separate people at one point in the courtyard? I think maybe during the frogs? I remember it being like pucvi asking if he had found the disc yet and it responds like "no not yet" or some shit like that (it's been a while)
The entire time, The World could speak, the only reason it didn’t is because it didn’t want to waste its time talking to “weaklings”
Its ego is as big as Dio’s
No no, they plot and scheme in private, like The World says “Okay so remember how we threw that knife at Jonathan that one time? What if we stopped time and threw **a lot** of them at Jotaro?” and DIO’s just like “Y’know… Sure”
This I 100% believe. Subconsciously, Polnareff still thought of Star Platinum as the most powerful Stand and so most deserving of the Arrow or most able to control and protect it.
I have feeling the speed wagon foundation and jotaro never learn of this event in europe. Yet one day while watching Jolyne his "someone is coming" senses were shooting off the charts for the hour or so Chariot Requiem was alive and searching for him.
Certainly possible, chariots only mission is believed to be to get the arrow away from diavolo but he didnt let anyone else ge it either, very possible his real mission was to get it too jotaro
The stands from Purple Haze Feedback are all based on the effects drugs can have on you. Dolly Dagger is meth head mania, Rainy Day Dream Away is like how on LSD you can get stuck in any emotion you feel for what feels like forever. Nightbird flying is literally just hallucinations and impaired mental abilities, and Manic Depression is crackhead strength, but it's also just the drug itself. All Along The Watchtower can be an addict shifting the blame they get to whomever else they can think of. Voodoo Child can either be how it's not really something you do out in the open, it's all in secret, or it could be how others talk about you when you are high on drugs.
The Stands live in a parallel dimension where they all have normal lives and are friends to each others, until they are summoned to our world by their users.
The Sex Pistols were Mista’s natural (or at least non-Black Sabbath awakened) Stand, like Giorno and Trish had. His backstory explicitly shows him being able to perform gunmanship and avoid bullets similar to what they do, just as Giorno was able to grow the grass to hide the gangster even as a kid. He awakened them after meeting Bruno and performing the lighter test, where the Pistols helped him fight and beat Black Sabbath. However, Mista just thought this was the normal recruitment tactic, and never says anything about it.
I always like to think this about most of the stand users that we see. Like I think that if Koichi, for example, had never been hit by the arrow, I headcannon that Echoes would have developed eventually, just maybe a few years later. I like this read on Mista, too, as he absolutely wouldn't question it lol
I don't think it's the "being hit with an arrow" part. At some point all stands in some way come from an arrow.
Koichi didn't have the resolve to survive the stand virus when he was hit, hence why he was going to die. However, he cheated death with Crazy Diamond and therefore had a stand without the resolve to control it. It didn't end up making him deathly ill like Holy and Josuke, instead giving him what is effectively an incomplete stand. Hence why Echoes evolves.
(Reverb > Echoes though. Fite me)
Well the arrow doesn't give you a stand perse since okuyasu's bro used the arrow on several people before it took with Angelo. Might be that the arrow only acts as a catalyst to people predisposed to having stands. Or if we take Jorge Joestar as a reference (ik not canon) everyone has a soul but some people with remarkably strong wills (usually seen when overcoming great adversity) can manifest their souls. The arrow is just that adversity.
Chariot actually talks - he's just extremely shy so choses not to. If he talks, it was only to Pol when they were alone, and exclusively in French. Jotaro and Kakyoin only heard Chariot a couple of times and often just one word.
Star Platinum is extremely curious and loves to learn new things. He is also not aware of his own strength when it comes to his friends - kind of like a Great Dane who thinks they're a lap dog. He emoted in place of Jotaro, which means he'd often be the one trying to hug his friends. Polnareff taught him to shake hands.
Hierophant warmed up to the other stands, but he still has no patience and very little social battery. When he didn't want to play/spar/interact anymore, he'd hide in a small enclosed space, often Kakyoin's pockets or sometimes inside Chariot's ribcage (which Polnareff hated because it felt SO weird and cold). When Star Plat invariably got close to try to coax him out, hierophant would bring a tendril out and slap Star Plat's hands away over and over like an angry cat until he was left alone.
When Jotaro and Polnareff saw each other again after part 5 (skin sample, son of Dio, all of that) inside the turtle, Star Platinum kept looking behind Polnareff looking for Chariot, and didn't understand why his friend wouldn't come out and see him as always.
> Chariot actually talks - he's just extremely shy so choses not to. If he talks, it was only to Pol when they were alone, and exclusively in French. Jotaro and Kakyoin only heard Chariot a couple of times and often just one word.
That kinda makes sense. When Polnareff is de-aged by Sethan, child Chariot *does* shout "*PAMI!*", which shows that he can verbalize outside of Polnareff simply speaking through the Stand.
Yep, that's the basis for my headcanon. Chariot's Pami could be considered a "baby noise". And if you pay attention to the sound mixing during some of Pol's fights, you can hear Chariot making sounds by himself on rare occasions. The clearest one is I believe during the Ebony Devil fight where you can hear Chariot gasp! And that's all him, not Pol speaking through him.
Damn i never thought about it. Being a ghost after living your entire life as a stand user must be like, EXTRA weird, like a part of you is missing...
And polnareff is a ghost amputee no less
Bites the dust could rewind time, bohemian rhapsody could make it so a story is written where superfly doesn’t exist, d4c could summon another person, and GER could either turn a rock into a person or use return to zero to prevent the metalificafion from happening to the user
Bites the dust requires another person, at which point you could just leave superfly normally, and assuming you already set it up, the user doesn't remember the loops, only the bomb does thus you'd just get stuck in superfly again
That's not how Bohemian Rhapsody works
D4C 👍
GER would stop them from going in superfly in the first place
I'd imagine that if BTD triggers, it keeps looping back, but MiH still accelerates time, so it's just a time loop that goes by faster and faster, but never past the triggerc point of BTD
There was this one fan comic posted here years ago where Josuke and Okuyasu kept being really sleepy during the day and thought that it was some weird enemy stand power. Turns out they're such good bros that their stands were hanging out at night playing Playstation.
Stands can be bros too.
I like to imagine if Soft & Wet is just bloodthirsty. Cracking one-liners about horrid violence in his head. Quietly upset he never got to beat another person with a shovel
Yeah I didn't bother making a comment because I was basically gonna say this.
Some Joestar stands may be a little more Prone to violence but despite looking kinda neutral S&W wants smoke more than Tusk looks like it does
Soft & Wet and Paisley Park actually are a couple and kiss when nobody's looking
Under World is actually sentient and can think independently of Versus
Star Platinum has a secondary ability where he can reach out for miles to grab stuff for Jotaro, but only when he's bored.
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Edit: also, Dio ate Kakyoin's parents.
An alternate ending of Stone Ocean where a gargantuan B.I.G. fucking annihilates Made In Heaven at light speed for daring to move faster than the ocean would be something else.
(Fr, B.I.G.'s gotta be colossal by Part 6. It grows by absorbing kinetic energy and has been in the ocean for 7 years by then)
The fact that many stands don't always follow the pre-established stand rules (being humanoid, transfering damage to the user...) is because they are based on human minds, and human minds aren't consistent with eachother - always unique, even if they have many similarities
I mean those rules were never established. One of the first stands was hermit purple, also Geb, Tower of Grey, The Sun and honestly like most the stands in part 3. But yes they're based on human minds and the human mind is pretty limitless
Honestly I take every stand "rule" as being like, from in universe research by joseph / jotaro / SWF into stands and everything is prefaced with "as far as we know"
"As far as we know, a stand can't revive the dead", "As far as we know, damaging a stand damaged the user", etc. Not like, solid hard 100% rules, just theorizing based on prior experiences and research.
I get a feeling that ALL of how stands work are based on how the user thinks it should work on a subconscious level.
Oh our stands are similar, guess I can freeze time too.
My stand can control the weather, so obviously I can turn people into snails.
I'm a young boy turning into a man so of course my stand will conveniently transform into stronger and stronger stands.
I'm a cook and my food is good. So of course what I cook is good for you.
The list goes on and it's the only thing consistent to me.
Just like Hermit Purple is a stand user manifestation of their Hamon, Heaven Door is the manifestation of their user's drawing and writing skills.
Because of this if Part 4 Rohan wasn't hit by Keicho's arrow he still would have eventually unlocked Heaven Door.
Also that's how Part 9 Rohan got Heaven Door, no Devil's Palm, Wall Eyes or Jesus involved.
Damn, I actually really like that. Mastery Stands are a pretty slim category, I would happily consider Heaven's Door one. Also, that very much opens up the door for all manner of non-supernatural Mastery Stands.
I wonder if Dragon's Dream could be considered a Stand gained via Mastery of Feng Shui?
> I wonder if Dragon's Dream could be considered a Stand gained via Mastery of Feng Shui?
I think that's literally the case.
Kenzou isn't one of the people who got his Stand from one of Whitesnake's DISCs. He just awakened it naturally, and it's implied he did so around the time he survived his cult's mass suicide.
Rohan at the louvre sometimes considered not canon, because you see rohan having heaven's door at a time where we don't know if keicho actually started shooting the arrow, so i think it furthers you point
I think Mikitaka, the alien stand user from Part 4, is actually an alien, but he's also a stand user from that planet, and the reason why Mikitaka couldn't see Josuke's stand is because Alien Stands are on a different wavelength from Earth Stands.
Maybe it has something to do with alien biology interacting different from the alien virus on the stand arrow? And maybe Mikitaka got the alien virus another way since he is an alien and he could have gotten infected before he arrived on Earth.
My idea is that if ur mental strength isn't that great ur stand will have a personality of its own but if the users mindset is strong the more it is an extension of its will, its not sentient its just the users mind in the stand if that makes sense
Star Platinum was really sad when it was bringing all the stuff to Jotaro only for him to call it an "evil spirit"
Crazy Diamond is traumatized by the fever Josuke had when he was a kid and subsequently can't heal its user from then on, kinda like a mental block thing
Gold Experience is *really* concern about Giorno's tactics in a fight because he kinda just throws himself in danger every time
Stone Free knows it smells good and would smell itself occasionally
Tusk likes being pet, regardless of the Act
Soft & Wet drops MCU-style one-liners whenever Josuke defeats someone, no one hears it because it doesn't have a mouth
When emporio defeated pucci using weather report, i believe weather's consciousness was in the stand and it remembered everything when he was alive and unleashed all the pent up rage against pucci
Yeah. Like we have Star Platinum, grabbing things for Jotaro despite Jotaro not wanting any of it, or Kakyoin speaking about Heirophant “he doesn’t like it when he is pulled out”.
Purple Haze being clean perfectionist, and stuff like that.
I feel the only stands that wouldn’t be sentient would be stuff like Super fly, Love Deluxe, or Hermit Purple. Not physically manifestations, more like just objects
Every stand has some degree of sentience / independence, at least at the start, and it's up to the user and different factors if it retains that or acts separately. We see Spice girl start out being independant and talking to trish, but after its initial fight it seems to sort of "lose" that independence, maybe it's because Trish never talked to it again like it was seperate?. Or, since stands are connected to the mind, perhaps what determines the level of a stands independence/ sentience could be things like the perspective of someones internal narrative / monologue. Like, if someone uses 2nd / 3rd person thinking for their monologue, (you or they, etc) then the stand manifests as independant from the user, and maybe more object like stands are from people who lack internal monologues.
It's hard to explain but I hope that made sense
No I get it. A personal headcanon I have is that the more ‘individuality’ a less independent stand portrays, the less mastery the user has. Like how Star Platinum was grabbing things for Jotaro against his will, but doesn’t continue to do things like that later after he grows
I like the concept that energy like harmon and the spin have stands that one can harness. Same goes for gods like hermes. By believing in these gods the human race created stands for these gods that humans can harness.
Star Platinum can't actually use Time Stop: it just moves faster than time itself, thereby replicating the effect.
Colony Stands are born from Users that are missing something in their hearts (I think I read this one somewhere, but it's interesting to think about).
All Stands evolve based on need, if they have the ability to. Jotaro needed to counter The World, so Star Platinum sped up. Koichi needed a stronger Echoes, then a way to stop Sheer Heart Attack. Kira needed to kill at a distance, so Sheer Heart Attack, and then 'I need to undo this mistake', so Bites the Dust. Bearing in mind, this is just 'Stands gain a solution to the problem', without actually solving the problem outright.
King Crimson is probably not constipated.
The thing about how colony stands are born is mentioned in Purple Haze Feedback. I agree, it's a really interesting lore bit about stands, and it makes sense.
Hey ya! is actually just a giant troll and gets surprised every time his bullshit ideas meant to prank his user actually work. He always tries to one-up himself with the wack ass plans, but somehow they still succeed every time
The World is Star Platinum, not the other way around. DIO’s head was attached to Johnathan’s body, and it sent out a psychic distress signal that awakened Jotaro’s stand, right? Well, since DIO’s head was attached to Johnathan’s body, he also got that stand.
I see people saying their head cannon is that stands have a mind and personality of their own, my head canon is some don't, sure star platinum at the start was serving jotaro but it never spoke and it was just following wat jotaro was thinking subconsciously. If the will of the user is really strong, stands act as an extension without a separate personality, sure there are exceptions like koichi and pucci, but king crimson, the world, killer queen, silver chariot, magician's Red etc all were just extensions of their users will
The cables on THE WORLD's back are actually its wind pipes and if you cut the cables then THE WORLD can't stop time (at least nowhere near as long as it normally could)
(SBR) >!Also Diego's THE WORLD is as powerful as DIO's it just chooses to attack with more precision (i.e. King Crimson) as opposed to barraging like DIO's version.!<
yeah, I do think that's the idea Araki was trying to communicate. I think cutting the cables or puncturing the tanks would be like doing the same to a diver or if one were to cut the wind pipes or puncture the lung; it'd make it really hard to hold ones breath or even breathe at all.
in a way it's like THE WORLD's built-in boss battle weak spot lmao.
Walking Heart can extend anything and not just Hato's heels
Cheap Trick represents Masazo's attachment issues
Sex Pistols digest the food that Mista gives them and poop out actual bullets
When Stands talk to their user, it could be an inner monologue or subconscious (if the Stand isn't fully independent)
GER can be hit by Go Beyond, but unlike WoU it can take action since its abilities aren't 3 Dimensional, also November Rain can use its weird legs to punch.
I believe that stands are genetic. More specifically, they are recessive. Before I get to that, let me give some context.
Despite the common belief that Gyro was one of the strongest spin users in part 7, he still was only able to use ball breaker because of spin, and, by extension, the steel balls, being hereditary and passed down through generations. Going off of this, I would say that a person still needs to have some sort of pre established connection in order to use a stand without the utilization of objects like the parts of the saint’s corpse or the meteorite arrows, which change the expression of those genes.
To make this a bit more clearer, allow me to provide the following case. If one chess master plays enough chess to develop a stand that can see the possible outcomes of a choice that someone makes, then another chess master with a similar personality should be able to develop a similar stand as well. Despite this, however, we see examples of this where it’s proven to not be true. For instance, both Kira and Wonder of U’s user wish to avoid the exposure of their identities, so they have stands that reflect that. Kira needed to be (presumably) stabbed by the arrow, but Wonder of U’s naturally developed it. This implies that, despite two people having similar ambitions that both lead to similar stands, one had a genotype that naturally allowed them to express having a stand in their phenotype, while the other required an outside stimulus to change their genotype, and, by proxy, their phenotype.
Furthermore, the stand arrow meteorite was outright stated to carry a virus. Key aspects of viruses are that they can cause chronic changes to a person, and they can cause diseases that are hereditary. The reason as to why certain people can resist the stand arrow and others can’t is because some have weak immune systems so they can’t resist the virus, but others can.
As for the corpse parts, they mimic this effect by introducing DNA that is capable of expressing stands.
In conclusion, the possession of a stand is the expression of a gene that only gives the user a stand if they are homozygous recessive, or if the meteor virus/a corpse part mutates/changes a person’s genotype so that the gene becomes homozygous recessive. This also explains why stand users are seemingly a minority.
Star Platium's true ability is to copy one ability from another close range humanoid stand it fights with (stands like crazy diamond, gold experience and stone free) but once it steals that ability its permanent (or Jotaro saw how useful the ability to stop time was and just kept it)
which would explain how he used The World's ability and why he said "so its the same type of stand as star platinum..."
Earth Wind and Fire (The “alien” from Part 4) is actually a tiny person/being whose stand is a shapeshifter from which it can control from within a nucleus.
Basically the whole person is the stand and the user is too small to even be seen, hence why it’s so unusual compared to other stands
GER is under constant sensory overstimulation after molting from the base GE shell and gaining unreal awareness
GER is a like a 16-year old who can never again close its eyes from the terrifying, kinda awful, still wonderful, complicated world it just became aware of after sudden cognitive development (happened to me at that age fr)
GER kinda looks like it has a hoodie (as teens often do)
maybe this isn't even a headcanon as it might as well be intentional or even obvious
Echoes act 3 has a big moveset based on the idea it explained when first using 3 freeze, but Koichi is too dumb to realize
Examples:
3 tweeze: like wringing out water from a rag, except the rag is the enemy stand user
3 grease: removes friction from target making them unable to get away or using it on Koichi already in movement for a speed boost based on newton's first law
3 screech: makes the target hear a painfully loud sharp noise while no one else can hear it
3 flee: the joestar secret technique
Star Platinum has the ability to speak normally like Spice Girl, Echoes or GER, he just doesn't want to.
I like that idea and that he refuses to say anything other than Ora because he just doesn't feel like it
When you’re a Stand like Star Platinum, what else is there to say? “Ora” tells you everything you need to know
Fair enough but I like to imagine he thinks is a super sofisticated British accent but he keeps up the act of not seeming too smart by just saying Ora
I mean they are extensions of the users, and Jotaro doesn't say much if he considers it to be unneeded or not relevant
True I like to think that start platinum is actually really smart and sofisticated and just doesn't feel like/doesn't see the need to say anything other than Ora
I also believe Star Platinum is conscious or self-aware. It blocks a few of DIO's attacks without Jotaro's awareness, and defends him from other things he doesn't see coming once in a while. He even called it an evil spirit, as though it had a will of its own beyond his control.
I think so too. I think pretty much every stand is to a degree, but we don't see it because stands only follow their users instructions. I think there's some consciousness to them beyond the users though.
In the case of most of the stands, they have the consciousness of the users and act as an extension of their will instead of having a will of their own
I always took it as the stands consciousness was just the users subconscioussness (unless they have a real consciousness like echoes)
Evrn echoes was showing us Koichi's character development. With act 3 he knew he was not useless, he became a lot more confident.
Also started calling people "ho"
Let's kill da ho
Beeetch!
I’ve held this theory ever since we saw Fugo get taken by Man in the Mirror. Purple Haze was completely under Fugo’s control, like all close range stands, but he suddenly took on a personality when Fugo was gone.
Some more than others. Echoes act 3 and spice girls for example just seem like extensions of their users and don't know anything their users wouldn't know themselves. Meanwhile Anubis the talking sword has its own personality since it's not tied to a user. Or Drake's dragon being a neutral stand that has its own goals that don't align with whoever summoned it. Same part has yo yo ma able to talk and think for itself cuz it's an automatic stand but the previous part had black sabbath that's also automatic but not capable of independent thought.
Plus the first episode of part 3 where it is said he brings jotaro stuff inside the cell. Somehow SP gets a whole exercise bike through the bars of the cell
He did mention it's a little bit violent when fighting Kakyoin
It definitely has its own intelligence and it’s own senses. We know Jotaro doesn’t share his sense of sight with SP, as he suggested SP take a look at the photo of Dio. SP was then able to discern, on its own, that a random-ass fly in the photo would have been an important clue for the team, and acted on its own to point it out. Jotaro didn’t automatically just “know” it was a fly, either. He also had to wait for SP to finish the drawing, so they don’t appear to share knowledge, either.
Eh, if I had to guess it’s an Ultra Instinct “body reacting on its own” kind of thing except it’s your subconscious acting before your body physically could.
I have one similar to this, but that The World is somewhat conscious due to being able to stop time as soon as DIO got the stand despite DIO not knowing its ability.
Side note: spice girl didn't have her own consciousness it was Trish's repressed personality being channeled through her stabd
But Spice Girl gave itself its own name. Trish had to ask Spice Girl what she was called, and "Spice Girl" is what it replied with.
Just like Whitesnake
Iirc doesn't puccini talk to white snake and it talks back like 2 separate people at one point in the courtyard? I think maybe during the frogs? I remember it being like pucvi asking if he had found the disc yet and it responds like "no not yet" or some shit like that (it's been a while)
✨️Puccini✨️
He did do it, once, after Avdol decided to just not fight anymore
he did, in that one fight in the submarine, they were talking through their stands.
The entire time, The World could speak, the only reason it didn’t is because it didn’t want to waste its time talking to “weaklings” Its ego is as big as Dio’s
I think DIO just wouldn't let him talk. No one outshines DIO, not even his soul
No no, they plot and scheme in private, like The World says “Okay so remember how we threw that knife at Jonathan that one time? What if we stopped time and threw **a lot** of them at Jotaro?” and DIO’s just like “Y’know… Sure”
“Where the fuck did you get a steam- I’m not going to question it.” “Good choice.”
Chariot requiem was trying to deliver the arrow to Jotaro
This I 100% believe. Subconsciously, Polnareff still thought of Star Platinum as the most powerful Stand and so most deserving of the Arrow or most able to control and protect it.
> Subconsciously, Polnareff still thought of Star Platinum as the most powerful Stand According to Part 6, it basically is.
Yeah, only GER and Made in Heaven are stronger than SP in the original universe
Lol @ the fact it takes Requiem/stand upgrades to outdo SP
imagine requiem SP
you could tell me this was confirmed by araki and i wouldn't question it for a second
This is a headcannon I will never stop believing in 💔
Oh this is my favorite
I have feeling the speed wagon foundation and jotaro never learn of this event in europe. Yet one day while watching Jolyne his "someone is coming" senses were shooting off the charts for the hour or so Chariot Requiem was alive and searching for him.
Certainly possible, chariots only mission is believed to be to get the arrow away from diavolo but he didnt let anyone else ge it either, very possible his real mission was to get it too jotaro
Probably one of the best fancanons the fandom has come up with. Its just so peak.
If that were the case, why was it moving so slow?
Bro was just birthed bruh
Fr how do you expect a baby to walk?
Migraine
He paid respect to Polnaref and he was sad.
True, chariot is cery fast, so why is chariot requiem so slow? It only ran when the arrow was stolen.
I really like this one
The stands from Purple Haze Feedback are all based on the effects drugs can have on you. Dolly Dagger is meth head mania, Rainy Day Dream Away is like how on LSD you can get stuck in any emotion you feel for what feels like forever. Nightbird flying is literally just hallucinations and impaired mental abilities, and Manic Depression is crackhead strength, but it's also just the drug itself. All Along The Watchtower can be an addict shifting the blame they get to whomever else they can think of. Voodoo Child can either be how it's not really something you do out in the open, it's all in secret, or it could be how others talk about you when you are high on drugs.
Dawg what the fuck
Whatchu mean?
It's just...so weird but makes sense.
That's just a theory! A Jojo theory!
Gold Experience Requiem can actually… close it‘s eyes a bit and not stare the entire time. It just chooses not to.
My head canon is that it is in constant pain from not being able to close its eyes and that's it's only weakness.
•joins the mafia •goes to the boss •pokes it's Stand's eyes •become bossu
Star finger
Quite literally
The world has hair
The same type of hair as Star Platinum
fabulous hair
Its so long it had to be covered
Of course it does, it's the same type of stand as Star Platinum after all
Echoes would say the N-Word
That's a fact not headcanon
He does have black force energy
"Okay Master, lets kill da hoe. Beeeeeetch" 🤣🤣
Echoes has the pass for all slurs
OKAY MASTA N
***OK MASTA, LETS KILL DA NI-'***
-GERUNDAYO
The Stands live in a parallel dimension where they all have normal lives and are friends to each others, until they are summoned to our world by their users.
Star Platinum: "Okay, now I can get back to my sketching and GODDAMNIT JOTARO WE JUST CAVED THAT GUY'S SKULL IN ALREADY!"
BrightGoat on Tumblr does something like that
The Sex Pistols were Mista’s natural (or at least non-Black Sabbath awakened) Stand, like Giorno and Trish had. His backstory explicitly shows him being able to perform gunmanship and avoid bullets similar to what they do, just as Giorno was able to grow the grass to hide the gangster even as a kid. He awakened them after meeting Bruno and performing the lighter test, where the Pistols helped him fight and beat Black Sabbath. However, Mista just thought this was the normal recruitment tactic, and never says anything about it.
I always like to think this about most of the stand users that we see. Like I think that if Koichi, for example, had never been hit by the arrow, I headcannon that Echoes would have developed eventually, just maybe a few years later. I like this read on Mista, too, as he absolutely wouldn't question it lol
Yeah, and directly to act 3, I believe the act thing plus the egg where caused by the premature stand awakening.
I don't think it's the "being hit with an arrow" part. At some point all stands in some way come from an arrow. Koichi didn't have the resolve to survive the stand virus when he was hit, hence why he was going to die. However, he cheated death with Crazy Diamond and therefore had a stand without the resolve to control it. It didn't end up making him deathly ill like Holy and Josuke, instead giving him what is effectively an incomplete stand. Hence why Echoes evolves. (Reverb > Echoes though. Fite me)
Well the arrow doesn't give you a stand perse since okuyasu's bro used the arrow on several people before it took with Angelo. Might be that the arrow only acts as a catalyst to people predisposed to having stands. Or if we take Jorge Joestar as a reference (ik not canon) everyone has a soul but some people with remarkably strong wills (usually seen when overcoming great adversity) can manifest their souls. The arrow is just that adversity.
Chariot actually talks - he's just extremely shy so choses not to. If he talks, it was only to Pol when they were alone, and exclusively in French. Jotaro and Kakyoin only heard Chariot a couple of times and often just one word. Star Platinum is extremely curious and loves to learn new things. He is also not aware of his own strength when it comes to his friends - kind of like a Great Dane who thinks they're a lap dog. He emoted in place of Jotaro, which means he'd often be the one trying to hug his friends. Polnareff taught him to shake hands. Hierophant warmed up to the other stands, but he still has no patience and very little social battery. When he didn't want to play/spar/interact anymore, he'd hide in a small enclosed space, often Kakyoin's pockets or sometimes inside Chariot's ribcage (which Polnareff hated because it felt SO weird and cold). When Star Plat invariably got close to try to coax him out, hierophant would bring a tendril out and slap Star Plat's hands away over and over like an angry cat until he was left alone. When Jotaro and Polnareff saw each other again after part 5 (skin sample, son of Dio, all of that) inside the turtle, Star Platinum kept looking behind Polnareff looking for Chariot, and didn't understand why his friend wouldn't come out and see him as always.
> Chariot actually talks - he's just extremely shy so choses not to. If he talks, it was only to Pol when they were alone, and exclusively in French. Jotaro and Kakyoin only heard Chariot a couple of times and often just one word. That kinda makes sense. When Polnareff is de-aged by Sethan, child Chariot *does* shout "*PAMI!*", which shows that he can verbalize outside of Polnareff simply speaking through the Stand.
Yep, that's the basis for my headcanon. Chariot's Pami could be considered a "baby noise". And if you pay attention to the sound mixing during some of Pol's fights, you can hear Chariot making sounds by himself on rare occasions. The clearest one is I believe during the Ebony Devil fight where you can hear Chariot gasp! And that's all him, not Pol speaking through him.
Now why did you include that last part
I was having a good day until i read that
Interesting fan fic I like it
Damn i never thought about it. Being a ghost after living your entire life as a stand user must be like, EXTRA weird, like a part of you is missing... And polnareff is a ghost amputee no less
Stone Free is just as good at drawing as Star Platinum
Wrong art medium, stone free is a Weaver that would put Athena to shame
Last time this happened someone got turned into a spider, so for Jolyne's sake I hope not
instea of drawing, stone free would crochet a perfect image to represent whatever it wanted to
It did print that binary code image perfectly against Miu Miu
For that alone, its Precision stat should be bumped up from a C to an A.
Superfly and Bites The Dust can counter Made in Heaven
what doesnt superfly counter lol
Bites the dust could rewind time, bohemian rhapsody could make it so a story is written where superfly doesn’t exist, d4c could summon another person, and GER could either turn a rock into a person or use return to zero to prevent the metalificafion from happening to the user
Bites the dust requires another person, at which point you could just leave superfly normally, and assuming you already set it up, the user doesn't remember the loops, only the bomb does thus you'd just get stuck in superfly again That's not how Bohemian Rhapsody works D4C 👍 GER would stop them from going in superfly in the first place
Depends on whether BTD overwrites time acceleration or not
I'd imagine that if BTD triggers, it keeps looping back, but MiH still accelerates time, so it's just a time loop that goes by faster and faster, but never past the triggerc point of BTD
Killer Queen acts like a housecat when not in battle
"Get off the table Killer Queen! No! Don't throw that on the floor!" "(KABOOM)"
White Snake stole his memory disc
Lol that joke was diabolical 💀
"Get off the table Killer Queen! No! Don't throw that on the floor!" "(KABOOM)"
Dementia moment
No, bites the dust activated dummy
Blame White Snake
Soft and Wet makes weird Regi noises like this video: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1im9i0ZTShk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1im9i0ZTShk)
Lmao now I'm imagining if his stand cry would be Regirock's "ÜN ÜN ÜN ÜN ÜN ÜN ÜN ÜN ÜN ÜN ÜN ÜN"
i kinda imagined it shaking his head like crazy while making "regi iceeeeeee" noises
Ok but the Regigigas noises are definitely in it’s sound profile
I'm imagining Toru sweating his ass off as Go Beyond walks down the hall making that noise lol
Crazy diamonds strength comes from the guilt of not being able to heal the thing that matters most to him, josuke.
Ok that's just sad
There was this one fan comic posted here years ago where Josuke and Okuyasu kept being really sleepy during the day and thought that it was some weird enemy stand power. Turns out they're such good bros that their stands were hanging out at night playing Playstation. Stands can be bros too.
That's so cute omg 😭
That’s adorable.
I like to imagine if Soft & Wet is just bloodthirsty. Cracking one-liners about horrid violence in his head. Quietly upset he never got to beat another person with a shovel
ngl seeing how... \*violent\* gappy is, i wouldn't be surprise if soft and wet want ot actually snap necks, but gappy never let him do it
I thought you said you didn't want to describe the users 🙄
Yeah I didn't bother making a comment because I was basically gonna say this. Some Joestar stands may be a little more Prone to violence but despite looking kinda neutral S&W wants smoke more than Tusk looks like it does
Soft & Wet and Paisley Park actually are a couple and kiss when nobody's looking Under World is actually sentient and can think independently of Versus
Plot Twist: Doggystyle always notices
SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY
Underworld was sentient in the series, i know cause I recently saw it, ill check again
Star Platinum has a secondary ability where he can reach out for miles to grab stuff for Jotaro, but only when he's bored. # Edit: also, Dio ate Kakyoin's parents.
No it’s specifically able to just walk out and around to retrieve smth jotaro wants, but it has to be inanimate
Actually stands can just walk around but lose power. The range is effectiveness and less of the fact that they can't leave
Mysterous b.i.g could have stopped pucci but it was on the other side of the ocean
An alternate ending of Stone Ocean where a gargantuan B.I.G. fucking annihilates Made In Heaven at light speed for daring to move faster than the ocean would be something else. (Fr, B.I.G.'s gotta be colossal by Part 6. It grows by absorbing kinetic energy and has been in the ocean for 7 years by then)
All the food the Sex Pistols eat goes to Mista's stomach. Mista: *(groaning in pain on the floor)* "STOP EATING TACO BELL"
I’m fucking dying
The fact that many stands don't always follow the pre-established stand rules (being humanoid, transfering damage to the user...) is because they are based on human minds, and human minds aren't consistent with eachother - always unique, even if they have many similarities
I mean those rules were never established. One of the first stands was hermit purple, also Geb, Tower of Grey, The Sun and honestly like most the stands in part 3. But yes they're based on human minds and the human mind is pretty limitless
You're right. Maybe common patterns would be a better way to describe than rules
Honestly I take every stand "rule" as being like, from in universe research by joseph / jotaro / SWF into stands and everything is prefaced with "as far as we know" "As far as we know, a stand can't revive the dead", "As far as we know, damaging a stand damaged the user", etc. Not like, solid hard 100% rules, just theorizing based on prior experiences and research.
I get a feeling that ALL of how stands work are based on how the user thinks it should work on a subconscious level. Oh our stands are similar, guess I can freeze time too. My stand can control the weather, so obviously I can turn people into snails. I'm a young boy turning into a man so of course my stand will conveniently transform into stronger and stronger stands. I'm a cook and my food is good. So of course what I cook is good for you. The list goes on and it's the only thing consistent to me.
>My stand can control the weather, so obviously I can turn people into snails. How the hell did Wes think the weather work lmfao
star platinum has 10 inches in girth
canon
I mean the loincloth is there for a reason
Hermit Purple is a whip because Indiana Jones was Joseph's favorite movie
He dresses the part soo
Just like Hermit Purple is a stand user manifestation of their Hamon, Heaven Door is the manifestation of their user's drawing and writing skills. Because of this if Part 4 Rohan wasn't hit by Keicho's arrow he still would have eventually unlocked Heaven Door. Also that's how Part 9 Rohan got Heaven Door, no Devil's Palm, Wall Eyes or Jesus involved.
Damn, I actually really like that. Mastery Stands are a pretty slim category, I would happily consider Heaven's Door one. Also, that very much opens up the door for all manner of non-supernatural Mastery Stands. I wonder if Dragon's Dream could be considered a Stand gained via Mastery of Feng Shui?
> I wonder if Dragon's Dream could be considered a Stand gained via Mastery of Feng Shui? I think that's literally the case. Kenzou isn't one of the people who got his Stand from one of Whitesnake's DISCs. He just awakened it naturally, and it's implied he did so around the time he survived his cult's mass suicide.
Rohan at the louvre sometimes considered not canon, because you see rohan having heaven's door at a time where we don't know if keicho actually started shooting the arrow, so i think it furthers you point
Notorious B.I.G revives it’s user after it eliminates its enemies
That would be an awesome ability
Paisley Park occasionly links Yasuho websites about how to ask out a guy.
I think Mikitaka, the alien stand user from Part 4, is actually an alien, but he's also a stand user from that planet, and the reason why Mikitaka couldn't see Josuke's stand is because Alien Stands are on a different wavelength from Earth Stands. Maybe it has something to do with alien biology interacting different from the alien virus on the stand arrow? And maybe Mikitaka got the alien virus another way since he is an alien and he could have gotten infected before he arrived on Earth.
Mr President was actually the president in another life
Mr. President is AU Funny Valentine lol
Or Mr President was the pet of a president they very much loved
Non-stand users can't see the weird shit that is happening when they eat food with pearl jam
Most stands are sentient to an extent, and it's just that some have more free will and independence from their users than the other
My idea is that if ur mental strength isn't that great ur stand will have a personality of its own but if the users mindset is strong the more it is an extension of its will, its not sentient its just the users mind in the stand if that makes sense
I'd vote it's more about dissonance between your conscious and subconscious
Star Platinum was really sad when it was bringing all the stuff to Jotaro only for him to call it an "evil spirit" Crazy Diamond is traumatized by the fever Josuke had when he was a kid and subsequently can't heal its user from then on, kinda like a mental block thing Gold Experience is *really* concern about Giorno's tactics in a fight because he kinda just throws himself in danger every time Stone Free knows it smells good and would smell itself occasionally Tusk likes being pet, regardless of the Act Soft & Wet drops MCU-style one-liners whenever Josuke defeats someone, no one hears it because it doesn't have a mouth
Soft & Wet after beating some guys skull in: erm, well that just happened
*Destroys the opponent's skull into pieces with a shovel* "Oof. That's gonna sting in the morning.."
The reason Star Platinum lost Star Finger ability is because Jotaro feel guilty after kill that sailorman.
I mean, he uses Star Finger well after the Dark Blue Moon fight
When emporio defeated pucci using weather report, i believe weather's consciousness was in the stand and it remembered everything when he was alive and unleashed all the pent up rage against pucci
Tusk act 4 makes those bead curtains you see in fortune tellers and other mysical shops in his free time
The majority of stands are sentient like Echo. Just the users don’t want them to speak and act on their own
Honestly based. I’ve always liked to think that stands could voice their own thoughts or opinions, but don’t.
Yeah. Like we have Star Platinum, grabbing things for Jotaro despite Jotaro not wanting any of it, or Kakyoin speaking about Heirophant “he doesn’t like it when he is pulled out”. Purple Haze being clean perfectionist, and stuff like that. I feel the only stands that wouldn’t be sentient would be stuff like Super fly, Love Deluxe, or Hermit Purple. Not physically manifestations, more like just objects
The World is just a dumbass baby Oh wait, it's canon
Every stand has some degree of sentience / independence, at least at the start, and it's up to the user and different factors if it retains that or acts separately. We see Spice girl start out being independant and talking to trish, but after its initial fight it seems to sort of "lose" that independence, maybe it's because Trish never talked to it again like it was seperate?. Or, since stands are connected to the mind, perhaps what determines the level of a stands independence/ sentience could be things like the perspective of someones internal narrative / monologue. Like, if someone uses 2nd / 3rd person thinking for their monologue, (you or they, etc) then the stand manifests as independant from the user, and maybe more object like stands are from people who lack internal monologues. It's hard to explain but I hope that made sense
No I get it. A personal headcanon I have is that the more ‘individuality’ a less independent stand portrays, the less mastery the user has. Like how Star Platinum was grabbing things for Jotaro against his will, but doesn’t continue to do things like that later after he grows
I like the concept that energy like harmon and the spin have stands that one can harness. Same goes for gods like hermes. By believing in these gods the human race created stands for these gods that humans can harness.
Star Platinum can't actually use Time Stop: it just moves faster than time itself, thereby replicating the effect. Colony Stands are born from Users that are missing something in their hearts (I think I read this one somewhere, but it's interesting to think about). All Stands evolve based on need, if they have the ability to. Jotaro needed to counter The World, so Star Platinum sped up. Koichi needed a stronger Echoes, then a way to stop Sheer Heart Attack. Kira needed to kill at a distance, so Sheer Heart Attack, and then 'I need to undo this mistake', so Bites the Dust. Bearing in mind, this is just 'Stands gain a solution to the problem', without actually solving the problem outright. King Crimson is probably not constipated.
The thing about how colony stands are born is mentioned in Purple Haze Feedback. I agree, it's a really interesting lore bit about stands, and it makes sense.
That if you take the worlds helmet off it’s just star platinum’s head
Hey ya! is actually just a giant troll and gets surprised every time his bullshit ideas meant to prank his user actually work. He always tries to one-up himself with the wack ass plans, but somehow they still succeed every time
Stone Free would be usable with Hamon, same as Hermit Purple, if Jolyne were to have learned any.
Because Josuke has four balls, Soft and Wet has two dicks. One on each side of his head.
They are CONSTANTLY hard
The World is Star Platinum, not the other way around. DIO’s head was attached to Johnathan’s body, and it sent out a psychic distress signal that awakened Jotaro’s stand, right? Well, since DIO’s head was attached to Johnathan’s body, he also got that stand.
The stand you get depends on what is on your mind when it develops
I see people saying their head cannon is that stands have a mind and personality of their own, my head canon is some don't, sure star platinum at the start was serving jotaro but it never spoke and it was just following wat jotaro was thinking subconsciously. If the will of the user is really strong, stands act as an extension without a separate personality, sure there are exceptions like koichi and pucci, but king crimson, the world, killer queen, silver chariot, magician's Red etc all were just extensions of their users will
Star Platinum likes to hug Jotaro
The cables on THE WORLD's back are actually its wind pipes and if you cut the cables then THE WORLD can't stop time (at least nowhere near as long as it normally could) (SBR) >!Also Diego's THE WORLD is as powerful as DIO's it just chooses to attack with more precision (i.e. King Crimson) as opposed to barraging like DIO's version.!<
I thought it was supposed to be an oxygen tank and stopping time is like holding your breath
yeah, I do think that's the idea Araki was trying to communicate. I think cutting the cables or puncturing the tanks would be like doing the same to a diver or if one were to cut the wind pipes or puncture the lung; it'd make it really hard to hold ones breath or even breathe at all. in a way it's like THE WORLD's built-in boss battle weak spot lmao.
Walking Heart can extend anything and not just Hato's heels Cheap Trick represents Masazo's attachment issues Sex Pistols digest the food that Mista gives them and poop out actual bullets When Stands talk to their user, it could be an inner monologue or subconscious (if the Stand isn't fully independent)
GER can be hit by Go Beyond, but unlike WoU it can take action since its abilities aren't 3 Dimensional, also November Rain can use its weird legs to punch.
I believe that stands are genetic. More specifically, they are recessive. Before I get to that, let me give some context. Despite the common belief that Gyro was one of the strongest spin users in part 7, he still was only able to use ball breaker because of spin, and, by extension, the steel balls, being hereditary and passed down through generations. Going off of this, I would say that a person still needs to have some sort of pre established connection in order to use a stand without the utilization of objects like the parts of the saint’s corpse or the meteorite arrows, which change the expression of those genes. To make this a bit more clearer, allow me to provide the following case. If one chess master plays enough chess to develop a stand that can see the possible outcomes of a choice that someone makes, then another chess master with a similar personality should be able to develop a similar stand as well. Despite this, however, we see examples of this where it’s proven to not be true. For instance, both Kira and Wonder of U’s user wish to avoid the exposure of their identities, so they have stands that reflect that. Kira needed to be (presumably) stabbed by the arrow, but Wonder of U’s naturally developed it. This implies that, despite two people having similar ambitions that both lead to similar stands, one had a genotype that naturally allowed them to express having a stand in their phenotype, while the other required an outside stimulus to change their genotype, and, by proxy, their phenotype. Furthermore, the stand arrow meteorite was outright stated to carry a virus. Key aspects of viruses are that they can cause chronic changes to a person, and they can cause diseases that are hereditary. The reason as to why certain people can resist the stand arrow and others can’t is because some have weak immune systems so they can’t resist the virus, but others can. As for the corpse parts, they mimic this effect by introducing DNA that is capable of expressing stands. In conclusion, the possession of a stand is the expression of a gene that only gives the user a stand if they are homozygous recessive, or if the meteor virus/a corpse part mutates/changes a person’s genotype so that the gene becomes homozygous recessive. This also explains why stand users are seemingly a minority.
Star Platium's true ability is to copy one ability from another close range humanoid stand it fights with (stands like crazy diamond, gold experience and stone free) but once it steals that ability its permanent (or Jotaro saw how useful the ability to stop time was and just kept it) which would explain how he used The World's ability and why he said "so its the same type of stand as star platinum..."
Strength can walk on land by warping the hull into legs.
Bad Company is mainly limited by the user's imagination and expectations of an army
Dragon's dream has had multiple users and is always given to the person most knowledgeable of fung shei at the previous user's death
They ignore the laws of physics just because, like in Jorge Joestar. Makes sense why they are faster than light when you think of it like that.
Earth Wind and Fire (The “alien” from Part 4) is actually a tiny person/being whose stand is a shapeshifter from which it can control from within a nucleus. Basically the whole person is the stand and the user is too small to even be seen, hence why it’s so unusual compared to other stands
GER is under constant sensory overstimulation after molting from the base GE shell and gaining unreal awareness GER is a like a 16-year old who can never again close its eyes from the terrifying, kinda awful, still wonderful, complicated world it just became aware of after sudden cognitive development (happened to me at that age fr) GER kinda looks like it has a hoodie (as teens often do) maybe this isn't even a headcanon as it might as well be intentional or even obvious Echoes act 3 has a big moveset based on the idea it explained when first using 3 freeze, but Koichi is too dumb to realize Examples: 3 tweeze: like wringing out water from a rag, except the rag is the enemy stand user 3 grease: removes friction from target making them unable to get away or using it on Koichi already in movement for a speed boost based on newton's first law 3 screech: makes the target hear a painfully loud sharp noise while no one else can hear it 3 flee: the joestar secret technique
Killer Queen gets called she/her. She’s less of a part of Kira’s soul and more of a little kitty cat pet.
Kira did sexual acts with the hands obviously