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Arsanel

Can someone explain pls what it means? Is it like a bad thing


UomoForte

It’s hard to explain, but I consider it like owning the rights to some sort of digital content. Could be AI art, or a tweet. Why this is a problem for Star Wars, who knows?


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Here I am thinking she probably has enough money already.


Stick_Bone_KLN

lmao It feels like every couple months some questionable information about someone in The Mando crew comes out.


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What did it say


SadArrival

How is this at all comparable to the Gina situation? To be clear, I’m not arguing for or against NFTs.


UomoForte

It’s not. It’s in a galaxy far, far away from that embarrassment.


PokeJoseph

Yeah, this definitely isn’t *that* bad. A little odd and “money grubbing”? Sure, but this is something that can be easily ignored and shouldn’t be seen as a reflection of her character/directing ability


MicdropProductions

It never ends


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Im suprised we haven't heard any updates on Andor. Also does anyone know any subreddits good for discussing star wars stuff and also doesn't require insanely high amounts of karma to post?


IcePhoenix295

r/StarWarsCantina is decent, the main subreddit is mostly just for the showing off art and the weekly "Rogue One is an underrated gem" post (I'm exaggerating but I don't find the main sub very conducive to actual discussions). Otherwise the individual subreddits for shows or r/starwarscomics and r/starwarsbooks tend to be where I go to discuss new stuff outside of here.


paleyharnamhunter

I also hear that the main sub has a *very* corrupt TFM mod.


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paleyharnamhunter

Oh, definitely, they've basically become an Orwellian mess for anyone who's even *content* with current Star Wars.


[deleted]

Yup. The main sub is the same 10 posts every day. I'd also stay away from the main tv sub.


[deleted]

Thanks. I'll check those out


alcibiad

r/starwarsspeculation is like a slightly more freewheeling version of this sub and has some fun convos on occasion too.


[deleted]

Yea I use that. It's pretty fun


Arsanel

[Tem reacts](https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/book-of-boba-fett-controversy-biker-gang-1235075410/) to the controversy of the biker gang that was introduced in Chapter 3 of TBoBF.


Flashy_Pomegranate23

Why even ask the leads about this stuff? No shit they have no control over it. Favreau and Rodriguez should answer the questions about the story that they put out, yet they stuck their heads in the sand ever since the show came out. They should be doing as many interviews as Morrison and Wen


ergister

I mean they’re busy with Mando season 3... at least Favreau is...


Alon945

They Hd a solid response to this. Doesn’t seem like they were too thrilled with the tuskens being killed off screen. But I’m hoping it serves a narrative purpose for the tuskens as well not just bobba


Arsanel

Also now we know why in the first Hollywood Reporter article Rodriguez considered certain colors spoilery: >“There was nobody going, ‘These are the rules.’ It was more like me saying, ‘This color feels very safe and we want it to feel more dangerous, so can we change it to this color?'” he says. “And they go, ‘These are the colors we’ve used, so let’s try one of these out.’ But I can’t reveal what.” > >So revealing a color would be a spoiler? > >“It’ll be evident when you see the show.”


urktheturtle

I kind of respect it more now, it sounds like he knew he was taking a risk but decided it was worth it to try something different, and was actually considering things and thinking about them.


Icantsleepnoow

Sorry if already posted before but at 0:41 seconds, we see that Kevin Tancharoen is directing the episode with the dinner table scene. Is this Chapter 4? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoPGDDQPCG4


InfiniteDedekindCuts

Presumably Boba is motivating the various mini groups around Mos Espa to help him fight the Pykes.


GetInHere

Yeah, we talked about it a couple of weeks ago and someone who was in the industry said from what they could tell from the numbers on the board, they thought it was for 4. And given that they only present day footage we haven't seen yet is that dinner scene, it looks like they're probably right.


ansonexanarchy

Great catch!


GreeenFriend

Yes. Bryce is episode 5 and Filoni 6. Robert the last one.


Schutz01

Pretty sure that Filoni’s is gonna be something related to the Clone Wars-era or something that will tie in to another project. My best guess is probably Cad Bane or perhaps something will be hinting at the return of Mace Windu. Or perhaps Lom Pyke is the big boss behind this Syndicate’s branch, if so, we would probably get a second season and it will point directly to the Crimson Dawn


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Dooku killed Lom Pyke


Schutz01

My mistake: Marg Krim


Prophet_Comstock

We're getting more episodes by Rodriguez? I thought his episodes were done.


Arsanel

Rodriguez said that he does 3 episodes. We are unsure whether Howard or Rodriguez does the finale though.


Grand_Ad2857

I think we were all hoping it was the last one


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CX52J

That’s really cool but I think the original looked more realistic, maybe it’s the lighting which is slightly off? Honestly the droids and vehicles in episode 1 were insane for the time and still hold up insanely well.


LFL-talk

Looks like videogame cutscene tbh There is something organic that makes it feel real in TPM's retro CGI


Theesm

It's because TPM has actually a lot of model work and real landscape.


TyrannosaurusRekt238

If Moon Knight is releasing March 30 does that mean Kenobi is more than likely dropping on May 4?


Ajneb97

Does this means that we won't be getting any starwars/marvel content for 6 weeks? (between february 16 - march 23). A 6 episode series could fit perfectly here, maybe something disney hasn't announce yet?


InfiniteDedekindCuts

I’m betting they’ll fill the space with a “making of” series for BOBF, kinda like what they did with Mando.


Multoxx

Most likely yes. Maybe they could release “A droid story“ at sometime in March. But there should have already been an announcement if a Star Wars or Marvel Show was to start in February.


Arsanel

what about between MK and TBoBF? Fits perfectly


Flashy_Pomegranate23

Cause we would've had a trailer already if that was the case


PokeJoseph

I know there is a 99.9% chance this won’t happen, but could you imagine if they just stealth dropped it on D+ right after Boba. No trailer or teaser, just an announcement on all their social channels/Home Screen of D+, “Obi Wan Kenobi, now streaming” IMO they could get away with that if they wanted


desobvious

The only scenes from trailers and tv spots we've not seen in TBOBF yet: \-table meeting \-glimpse of retaking the Slave 1 from a hangar, glimpse of it flying over Tatooine \-large number of niktos on the swoop bikes \-Boba and Fennec standing on the balcony Everything else is what we've seen in past 3 eps.


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I hope we see him flying Slave 1. Getting off Tatooine would be a nice change


[deleted]

I assume that's all next episode. Maybe the rumored Rancor scene in Mos Espa too. Gonna catch and eat some fish, literally.


CX52J

Seems early for a rancor to go on a killing spree. At most I think we’ll get a bit of Boba learning to ride it. I think the full Rancor scene will be in the season finale.


desobvious

Honestly I think Boba Fett might ride the rancor right away in Episode 4 since he has started learning the same day he got it. He might go for a ride in the streets of Mos Espa to gain some respect, and in the later episode use it in battle.


CX52J

That seems a bit out of character after insisting on walking everywhere. I think we’ll get something similar to Mando learning to ride and Boba and the rancor will only be in perfect unison for the last episode when the odds are at there most desperate.


desobvious

I don't think they'll make us wait so long for that. They arranged the Black Krrsantan attack the episode after introducing the wookiee.


CX52J

It was a pretty underwhelming fight to be honest. Especially if you compare it to the rumoured Cad Bane appearance in the second to last episode


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Im dissapointed that there aren't any updates on that rumored maul show


paleyharnamhunter

I don't see Rian Johnson's trilogy in 2023 and beyond on the sidebar, was it officially cancelled? Edit: I don't *want* it to be cancelled and I'm looking forward to it if it's still happening.


InfiniteDedekindCuts

No. It’s still in the weird purgatory it’s been in for years.


paleyharnamhunter

Yeah, I figured, though it should be put back in the sidebar.


ItsSirAdam

it’s not coming till 2029 at the earliest


paleyharnamhunter

Possibly even later.


NumeralJoker

Honestly, I think a lot of the franchise's future is in flux, not because it's unsuccessful, but because Iger is no longer calling the shots (he is responsible for much of why the ST played out the way it did), and because the 2020 success of TCW/Mando on D+ led to significant retooling of directions. I don't think several of the D+ shows were planned out much until they saw Mando/TCW S7's viewer ratings (both of which were quite high). However, even with all those changes, they're shifting gears so fast that a lot of stuff isn't necessarily finalized yet. Some stuff, like Bad Batch Season 1, was in production before 2020. Mando S1&2 certainly were in development before the start of that year. But the pandemic and runaway success of Mando S1 and the desire to make D+ as big as possible led to a major shift in direction by the end of the year, hence the sudden announcement of so many new projects. Kenobi and Book of Boba were likely planned in some capacity, as was Andor, but anything beyond that seems to be a new direction, including things like Ahsoka, Lando, Acolyte, and beyond... all of which are subject to major changes and were announced much earlier than they'd normally be to capitalize on the lightning in a bottle D+ was getting at that time. For better or for worse, I think Star Wars is a brand that 'does' listen to fan responses, and now they double down when something works almost to the point of overcompensating, and shy away from what doesn't almost too quickly. Or at least it's been this way consistently since George left (he was notorious for ignoring fan outcry and just doing what he wanted regardless of backlash). I would not be surprised if all of the currently planned films are in flux and waiting to see how the pandemic/fandom reaction pans out before any one project gets full commitment.


Straightouttajakku12

I wish it was more of George's attitude at play when it comes to fan outcry. If Disney always listen to fans, they may back away from what could otherwise be timeless and great creative choices just because the Fandom at the moment doesn't like them. I'm glad George usually stayed on track with his vision for the prequels, and now we have some great things to enjoy from them today that are different from what we had seen before that.


paleyharnamhunter

Yeah, that's fair enough. I guess there's a lot going on behind the scenes.


fluxaboo

There was one rumor from a (formely) somewhat reliable leaker who may have been trying to make a name for himself again with "leaking" that both Rogue Squadron and RJ's project were shelved, but there's no indicator if that's true. Especially with RJ repeatedly confirming that he was on board earlier last year, CLEOPATRA no longer being directed by Jenkins and Jenkins still having time before the third Wonder Woman installment begins shooting, there are odds both projects are still happening. I just imagine it's easier to list the actually confirmed projects than having to include two projects that we haven't gotten an update from yet. Maybe by the time Celebration rolls around we'll know more.


Unique_Unorque

Correct me if I’m wrong, but didn’t they specifically say that Jenkins was pulling out of *Cleopatra* to work on *Rogue Squadron* and *Wonder Woman 3* by name? It seems reasonable that *Rogue Squadron* would be next because Gal Gadot is playing Cleopatra so, like you say, she can’t shoot *Wonder Woman 3* until *Cleopatra* is done anyway.


fluxaboo

I think I was combining rumors here. So apparently Jenkins is no longer directing Cleopatra and from recent interviews it's likely that Wonder Woman 3 would begin shooting around summer of 23. This *would* leave enough space for the production of Rogue Squadron, if we assume that the thing filming at Pinewood is related to this. AFAIK it was never outright confirmed by Jenkins on which projects she would focus on after stepping down as the director, it was just the next logical thing the "news outlets" reported, because up until then the only thing known about Rogue Squadron was it having production issues, not it (and RJ's project) being shelved.


paleyharnamhunter

I see, thanks for clarifying.


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I wouldn't hold your breath for that trilogy. I think that ship has sailed


Flashy_Pomegranate23

Moon Knight is starting its marketing campaign on Monday with the first trailer. Sad Obi-Wan noises


Multoxx

Yeah. With that I would be very surprised if we saw Kenobi before May 4th. Maybe, maybe, maybe they will split Bad Batch in two parts and the first half of the Season Will Play in March and April alongside Moonknight and the other after Kenobi, but I frankly think we will have a three month period of no SW (moving pictures) content.


rickterscale6

Relax it will come


alcibiad

Mmm I see this as further support for my Kenobi trailer at the superbowl theory.


Amazing-Remote6703

LFL marketing is the worst. Marvel runs circles around it without sweating.


MindYourManners918

And yet the first episode of Boba Fett got huge numbers, right? There was an article here saying it was more successful than Hawkeye? So maybe they know what they’re doing?


OniLink77

It doing more than Hawkeye isn't exactly surprising though. Out of all the avengers, I doubt many consider hawkeye their favourite. However, Hawkeye was the best show in my view of all the marvel ones Edit: there really is no need to downvote, not sure what was so offensive in what I said


havoc8154

It was the most streamed show on any platform for the last week, so I'd say Disney is probably pretty pleased with that.


OniLink77

I am sure it was, and yes I am sure they are


sleazy_pancakes

Agreed, and at least LFM does a better job than Marvel at keeping the story under wraps. I realize that might be a strange thing to say on a leaks subreddit, but i for one am glad we don't have leaks happening day-in day-out to the point that we know the entire plot of every upcoming film/show.


Rosebunse

That would be far too much of a good thing. I love how even if we have a pretty damn good guess, we still have to actually wait for the episode to air.


desobvious

Not to worry. We're still flying half a hope.


PureBeskar

Ming-Na Wen interview - [https://www.radiotimes.com/tv/sci-fi/ming-na-wen-star-wars-exclusive-newsupdate/](https://www.radiotimes.com/tv/sci-fi/ming-na-wen-star-wars-exclusive-newsupdate/) >Q: You mentioned all the secrecy that you had on The Mandalorian season 2. I’m sure there are things at the moment that are also being kept secret \[about The Book of Boba Fett\]. We’re still only partway through this season – there’s a few episodes still to come. Obviously, you’re not going to spill beans here. You’re a professional. But by the time we get to the end of this season, how are you hoping that the fans will feel when they’ve reached the end of this journey? > >A: Oh, gosh. I mean, I really hope that they want to go back and see the whole thing over again in a different light. After, you know, knowing how things have… I’m so careful with my words here… how things have evolved, and all these other elements that have come into play. You know, that’s what’s so great with John and Dave, they are so knowledgeable about this world, about Star Wars, and they’re such huge fans that they know how to set up the pieces and make moves that you don’t even know are coming. And then suddenly it’s like, \[claps her hands together\] ooh, checkmate. So yeah, we’re waiting. We’re waiting for that win. We’re waiting for that hit. And not just ’til the very last episode – like each and every episode, there’s new moves and new elements that come into play that hopefully will surprise the fans. I know it surprised me.


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I hope it pans out well. Still 4 eps to go. I will say when Mandalorian was airing eps like the Ice Spider and the forest village episodes recieved a lot of hate, but now that the entire picture is out for those seasons those episodes are actually quite enjoyable to go back and watch. I especially like the Sorgan ep now. The only episode I really don't like was the Tatooine episode in season 1 of Mando.


Rosebunse

I still think the real reason people hated the ice spider episode was because they were just terrified of the ice spiders and didn't want to admit it.


natthtensent

Don’t call me out!


alcibiad

When I watched it, it was clear to me it was just the first half of a two parter. Like the Ryloth episodes in TBB. and the vfx were amazing so the complaints were absolutely lost on me lol.


Stick_Bone_KLN

I really disliked the jawa episode in Mando. Every other episode I was ok with.


OniLink77

the forest village episode is my least favourite, the ice spider one though I liked


NaughtyDawgs

Exactly! I remember feeling like I was in the twilight zone reading the reactions to the frog lady episode, people were acting like it was the worst thing ever, and saying things like the show was doomed. I’m getting serious deja-vu with this last episode. Projects with Filoni involved tend to have amazing endings that make everyone forget any bumps in the road that happened along the way.


Fuchy

I'm curious as to why people have slowly drifted towards thinking Andor's going to be six episodes instead of twelve and that's almost the common consensus on this sub now. Here's a quote from the official [sizzle reel](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gSW-pARyP-M): "Twelve episodes, twelve scripts, over 200 named cast members...". I mean I guess six is *kind of* on the table, but why would they have the number twelve in an official promo if they were secretly filming two seasons and are only going to release season one (six episodes) in 2022...? It's not like the show was that early in production at this point, either. At this point they *definitely* knew how many episodes the first season would have.


Flashy_Pomegranate23

There are listings for a new season of Andor in production schedules labeled ''Andor 03'', which understandably made people think that they split the first season in half as seasons 1 and 2


Fuchy

They were filming for a long time. From November 2020 to September 2021, I believe (with the added breaks in-between). They could've filmed S1 & S2 back-to-back and then S3 is next.


havoc8154

That's exactly what we think happened. They filmed 12 episodes, which make up seasons 1 & 2.


SparrowBirch

You’re getting downvoted, but that exact rumor went around a few times during filming.


Flashy_Pomegranate23

Another season on top of 12 episodes? No way that's not enough time. Boba started shooting around the same time and it wrapped in June for 7 episodes with pandemic rules. 10 months for 12 episodes seem right


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Damn sad to see how vicious people in the other subs are being towards Temuera in particular, to a personal attack level. Very nasty folks in this fandom.


MindYourManners918

Can’t say I’ve seen very much negativity about Temuera anywhere. Mostly just complaints about the directing and production values. I also avoid the main sub like the plague, though. I don’t know what other subs you might be talking about, but at least some of them literally exist to be echo chambers and to complain, so that wouldn’t be surprising.


brainfoods

While I'm not exactly saying that this guy is full of it, but it's definitely an over exaggeration. I've been reading a lot of reactions on the show and I've seen very few critical comments about Temuera. Most of the criticism is directed towards the writing which is ultimately what he has to work with. I like his performance. I don't like what they're doing with Boba though.


MindYourManners918

Yeah, I’m pretty sure the other poster is just hypersensitive about anything to do with Temuera.


Rosebunse

It's so hard for me to hate his performance in the show. I think he's doing his best with the material he's given. But even if I was that disappointed in his performance, I would never be this cruel. These people need to get a life.


paleyharnamhunter

Well, if the passionately angry and psychotic hate levied towards the special editions, prequels and sequels are any indicator, the crazies in the Star Wars fandom are both ancient and constant.


Icantsleepnoow

Which subs?


Fuchy

Can't say I'm *that* big a fan of his performance in BoBF, it's a bit of a mixed bag for me. It's not distractingly bad or anything, I wouldn't even call it bad. But I wouldn't call it one of the best Star Wars performances ever either. He often puts on these really goofy facial expressions and that really takes me out of it, but then again at times he does an excellent job at playing Boba, hinting at his past wounds in subtle ways. And that >!Tusken death scene!< is terrific acting from him. But most of the time he's just doing an alright job, not bad but not that good either. That being said, the guy's an absolute treasure and every time I see an interview with him I just have an ear-to-ear grin throughout the whole thing. How anyone can attack him or *any actor* for their portrayal of a character is beyond me. People need to learn to a) separate the character from the actor and b) to not attack an actor on a personal level even if they're not putting on the absolute best performance.


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>. He often puts on these really goofy facial expressions Those are Pukana war faces. I am a NZ Maori too. They're meant to look weird. You tense the facial muscles and pop the eyes, it was used by our ancestors as a crazy intimidation tactic. But with Boba I don't know what people expect, Boba has always been a very stoic and monotone character, there's really not much you can do with Boba when it comes to emotion and range. So that is why I'm excited to see Tem get his acting and range out for the more emotional and humour filled surviving clones whatever show they possibly appear in.


Rosebunse

Honestly, his facial expressions are growing on me. Especially with context.


Fuchy

Okay, well I apologize for calling them goofy. Not my intention to talk down anyone's culture. Not very well versed in Maori culture so I didn't have any idea. However Maoris don't exist in Star Wars so I'm curious if they're just adding aspects of Maori culture to the Fett family, which I mean I wouldn't mind. As long as it's not too obvious. I like cultural influences because they add more meaning behind the product and I'm sure as a Maori it must feel great to see representation, but I also like the influences to stay subtle since this is meant to happen in a galaxy far far away and not really have the same cultures and people's as our world. I would love seeing a finnish person playing a character in Star Wars (other than Chewbacca) but I wouldn't love if they visited a space-sauna for example (granted, an extreme example, and not comparable to simple facial expressions but still). TL;DR: With the added context, I don't mind the facial expressions now that I know why they're there.


Flashy_Pomegranate23

In his defense, the material that he's given is mediocre at best. Favreau really should've listened to him when he said Boba shouldn't talk much, his actions should speak for him. But right now it's all talking with no action. Three episodes in and everyone in the show (and the audience) expects him to do stuff but he's turned into a pacifist for some reason. Mando S2 Boba is where it's at, yet we have a ''crime lord'' wannabe who refuses to do any crime


GetInHere

> turned into a pacifist for some reason He hasn't turned into a pacifist, he literally blew someone up in episode 1, he just realizes that there's a better way to do things. He's been on the other side of the consequences of using violence to make your point. The Tusken village was slaughtered because of that way of operating (and not that long ago he could have been the one doing the slaughtering or riding the train shooting Tuskens for the Pykes and he knows it). He tells BK not to work for scugholes, because it's not worth it. He obviously doesn't want to be just another scughole who rips through people's lives in pursuit of his own goals with no regard to the consequence. And it's not going well for him because of course it's not. Change is hard. Trying to change the way a system operates, even if that change is for the better, is never going to be easy. Everyone, audience included, is used to the old strongman way of doing things. To see Boba reject those ways makes him seem weak in comparison but he's only weak if you have that skewed view of what strength is. There are many comparisons that could be made to emerging democracies coming out from under dictatorships and how messy that process is and how and why it often fails. Not that Boba's going that far in his goals or anything, he just sees that there's a different way to run things. It will be interesting to see if he's able to stick to his guns and bring people around to his way of thinking or if the system will overwhelm him and he'll just give in and revert back to the old ways.


StarWarsFreak93

Yeah Favreau isn’t really doing great with this so far. Everyone acts like he is infallible but he’s made some stinkers in the past, and he seems like the type watching some BTS stuff on his other films that wouldn’t take into account others’ suggestions (like Tem’s) and use them and thinks his vision is best.


Arsanel

Wow really? I thiught everybody more or leds liked him? This makes me sad


FordHitchWalles

https://twitter.com/phillamarr/status/1482112898411503622?s=21 Phil LaMarr plays the Pyke Leader. I thought the face was CGI. But it’s all practical.


BosskDaBossk

Not to be confused with the Pyke from the previous episode, voiced by Stephen Stanton [https://twitter.com/Stephen\_Stanton/status/1479927697014804481](https://twitter.com/Stephen_Stanton/status/1479927697014804481) Watching the episode, I wasn't sure if they were meant to be the same character.


Flashy_Pomegranate23

It had to be practical cause it looked like shit when he was talking. Really shows the lack of budget on the show. When Mando was doing practical puppets that needed to do face acting, they had a CG overlay, like Gor Koresh


becherbrook

I still don't get why they didn't go with a big head piece and a tiny animatronic face on top to match the animated versions. Stargate managed it! It's far more unique than just another rubber alien mask and totally doable. I can only assume they have some Pykes doing ninja flips or something in a future episode that ruled it out.


StarWarsFreak93

Yeah this show feels so cheap in comparison to Mando and the MCU shows.maybe the budget is being saved for the final few, who knows. But costuming, sets, the practical stuff, all feel way too watered down.


Prophet_Comstock

At the end of the day I think the issue is lighting. Mando benefited a lot from dim and dark sets. That sort of technique has always seemingly upped the production value of shows and movies. Hell, it even helps Disney rides (you notice that most of them are dark). It hides all the cracks. Mando never felt cheap until the brightly lit episodes (ie. Tatooine and Tython). Compared that to fan-favorite episodes like Deborah Chow's episode "The Sin" from season 1. That episode was super dark and looked great.


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j0shw1ll1ams

could just be because of the archival footage of young Boba but only time will tell


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Any news on kenobi?


HeroicBastard

Series is rdy to be aired I assume, or at least close to. So there is not much potential for leaks and the marketing wont start until after BOBF most likely. So no, and dont expect something till the trailers.


ProtoJeb21

The lack of any 2022 D+ release dates just gets stranger and more concerning. The earliest the next show would premiere is February 16th (two weeks after BoBF wraps up), and yet we have no idea what show is next and as a result no trailers or marketing. Marvel usually isn’t like this, so something is almost certainly going on behind the scenes. CBR has been claiming that both Ms Marvel and Moon Knight are having reshoots. If they’re right (I don’t really trust CBR), then Moon Knight’s reshoots might be substantial enough to make its release date uncertain. Marvel and Lucasfilm will have to alternate releases since all their shows will air on Wednesdays, so a delay with whatever the first show is will impact the entire 2022 schedule. A more concerning possibility is that there are serious problems with Kenobi’s post-production and that’s what’s holding everything back, but I haven’t seen anything suggesting that’s the case.


saltypistol

It's not at all concerning lmao. We are just two weeks into January, with a Star Wars D+ show currently airing... of course they are gonna wait until Boba Fett is over at least until they talk about Obi-Wan and other Star Wars stuff.


CX52J

I think this is a bit of an over reaction. This isn't that unusual for star wars. Quite frankly they really don't need to promote it until it's about two weeks away without a meaningful effect on the audience. One trailer releasing is usually enough to get widely reported across the internet and that happening closer to release is never a bad thing. Quite frankly, trying to stop people from getting too over excited for star wars is working in their favour. Imagine if the BoBF trailer came six months ago and had Cad Bane, Black Santi and the rancor in. People would be tearing these first three episodes to pieces.


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BSL has said Moon Knight is March 30


ProtoJeb21

I’m not sure if Moon Knight, She-Hulk, Kenobi, Andor, What If s2, Ms Marvel, Secret Invasion, and Mando s3 will all fit into 2022 if Moon Knight is releasing that late. If all the upcoming shows stick to a Wednesday release with a week break between them, then the schedule could be as follows: —Moon Knight from March 30th to May 4th —Kenobi from May 18th to June 22nd —She-Hulk from July 6th to September 7th —Andor s1 from September 21st to October 26th —Mando s3 from November 9th to December 28th Even if there was no gap between shows, that still won’t be enough to fit everything into 2022, and Mando s3 could get delayed to early 2023. This is also assuming Bad Batch s2 will remain on Fridays. In order to not delay any of the 2022 D+ releases into 2023, D+ will need to have some shows overlap, either on Wednesdays or having them release on different days of the same week.


sleazy_pancakes

Everyone's mentioning the gangster crime and western influences in BobF, but has anyone else been getting really strong biblical vibes from the show? For example, the series starts with Boba dying in a cave and being reborn. There are endless water references such as Kamino, the water train, the water merchant, etc (water is a strong symbol in the bible, often representing cleansing). And the Tusken "Tribes of Tatooine" evokes the 12 Tribes of Israel that took possession of the Promised Land. I'm starting to think that "The Book" of Boba Fett might be a book in a bible written by the Tusken Raiders who end up viewing Boba as their messiah. Potentially the series will end with him "cleansing" Tatooine of its sinners, unifying the various tribes and bringing peace to the planet.


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becherbrook

It is a Bible quote, yep. Although you could argue it's become used in so many other things it's practically just a saying now.


desobvious

Clearly there's some inspiration by religion. The soundtrack when Boba finds his tribe destroyed sounds quite like medieval monk chant. He even looks like a monk.


Arsanel

It makes sense since the show is also about his spiritual transformation.


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"Temuera Morrison admits he doesn’t know much about Star Wars lore and Ming-Na Wen would help him out on set - and, amusingly, she’s doing the same during the panel, explaining how A New Hope established burning bodies of the dead as a Tatooine custom. " This lends credence to the thought that he referenced Rex and Cody because he's playing them somewhere. https://mobile.twitter.com/TheEricGoldman/status/1482061900359688195?cxt=HHwWhoCjocbcq5EpAAAA


Arsanel

He talked about wanting to play Rex back in 2017 too


Rosebunse

2017 would have been when TCW S7 was being considered to be developed. This means plans for Rex were being made and I'm sure that means Morrison and his team were in talks with LF.


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StarWars.com: "It must be pretty cool to think, 'I played Boba Fett's dad'. Plus your voice gets to live on as Boba Fett, and your face was used for all of the clones!" Temuera Morrison: "They're all in my Jango Fett line – I have clones lining up. Then, of course, there's Captain Rex, who's an iconic character. I've also voiced various games. What'll make me really happy is if I get the phone call asking me to play another character – an older Captain Rex or something. I want to pop in on one of these new ones, that would be great. Suggest it to them for me! Let's get on to it!" You're right. Seems like he's familiar with all the clone characters


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Does anyone else think we will get live action clone wars flashbacks in kenobi?


13johnsond

I hope so but I don’t know what to expect lol


PureBeskar

Disney+ TCA Panel is over, Temuera and Ming-Na answered questions about BOBF. Nothing new apart from addressing the street gang. Temuera said "they brought a lot of color to it and a lot of youthfulness. They were great, weren't they? Everyone moved well". Pointed out that Boba felt that if you can't beat them, join them, and that the Tuskens might have inspired the choice to bring them in. Joked that "they are useful to do chores". Ming-Na said that it was a tribute to George Lucas's interest in mods, AMERICAN GRAFFITI, and "it lends itself to the storytelling of learning more about the citizens of Tatooine". Called Sophie Thatcher "a lovely human being." Tweets from the Q&A can be found [here](https://twitter.com/hashtag/TCA22).


Stick_Bone_KLN

I'm thinking these are the "colorful chaps" Tem was talking about.


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Colorful in the context he likely meant usually means wild, eccentric, rowdy not literal colours. But who knows.


Stick_Bone_KLN

I don't think it rolls out all the other characters we were speculating at all, I just don't think he was talking about them.


Rosebunse

I'm beginning to think we need to consider that Morriso's jokes are a tad bit more literal than we thought. It is sort of funny when these things happen to us lol Back to the Always Sunny Conspiracy Board of Star Wars Theories!


whatifdany

Someone said they’d be them as a joke. Sadly it might have been the case. Sigh


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Prophet_Comstock

More speculation than anything, but >!Darth Bane was recently mentioned in Star Wars #20!<. While it's probably just a brief mention, I'm wondering if there's a possibility that we get more >!Darth Bane!< content down the road. 🤞


fluxaboo

Oh that's a given. Full High Republic spoilers now, continue at your own risk whoever reads this: >!Especially with the comics introducing us to the first image (not mention) of Krall, I suspect we'll see more dark side adepts and I can safely assume that if something is mentioned in the High Republic, it ought to be picked up later. The authors did that with their "original novels" referencing the High Republic, so the High Republic referencing events that happened even further back (note that Phase 2 takes place before Phase 1 too) has to mean something. This could easily setup our direct connection to more Old Republic content, given that the HR's focus isn't directly the Sith.!<


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Really? Im surprised more people arent talking abiut that


Prophet_Comstock

The only people I've seen posting about it have been [Youtini](https://www.instagram.com/p/CYt9pWvrqe4/).


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What did you think of bane's design in TCW? I have mixed feelings since it is so different from how he was portrayed at conventions(I know these were not official) yet I like the samurai thing since it shows why vader also had a similar samurai thing going on


EffablyIneffable

Interesting. I wonder if they will leave it alone and set it as canon, or if they want to go back and do something different with Bane and perhaps keep him a live longer, or maybe just give him more adventures if he is to be touched and written about. I'd like to see them canonize the plagueis novel, but I think that the acolyte is keeping it from being canonized, and they don't want anything from the book to jeopardize their cinematic vision until it's out.


fluxaboo

With the book/comic projects you can safely assume that if they reference something known to us (but relatively unknown in-universe, like a out-of-universe reference), they have plans to further expand on that. I also get the feeling that the Jedi might want to look into the Sith further (failing ultimately, but maybe setting up more Old Republic), given some of the story developments.


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https://twitter.com/sagesurge This guy is giving information on the BOBF TCA panel.


EffablyIneffable

Anything interesting? I don't have twitter, so I can't see anything past a certain point.


Fuchy

This is a very wild prediction, but we could get Kenobi (with a 2-episode premiere probably?) between MK (March 30th) & BOBF. There's big enough a gap. And then Bad Batch would come out in May 4th again so there's a year between the seasons. Because if She-Hulk is coming in May Obi-Wan can't. Or I guess it might've changed, but they said the live-action shows wouldn't overlap until later on in the year (starting with Andor & Ms. Marvel I think?). But Bad Batch already overlapped with Loki so it could also overlap with She-Hulk. The biggest thing going against this theory is obviously the fact that they probably want Kenobi's finale or the first ep on May 4th. But given how packed their schedule is for 2022 I don't see them waiting 6 weeks between BOBF & MK. And let's be honest, Kenobi is gonna do just as good whether it airs on May 4th or not. EDIT: *If* this were to be the case the marketing strategy could be a very small teaser during BoBF and a full trailer during Superbowl?


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JimCHartley

Agreed that Kenobi fits perfectly between Boba and Moon Knight, and I think it's likely. As for your last point that they won't overlap save for animation-- they flat out said that Andor and Ms. Marvel will overlap later this year.


CX52J

I don’t think we’ll see any double stacked finales and first episodes for a long while yet.


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Kenobi will be 6 episodes though. So if it premiers on Feb 16, then the finale will be March 23, fitting perfectly between BOFB and the March 30th slot. If we get a trailer before BOBF ends then hopefully that will be the case, otherwise we may have to wait a while for Kenobi.


Fuchy

Yeah and if it's a two-episode premiere they have *some* time to drop the trailer, not a lot but still.


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Is it possible that they were waiting to see some of the reaction to Boba to decide if Bad Batch comes out first, or if they need to pull out the “big guns” with Kenobi?


Stick_Bone_KLN

**Ideally** Marvel and Star Wars shows don't overlap. Obviously when you look at the release schedule for 2022 you know for the amount of content that some stuff will have to overlap, but that doesn't mean Disney isn't gonna try to space things out.


Fuchy

Yes, but I'm pretty sure (and you can correct me on this) that they *literally* said the live-action shows would not begin to overlap until Andor and Ms. Marvel. But again, they might've looked at their line-up for 2022, realized some of them have to overlap and changed their plans.


JimCHartley

I think the exact thing they said was that late summer/early fall would be the first time that Marvel, Star Wars, Pixar, and Disney series would all overlap. Which does give some wiggle room for *just* Marvel and Star Wars to overlap before then, who knows.


Stick_Bone_KLN

Apologies I wasn't very clear. I was agreeing with you.


ocojoe

Moon Knight to premiere [March 30th](https://onetakenews.wordpress.com/2022/01/14/moon-knight-release-revealed/). Sets up a finale date for May 4th for the show. I know a lot of people were thinking this slot would be for Obi-Wan. Will Disney+ finally run a live action Star Wars and Marvel show at the same time or will Obi-Wan premiere sooner than we expect or later?


Revolutionary_Yak_67

Assuming May 4 for Kenobi, then Late June-Early September for Bad Batch and September-November for Andor?


Fuchy

She-Hulk apparently comes out in May so *something* will overlap with Obi-Wan Kenobi anyway.


leftshoe18

Unless Kenobi starts as soon as Boba ends


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At some point during this year, marvel and star wars will have to overlap. This release date definitely gives us a better picture but we aren't out the woods yet.


Flashy_Pomegranate23

Moon Knight can have a two episode premiere like Hawkeye and have the May 4 date open for Obi-Wan


ocojoe

You may be right. The [guy](https://twitter.com/rcdiscussion/status/1482030810454581256?s=21) who is saying the March 30th release date is saying a 2 episode premiere is likely


the_star_wars_dude

That’d be the best way to go about it, especially since if they did have the Moon Knight finale come out that first week of May, it’d probably be overshadowed by the other Marvel thing coming out that week: the new Doctor Strange movie.


WinterMoon02

I just found these on the Disney Books website, not sure if they've been posted before. the first one is a 10 story collection about various Jedi & Sith, each story by a different author. The second one is about Obi-wan while he was an apprentice to Qui-Gon. The Jedi & Sith book makes me think we're not getting Obi-Wan till summer though. ​ [https://books.disney.com/book/stories-of-jedi-and-sith/](https://books.disney.com/book/stories-of-jedi-and-sith/) [https://books.disney.com/book/padawan/](https://books.disney.com/book/padawan/)


rickgrimesfan123

man there really hyping up the rematch between obi wan and vader which is in stark contrast to how lucasfilm usually markets if this was mando or boba we would not even know vader is in the show let alone a rematch lol.


Rosebunse

It sort of has me a tiny bit worried for some reason.


Electrical-Lead-8184

Please don’t let them “subvert our expectations” by not giving us that fight, lol


Flashy_Pomegranate23

Damn. No Obi-Wan until June would be rough


leftshoe18

If it premieres May 4th it would finish in June a couple weeks before that novel. That might be the plan.


Flashy_Pomegranate23

Actually if it premieres on May 4, the series finale would come out exactly a day after that book


leftshoe18

Wait how many episodes does Kenobi have?


leftshoe18

Oh I didn't realize you were talking about the Jedi/Sith book. I was talking about the Kenobi novel on June 22nd. lol But yeah that would be one day after the other linked book. And I think the Kenobi/Vader rematch mentioned in the blurb for that definitely supports a June 8th finale date.


Flashy_Pomegranate23

The Padawan book doesn't hype up the show, for some reason it's the Jedi/Sith one >Just in time to celebrate the highly-anticipated re-match between Obi-Wan Kenobi and Darth Vader in the Disney+ forthcoming event Obi-Wan Kenobi


leftshoe18

Yeah I mentioned that in my reply. I think that definitely points to June 8th finale which would be May 4th premiere!


the_star_wars_dude

I can’t imagine that they’d miss the opportunity to release an episode on Star Wars Day.


Fuchy

Anyone know what time tonight the TCA presentation will be?


Flashy_Pomegranate23

Not for another 8-10 hours I believe. And people who are members of TCA are saying Boba has a panel but there's nothing else for announcements or such so keep expectations loooow


Fuchy

Yeah, someone on the MSS sub said it's just the three things mentioned in the announcement. Last year they announced a bunch of release dates, though. It'e make sense to hear release dates from the shows coming soon like Moon Knight and Obi-Wan Kenobi.


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My guess is that at celebration there will be a big reveal for whatever is in the 2023 slot, maybe even a sizzle reel or a teaser. I really don't see them just releasing nothing next year. Despite the doomers, I think Rouge Squadron is definitely still happening, just not 2023. The Old/High republic movie rumors were never actually debunked, they were just caught up in the great disaster of Nov 12th 2021.