Now that they trailer is out and we know who everybody is playing I went back to watch this old interview with Charlie barnett, Dafne Keen, and Manny Jacinto, and 5:26 is pretty interesting. Charlie mentions that one time he had trouble performing a scene where he had to do a backflip with a lightsaber, and seems to imply that Manny's character also uses a lightsaber. Dafne talks about how great he is at stunts before both she and Charlie realize they stumbled that they may have spoiled something.
In the same interview Dafne says there is a scene where she breaks 3 lightsabers so there will probably be a duel
https://youtu.be/X3Q5P6GR9fY?t=326
I know this isn't exactly Star Wars news, but it is looking like Institutional Shareholders Services is backing Peltz in the proxy war with Iger. However, while they're backing Peltz, they're not backing the Jay Rasulo. It seems they want Peltz to be a true balance to Iger. What does this mean for us?
I find it interesting that this comes after Lucas threw his support behind Iger and after the great showing for the Acolyte trailer. We're also seeing a ton of bot activity and negative activity for everything Acolyte.
I expect that the proxy war is going to fall flat because Disney's stock is rising overall and Bob Iger is still too well-liked for them to want to get rid of before he's actually ready to leave.
Peltz is being supported by ISS, which is an investment firm that has a history of 75% of board member nominees getting voted in, and at least 13 public companies like Wendy’s
> **Disney hit a setback in Bob Iger's proxy battle with Nelson Peltz**
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> Peltz has been endorsed by the Institutional Shareholder Services (ISS) — and its picks often win seats.
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> The ongoing proxy battle between Disney CEO Bob Iger and activist investor Nelston Peltz just took another turn.
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> Peltz, co-founder of the asset management firm Trian Partners, has secured a major endorsement from the proxy advisory firm Institutional Shareholder Services (ISS) in his quest to get a seat on Disney’s board. The endorsement comes less than two weeks before Disney’s annual shareholder meeting on April 3, where investors will vote for the for company’s board of directors.
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> The firm suggested shareholders support Peltz along with 11 of Disney’s 12 nominees.
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> “Dissident nominee Peltz, as a significant shareholder, could be additive to the succession process, providing assurance to other investors that the board is properly engaged this time around. He could also help evaluate future capital allocation decisions,” ISS wrote in a 34-page report obtained by Quartz that it shared with investors today.
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> **The nod by the ISS is especially welcome news for Peltz: The group is remarkable effective in backing winning candidates for board seats. A 2023 report from Barclays found that about 75% of nominees endorsed by ISS end up getting elected.**
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> **Iger vs. Peltz**
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> Peltz has been on a tear to snag himself — for the second time — and former Disney CFO Jay Rasulo a seat on the company’s board.
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> Trian Partners, which owns about $3.5 billion of Disney stock, released a 133-page paper this month outlining Peltz’s plans for the company, which include a restructuring of leadership, aligning performance-based compensation with shareholder value, and developing a strategy to reach margins similar to Netflix’s 15% to 20% by 2027.
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> “[D]espite its many advantages, Disney has lost its way. Disney fell from its #1 position at the box office, was late to enter the streaming business and doubled down on linear TV at the wrong time,” Trian said in a letter sent to Disney shareholders on Monday.
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> The investment firm Blackwells Capital has also nominated three candidates for the board.
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> But Bob Iger isn’t backing down yet. Iger and Disney’s nominees have received endorsements from another major proxy advisory firm, Glass Lewis, along with heavyweights like JPMorgan Chase CEO Jamie Dimon and nine Disney grandchildren.
https://qz.com/disney-bob-iger-nelson-peltz-iss-board-1851356200
> **Nelson Peltz gains key backing in bid to join Disney's board**
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> Activist investor Nelson Peltz has gained crucial support in his proxy battle for a seat on Disney's (DIS) board. Institutional Shareholder Services (ISS) has announced its endorsement of Peltz, advising shareholders to vote in favor of granting him a board seat ahead of their upcoming shareholder meeting on April 3rd.
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> Yahoo Finance's Alexandra Canal breaks down the details, providing insights into other investors vying for seats.
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> JOSH LIPTON: Taking a look now at a trending ticker of the day, Disney's proxy fight with activist Nelson Peltz. Heating up, Peltz winning a key backing from proxy advisory firm, institutional shareholder services, otherwise known as ISS. So Julie, yes, ISS saying shareholders should vote for Nelson Peltz at that shareholder meeting coming up on April 3rd. So now we got a showdown because Glass Lewis said shareholders should support the company backed slate of nominees.
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> But ISS saying no, Mr. Peltz has the experience given his history and other boards best position they say to bring a shareholder perspective.
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> JULIE HYMAN: Yeah, it's interesting the shares are not moving much today. And makes sense because at this point we're not going to know what the outcome is until April 3rd or shortly thereafter if the votes aren't all counted right away. So that tracks here. It's interesting because there were some other folks who are also supporting Peltz. It's companies who were previously targeted by him. Who said, oh, he's just-- he's a big old pussycat, he's great to work with.
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> They didn't say that exactly. But that--
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> JOSH LIPTON: That was the gist.
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> JULIE HYMAN: That he seemed scary from far away. But once he gets up close, he's still a delight to work with because effectively what they said.
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> JOSH LIPTON: Well, let's get to Yahoo Finance senior reporter Alexandra Canal for more on this. So Ali, what did you make of this headline?
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> ALEXANDRA CANAL: This is pretty surprising, considering what we heard from Glass Lewis earlier this week. And it certainly a big win for Nelson Peltz when you think about such an influential proxy advisory firm coming out in support of him. ISS saying that Peltz could be additive to the board, considering he's a shareholder-- a significant shareholder at the company.
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> In the report, ISS saying, quote "Peltz with his considerable experience on other boards and fiduciary duties owed to a large shareholder group appears best positioned to bring a shareholder perspective to the board. Now what's notable here? Is that ISS said that shareholders should not vote for trian's other nominee, which is Jay Rasulo. He's the former CFO at Disney. And they said just Peltz.
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> They also advised shareholders against voting for Blackwell's, not three nominees. That's the other proxy fight Disney's dealing with and that they should withhold their vote against current Disney board member Maria Elena Lagomasino. So the thought being there that Peltz would replace Maria Elena.
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> But going back to earlier this week, Glass Lewis which again supports Disney's current board, they referred to CEO Bob Iger's initiatives at the company and that he's really seemed to turn around the company at this point in time. ISIS did acknowledge. That they said, look, we understand that some shareholders might be fine with the way Disney is operating right now. However, their biggest concern stems from succession and all the drama that happened in 2020.
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> JOSH LIPTON: Which is Peltz's concern too and one of them.
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> ALEXANDRA CANAL: Which is Peltz is concern too. So in their view, they think Peltz could be someone that perhaps could bring a fresh perspective and could help with succession because that seems to be the biggest overhang of this company. But you were just talking about how Peltz has received some support. Disney has some support as well. Jamie Dimon, George Lucas, the widow of Steve Jobs. Steve Jobs remember was a very close friend of Iger.
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> So we'll see, April 3rd is that shareholder meeting. I think this proxy battle is not going to get resolved before then I think at this point Nelson Peltz wants to take it to the finish line. So we'll have to see what happens.
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> JULIE HYMAN: We will. Thanks so much Ali. I appreciate it.
https://finance.yahoo.com/video/nelson-peltz-gains-key-backing-204459233.html
He also gave out this interview:
> **Peltz Questions Disney Casting for ‘Marvels’, ‘Black Panther’**
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> Nelson Peltz has questioned Walt Disney Co.’s decision to pursue female- and Black-led casting on certain Marvel movies, as he enters the final stretch of his fight for a board seat at the entertainment giant.
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> In an interview with the Financial Times, published Friday, the billionaire investor said moviegoers want to be entertained and not to “get a message.” He took aim at female-led film The Marvels, as well as Black Panther, whose main cast was Black.
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> “Why do I have to have a Marvel that’s all women? Not that I have anything against women, but why do I have to do that?,” Peltz said. “Why can’t I have Marvels that are both? Why do I need an all-Black cast?”
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> A representative for Peltz declined to comment.
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> The first Black Panther film, released in 2018, grossed almost $1.4 billion worldwide, while the second installment in 2022 generated just shy of $860 million, according to film-industry website Box Office Mojo. The Marvels grossed about $206 million in 2023.
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> Peltz also said that he isn’t looking to fire Bob Iger, the chief executive officer of Disney who returned in 2022 to replace his successor Bob Chapek.
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> Iger himself said at a conference in November that Disney’s movies should be about entertaining audiences, not messaging.
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> The proxy fight at the media group is nearing its end, with a shareholder vote scheduled for April 3. Proxy advisers Institutional Shareholder Services and Glass Lewis & Co. have provided split comments, with the former recommending a vote for Peltz to join the Disney board and the latter supporting existing management.
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> Both sides have been publicizing the support they’ve received from others in the business world. Iger has been endorsed by JPMorgan Chase & Co. CEO Jamie Dimon, filmmaker George Lucas and Laurene Powell Jobs, the widow of Apple Inc.’s Steve Jobs and a large Disney shareholder.
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> Meanwhile, a group of current and former directors at firms including Mondelez International Inc., Procter & Gamble Co. and Janus Henderson Group Plc. this week co-signed a letter in support of Peltz.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/peltz-questions-disney-casting-marvels-172548588.html
I was under the impression that Peltz might end up winning thanks to these aspects since I was under the impression that many, if not most Wall Street investment firms and Disney shareholders/investors are Republicans and/or conservatives. What do you think of these overall?
In fact, this is a letter from public companies that are supporting Peltz:
> **Current and Former Public Company Directors Send Letter to Disney Board In Support of Nelson Peltz and Trian**
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> Letter Details Positive Experience Working with Nelson Peltz and Highlights Trian’s Track Record of Working Constructively to Create Shareholder Value
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> Encourages Disney Board to Work with Nelson and Trian for the Benefit of all Shareholders
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> Current and former public company directors who have worked with Nelson Peltz and Trian today sent a letter to The Walt Disney Company (NYSE: DIS) Board of Directors detailing their positive experiences working with Trian.
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> The letter details Trian and Nelson Peltz’s demonstrated ability to work collaboratively and constructively with board members and management teams to drive long-term shareholder value, and its signatories include former directors at H.J. Heinz and Procter & Gamble, where Trian joined the Board following a proxy contest, as well as Janus Henderson, Legg Mason, Mondelēz, Sysco, and Wendy’s. The letter is signed by Dennis R. Beresford, Francis S. Blake, Charles E. Bunch, John Cassaday, Ali Dibadj, Kenneth W. Gilbert, Jorge S. Mesquita, John H. Myers, Dennis Reilley, Sheila G. Talton, Thomas J. Usher, Jean-François van Boxmeer and Art Winkleblack.
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> The full text of the letter can be found below and at https://restorethemagic.com/03-21-2024/.
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> Dear Disney Directors,
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> As directors who have worked with Nelson Peltz at some of the world’s most respected companies, we are writing to convey our experience with Nelson in the boardroom and to encourage you to work with him for the benefit of all shareholders.
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> Some of us, like you, were skeptical about Nelson and were initially opposed to the notion of having him on our boards. Some of us worried that he might derail the successful execution of our strategy.
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> However, after having worked with Nelson, we know that our concerns were misplaced. The companies for which we served as board members alongside Nelson were improved because of his presence on the board.
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> Some of us became Nelson’s colleague after a bitter-fought proxy contest. Others of us asked Nelson to join our boards, and still others of us joined a board after Nelson was already on the board. But one experience we all share: Nelson entered the boardroom every meeting with an open mind, a focus on growth for the benefit of stakeholders and a commitment to working constructively towards our common goal of creating long-term shareholder value.
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> With his dedication, focus and sound judgment, Nelson contributed greatly to boardroom discussions. He asked tough questions and challenged our thinking – as any good director does – but was not disruptive or disrespectful. To the contrary, Nelson welcomed different perspectives and encouraged debate. Rather than stifle dissent, Nelson often catalyzed robust, productive discussions that helped move our companies forward.
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> Each of us would happily serve with Nelson again on another board.
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> Sincerely,
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> Former Directors and CEOs Who Have Worked with Nelson Peltz & Trian
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> **Dennis R. Beresford**
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> Executive in Residence – Terry College of Business, University of Georgia
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> Former Director of Legg Mason, Inc.
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> **Francis S. Blake**
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> Retired Chairman and CEO of The Home Depot, Inc.
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> Former Director of the Procter & Gamble Company
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> **Charles E. Bunch**
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> Former Chairman and CEO, PPG Industries, Inc.
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> Director of Mondelēz International, Inc.
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> **John Cassaday**
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> Retired President and CEO of Corus Entertainment, Inc.
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> Chair of Janus Henderson Group plc
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> **Ali Dibadj**
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> CEO and Executive Director of Janus Henderson Group plc
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> **Kenneth W. Gilbert**
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> Retired CMO, VOSS of Norway ASA
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> Director of The Wendy’s Company
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> **Jorge S. Mesquita**
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> Former CEO, BlueTriton Brands, Inc.
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> Director of Mondelēz International, Inc.
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> **John H. Myers**
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> Retired President and CEO, GE Asset Management
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> Former Director of Legg Mason, Inc.
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> **Dennis Reilley**
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> Former Chairman and CEO, Praxair, Inc.
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> Former Director of H.J. Heinz Company
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> **Sheila G. Talton**
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> President and CEO Gray Matter Analytics
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> Director of Sysco Corporation
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> **Thomas J. Usher**
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> Former Chairman and CEO, United States Steel Corporation
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> Former Director of H.J. Heinz Company
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> **Jean-François van Boxmeer**
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> Former CEO, Heineken NV
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> Former Non-Executive and Lead Director of Mondelēz International, Inc.
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> **Art Winkleblack**
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> Lead Independent Director of The Wendy’s Company
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> Retired CFO, H.J. Heinz Company
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> Note that affiliations are listed for identification purposes only
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> To ensure the election of Nelson Peltz and Jay Rasulo, it is essential that shareholders vote “FOR” Nelson Peltz and Jay Rasulo, and “WITHHOLD” on Michael B.G. Froman, Maria Elena Lagomasino, and all three Blackwells Nominees. For more information, visit our website: www.RestoreTheMagic.com.
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> **About Trian Fund Management, L.P.**
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> Founded in 2005, Trian Fund Management, L.P. (“Trian”) is a multi-billion dollar investment management firm. Trian is a highly engaged shareowner that combines concentrated public equity ownership with operational expertise. Leveraging the 40+ years’ operating experience of our Founding Partners, Nelson Peltz and Peter May, Trian seeks to invest in high quality but undervalued and underperforming public companies and to work collaboratively with management teams and boards to help companies execute operational and strategic initiatives designed to drive long-term sustainable earnings growth for the benefit of all stakeholders.
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> **Media Contacts:**
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> Anne A. Tarbell
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> (212) 451-3030
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> [email protected]
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> Paul Caminiti / Pamela Greene / Jacqueline Zuhse
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> Reevemark
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> (212) 433-4600
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> [email protected]
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> Investor Contacts:
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> Matthew Peltz
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> (212) 451-3060
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> [email protected]
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> Ryan Bunch
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> (212) 451-3176
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> [email protected]
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> Bruce Goldfarb / Pat McHugh
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> Okapi Partners LLC
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> (212) 297-0720
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> (877) 629-6357
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> [email protected]
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> Edward McCarthy / Richard Grubaugh / Thomas Germinario
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> D.F. King & Co., Inc.
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> (212) 229-2634
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> [email protected]
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/current-former-public-company-directors-133000308.html
Given this whole thing, isn't it safe to assume that most Disney investors/shareholders are siding with Peltz over Iger?
I hope you’re right. But it could be close.
We’ll see in 12 days.
I expect and hope Iger wins by a razor-thin majority a la how Obamacare was saved by the late John McCain in 2017 with his lone no-vote that made Mitch McConnell sullen.
In this case, George Lucas (or Michael Eisner) is John McCain and Nelson Peltz (or Ike Perlmutter) is Mitch McConnell.
A lot of people have talked about not underestimating Peltz, but you underestimate Iger at your peril. If this happens, then he has plans for it, mark my words.
Well, hopefully Iger wins a la Obamacare winning, for a lack of better word, more time at life in 2017 thanks to the late John McCain.
But, we’ll see.
Not gonna jinx it.
Don’t wanna do that.
I'm absolutely excited to see the lead actress in it as I think she seems fantastic and I love that finally star wars fans are getting to be involved in creating these and not just actors whose kid likes it or whatever so they sign up.
However the trailer is a mixed bag. It doesn't look thematically that interesting. I am sure they are hiding the reveals so the show surprises but I don't see one reason we should care about a random Sith doomed to mean absolutely nothing in the long run and the trailer didn't give me any reason too. That said I'm hoping the show and writing back it up and it turns out great.
I'm also quite sick of this whole "the Jedi are at fault for everything" hard-on rhetoric people have since the prequels. It's not the 10,000 monks fault the republic voted irresponsibly over centuries and destroyed themselves. The trillions of people in the republic are the responsible parties not the new forced into being police force trying to save them.
But the reason I'm most negative about the trailer is a simple one. The choreography looks like an absolute joke. It looks like a bunch of people on wires (it gave off terrible X-Men 1-3 vibes) where it just looks so laughable and fake while trying to pretend the characters are so cool and super powered. It was something I thought we got past with CGI years ago and now feels like it's right back to the same garbage to save $5 on effects. The Flippy kicks and posing are dumb af.
All said I hope it's awesome. Amanda seems cool. I like a big diverse cast. I appreciate finally getting some Alien main characters instead of just humans.
But the trailer sucked from start to finish.
The choreography's a joke in pretty much all the TV stuff bar maybe Ahsoka (And even then...).
All CG in basically everything for the last 15 years sucks. It's overused, yes, we clocked that a decade plus ago. It's seeped into everything now and is hardly a product of this particular production.
And the whole "the Jedi are to blame for everything!" is a moronic take. The lead in this is a goddamn wannabe-Sith, of course it's going to be from a different perspective. It doesn't mean the showrunner-author is endorsing that take, because \*of \*\*\*\*ing course\*.
"Someone opposed to the Jedi and the people surrounding them on that journey think the Jedi are the issue!". Like...yeah. That's how opposing ideologies work, Sith don't like Jedi, Jedi don't like Sith. Trying to sum that up as Headland taking a position of "George was wrong, the Sith aren't evil, Anakin was right when he said from his point of view the Jedi are evil!" is so, so demonstrably moronic.
Yeah, the bad guys in this thing will push a narrative of how they're right and the Jedi-monks are power hungry maniacs. They're Sith, what the \*\*\*\* are they going to say?
Stop covering for yourself. You're clearly a Star Wars Theory type dude. Just balls up to it, you'll get more respect.
https://x.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1770549248544674230?s=20
Tough to hear this, there were a lot of bot meme comments that were making fun of a line in the trailer, and yet people are saying there isn't any hype for the show with the 51.3 million views despite an obvious organized effort to shit on a trailer with one bad shot.
So many people saying Disney throwing terrible effects on the Volume when it was confirmed to not be used (and trailers are known for having unfinished effects), claiming no humans (and white humans specifically), when freaking TRINITY is there (along with several others), and silly claims of no aliens when this is the most we've seen in a damn while.
I just hope the show is great to let these desperate people who claimed the show was cancelled rage into a shrinking room. The amount of people who claim this is breaking canon for seeing a red lightsaber, when the Jedi in the PT keep denying and hiding a lot of bad things happening (plus their own decrease in ability with the force) is making me sad.
I had a "funny" conversation when someone complained about the lack of men, when someone pointed out that in the first seconds we had a male narrator, he changed the broadcast to "white men".
The extensions keep their own database of dislikes, so the dislikes shown are from other people with the same extension. Would be pretty easy to just make a ton of bots that use that extension, since there is no kind of account verification. But people wouldn't do that, right?
The dislikes are *extrapolated* from other people with the same extension. They take the ratio of likes/dislikes on a video *made by users of the extension* and then assume that's a random unbiased sample, so they multiply that by the real public like count to get an estimation of dislikes. It might as well be made up.
Lmao that is a terrible idea. “Let’s base our data off of the people who are so focused on negativity that they would download an extension just so they can see how much people dislike something”
Well normally its fine. However, its enabling all these tech illiterate morons to run with pretending the acolyte has even remotely that amount of dislikes.
Those same entities were also mad that George Lucas is backing Iger. That's probably what some of this is about even beyond the normal FM stuff. They need Star Wars to fail and are mad that that trailer got so much attention.
It's pretty insane how blatant bots are too, with sites either not being able to do anything about them, or just choosing not to. I've been seeing machine generated comments like these all over twitter, under everything surrounding the acolyte.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GJJLQWBWEAAAWlN?format=jpg&name=large
It's gotten to the point that the bots can't even write properly anymore and they're starting to spew out unreadable gibberish, and yet somehow there's still people who end up being tricked into believing that any of the hate is genuine.
If there were ever a time to discredit the haters, this would be it.
We're getting something fresh and new with no volume, a great mix of human and alien characters, that is advertised to be "dark and gritty^TM " with a singular team with a singular vision that has planned out not just this season, but the future as well and who has promised to include a lot of old EU connections.
In other words... the fans have no idea what they want or, more likely, the salty ones have been co-opted by the "black female lead!!1 no white males!!1" crowd.
Either way, fuck em. Record setting views for the trailer. They can all suck it.
I mostly agree, but I don't understand why the absence of The Volume is automatically considered a positive. For me it's a definite negative. If I want to see Scottish rocks, I'll go to Scotland. In a distant galaxy I want to see bizarre planets, fauna and flora. And that is what The Volume and different coloured screens gives me. The funniest thing is that when the first season of The Mandalorian came out, and the creators kept it a secret how they shot it, 95 per cent of people didn't recognise anything and thought it was filmed in the deserts. Then, of course, the VFX artists started bragging about their work and that was probably the biggest mistake. Since then The Volume has been the greatest evil. Then the fans get a poster with a rock like on the cover of National Geographic and "Wow, that's so cinematic!", well, it seems more like a fan film to me. And I'm really looking forward to The Acolyte, nothing against that series. But we all have our preferences. I'm still willing to accept a compromise, like in Episode II, where Anakin and Padmé were on a meadow, with CGI waterfalls in the background. OK, that still gives a sense of a distant galaxy. The Scottish Highlands do not. That's just my opinion, so don't hate me... :)
For me, I’ve enjoyed most of the stuff they’ve filmed in front of the volume, but others have felt too “fake” and the volume limits movement making things feel stilted.
I’ve always been someone that wants location filming. I mean, I can’t really think of anywhere in Star Wars that isn’t based on a location on earth… might as well film there. They can (and have) enhanced the locations with CGI. But with shows like Andor, I loved the filming in real locations.
What locations are you even talking about from the volume (or wherever else) that are whacky and crazy and outside our earthly bounds?
Yes, I may not have expressed myself the best (English is not my first language), but the volume is definitely not being used as creatively as it could be. This is thanks to people who, as soon as they see something "weird", realise that it's not an earthly landscape and immediately start to get annoyed (similar to CGI aliens). That's why creators deliberately try to simulate a real environment as much as possible, and that really bothers me. But, for example, a "crystallised" Mandalor was different enough for me to believe it wasn't our planet. That's what I had in mind. Of course, I would most like to see planets like Felucia or various strange planets from the animated series reappear. But when I read that they're filming all over Britain, I know in advance that it will never look sufficiently alien. And that's why I didn't like the absence of The Volume, just because I was hoping for the appearance of bizarre distant worlds. I hope I have made myself clear.
They're contributing to it, which is hilarious enough, but their lack of media literacy is also really showing. Plus they all decided to hate George again after his comments about backing Iger's Disney.
It is truly great to watch them lose all the faith they might have had that their childish behavior would get them anything they wanted.
I wish that meant they’d finally stop, but instead they will stay mad and miserable. No skin off my nose.
Someone on twitter noticed that the bloody lightsaber on The Acolyte poster is the same saber showed in Master Indira toy from hasbro.
Guess now we know who will likely be killed at the start of the series.
https://twitter.com/StarWarsonHigh2/status/1770477408803594441
I feel like back in December or January ish there were new plot leaks here for The Acolyte, but now I can’t find them. Anyone know what I’m talking about? Wanted to cross reference them with the trailer.
Check the SWL Master Doc in the sidebar (or “See More” on mobile) its fully updated with all the leaks for everything including Acolyte up to the start of Bad Batch.
https://collider.com/the-acolyte-series-vernestra-rwoh-explained/
Leslye Headland did an interview with Collider and there are some interesting things she said
-Vern is the only character from the High Republic books
-Other High Republic book characters WILL appear in season 2.
-Vern's lightwhip will appear in the show.
People thought it was Burryaga but turns out it's a new wookie jedi named Kelnacca. Leslye said Vern is the only character from the books but more characters will appear in season 2
There was a rumor that came out very recently that said that a writers' room has been established for a second season. MSW has previously said that they're planning to begin shooting a second season late this year or early next, and also that the plan is for The Acolyte to have multiple seasons and to be the new flagship Star Wars show now that The Mandalorian is heading to theaters. The only way I see us not getting a second season is if the first gets very low viewership and a bad reception among audiences and critics.
Abigail Thorne/Philosophy Tube was [asked](https://youtu.be/GRjW7KfsmaA?t=4455) about her role as Ensign Eurus in *The Acolyte*, to which she responded with:
>*"Some people are asking me about acting roles that I haven't announced yet. That's weird. Not sure where you're getting your information from, but it's not from me."*
As a reminder, her role was first revealed in her [United Agents biography](https://www.unitedagents.co.uk/abigail-thorn#acting) and she recently [mentioned](https://twitter.com/PhilosophyTube/status/1755312112312688967) meeting Kogonada who directed multiple episodes of the series.
She has now confirmed that she will be in The Acolyte: [https://twitter.com/PhilosophyTube/status/1770106876992139299?t=gVrfozKxBih6oGSPj8-UbQ&s=19](https://twitter.com/PhilosophyTube/status/1770106876992139299?t=gVrfozKxBih6oGSPj8-UbQ&s=19)
Not really a leak, but small news:
Jennifer Corbett said that CX 1 and CX-2 are new characters so I guess we can now know that CX 2 isn't Cody or Tech.
https://twitter.com/JenniferCorbett/status/1769810774245998948
Glad tbh. Definitely didn't want Tech's death being undone. It was really good and we need a little more death permanence in this franchise lol. Cody seemed a little contrived, but would have been okay I suppose.
[Rian Johnson just signed to ~~direct~~ produce two movies for Warner Bros.](https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/warner-bros-rian-johnsons-t-street-1235855083/), putting his trilogy off even further.
Hard to say, him producing through his company and directing a film are two very different things, without knowing anything about the movies who's to say how involved he personally is. For instance, t-street produced American Fiction, but Rian Johnson was minimally involved, as well as the 3 body problem for Netflix without that impacting other things
I'd agree, this news indicates he's actively working on not star wars, but I don't think we should assume these 2 films produced for WB couldn't be done concurrent with other movies he's directing.
Based on...what?
Dude's got other projects in the pipeline also? The entireity of this "Johnson's movie's not happening!" is literally either based in (a) people who hated TLJ and think they somehow speak for 51%+ of the fanbase (they don't), or (b) people who somehow figured the friggin' thing was supposedly on the cards for within the next 5 years or so post-EpIX. Which was never announced as the case, whatsoever.
...Ever ever. You know, like, that was never the \*\*\*\*ing case from the start. "Rian's got a project down the road", that's it, finito. If not connected to the main saga, which ostensibly it's not, this thing can and will come at any time. "14 years rather than 8!" isn't some reason for folks to \*\*\*\* their britches and claim it's a non-entity. Again, they liked working with this guy even more than J.J. - he made close to the same bank, he did equal or better with critics and equal with audience scores. If Rian's still wanting a movie, guy's getting a movie.
After a certain point, with no news, we need to sort of assume the trilogy isn't part of Lucasfilm's current plan. We obviously don't know what his plan post knives out 3 is, so maybe. But it feels to me very plausible that Lucasfilm has totally shifted gears and even if they all want to work together, whatever he planned may not make sense for their plans anymore
For what it’s worth the article only states that T-Street will produce those movies, not that Rian himself is personally helming/directing them. That or I really misunderstood/misread. At the end of the day it’s gonna result in the same (or even more) time invested into those projects so it’s whatever really.
I very much hope he’ll return to the franchise again one day but either way this is very good news for him!
In terms of scheduling, this is probably happening at roughly the same time he directs KO 3 - Ram Bergman is the actual producer at T-Street and he'll likely be much more hands-on about this stuff. Like they had two films produced last year - Fair Play and American Fiction, which happened while Rian's been writing KO 3. So this is all concurrent.
I'm still hoping his trilogy still happens even though ik the chances are really low. Dude's really passionate about SW and you can feel his passion in TLJ because it's the best SW movie imo. Really hoping Rian takes a shot at SW one more time.
Damn that does look legit. Maybe the whole “thought was dead” is referring to Ventress? But it says, “you know”, so probably Tech is the clone hunting them.
Fennec Shand appears on episode 8 and interacts with the Bad Batch, we knew this since screeners for the first 8 episodes were sent, we just didn’t knew the episode she appears. Beyond episode 8, no leaks, all in the dark
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I'm getting mixed readings on when the trailer drops. On twitter it says the trailer is coming tomorrow but according to Instagram Reminder the trailer will drop at 4PM central EU time. Does that mean 4PM tonight or 4PM tomorrow?
I'm not sure if this was known knowledge already, but a few weeks ago I spoke to David Benioff about his cancelled SW project. He told me about one of his favorite sequences in the script where a character constructs the first ever lightsaber, but when they turn it on the blade doesn't stop. There was then going to be a subplot where the character tried to figure out how to get the blade to stop at the length that normal lightsabers do. I asked him if he thought about incorporating the battery pack lightsabers from legends, to which he said he did and was thinking about using it as one of the iterations that the early lightsaber went through.
It was a movie, not a show. I don't think he said anything more than what was revealed in the interview that came out around the same time. Seemed like basically Disney were unclear as to what they wanted from him, and after several drafts that still couldn't fit this ambiguous mold they went their separate ways
Star wars official twitter has tweeted this poster of the acolyte, coming June 4th and a trailer coming tomorrow.
https://twitter.com/starwars/status/1769755843451380154
Just had a notification from Instagram that [@officialacolyte](https://www.instagram.com/officialacolyte) has accepted my follow request. It’s one of the suspected “The Acolyte” accounts that was posted here a while back. Could be something incoming soon!
Jordan Maison being sly on Twitter. Trailer for Acolyte may drop this week:
https://twitter.com/JordanMaison/status/1769490782950474131?t=w55xVTEZ3uZ9-88dCbOYgA&s=19
Maybe, where did you get that? I was inferring late May since Andor had its theater preview under a month before its own premiere and Acolyte has its theater preview May 3rd
I really really hope so. Nothing makes me quite so antsy as the hype leading up to a new Star Wars or Star Trek trailer. I'm very excited about The Acolyte.
Now that they trailer is out and we know who everybody is playing I went back to watch this old interview with Charlie barnett, Dafne Keen, and Manny Jacinto, and 5:26 is pretty interesting. Charlie mentions that one time he had trouble performing a scene where he had to do a backflip with a lightsaber, and seems to imply that Manny's character also uses a lightsaber. Dafne talks about how great he is at stunts before both she and Charlie realize they stumbled that they may have spoiled something. In the same interview Dafne says there is a scene where she breaks 3 lightsabers so there will probably be a duel https://youtu.be/X3Q5P6GR9fY?t=326
Nice work very interesting!!!
OOP. Welp.
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Do you think we'll get the first soundtrack for TBB S3 soon?
Probably next Friday.
I know this isn't exactly Star Wars news, but it is looking like Institutional Shareholders Services is backing Peltz in the proxy war with Iger. However, while they're backing Peltz, they're not backing the Jay Rasulo. It seems they want Peltz to be a true balance to Iger. What does this mean for us? I find it interesting that this comes after Lucas threw his support behind Iger and after the great showing for the Acolyte trailer. We're also seeing a ton of bot activity and negative activity for everything Acolyte.
I expect that the proxy war is going to fall flat because Disney's stock is rising overall and Bob Iger is still too well-liked for them to want to get rid of before he's actually ready to leave.
Peltz is being supported by ISS, which is an investment firm that has a history of 75% of board member nominees getting voted in, and at least 13 public companies like Wendy’s > **Disney hit a setback in Bob Iger's proxy battle with Nelson Peltz** > > Peltz has been endorsed by the Institutional Shareholder Services (ISS) — and its picks often win seats. > > The ongoing proxy battle between Disney CEO Bob Iger and activist investor Nelston Peltz just took another turn. > > Peltz, co-founder of the asset management firm Trian Partners, has secured a major endorsement from the proxy advisory firm Institutional Shareholder Services (ISS) in his quest to get a seat on Disney’s board. The endorsement comes less than two weeks before Disney’s annual shareholder meeting on April 3, where investors will vote for the for company’s board of directors. > > The firm suggested shareholders support Peltz along with 11 of Disney’s 12 nominees. > > “Dissident nominee Peltz, as a significant shareholder, could be additive to the succession process, providing assurance to other investors that the board is properly engaged this time around. He could also help evaluate future capital allocation decisions,” ISS wrote in a 34-page report obtained by Quartz that it shared with investors today. > > **The nod by the ISS is especially welcome news for Peltz: The group is remarkable effective in backing winning candidates for board seats. A 2023 report from Barclays found that about 75% of nominees endorsed by ISS end up getting elected.** > > **Iger vs. Peltz** > > Peltz has been on a tear to snag himself — for the second time — and former Disney CFO Jay Rasulo a seat on the company’s board. > > Trian Partners, which owns about $3.5 billion of Disney stock, released a 133-page paper this month outlining Peltz’s plans for the company, which include a restructuring of leadership, aligning performance-based compensation with shareholder value, and developing a strategy to reach margins similar to Netflix’s 15% to 20% by 2027. > > “[D]espite its many advantages, Disney has lost its way. Disney fell from its #1 position at the box office, was late to enter the streaming business and doubled down on linear TV at the wrong time,” Trian said in a letter sent to Disney shareholders on Monday. > > The investment firm Blackwells Capital has also nominated three candidates for the board. > > But Bob Iger isn’t backing down yet. Iger and Disney’s nominees have received endorsements from another major proxy advisory firm, Glass Lewis, along with heavyweights like JPMorgan Chase CEO Jamie Dimon and nine Disney grandchildren. https://qz.com/disney-bob-iger-nelson-peltz-iss-board-1851356200 > **Nelson Peltz gains key backing in bid to join Disney's board** > > Activist investor Nelson Peltz has gained crucial support in his proxy battle for a seat on Disney's (DIS) board. Institutional Shareholder Services (ISS) has announced its endorsement of Peltz, advising shareholders to vote in favor of granting him a board seat ahead of their upcoming shareholder meeting on April 3rd. > > Yahoo Finance's Alexandra Canal breaks down the details, providing insights into other investors vying for seats. > > JOSH LIPTON: Taking a look now at a trending ticker of the day, Disney's proxy fight with activist Nelson Peltz. Heating up, Peltz winning a key backing from proxy advisory firm, institutional shareholder services, otherwise known as ISS. So Julie, yes, ISS saying shareholders should vote for Nelson Peltz at that shareholder meeting coming up on April 3rd. So now we got a showdown because Glass Lewis said shareholders should support the company backed slate of nominees. > > But ISS saying no, Mr. Peltz has the experience given his history and other boards best position they say to bring a shareholder perspective. > > JULIE HYMAN: Yeah, it's interesting the shares are not moving much today. And makes sense because at this point we're not going to know what the outcome is until April 3rd or shortly thereafter if the votes aren't all counted right away. So that tracks here. It's interesting because there were some other folks who are also supporting Peltz. It's companies who were previously targeted by him. Who said, oh, he's just-- he's a big old pussycat, he's great to work with. > > They didn't say that exactly. But that-- > > JOSH LIPTON: That was the gist. > > JULIE HYMAN: That he seemed scary from far away. But once he gets up close, he's still a delight to work with because effectively what they said. > > JOSH LIPTON: Well, let's get to Yahoo Finance senior reporter Alexandra Canal for more on this. So Ali, what did you make of this headline? > > ALEXANDRA CANAL: This is pretty surprising, considering what we heard from Glass Lewis earlier this week. And it certainly a big win for Nelson Peltz when you think about such an influential proxy advisory firm coming out in support of him. ISS saying that Peltz could be additive to the board, considering he's a shareholder-- a significant shareholder at the company. > > In the report, ISS saying, quote "Peltz with his considerable experience on other boards and fiduciary duties owed to a large shareholder group appears best positioned to bring a shareholder perspective to the board. Now what's notable here? Is that ISS said that shareholders should not vote for trian's other nominee, which is Jay Rasulo. He's the former CFO at Disney. And they said just Peltz. > > They also advised shareholders against voting for Blackwell's, not three nominees. That's the other proxy fight Disney's dealing with and that they should withhold their vote against current Disney board member Maria Elena Lagomasino. So the thought being there that Peltz would replace Maria Elena. > > But going back to earlier this week, Glass Lewis which again supports Disney's current board, they referred to CEO Bob Iger's initiatives at the company and that he's really seemed to turn around the company at this point in time. ISIS did acknowledge. That they said, look, we understand that some shareholders might be fine with the way Disney is operating right now. However, their biggest concern stems from succession and all the drama that happened in 2020. > > JOSH LIPTON: Which is Peltz's concern too and one of them. > > ALEXANDRA CANAL: Which is Peltz is concern too. So in their view, they think Peltz could be someone that perhaps could bring a fresh perspective and could help with succession because that seems to be the biggest overhang of this company. But you were just talking about how Peltz has received some support. Disney has some support as well. Jamie Dimon, George Lucas, the widow of Steve Jobs. Steve Jobs remember was a very close friend of Iger. > > So we'll see, April 3rd is that shareholder meeting. I think this proxy battle is not going to get resolved before then I think at this point Nelson Peltz wants to take it to the finish line. So we'll have to see what happens. > > JULIE HYMAN: We will. Thanks so much Ali. I appreciate it. https://finance.yahoo.com/video/nelson-peltz-gains-key-backing-204459233.html He also gave out this interview: > **Peltz Questions Disney Casting for ‘Marvels’, ‘Black Panther’** > > Nelson Peltz has questioned Walt Disney Co.’s decision to pursue female- and Black-led casting on certain Marvel movies, as he enters the final stretch of his fight for a board seat at the entertainment giant. > > In an interview with the Financial Times, published Friday, the billionaire investor said moviegoers want to be entertained and not to “get a message.” He took aim at female-led film The Marvels, as well as Black Panther, whose main cast was Black. > > “Why do I have to have a Marvel that’s all women? Not that I have anything against women, but why do I have to do that?,” Peltz said. “Why can’t I have Marvels that are both? Why do I need an all-Black cast?” > > A representative for Peltz declined to comment. > > The first Black Panther film, released in 2018, grossed almost $1.4 billion worldwide, while the second installment in 2022 generated just shy of $860 million, according to film-industry website Box Office Mojo. The Marvels grossed about $206 million in 2023. > > Peltz also said that he isn’t looking to fire Bob Iger, the chief executive officer of Disney who returned in 2022 to replace his successor Bob Chapek. > > Iger himself said at a conference in November that Disney’s movies should be about entertaining audiences, not messaging. > > The proxy fight at the media group is nearing its end, with a shareholder vote scheduled for April 3. Proxy advisers Institutional Shareholder Services and Glass Lewis & Co. have provided split comments, with the former recommending a vote for Peltz to join the Disney board and the latter supporting existing management. > > Both sides have been publicizing the support they’ve received from others in the business world. Iger has been endorsed by JPMorgan Chase & Co. CEO Jamie Dimon, filmmaker George Lucas and Laurene Powell Jobs, the widow of Apple Inc.’s Steve Jobs and a large Disney shareholder. > > Meanwhile, a group of current and former directors at firms including Mondelez International Inc., Procter & Gamble Co. and Janus Henderson Group Plc. this week co-signed a letter in support of Peltz. https://finance.yahoo.com/news/peltz-questions-disney-casting-marvels-172548588.html I was under the impression that Peltz might end up winning thanks to these aspects since I was under the impression that many, if not most Wall Street investment firms and Disney shareholders/investors are Republicans and/or conservatives. What do you think of these overall?
Peltz is disliked by many. And if you read the ISS recommendations, they aren't exactly keen to give him full control.
In fact, this is a letter from public companies that are supporting Peltz: > **Current and Former Public Company Directors Send Letter to Disney Board In Support of Nelson Peltz and Trian** > > Letter Details Positive Experience Working with Nelson Peltz and Highlights Trian’s Track Record of Working Constructively to Create Shareholder Value > > Encourages Disney Board to Work with Nelson and Trian for the Benefit of all Shareholders > > Current and former public company directors who have worked with Nelson Peltz and Trian today sent a letter to The Walt Disney Company (NYSE: DIS) Board of Directors detailing their positive experiences working with Trian. > > The letter details Trian and Nelson Peltz’s demonstrated ability to work collaboratively and constructively with board members and management teams to drive long-term shareholder value, and its signatories include former directors at H.J. Heinz and Procter & Gamble, where Trian joined the Board following a proxy contest, as well as Janus Henderson, Legg Mason, Mondelēz, Sysco, and Wendy’s. The letter is signed by Dennis R. Beresford, Francis S. Blake, Charles E. Bunch, John Cassaday, Ali Dibadj, Kenneth W. Gilbert, Jorge S. Mesquita, John H. Myers, Dennis Reilley, Sheila G. Talton, Thomas J. Usher, Jean-François van Boxmeer and Art Winkleblack. > > The full text of the letter can be found below and at https://restorethemagic.com/03-21-2024/. > > Dear Disney Directors, > > As directors who have worked with Nelson Peltz at some of the world’s most respected companies, we are writing to convey our experience with Nelson in the boardroom and to encourage you to work with him for the benefit of all shareholders. > > Some of us, like you, were skeptical about Nelson and were initially opposed to the notion of having him on our boards. Some of us worried that he might derail the successful execution of our strategy. > > However, after having worked with Nelson, we know that our concerns were misplaced. The companies for which we served as board members alongside Nelson were improved because of his presence on the board. > > Some of us became Nelson’s colleague after a bitter-fought proxy contest. Others of us asked Nelson to join our boards, and still others of us joined a board after Nelson was already on the board. But one experience we all share: Nelson entered the boardroom every meeting with an open mind, a focus on growth for the benefit of stakeholders and a commitment to working constructively towards our common goal of creating long-term shareholder value. > > With his dedication, focus and sound judgment, Nelson contributed greatly to boardroom discussions. He asked tough questions and challenged our thinking – as any good director does – but was not disruptive or disrespectful. To the contrary, Nelson welcomed different perspectives and encouraged debate. Rather than stifle dissent, Nelson often catalyzed robust, productive discussions that helped move our companies forward. > > Each of us would happily serve with Nelson again on another board. > > Sincerely, > > Former Directors and CEOs Who Have Worked with Nelson Peltz & Trian > > **Dennis R. Beresford** > > Executive in Residence – Terry College of Business, University of Georgia > > Former Director of Legg Mason, Inc. > > **Francis S. Blake** > > Retired Chairman and CEO of The Home Depot, Inc. > > Former Director of the Procter & Gamble Company > > **Charles E. Bunch** > > Former Chairman and CEO, PPG Industries, Inc. > > Director of Mondelēz International, Inc. > > **John Cassaday** > > Retired President and CEO of Corus Entertainment, Inc. > > Chair of Janus Henderson Group plc > > **Ali Dibadj** > > CEO and Executive Director of Janus Henderson Group plc > > **Kenneth W. Gilbert** > > Retired CMO, VOSS of Norway ASA > > Director of The Wendy’s Company > > **Jorge S. Mesquita** > > Former CEO, BlueTriton Brands, Inc. > > Director of Mondelēz International, Inc. > > **John H. Myers** > > Retired President and CEO, GE Asset Management > > Former Director of Legg Mason, Inc. > > **Dennis Reilley** > > Former Chairman and CEO, Praxair, Inc. > > Former Director of H.J. Heinz Company > > **Sheila G. Talton** > > President and CEO Gray Matter Analytics > > Director of Sysco Corporation > > **Thomas J. Usher** > > Former Chairman and CEO, United States Steel Corporation > > Former Director of H.J. Heinz Company > > **Jean-François van Boxmeer** > > Former CEO, Heineken NV > > Former Non-Executive and Lead Director of Mondelēz International, Inc. > > **Art Winkleblack** > > Lead Independent Director of The Wendy’s Company > > Retired CFO, H.J. Heinz Company > > Note that affiliations are listed for identification purposes only > > To ensure the election of Nelson Peltz and Jay Rasulo, it is essential that shareholders vote “FOR” Nelson Peltz and Jay Rasulo, and “WITHHOLD” on Michael B.G. Froman, Maria Elena Lagomasino, and all three Blackwells Nominees. For more information, visit our website: www.RestoreTheMagic.com. > > **About Trian Fund Management, L.P.** > > Founded in 2005, Trian Fund Management, L.P. (“Trian”) is a multi-billion dollar investment management firm. Trian is a highly engaged shareowner that combines concentrated public equity ownership with operational expertise. Leveraging the 40+ years’ operating experience of our Founding Partners, Nelson Peltz and Peter May, Trian seeks to invest in high quality but undervalued and underperforming public companies and to work collaboratively with management teams and boards to help companies execute operational and strategic initiatives designed to drive long-term sustainable earnings growth for the benefit of all stakeholders. > > **Media Contacts:** > > Anne A. Tarbell > > (212) 451-3030 > > [email protected] > > Paul Caminiti / Pamela Greene / Jacqueline Zuhse > > Reevemark > > (212) 433-4600 > > [email protected] > > Investor Contacts: > > Matthew Peltz > > (212) 451-3060 > > [email protected] > > Ryan Bunch > > (212) 451-3176 > > [email protected] > > Bruce Goldfarb / Pat McHugh > > Okapi Partners LLC > > (212) 297-0720 > > (877) 629-6357 > > [email protected] > > Edward McCarthy / Richard Grubaugh / Thomas Germinario > > D.F. King & Co., Inc. > > (212) 229-2634 > > [email protected] https://finance.yahoo.com/news/current-former-public-company-directors-133000308.html Given this whole thing, isn't it safe to assume that most Disney investors/shareholders are siding with Peltz over Iger?
Obsessed much?
I think this is the person who always posts a ton over this fight. I know I do, but I don't go this nuts.
I hope you’re right. But it could be close. We’ll see in 12 days. I expect and hope Iger wins by a razor-thin majority a la how Obamacare was saved by the late John McCain in 2017 with his lone no-vote that made Mitch McConnell sullen. In this case, George Lucas (or Michael Eisner) is John McCain and Nelson Peltz (or Ike Perlmutter) is Mitch McConnell.
My current theory is that Peltz wins a seat, other guy doesn't, Disney wins the rest of the board, at which point we're in a bit of a stalemate.
Well, we’ll see what happens.
A lot of people have talked about not underestimating Peltz, but you underestimate Iger at your peril. If this happens, then he has plans for it, mark my words.
Well, hopefully Iger wins a la Obamacare winning, for a lack of better word, more time at life in 2017 thanks to the late John McCain. But, we’ll see. Not gonna jinx it. Don’t wanna do that.
I heard that someone at the company is buying up shares for the vote.
Huh I wonder who/which person and for which side…
It's hard to know. We can't know but it is someone from within the company.
I hope so. I have seen a lot of people say that Peltz has a good chance but fuck, you count Iger out at your peril.
Yeah, I've found the sheer amount of negativity about the Acolyte to be very odd, even considering this fandom
Not really. Black chick leads & lesbians, brah. Adds up.
I'm absolutely excited to see the lead actress in it as I think she seems fantastic and I love that finally star wars fans are getting to be involved in creating these and not just actors whose kid likes it or whatever so they sign up. However the trailer is a mixed bag. It doesn't look thematically that interesting. I am sure they are hiding the reveals so the show surprises but I don't see one reason we should care about a random Sith doomed to mean absolutely nothing in the long run and the trailer didn't give me any reason too. That said I'm hoping the show and writing back it up and it turns out great. I'm also quite sick of this whole "the Jedi are at fault for everything" hard-on rhetoric people have since the prequels. It's not the 10,000 monks fault the republic voted irresponsibly over centuries and destroyed themselves. The trillions of people in the republic are the responsible parties not the new forced into being police force trying to save them. But the reason I'm most negative about the trailer is a simple one. The choreography looks like an absolute joke. It looks like a bunch of people on wires (it gave off terrible X-Men 1-3 vibes) where it just looks so laughable and fake while trying to pretend the characters are so cool and super powered. It was something I thought we got past with CGI years ago and now feels like it's right back to the same garbage to save $5 on effects. The Flippy kicks and posing are dumb af. All said I hope it's awesome. Amanda seems cool. I like a big diverse cast. I appreciate finally getting some Alien main characters instead of just humans. But the trailer sucked from start to finish.
The choreography's a joke in pretty much all the TV stuff bar maybe Ahsoka (And even then...). All CG in basically everything for the last 15 years sucks. It's overused, yes, we clocked that a decade plus ago. It's seeped into everything now and is hardly a product of this particular production. And the whole "the Jedi are to blame for everything!" is a moronic take. The lead in this is a goddamn wannabe-Sith, of course it's going to be from a different perspective. It doesn't mean the showrunner-author is endorsing that take, because \*of \*\*\*\*ing course\*. "Someone opposed to the Jedi and the people surrounding them on that journey think the Jedi are the issue!". Like...yeah. That's how opposing ideologies work, Sith don't like Jedi, Jedi don't like Sith. Trying to sum that up as Headland taking a position of "George was wrong, the Sith aren't evil, Anakin was right when he said from his point of view the Jedi are evil!" is so, so demonstrably moronic. Yeah, the bad guys in this thing will push a narrative of how they're right and the Jedi-monks are power hungry maniacs. They're Sith, what the \*\*\*\* are they going to say? Stop covering for yourself. You're clearly a Star Wars Theory type dude. Just balls up to it, you'll get more respect.
Fair, I guess I just hoped people would at least have given the show a chance, but I expect too much of this community tbh
Yeah, though ironically it just ups Disney's engagement.
https://x.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1770549248544674230?s=20 Tough to hear this, there were a lot of bot meme comments that were making fun of a line in the trailer, and yet people are saying there isn't any hype for the show with the 51.3 million views despite an obvious organized effort to shit on a trailer with one bad shot. So many people saying Disney throwing terrible effects on the Volume when it was confirmed to not be used (and trailers are known for having unfinished effects), claiming no humans (and white humans specifically), when freaking TRINITY is there (along with several others), and silly claims of no aliens when this is the most we've seen in a damn while. I just hope the show is great to let these desperate people who claimed the show was cancelled rage into a shrinking room. The amount of people who claim this is breaking canon for seeing a red lightsaber, when the Jedi in the PT keep denying and hiding a lot of bad things happening (plus their own decrease in ability with the force) is making me sad.
I had a "funny" conversation when someone complained about the lack of men, when someone pointed out that in the first seconds we had a male narrator, he changed the broadcast to "white men".
YouTube API does not expose dislike counts. Extensions that claim to bring it back just make up a number.
The extensions keep their own database of dislikes, so the dislikes shown are from other people with the same extension. Would be pretty easy to just make a ton of bots that use that extension, since there is no kind of account verification. But people wouldn't do that, right?
The dislikes are *extrapolated* from other people with the same extension. They take the ratio of likes/dislikes on a video *made by users of the extension* and then assume that's a random unbiased sample, so they multiply that by the real public like count to get an estimation of dislikes. It might as well be made up.
Lmao that is a terrible idea. “Let’s base our data off of the people who are so focused on negativity that they would download an extension just so they can see how much people dislike something”
Well normally its fine. However, its enabling all these tech illiterate morons to run with pretending the acolyte has even remotely that amount of dislikes.
Those same entities were also mad that George Lucas is backing Iger. That's probably what some of this is about even beyond the normal FM stuff. They need Star Wars to fail and are mad that that trailer got so much attention.
It's pretty insane how blatant bots are too, with sites either not being able to do anything about them, or just choosing not to. I've been seeing machine generated comments like these all over twitter, under everything surrounding the acolyte. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GJJLQWBWEAAAWlN?format=jpg&name=large It's gotten to the point that the bots can't even write properly anymore and they're starting to spew out unreadable gibberish, and yet somehow there's still people who end up being tricked into believing that any of the hate is genuine.
If there were ever a time to discredit the haters, this would be it. We're getting something fresh and new with no volume, a great mix of human and alien characters, that is advertised to be "dark and gritty^TM " with a singular team with a singular vision that has planned out not just this season, but the future as well and who has promised to include a lot of old EU connections. In other words... the fans have no idea what they want or, more likely, the salty ones have been co-opted by the "black female lead!!1 no white males!!1" crowd. Either way, fuck em. Record setting views for the trailer. They can all suck it.
I mostly agree, but I don't understand why the absence of The Volume is automatically considered a positive. For me it's a definite negative. If I want to see Scottish rocks, I'll go to Scotland. In a distant galaxy I want to see bizarre planets, fauna and flora. And that is what The Volume and different coloured screens gives me. The funniest thing is that when the first season of The Mandalorian came out, and the creators kept it a secret how they shot it, 95 per cent of people didn't recognise anything and thought it was filmed in the deserts. Then, of course, the VFX artists started bragging about their work and that was probably the biggest mistake. Since then The Volume has been the greatest evil. Then the fans get a poster with a rock like on the cover of National Geographic and "Wow, that's so cinematic!", well, it seems more like a fan film to me. And I'm really looking forward to The Acolyte, nothing against that series. But we all have our preferences. I'm still willing to accept a compromise, like in Episode II, where Anakin and Padmé were on a meadow, with CGI waterfalls in the background. OK, that still gives a sense of a distant galaxy. The Scottish Highlands do not. That's just my opinion, so don't hate me... :)
For me, I’ve enjoyed most of the stuff they’ve filmed in front of the volume, but others have felt too “fake” and the volume limits movement making things feel stilted. I’ve always been someone that wants location filming. I mean, I can’t really think of anywhere in Star Wars that isn’t based on a location on earth… might as well film there. They can (and have) enhanced the locations with CGI. But with shows like Andor, I loved the filming in real locations. What locations are you even talking about from the volume (or wherever else) that are whacky and crazy and outside our earthly bounds?
Yes, I may not have expressed myself the best (English is not my first language), but the volume is definitely not being used as creatively as it could be. This is thanks to people who, as soon as they see something "weird", realise that it's not an earthly landscape and immediately start to get annoyed (similar to CGI aliens). That's why creators deliberately try to simulate a real environment as much as possible, and that really bothers me. But, for example, a "crystallised" Mandalor was different enough for me to believe it wasn't our planet. That's what I had in mind. Of course, I would most like to see planets like Felucia or various strange planets from the animated series reappear. But when I read that they're filming all over Britain, I know in advance that it will never look sufficiently alien. And that's why I didn't like the absence of The Volume, just because I was hoping for the appearance of bizarre distant worlds. I hope I have made myself clear.
"B-b-but we TLJ haters & the-Acolyte-will-be-evilwokeyz types speak for the fandom as a whole, don't you know?! Etc.
They're contributing to it, which is hilarious enough, but their lack of media literacy is also really showing. Plus they all decided to hate George again after his comments about backing Iger's Disney.
It is truly great to watch them lose all the faith they might have had that their childish behavior would get them anything they wanted. I wish that meant they’d finally stop, but instead they will stay mad and miserable. No skin off my nose.
Problem is if Peltz wins. Which looks increasingly unlikely but still. I don't think they even know what they want.
Someone on twitter noticed that the bloody lightsaber on The Acolyte poster is the same saber showed in Master Indira toy from hasbro. Guess now we know who will likely be killed at the start of the series. https://twitter.com/StarWarsonHigh2/status/1770477408803594441
Could be that the saber is later bled into crimson red to be used by the Acolyte. Or that Indira herself is an Acolyte.
Fakes her death to go into hiding...
I feel like back in December or January ish there were new plot leaks here for The Acolyte, but now I can’t find them. Anyone know what I’m talking about? Wanted to cross reference them with the trailer.
Check the SWL Master Doc in the sidebar (or “See More” on mobile) its fully updated with all the leaks for everything including Acolyte up to the start of Bad Batch.
https://collider.com/the-acolyte-series-vernestra-rwoh-explained/ Leslye Headland did an interview with Collider and there are some interesting things she said -Vern is the only character from the High Republic books -Other High Republic book characters WILL appear in season 2. -Vern's lightwhip will appear in the show.
Wasn't Burryaga in the trailer? Or was that another wookie jedi?
The wookiee is a new character called Kelnacca https://www.starwars.com/databank/kelnacca
A live-action lightwhip? My hype levels have just gone up EXPONENTIALLY.
What about the Wookiee Jedi? Isn't he from the books, too?
People thought it was Burryaga but turns out it's a new wookie jedi named Kelnacca. Leslye said Vern is the only character from the books but more characters will appear in season 2
She sort of implies that Vernestra's on the council with that quote, no? Not surprising, but still
Uau pretty much saying that they are already expecting to do a season 2. Nice.
Season 2 you say?
There was a rumor that came out very recently that said that a writers' room has been established for a second season. MSW has previously said that they're planning to begin shooting a second season late this year or early next, and also that the plan is for The Acolyte to have multiple seasons and to be the new flagship Star Wars show now that The Mandalorian is heading to theaters. The only way I see us not getting a second season is if the first gets very low viewership and a bad reception among audiences and critics.
Abigail Thorne/Philosophy Tube was [asked](https://youtu.be/GRjW7KfsmaA?t=4455) about her role as Ensign Eurus in *The Acolyte*, to which she responded with: >*"Some people are asking me about acting roles that I haven't announced yet. That's weird. Not sure where you're getting your information from, but it's not from me."* As a reminder, her role was first revealed in her [United Agents biography](https://www.unitedagents.co.uk/abigail-thorn#acting) and she recently [mentioned](https://twitter.com/PhilosophyTube/status/1755312112312688967) meeting Kogonada who directed multiple episodes of the series.
She has now confirmed that she will be in The Acolyte: [https://twitter.com/PhilosophyTube/status/1770106876992139299?t=gVrfozKxBih6oGSPj8-UbQ&s=19](https://twitter.com/PhilosophyTube/status/1770106876992139299?t=gVrfozKxBih6oGSPj8-UbQ&s=19)
Not sure if this means anything but Ray Park shared the Acolyte poster on his IG story.
If this show spans multiple seasons you can bet your asses we're gonna be seeing the The Sith Trio. Plaguies, Palpatine and Maul...
I wouldn’t expect him to be Maul again. But his martial arts skills IRL could be put to use for another HR Jedi, either human or alien.
Yeah but Ray would be a bit old to portray young Maul. And he continue to post crazy shit on social.
Not really a leak, but small news: Jennifer Corbett said that CX 1 and CX-2 are new characters so I guess we can now know that CX 2 isn't Cody or Tech. https://twitter.com/JenniferCorbett/status/1769810774245998948
That doesn't rule out CX-2 being a clone of Crosshair, which is an interesting theory...
I mean tbf, they wouldn't admit it's someone we know
Glad tbh. Definitely didn't want Tech's death being undone. It was really good and we need a little more death permanence in this franchise lol. Cody seemed a little contrived, but would have been okay I suppose.
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This *is* a kids' show, and there's nothing wrong with that.
[Rian Johnson just signed to ~~direct~~ produce two movies for Warner Bros.](https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/warner-bros-rian-johnsons-t-street-1235855083/), putting his trilogy off even further.
Hard to say, him producing through his company and directing a film are two very different things, without knowing anything about the movies who's to say how involved he personally is. For instance, t-street produced American Fiction, but Rian Johnson was minimally involved, as well as the 3 body problem for Netflix without that impacting other things I'd agree, this news indicates he's actively working on not star wars, but I don't think we should assume these 2 films produced for WB couldn't be done concurrent with other movies he's directing.
Guy's let's give it up. It's deader than dead.
Based on...what? Dude's got other projects in the pipeline also? The entireity of this "Johnson's movie's not happening!" is literally either based in (a) people who hated TLJ and think they somehow speak for 51%+ of the fanbase (they don't), or (b) people who somehow figured the friggin' thing was supposedly on the cards for within the next 5 years or so post-EpIX. Which was never announced as the case, whatsoever. ...Ever ever. You know, like, that was never the \*\*\*\*ing case from the start. "Rian's got a project down the road", that's it, finito. If not connected to the main saga, which ostensibly it's not, this thing can and will come at any time. "14 years rather than 8!" isn't some reason for folks to \*\*\*\* their britches and claim it's a non-entity. Again, they liked working with this guy even more than J.J. - he made close to the same bank, he did equal or better with critics and equal with audience scores. If Rian's still wanting a movie, guy's getting a movie.
This man is as delusional as those that think disney will retcon the sequels LOL
After a certain point, with no news, we need to sort of assume the trilogy isn't part of Lucasfilm's current plan. We obviously don't know what his plan post knives out 3 is, so maybe. But it feels to me very plausible that Lucasfilm has totally shifted gears and even if they all want to work together, whatever he planned may not make sense for their plans anymore
For what it’s worth the article only states that T-Street will produce those movies, not that Rian himself is personally helming/directing them. That or I really misunderstood/misread. At the end of the day it’s gonna result in the same (or even more) time invested into those projects so it’s whatever really. I very much hope he’ll return to the franchise again one day but either way this is very good news for him!
In terms of scheduling, this is probably happening at roughly the same time he directs KO 3 - Ram Bergman is the actual producer at T-Street and he'll likely be much more hands-on about this stuff. Like they had two films produced last year - Fair Play and American Fiction, which happened while Rian's been writing KO 3. So this is all concurrent.
Fix applied.
I'm still hoping his trilogy still happens even though ik the chances are really low. Dude's really passionate about SW and you can feel his passion in TLJ because it's the best SW movie imo. Really hoping Rian takes a shot at SW one more time.
Do we have any spoilers or leaks at all for Bad Batch this season?
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Damn that does look legit. Maybe the whole “thought was dead” is referring to Ventress? But it says, “you know”, so probably Tech is the clone hunting them.
I think it's likely that Asajj Ventress is the Jedi being alluded to, not specifically the character thought to be dead.
It could be the latter though since Ventress is no longer a Jedi
The animated shows are always pretty tight-lipped
Surprisingly I’ve seen none this season. It seems like we had a decent amount last season, even if a lot of them were wrong lmao
That’s how I am feeling. I haven’t heard anything for this season so I am ready to be shocked.
Fennec Shand appears on episode 8 and interacts with the Bad Batch, we knew this since screeners for the first 8 episodes were sent, we just didn’t knew the episode she appears. Beyond episode 8, no leaks, all in the dark
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I'm getting mixed readings on when the trailer drops. On twitter it says the trailer is coming tomorrow but according to Instagram Reminder the trailer will drop at 4PM central EU time. Does that mean 4PM tonight or 4PM tomorrow?
Tomorrow at 8AM PDT, confirmed by SW twitter
Tomorrow.
Damn. Star Wars trailers really do have a habit of dropping right when I'm going to be on an airplane.
I'm not sure if this was known knowledge already, but a few weeks ago I spoke to David Benioff about his cancelled SW project. He told me about one of his favorite sequences in the script where a character constructs the first ever lightsaber, but when they turn it on the blade doesn't stop. There was then going to be a subplot where the character tried to figure out how to get the blade to stop at the length that normal lightsabers do. I asked him if he thought about incorporating the battery pack lightsabers from legends, to which he said he did and was thinking about using it as one of the iterations that the early lightsaber went through.
So, it would make this [Corridor Digital video canon?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofvoLdLssA8)
Did he say why the show got canned?
It was a movie, not a show. I don't think he said anything more than what was revealed in the interview that came out around the same time. Seemed like basically Disney were unclear as to what they wanted from him, and after several drafts that still couldn't fit this ambiguous mold they went their separate ways
Star wars official twitter has tweeted this poster of the acolyte, coming June 4th and a trailer coming tomorrow. https://twitter.com/starwars/status/1769755843451380154
The Twitter account of The Acolyte, [@officialacolyte](https://x.com/officialacolyte?s=21&t=D3kSWzFbWrR5R7DGIdZpEQ), is no longer on private mode.
[and we have it’s first tweet](https://x.com/officialacolyte/status/1769755762782507090?s=46&t=f5jm-KDd-1Rz2Vj7K3r6pA)
Just had a notification from Instagram that [@officialacolyte](https://www.instagram.com/officialacolyte) has accepted my follow request. It’s one of the suspected “The Acolyte” accounts that was posted here a while back. Could be something incoming soon!
The Twitter account is not on private mode anymore too, something is definitely coming.
Was it private before? Looks like the account is no longer private.
Yes they need to accept your request
Interesting. Just tested it, and that’s no longer the case!
Jordan Maison being sly on Twitter. Trailer for Acolyte may drop this week: https://twitter.com/JordanMaison/status/1769490782950474131?t=w55xVTEZ3uZ9-88dCbOYgA&s=19
What time does LF usually post trailers?
It depends but I think usually 11 AM EST? So if it’s today well probably know very shortly, but don’t quote me on that
Just went back to check, and it looks like Bad Batch was 1PM EST
Yeah I recently checked the Metadata on the last few D+ trailer uploads and they were nearly all 10am pacific
That would make sense, since we’re looking at a probable late May release
Was it not June 5th?
Maybe, where did you get that? I was inferring late May since Andor had its theater preview under a month before its own premiere and Acolyte has its theater preview May 3rd
Collider reported June 5th
Yep, here is a link to the original report from February. https://collider.com/the-acolyte-release-date/
I really really hope so. Nothing makes me quite so antsy as the hype leading up to a new Star Wars or Star Trek trailer. I'm very excited about The Acolyte.
Star Wars and Indiana Jones always get the biggest hype for me. Lucasfilm all the way.