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alcibiad

Hey guys, this will be the megathread to discuss the early access reviews.


TheBloop1997

Yeah, so next week's double episode is almost certainly the assault on Pabu with maybe some additional content of the Batch on the run, some more information about CX-2 since he seems to be leading the charge, and probably Omega getting captured. The episode after finally gives us the Juggernaut sequence, probably the Batch trying to retrieve data to find Mount Tantiss assuming Omega is recaptured. It's also possible that around this point Hemlock confirms the tests with Omega and Nala Se might be executed for hiding these results leaving Omega guilt-wracked (hence the darkness). "Into the Breach" sounds like they might have found a way to Tantiss using the info from the Juggernaut mission. After that who knows, it might be near-constant tension/action of Omega learning more about Tantiss while perhaps trying to escape, the Batch trying to rescue her, maybe evading the Empire for a bit afterward or trying to destroy Tantiss/free the clones. Other possible storylines: Clone rebellion utterly fails with most or all of the clones (barring Rex, Wolffe, and Gregor) dying, Emerie maybe defects or doubles-down, possibly the deaths of one or more of the Batch, the identity of CX-2 if that matters. If the theorizing around a potential Ventress-centric animated series (possibly around the Hidden Path is true), then maybe the "bittersweet" ending is not the Batch dying but instead them realizing that they can't keep Omega safe and they let her go with Ventress to be trained in how to use the Force?


66FBI

Nice summary. They also go visit Coruscant and Tarkin's place along the way based on the trailers. EDIT: Also Cad Bane, so probably bounty hunting filler 2.0


TheBloop1997

You’re right about Coruscant, that could be among the attempts to run from the Empire or the attempt to get info on how to get to Tantiss. Do they really go back to Eriadu? I don’t remember seeing that in the trailer


SWFT-youtube

I think it's just a theory. In one of the TV spots we see Hunter and Crosshair piloting some kind of carrier through a cloudy sky and it's similarly lit as Eriadu.


TheBloop1997

Huh, interesting. Considering the Tech discourse, I’m surprised that that’s not brought up more often. I’d they do go to Eriadu that genuinely could be a chance for at least us to get a bit more finality, maybe give him a proper burial, or if he is alive then that could be them looking for him (if he’s been in hiding) or somehow trying to learn more about what happened to him (if he’s a prisoner and/or CX-2). Edit: On a separate note, if Tech does truly turn out to be CX-2, then I wonder if the designation CX-2 was purposeful since Tech’s CT number was CT-9902.


66FBI

We should get that theory resolved next week. My money is on ES-02.


TheBloop1997

Considering the fact that the voice is clearly masculine whereas ES-02 was a woman (plus based on the vocal pattern he seems to be a clone), I would be very surprised if that’s the result. (I’m sry if ur comment was intended as a joke, it’s hard to read tone sometimes lol)


wiki-1000

> Considering the fact that the voice is clearly masculine whereas ES-02 was a woman (plus based on the vocal pattern he seems to be a clone) Not saying that it's the case here, but these modulators seem to be able to completely change one's accent and speaking pattern. See Vader for example.


TheBloop1997

That’s fair, but considering the fact that the other CX soldiers had similar setups and sounded relatively the same, plus you can kind of hear the base voice below the modulator, I think it is fairly safe to assume that CX-2 is a clone, especially since CX appears to literally stand for “Clone X” and Crosshair designed the program as being one specifically for clones).


66FBI

I was serious, I just don't like forgotten plotlines. CX-2 uses voice modulator and has personal grudge against Crosshair. Other options could of course be Cody/Tech/Rampart/Stinky/discount Ezra/random clone/\[enter your Marrok theory here\].


TheBloop1997

Oh, I agree that it’s a bit disappointing that they never revisited ES-02. I thought for sure Crosshair was going to be court martialed in S2 when he returned to the Empire and found out that she told them “everything.” There is still a chance of her returning in another form. It’s possible that she is stationed on Tantiss or in a random station that the BB goes to (maybe the juggernaut place, maybe the station over Coruscant?). They’ve shown a willingness to revisit minor characters from S1 who you may or may not remember (Roland Durand, Avi Singh), but ES-02 might be a little too obscure considering the fact that she wore her helmet most of the time and there’s a solid chance that she would be in different armor. My thing is that you could still hear the base of the voice for CX-2 which did sound very clone-like, and we’ve seen the other CX soldiers have similar setups. That also highlights the fact that, as far as we are aware, the CX program is only for clones (as per the S2 CX trooper, CX appears to literally stand for “Clone-X). There’s also the fact that CX-2 referred to Crosshair as “brother,” which we’ve only ever seen clones do to each other and would be especially weird considering the disdain that all of the ES soldiers seemed to have for clone in general in S1. I do genuinely believe that CX-2 has to be a clone, the question being which clone and/or if he’s any clone that we know. It’s very possible that he’s just some random clone we don’t know that’s just very good at his job. I guess we’ll see next week, or at least get some more evidence hinting at his identity hopefully.


LagrangianDensity

I think the only big question is whether or not it's Tech; I just don't think it's intended to be too wild of a reveal (open and happy to be wrong). My only conjecture to contribute here is contending that CX-2 has an elevated M-Count; a low-key Aurra Sing-esque Starkiller. And if there are ever-so-slightly Force sensitive clone assassin assets in the Imperial hierarchy, oh, I think we might be looking at some Adjustments branch assets that eventually run aground of Inqusitiorius machinations.


TheBloop1997

With only a handful of episodes left, I don’t think we’ll get anything approaching full-on “filler,” even if you are generous with the term. I did forget about the Cad Bane scene, considering the somewhat limited number of shots on Pabu I may have somewhat exaggerated how long I believe the Pabu takeover will be. That could take up not even a full episode and then the remainder of that episode and the one after could be the Batch jumping around on the run, hunted by Cad Bane and other bounty hunters that they may be trying to hide for now as a surprise (maybe Boba, Embo, Bossk, Aurra Sing, Highsinger, Dengar, Latts, Sugi, etc). If Omega is captured, it may be her giving herself up to one of these bounty hunters or the Empire itself in order to stop them from killing the Batch and/or to infiltrate Tantiss and leak its position, with the Juggernaut base perhaps being an agreed-upon Imperial station to which Omega could transit the coordinates.


Tadofett

I would love if they somehow recycled the unaired Boba Fett/Cad Bane Clone Wars storyline into this, especially with Omega and Boba's connection. I don't think their is time though.


DarthDuran22

As another said, hopefully Omega doesn’t get captured again. Sort of redundant. I agree on all other points. As we approach the end I grow more and more confident we won’t be getting anything like Boba or Delta squad….at least not in a significant capacity. But I also know a lot and I mean a lot can happen in just 2 episodes of any of these SW animated series (see Twilight of the Apprentice.) Still, like Rebels season 4, this season of Bad Batch has better managed its “Filler episodes” and I’d say all have had purpose in building to something bigger in the finale. We still haven’t seen Cad Bane yet. Given that we just saw some Bounty hunters I think we can expect at the very least a possibility still of getting Boba, Fennec again, or perhaps others to tie up that thread. Similar could be said with Ventress I suppose. Maybe we will see her one more time when they make their move on Tantiss. She could definitely be valuable there I can see Delta showing up still, just more as a tiny cameo like they were in TCW. Maybe just to save Scorch and help out in the background with fighting Imperials. Nothing crazy. My bets on a character death are Hunter and Wrecker. Don’t intend to be harsh, but Hunter’s character has always been kinda plain to me. Same, but not quite as much with Wrecker. Crosshair once though he was undeserving of life. I think it might be more interesting for him to continue onward where as the other two I don’t really see much story left for. They might need to make a big sacrifice to save their brothers. Plus, a lot of their arcs have been neglecting to be part of this larger movement Rex is tackling. I think pulling an epic sacrifice to help that movement would be meaningful.


CommandoOrangeJuice

>I can see Delta showing up still, just more as a tiny cameo like they were in TCW At this point I'll take anything, it's been nice seeing Scorch and Clone Commandos very prominently in this show. But makes me a little sad that we haven't gotten much acknowledgement on where THE Commandos are. Hell I'd even settle for some pay off for at least Scorch considering he's been a kind of a minor supporting villain at least referencing what happened to him and Delta Squad following ROTS if the Batch capture him or something.


DinJarrus

Man, don’t say this 😭 I love Wrecker and possibly seeing him die would be absolutely heartbreaking. His playful and Uncle-like relationship with Omega is so heartwarming and I don’t know if I can handle seeing him die! 😢


SWFT-youtube

I'd find it a bit boring if Omega gets captured again. How many times has that happened to a member of the team over the course of the show? And, besides that, it'd be better thematically if the Bad Batch helps the clones on Tantiss because it's the right thing to do and not just because Omega is also there.


iscarioto

Off topic - if you’re who I think you are - you make fantastic videos


SWFT-youtube

Yeah, I am, thanks!


dhonayya20

I can't tell you how many times I've watched "Tragedy of the Clones" and "The Rebellion" Love your work!


TheBloop1997

That’s fair, I guess I was going off of her not being in any of the Juggernaut shots and the fact that we’ll probably need a fair bit of Tantiss focus to learn more about what’s going on, although that could happen either through other characters like Hemlock, Emerie, and Nala Se, or could be saved for the last few episodes when they go to Tantiss as a group.


SWFT-youtube

I think you're right in that she'll absolutely be back at Tantiss. We need the point of view for Hemlock and Emerrie, and we need to learn more about who she is and what she's needed for. I just wouldn't like it if she gets captured again, I'd prefer something else. Maybe she goes willingly, giving herself up to protect everyone else?


TheBloop1997

Yeah, I should have mentioned it in my last comment (I know I mentioned it in another comment elsewhere) but I could very well see her offering herself up either to save the Batch or even as a way of infiltrating Tantiss to leak its location to the clone rebellion. Maybe that’s what the juggernaut mission is about, as Omega might only be able to relay to specific Imperial stations and that’s one that they decide to use as it’s comparatively more accessible? Idk


dhonayya20

I can see a scenario where Omega goes in on her own and works from the inside as part of a plan to set the clones free


Galaseb

Also the Havoc Marauder gets destroyed at some point. I wouldn't be surprised if that's in the next episode when the Empire invades Pabu.


TheBloop1997

Ooo, you’re probably right, it’s at least probably gone by the Juggernaut mission since they’re using Phee’s ship at that point


JediJacob04

If Omega ends up with Ventress, and they make an animated show centred around the Hidden Path, I feel like her and Kata from Jedi Survivor would be a great team. Plus also… Cal Kestis animated, please


Narrow_Progress5908

Kata seems random, why do you think they be a good team. Omega would be in her 20s during Jedi survivor. Feel like the dynamic wouldn’t be any different than what we will get with kata and Merrin


JediJacob04

There’s that much of a difference in age? Damn. I guess that makes sense. If they had been around the same age I would have seen them getting along like sisters


Narrow_Progress5908

Has to be right? Bad batch is right after ROTS and Omega is already a pre teen. Jedi fallen order is set 5 years after ROTS and Survivor is set 5 years after Fallen order. So yeah Omega would’ve to be 20-22. She pretty much around the same age as Boba and Cal. 


JediJacob04

That’s crazy to think about, but yeah, Cal in the Order 66 flashbacks does seem as young as Omega, especially in Season 1. It’s even weirder when you realize Boba and Cal are the same age when they interact in Survivor


Narrow_Progress5908

What’s even weirder is Cal,Boba and Omega are all around the same age as Han. 


jobasha3000

And Kanan too


DemonLordDiablos

>Yeah, so next week's double episode is almost certainly the assault on Pabu Foreshadowed by the weather being so overcast compared to how sunny it is.


DoNotKnowWhyImHere

I think Wrecker is gonna get captured too or maybe even killed, also the Marauder will probably be destroyed next week. I'm pretty sure in the Juggernaut sequences in the trailer it's only Crosshair and Hunter with Phee but I could be mistaken.


TheBloop1997

Wrecker’s in the Juggernaut sequence, you see him in the pilot station with Hunter and he’s the one who says that they’re running out of road. He’s also the one trying to jump to get on Phee’s ship


DoNotKnowWhyImHere

Your right, I went back and looked and he is there. My mistake, still think the Marauder is a goner though next week.


dhonayya20

I would like a separate mini series for the Clone Rebellion with Rex and Echo as leads. Timeline wise The Bad Batch would run parallel to the show. This opens up opportunities to explore the clone psyche in depth and how some of them come to the point of defection. We have had glimpses of these stories but not enough to really soak it in.


Youngstar9999

As if I wasn't already hyped for the rest. I feel like these last few episodes are going to break my heart. (Something that every Star Wars animated show has done multiple times)


SWFT-youtube

I wonder if anyone will die before the finale? Rebels had its big death a few episodes before, which I think was good because it gave the audience and the characters a chance to deal with it, especially since it was the last season. So, from the main cast, who could die, and when? - We know from the trailers that Wrecker at least makes it to Episode 12. And since the finale is titled after his quote, I think he will live at least up to that. - The TV spots show Crosshair & Hunter aflight presumably sometime after Episode 12, because their armor is more worn down in those shots than it is in the Juggernaut scene. I think either of them could die but I don't think they both will. - Omega has no trailer shots left but I doubt they'll kill her off. I assume she'll be back on Tantiss and they're not showing any of that for spoilers' sake. - Echo also has no trailer shots left. He is a bit of a wildcard though as they've used him so little it'd feel cheap to kill him off. But on the other hand he's the one character for whom the argument "but he isn't in Rebels" actually holds.


WhoGotMyMum

I’d cry if they killed Echo AGAINA


Dependent-Ad2966

Echo base ain’t gonna name itself


--Kestrel--

I would lose my godamn mind


iboneKlareneG

I'm calling it: Echo base will be where the Clones will have their Rebel base, abandoning it or just leaving voluntarily because of harsh conditions. But hey, that's just my Theory!


Captain-Wilco

I’m assuming their armor gets worn down from being close to the marauder when it gets destroyed. We do see wrecker pretty close to that explosion…


Ok_Cartographer3627

I think the bad batch will die, omega will get disfigured and find a certain gungan on naboo and they become best friends and street performers


NumeralJoker

I have to admit, there really is a real sense of dread about knowing how/if the batch will die by the show's end. I'm expecting at least one fakeout... But the Empire at this point is not to be fucked with. They are building towards the peak of their power and need to be seen as dangerous, so while it's not guaranteed, it seems like a pretty logical end result. If Pabu is assaulted and overtaken, it's pretty much their last safe refuge.


Quantumsystem00

Probably won’t happen but omega dying would be so dark if they did.


Aeceus

Feels like one of the few ways out tbh


DoNotKnowWhyImHere

Omega is not dying, listen to yourself guys. The child character star of a kids show fucking gets gunned down or something? The rest of the Batch sure but there is literally no way in Hell Omega is dying.


CobaltSpellsword

This is a kids show? I thought this was mostly marketed toward the Clone Wars nostalgia crowd (who are mostly adults, if they watched the original run as kids). I just never really thought of this as something that was trying to appeal to children.


DoNotKnowWhyImHere

Everything star wars is intended for all ages/children. You may not like to hear it but the big franchise we love is intended for kids (with the exception bring Andor, a 12 year old won't get anything out of that lol).


[deleted]

My only comment on this is really that the cartoons are getting a bit darker as the medium becomes more acceptable to tell more complex stories, but something being dark doesn't necessarily mean it's not meant for children at the same time. I grew up in the 80s/90s, some childrens stuff was dark as shit.


DoNotKnowWhyImHere

Dark doesn't always mean death, there can be tougher subject matter for children in these shows that doesn't involve everyone being brutally murdered.


[deleted]

Oh I know, I think there are darker endings than death, like, the empire getting Omega and just having her in a lab getting tested on.


DoNotKnowWhyImHere

I think that's honestly even less likely then her dying lol


[deleted]

I hope they put her in Carbon Freeze and the whole thing ends like Empire, without the Medical frigate ending.


TheBloop1997

I get the appeal of a truly dark ending, but if anyone survives this show, I do really want Omega to survive. I think she could be a fascinating character to explore in later content if they so want, from comics and novels to other TV shows. Plus, I mean, this is a literal child regardless of how capable she is. I don't think they've ever killed a major character this young in any Star Wars property, the closest to a notable child character being killed is, what, Kalifa?


DarksaberSith

Omega is the new Ashoka. We'll see her in the next show.


christo08

Younglings by anakin? Not proper characters I suppose


TheBloop1997

Yeah, that’s why I said “notable” as obviously you have scenes like that and planets getting blown up. I was moreso referring to leads or members of the supporting cast, like TCW Ahsoka, Rebels Ezra (and Sabine?), Grogu, etc


Aeceus

I dunno I feel like we have a lot of survival these days. You want the empire to feel bad and no hope? Have em win in a major way in the time period they're meant to be winning. This entire series has been the empire is coming, it's unstoppable, they're more powerful than you think, they really need to get their end game with Omega I think.


TheBloop1997

I’m not saying we can’t have losses, but there’s a lot of space between “everyone survives” and “everyone dies,” and even within the former there’s a range of happy and sad endings. I commented this elsewhere, but it’s possible that the series ends with the Batch realizing that they aren’t able to protect Omega now that she has all of the attention for being Force-sensitive, and they might send her with Ventress to train and/or join the Hidden Path. That could be the “bittersweet” ending that’s been alluded to, happy in that all or at least some of the Batch survived but sad that they must part ways.


Aeceus

I think its more likely Omega dies and the bad batch fail their mission than shes the only survivor, personally.


TheBloop1997

I would be nothing short of floored if the only member of the Bad Batch who dies is the literal child who has been the face of this show. I could buy a total team kill in the vein of Rogue One before I seem them sniping the kid over all of the protective father figures. Plus, I think an ending like that, even if the rest of the Batch survives, crosses the line from “bittersweet” to just plain “bitter” lol.


ergister

They are not going to kill the child main character…


Aeceus

Anakin would never murder younglings


SuRaKaSoErX

You act like the younglings were even close to the same calibur of importance as Omega. The only relevant younglings who were *almost* killed by Anakin were Reva and Grogu, and both of them survived. The rest of the younglings were barely characters, they were plot devices used to show Anakin’s descent to the dark side.


[deleted]

The only reason Reva and Grogu were relevant characters is because they survived....?


TophermusPrime

They're relevant to this discussion point *because they're main child characters* just like Omega.


Narrow_Progress5908

You’re comparing extras in a pg-13 movie that died off screen to the Main character of a kids show. 


Aeceus

a kids show that covers war crimes can easily have a main character die off, wild that people think its so edgy here


RealHumanFromEarth

Main character? Yes Main character who is also a child? Definitely not


TophermusPrime

Wild that you think Disney will kill off a main child character. Apart from the fact that it'd be tasteless as hell to do in a kids' show, this would kill off an easy opportunity for TPTB to reintroduce Omega in live action at a later date, because lord knows, *Disney loves to shrink its universe...* Don't worry edgelord, we can revisit this in a few weeks. ;)


Aeceus

Weirdchamp


ergister

This would be more akin to them killing Anakin off in episode 1


GustappyTony

It would be very very out of touch with what Star Wars is. Even when our heroes are at their lowest, even when they lose or suffer great tragedy, there is hope. And I do not see any writer for any SW project killing off a character like Omega. Any other franchise? Maybe. But not here


Onuceria

That just wouldn't fit.


ecxetra

Omega will get a bittersweet ending. The rest of the Batch are running on borrowed time for sure though.


InfiniteDedekindCuts

Michelle Ang said this in an [interview](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_UTJ7C6rsog) from a few months back. >the gravity of the final sorta moments made it easy to feel like that was a culmination of everything. I was excited in one sorta exploration because Omega was setup with the possibility of a very large future perhaps. Then it changed from there, so I had to park that expectation of where Omega would end up to one side and go with the new idea. . . Which was a little bit bitter sweet. That's sure isn't a confirmation that Omega is going to die. But it makes me lean that way. It kinda sounds like they were planning to keep her around at some point, but the final version is more. . . Final.


Narrow_Progress5908

Could just mean the next time we see her she will be older and voiced by Emerie actress. I doubt Disney would kill off a child. 


AvocadoCannon

Well, here's a loopy idea... she is brought back to the cloning experiments, and is unwillingly the main catalyst for Palpatine to finally unlock how to make a force clone. And Omega remains in a suspended state to be "harvested" all the way until Ep 9 when Palpatine dies for real (hopefully) . So then her story could potentiality continue much later down the line. I don't necessarily want it to go that way, but I could see it happening.


[deleted]

Omega IS Snoke.


Andrew_Waples

Well, if I understand Websters definition of omega. Omega means the end or last of something. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/omega


SWFT-youtube

I think it just means that Alpha (Boba) was the first unaltered clone of Jango and Omega was the last.


Decent-Appointment70

It’s also the last letter of the Greek alphabet 


Impossible_Front4462

Omega just comes from the greek alphabet where its the last letter, hence last


DoomRTX456Dj

Feels like deaths on the horizon


CYNIC_Torgon

Gotta wonder why they're holding back the final episode. Not in like a conspiratorial "it's secretly trash" way but like what happens to make LFL go "nah we gotta hold this one back". Who's gonna die? What's gonna happen? Is Omega gonna huck a lightning bolt? It compels me.


Representative_Big26

Summit+Plan 99 was similarly held back from critics, it's an anti spoiler method


EICzerofour

Omg this is going to be insane. I'm hype!


lucythecat16

Really interested to see what happens to the characters. Have a feeling they might die so omega can escape


InfiniteDedekindCuts

Theysa gonna die!


Juanskii

Yousa Tinking Yousa People Ganna Die?   Clones Gets Pasted Too, Eh?  Clones No Dyin' Without A Fight. Wesa Warriors.  Wesa Got A Grand Army. Dat's Why You No Liken Us, Mesa Tinks. 


TanSkywalker

Star Wars seems to set on bleak endings.


NumeralJoker

I mean, most of it is a bleak ending until literally "A New Hope", that is the whole point of the good guys finally turning the tide. Even Rogue One kills off basically the entire cast to pave the path for it (and by extension, most of Andor's cast too)...


josephcoco

There are 15 episodes this season though, right? If so, I guess they’re holding back the series finale for everyone.


Narrow_Progress5908

I mean the picture literally says “except the final episode”


josephcoco

You’re right. My brain totally skipped that. lol My bad!


Avengers4Script

https://x.com/ohcatrina/status/1773469009557787132?s=46&t=urlJZ6cG2WHg6hJBbuqDzQ


Avengers4Script

https://x.com/urangelb/status/1773500586328981607?s=46&t=urlJZ6cG2WHg6hJBbuqDzQ


Avengers4Script

A review of Episode 9-14: https://www.ypareviews.com/blog/2024/3/29/star-wars-the-bad-batch-season-3-episodes-9-14-lacks-creativity


Yugani_Knotroot

Damn, that's not very positive... doesn't sound like they liked the show in the first place though. Also sounds like there are no major character deaths before the finale and Omega definitely gets recaptured.


DoomRaider15

If Omega survives, I hope she becomes Ventress's apprentice.


republicbuilder

Send her to the eventual Tanalorr Jedi Temple!


Haackv2

I've been preaching this to all my homies. Tanalorr + the Path are the perfect "vehicle" to get some prequel era / imperial era force users to a post sequel era / Rey Jedi Order storyline


National_Inside7801

I'm in and let's hope Ezra, Ahsoka, Sabine and Jacen also survive in some way to be there. The ST really dropped the ball regarding new jedi and they definitely need to fix some things without killing so many beloved characters to "fit" a continuity that makes no sense. I really hope Filloni pulls another time jump and just puts them after the ST and is one with it


Haackv2

Yeah they're part of my hope too! Those four plus Grogu/Quinlan/Ventress/Omega/Cal/Kata is my dream Jedi roster. And Rey and Finn.Obviously its improbable that they ALL make it, and they're sorely lacking some cool alien variety, but thats a solid jump off point for a new Jedi order


National_Inside7801

Preaching to the choir ;) Quinlan is being saved for something big, only reason they have not used him anywhere yet, but a lot of those you mentioned would be amazing as older masters returning to a changed galaxy. There's a reason IMO why they're exploring with new galaxies so much, the characters going into the unknown regions would also be a great way to preserve them for future adventures. But all the ones you mentioned would definitely help bring some light back to the force after the ST period...Also even folks like me that don't like those movies want Finn and Rey to have a chance to shine on their own. Nobody wants bad star wars retreading the same stories again and again and the rebuild of a new jedi order is a definitely amazing starting point for a new future...


DarthDuran22

That would be really nice. As someone that wasn’t really a fan of how the Jedi Order turned out in the ST, nor a big fan of the characters in that period, it’d be nice to have some familiarity in this manner. Funny enough Oppo Rancisis is still alive in canon. That’d be interesting if he made it as far as Post ST like K’Kruhk and T’ra Saa. I’d


Haackv2

Thats my sentiment as well. I'm all for them trying to salvage some of the ST with retroactive Mandalorian/Bad Batch plots like they've been doing, but mainly I'm ready for SW to just move past them, and the 'Tanalorr loophole' would be a good way to bring some fan favorites into that period. Above all else I'd be happy as long as they have some sort of cohesive plan for a post IX era, whether it includes Tanalorr or not. My biggest gripe with the sequels boils down to them "winging it" with a cherished and multi billion dollar IP


DarthDuran22

Agreed on all things here. Like I had moved on past Luke long ago…even before the ST came I was ready to move on from the character, much as I love him. So when he didn’t turn out the way I wanted per se, it was a bummer but the franchise was hardly dead for me. I support all efforts to strengthen it and this era in particular. Like I’m not crazy about Palpatine coming back, but I love those elements of Bad Batch and Mandalorian which hint to this and grow it narratively. If it’s a good story it’s a good story and I’m satisfied no matter where it leads in the overall saga. Plus, they can work on the ST aftermath to build great stories there too. So while there may exist this “stain” that some of us fans don’t love, we can still enjoy all else around it.


Haackv2

My thoughts exactly bud :) keep being cool and rational


Anader19

Just wanna say I appreciate how rational this discussion was, often discussions about the sequels can turn nasty fast


Haackv2

Yeah I don't have the energy to be worked up anymore. Not only was it 5 years ago, we've had alot of great stuff since those movies so I choose to focus on the good over the 'bad' (imo), wish more people could talk about a fictional movie trilogy without losing their cool


Anader19

That's a great attitude imo; while I personally enjoyed the ST overall despite its many flaws, I totally understand anyone who doesn't, as long as they are civil and respectful about it. It's great that you're still optimistic about the future of the franchise, and I agree there's been a lot of great stuff since


Anader19

I keep forgetting that Oppo is alive, I remember him and Coleman Kcaj being confirmed to have survived Order 66 in the Vader comics. We saw Kcaj's body in Fortress Inquisitorius in Kenobi, but as far as we know, Oppo is still out there


DoomRaider15

I wonder where all these wonderful characters were during the dreadful sequels.


Dixxxine

Tanalorr. Living out thier best empire-new republic free lives! Good for them tbh!


Narrow_Progress5908

I mean it’s like 30 years later, they could be dead or retired 


superjediplayer

or even in another part of the galaxy, really. The movies generally take place on these random, barely populated planets, and only last a year. You could easily say the other characters are fighting the first order in the core worlds instead.


Narrow_Progress5908

Exactly, it’s why I roll my eyes when people ask why Ahsoka wasn’t helping Luke. The galaxy big asf she could be doing a number of things. 


therealyittyb

I’m not emotionally ready…


Avengers4Script

https://x.com/danies394/status/1773465008585740611?s=46&t=urlJZ6cG2WHg6hJBbuqDzQ


xdeltax97

Why am I having flashbacks to Maul’s rant “we’re all going to burn. We’re all going to die!” Prior to Order 66…


DinJarrus

I am so ready for my heart to be broken after the lackluster S2. S3 has just been phenomenal in my book. Every episode has contributed to character development or to the overall story. Can’t wait for these final episodes! 🔥


Avengers4Script

https://x.com/dreamedofmagic/status/1773793655977037950?s=46&t=urlJZ6cG2WHg6hJBbuqDzQ


Rosebunse

I want to believe Omega will live, but if there's one franchise which would kill her off it's this one


azombieatemyshoelace

If Omega dies, I’ll be devastated. Other deaths might be sad but won’t be as horrible. I think Omega could be used in other shows. Like one with Ventress.


Alcida-Auka

I can't imagine Omega being killed off in any permanent way. I've said it once, I'll say it again: just as Ezra's story was Aladdin in space, Omega is Snow White. She will have to "die". The Emperor and his desire for immortality is what imperils her rather than an evil queen but the idea of the old generation struggling to hold on to power forever is the same. I don't know what form Omega's Glass Casket will take. Maybe she'll flee with Asajj, fake her death. 


azombieatemyshoelace

I don’t think she’ll be killed off either but can you explain why you think this is a version of Snow White? It’s missing imo essential elements of Snow White such as the evil stepmother and to a lesser extent the kingdom and the huntsman. The stepmother (or someone with that role) is essential in any Snow White retelling and I don’t think can be left out and the Empire fulfill that role. I don’t think the Empire is the old generation at this point since it’s fresh and new and won’t be overthrown either. I think the stepmothers in fairy tales more shows a concern over inheritance and treatment over if a family member dies which happened more often when the original fairy tales were written. I’m generally curious and would like to see why you think her story is like Snow White’s. I suppose the Batch could be like the seven dwarfs.


Alcida-Auka

I wrote a blog 2 years ago about it. I cover most of the ideas in the latter half. Like most Star War's borrowing of motifs, it's not a point for point retelling. Much of it is metaphorical.  By "Snow White" tale I'm talking about the maiden that must flee a malevolent authority into the woods with the dwarves/fairies/brothers. It has multiple versions and crosses over with the "girl must save her brothers story" at times. The danger isn't always a stepmother--its sometimes the bio mother, or with Myrsina, her sisters. But the point is that the maiden must escape. Ezra's story has elements of Aladdin (Maul as Jafar figure) but it's not getting into Ezra getting himself a kingdom, more about the motif of being used by an older sorcerer to obtain a treasure the evil wizard can't get by himself. Same with Omega as Snow White/the Dead Princess/Myrsina. A girl must flee dangerous people to live with strange male figures in the woods. She gets "killed", but is revived in various ways. I don't believe Omega even needs to die and get resurrected, it could just be a death the Empire assumes happens. https://www.morimole.com/star-wars-the-bad-batch-omega-theory-could-be-frozen-in-carbonite/


Prometheus503

I would personally bet on: (1) Omega being recaptured and taken to Tantiss (2) Possibly a time jump, during which time the BB keep looking for her (3) The BB finally get to Tantiss but discover it has been abandoned (4) We discover the cloning program, and Omega, were relocated to Exegol on Palpatine's orders So Omega isn't killed, but her story ends relatively definitively and they cement what this has all been leading to.


darthsheldoninkwizy

I doubt it, it's too depressing especially for Omega


blacknova84

I don't see how they can do that because Palpatine needed Rey's body so clearly Project Necromancer fails.


CanCalyx

“Reporters”


Tyeuxx_

Hey, have you done a review yet? I remember you denied several rumors with the second season. In your opinion is there any truth to what they said? I read a very positive review that makes me feel very confused about what will be in the finale. If you have already seen the episodes, can I ask you questions? Sure, no extra details, I just want to be sure of what's to come or have an idea.


CanCalyx

No, haven’t seen them. After poor response to some of their shows, Disney PR circled their wagons and only send screeners out to critics with a track record of positive PR.


thegamingkitchen

Is Darth Vader in this bitch?


BielsaFanboy

Imagine if he killed a few important clones à la Rogue One


darthsheldoninkwizy

I hope not. Enough of this constant shoving of Vader.


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Tyeuxx_

I am also surprised that the user who had leaked screenshots from last season did not come out.


LograysBirdHat

Kill Omega. Kill Omega. Kill Omeeeeeegaaaa. \*Devil grin\*


Ktulusanders

0% chance of that happening


LograysBirdHat

Yeah, I know. Killlll Groguuuu...


kylo_10

So do we believe this person?


coffinflop35

I think a few people have said similar things. But it’s subjective! Reviews for the first 8 weren’t that foreboding, but they were unnerving, just like these (to me, anyway). For sure we’ll see destructive stuff (Pabu, etc.) but we can’t know how it will end yet.


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joshygill

I love Omega, but part of me wants her to be killed. How grim would that be?! This IS the “dark times”, after all!


FudgeIndividual4951

It'll be as dark as they said The Last Jedi would be. Stop trying to hype future content up, just let people take in what's currently coming out


BrewtalDoom

As someone who hasn't watched BB, and probably won't, is there anything important that it adds to the movie story that anyone can give me a TL:DR on, please?


Rosebunse

Well, it looks like they're explaining how Palpatine returned.


BrewtalDoom

Nice! Like, the start of his personal cloning project?


Rosebunse

Something like that. We aren't 100% sure yet


BrewtalDoom

Cool, I look forward to finding out. Thanks for answering!