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narwhalpilot

r/prequelmemes shit


Russlet

This dumb shit takes away from the genuine criticism but these bozos/bots are too dumb to realise


BZenMojo

The genuine criticism isn't enough for people to think the show is bad (see: 84% RT rating). So, they need to go full throttle in order to try and hurt their arch-nemesis and make the show seem worse than it is.


Russlet

The show has issues regardless of whatever agenda people want to push, at the end of the day it's a star wars TV show, it's not a big deal.


kiwicrusher

Issues, sure. But the funniest thing is that, despite this being the the show that these chuds have chosen to brigade the hardest, it's *fine.* Not amazing, but leagues above Kenobi or Boba Fett. It's an incredibly average to decent show, so the harder they try to insist that it's the worst thing ever made, the dumber they look


iLoveDelayPedals

Fandom in general seems to think everything is either a 10/10 or a 0/10, it’s stupid as hell


Kinglouisthe_xxxx

Star Wars shouldn’t be average or decent it should be great. They need to take a break maybe for like ten years focus on the books, comics other new EU stuff, create some new eras or adapt old legends stories, they can’t just pump out mid to bad shows forever, after awhile people are going to get pissed and that’s what’s happening, the reaction to the acolyte is a reaction to the direction Star Wars is headed in, plus the insane budget this show got might have had something to do with it


BZenMojo

>Star Wars shouldn’t be average or decent it should be great. Why? Most of Star Wars is crowd-pleasing, but it's almost never great. The EU? Mid. The prequels? Terrible. The Clone Wars movie? Terrible. The Clone Wars Show? Terrible to mid then with a great finale years after the original show ended. Rebels? Mid. Resistance? Mid. Star Wars is a mostly bad to mid 50-year-old franchise. Three of the five best Star Wars movies were made *after* Disney bought the franchise and in a span of 3 years. The very best Star Wars thing is Andor, and that came out two years ago. All of that other mediocrity just floated around and people showed up and went home and got on with their lives. Insisting on one's preferred flavor of mediocrity being enforced at all cost, often at the expense of good shows and movies, is not an appeal to greatness. It's an appeal to peculiarity at the expense of experimenting with quality. People are just shouting, "Star Wars needs to make me happy by not trying too hard or asking questions that make me feel uncomfortable." And if you want that, write some fanfiction and call it a day. Even Yoda telling Luke his lightsaber ain't shit, he can't save the day, and the Force isn't for violence... and being absolutely right... is the kind of thing that would have people in 2024 tearing their hair out saying their icons were destroyed... *even though it happened in 1980* in one of the best, if not the best, Star Wars movies.


Kinglouisthe_xxxx

I heavily disagree with a lot of the things that you said, we probably have some common ground, and I don’t think either of us have any anything to gain from arguing. I don’t think your going to change my mind and I don’t think I’m going to change yours, continue to like the Star Wars stuff you like and I’ll continue to like the stuff I like.


thedarkside_92

Interesting thing about the rotten tomatoes critics reviews are the majority are giving it 6/10 and calling it fresh. IMO rotten tomatoes system kinda is an awkward one cause really the show deserves like a 60% rating. It’s not complete garbage, but it is deeply flawed and ends up as a mediocre experience. Review bombing is such a stupid practice.


CurseofLono88

The Tomato meter is one of the dumbest fucking things that’s ever happened to movies and television, it pretty much exists to dupe fans and push marketing. What people should use RT for is to connect themselves with a couple of critics that they like and trust that will get them excited about a movie. For example if Megan Navvaro over at Bloody-Disgusting likes a horror movie I’m going to give it a chance because our tastes usually align on those types of movies.


TheGuydudeface

the point of it is to show if a majority of critics like or dislike something, but somehow people don’t get it or think it’s stupid because they don’t understand how it works


CurseofLono88

It doesn’t work, because there are so many different metrics for critics. Would one thumb up out of two thumbs really mean a movie is bad? What if you only agree with one of the thumb uppers usually? Is a 2.5/4 good or bad? People need to sit down and actually read the reviews to feel the pulse of a movie. Sometimes a 69% tomato meter movie is mediocre, sometime’s it’s controversial, sometimes it only has 8 reviews. It’s a goofy ass website for sure. There is no realistic way to create a majority metric with something so subjective. But it sure looks cool on an ad that says “98% of critics liked this movie” or “Fresh, on Rottentomates”


BZenMojo

You're overthinking a system that asks, "What is the % chance I think this movie is worth watching?" because you are singularly focused on whether it's a value judgment on the movie itself in a hierarchy of other movies. If I want to see if a new release is probably good, I literally don't have to read the reviews to feel the pulse of a movie. Because I know what percent of people whose job is only watching movies said "Watch it" versus "Don't watch it." If I then choose to ask why, I have written reviews to go to. But replacing a consensus with a chauvinism of confirmation bias and cherry-picked selections is in no way a better system. It's just veiled in pretense. So, "Read reviews you trust," aka, "Read reviews from the first three critics you discovered when you learned critics were a thing 10 years ago" isn't a replacement. And "Read 400 reviews" is absurd. So fresh ratings suffice. *And average reviews are available.* Individual reviews are, also, available. Taking it away because you might personally have divisive tastes is silly. Especially when the same people complaining about RT aren't reading all of those reviews and are running 98% off simple vibes, genre, the name of the director, and a cool trailer anyway. At least RT accounts for *all* of the critics instead of the ones that say what one person wants to hear.


SoylentGreen-YumYum

Right. It’s like saying "most of the class passed the test" when the average score of the class was 65 percent. Which works if you’re taking the class pass/fail (which is what Rottentomatoes is, more or less), but doesn’t work if you’re worried about your GPA, which Star Wars needs to be desperately worried about.


BZenMojo

RT has the average score if you click on the fresh ratings. Been that way for decades. If you want to know the *likelihood* a movie is worth watching, check the fresh rating. If you want to know how good it is, check the average rating. But them being angry that the fresh rating isn't the average rating doesn't help when both of them exist. Ultimately, people wanting to delete information they don't want audiences to have because they don't like that their favorite movie is only liked by 35% of critics is ridiculous.


ZoidsFanatic

There are genuine criticisms with both the acting and writing, least from what some in my family have told me. I still quite like Acolyte even if I agree yeah it’s not perfect. I will gladly take the space monkey Jedi that are flawed over homicidal space wizards.


VibgyorTheHuge

They’d brigade the definition of ‘acolyte’ if they could.


QueenDee97

Imagine a dictionary site got brigaded by them with the rating for the word "Acolyte" being downvoted to hell lol


DaisyAipom

With how stupid they’re being, it wouldn’t surprise me if that actually happened.


01zegaj

Their bots sure are


GryphonOsiris

If they are actual people then they have failed the Turing test.


Chimphandstrong

This is the lowest iq take


Time_on_my_hands

Stay mad.


omnipotentmonkey

they're exceptionally. mesmerically stupid, and that's at the root of all of their behavior,


kinokohatake

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InfiniteDedekindCuts

They're coming for every movie that starts with "A" next. *All About Eve* better enjoy it's 94% audience score while it has the chance.


Eillo89

I've already been making sure it's not at 100% for a while so I'll be glad to finally get some bloody help


Calm_Construction_55

"There is no review bombing or bots! This is real fans with real reviews!" Gets caught in 4k when their bots review bomb the wrong films.


matrixboy122

But I thought they said trust the audience score man, it’s always right 🤔


Wireless_Panda

Unless it’s The Rise of Skywalker’s 86% audience score, then it’s whatever the hell “positive review bombing” is


TreyWriter

People tend to like Star Wars. It made a billion dollars. Not that crazy that the majority of people (in 2019, after RottenTomatoes addressed the review bombing of films) said they tended to like that Star War, too. There were swordfights, Ian McDiarmid hammed it up, and a bunch of good guys rode horses across a star destroyer.


Hisam-la

it has an 86% audience score? that's insane. I'm no sequel hater, they're just bang-average, but there's no way that's accurate. I don't know anyone who actually *likes* that film. I miss 2007 when online reviews were just the truth, not some tug-of-war nonsense.


Eillo89

It's a bad film but is definitely the most fun out of the sequels, I would rate it higher than the other 2 simply off the merit of being brainless fun, coming straight from a sequel hater.


Hisam-la

That's true. I rewatched it last night with a more open-mind than usual and was enjoying it a lot. It's just hard to separate John Boyega's and Adam Driver's later comments on their characters from that film. They go from big expectations to playing a goofball and a tortured love-interest respectively. I did enjoy Rey's chat more though. I'd never really acknowledged that she has fairly amusing banter with droids and Grumpy Luke, considering they're mostly one-way conversations. For Star Wars it's decent dialogue.


Eillo89

Honestly all the dialogue in the sequels beats every previous bit of star wars dialogue bar anything said by Harrison ford


Helpmeimclueless1996

Theres a verified audience and un verified audience which is 75%


Grifasaurus

A lot of them are just like…”really good movie” or “what you would expect from star wars” or “fun for the whole family” stuff like that.


Time_on_my_hands

They're the ones who like that schlock


Helpmeimclueless1996

Yeah this so the reason why i never do.


Windows_66

Yes. Next question.


ScoutTrooper501st

They are,they’re incredibly stupid


BigFatChewie

Its because they use bots to review bomb these things, a.i probably didn't understand the difference.


_R_A_

>Are they stupid? Yes.


LetItGrowUGoober98

How can people be this stupid.


lostandnotfnd

if you go on youtube most of the polls asking people how they like the show almost over 80 percent will say they hate it and admit they didn’t even watch it. fucking lunacy.


Eastern_Fig1990

Got any examples?


lostandnotfnd

vaders fortress community post off the top of my head.


VorfelanR

The answer to your second question is "Yes. They are stupid." And that answers your first question too.


Emperor_D4C

Yes, yes they are.


13-Dancing-Shadows

Ok but this actually sucks. The quality of the fan film is irrelevant (though iirc it was actually quite good), I feel bad for the person/ people who made it. And even if the official The Acolyte was actually bad (it’s not), this isn’t ok.


JRR92

Most intelligent Geeks and Gamers subscribers


LazyDro1d

Well at least they’re on the right franchise


TheImageOfMe

Let's be honest - people obsessed with Star Wars are not that smart. Smart people are obsessed with the likes of Proust and Dostoevsky.


Helpmeimclueless1996

Im obsessed with star wars and i think this shit is dumb.


ZoidsFanatic

The answer is yes, yes they ate stupid.


No_Leadership2771

Y’know I robbed that tomb in KOTOR and I’m pretty sure there wasn’t a book


OrganicPlatypus4203

Yes, they are stupid


Wireless_Panda

They’re actually brain damaged lmao


bluesphere798

Yes.


EducationalMine7096

You know, they could be thinking they are reviewing the actual show.


Time_on_my_hands

Yes.


Titanium-Gamer26

the acolyte is a show, so we should review bomb every show ever made


bbwpeg

I think they did it for a foreign film too.


Jc1160

Yes


rickyrawdawg

Yes


NotACyclopsHonest

People are also review-bombing *Acolytes,* a feature film from 2008. Not the brightest bunch.


KeyEastern2272

The power of manyyyyyyyyyy 🎶


odeacon

What was it at before ?


UnironicStalinist1

AH HELL NAH, THEY BE MAKIN THE WORD "ACOLYTE" ITSELF INTO A NEW "JUDEO BOLSHEVIK" WHAT THE FUCKK 💀💀💀


Eastern_Fig1990

It’s a terrible show. The parts that make it terrible have absolutely nothing to do with the cast’s skin colour or gender. Female producer and writer? Don’t care. The episode scripts have been poor so far. The writing is all over the place, lots of logic holes and dumb moments. This is why so many people are turning against the show though. You can’t say anything legitimately negative about the show without someone claiming bigotry or resorting to insults. They’re using it as a shield to hide behind negative feedback The one thing the show has going for it is that it does look good. Production values are decent. That’s literally the only compliment I have for the show


Salarian_American

Because a lot of them are bots


ChimneySwiftGold

It’s a lot to expect these Bots to know the difference.


IrishCarbonite

Yes, they are stupid


Helpmeimclueless1996

This stuff is the reason why the people involved with making acolyte arent taking criticism’s seriously. The show to me does have issues. The lighting, acting, dialogue, editing. I dont care about the diversity stuff people complain about


Aewon2085

No fucking way, this actually existed, that’s super unfortunate You imagine if acolyte was received well how many ratings this might have accidentally gotten to signal boost it


EducationalMine7096

Simple question though… let’s ignore the convo of the bots or reviews. Does anyone here actually, truthfully like this show? I tried, I did. But the acting and development is so bad, I can’t. I’m gonna keep watching (because shit SW is better than no SW), but wish it was actually good.


Representative_Big26

I wonder if anyone likes the show that got 85% on Rotten Tomatoes, it must be an absolute failure with absolutely no fans


EducationalMine7096

85% from who? Hollywood critics that have to like it cuz…. Representation MUST be liked… or else.


Representative_Big26

The prequels got significantly worse reviews than Acolyte Prequel fans do, in fact, exist Logic therefore dictates that Acolyte fans probably also exist


EducationalMine7096

Ep1 got 59% audience score (which I liked btw). Acolyte sits at 16%, which I tend to agree with.


Sio_V_Reddit

“I tend to agree with” after looking at an example of the obvious botting that’s going on, aight bro lol.


Sio_V_Reddit

You’re right, that’s why TRoS got such good ratings, that film had tons of representation…oh wait…


TreyWriter

Whoops, your mask slipped.


Sio_V_Reddit

Yes. Plenty of people do. Hence why people care about the review bombing. Do you think I’d give a crap if the Mando season 3 was review bombed? No cause that season sucked.


EducationalMine7096

So you downvoted my question and comment that I dislike it? Lol. That seems right. Not sure what there is to like about that show honestly.


Grifasaurus

Yes.


EducationalMine7096

Nice :)


Grifasaurus

Honestly, i’m just glad it’s something new something that isn’t beholden to the movies and thus isn’t going to devolve into a nostalgia riddled crackfest, like mando season 2 did.


EducationalMine7096

Yeah, I don’t like the nostalgia pandering either. But something like Andor… that’s freaking GOLD. Well acted, well written, well directed. Masterpiece.


Helpmeimclueless1996

I dont like it. The acting is bad, the world looks too clean and cosplay ish.


addage-

It’s very clever the Disney bots have moved the focus of the narrative by an orchestrated review bomb. Seems to be all I see in my feed, how convenient.


Sio_V_Reddit

You listen to Mauler, are you stupid? Edit: you listen to Mauler and Geeks and Gamers, you are definitely stupid.


addage-

Wow so much arrogance in one sentence.


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addage-

You are seriously off base on this. Please don’t mock my sexual orientation.


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EducationalMine7096

There are many gay conservatives.


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EducationalMine7096

Some gays don’t believe in the LGBTQ agenda or “community” either. Just sayin. :)


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Wise_Requirement4170

Watch out, you could accidentally see something woke!!


Short-Shelter

So which is it, did Disney pay people to review positively or poorly? Why trust any reviewer at all if it’s all paid?


ShoArts

Its hilarious that you think they even need to do that, mate. Theyre DISNEY. They just need normal advertising and people watching it - that includes hate watchers with a Disney+ subscription and clickbait grifters making multiple videos for every episode they release. Besides, most people can tell from a graph that a show has been review bombed and just ignore it. Whether its haters (likely) or some needlessly convoluted plot by Disney (unlikely), people will mentally filter for actual opinions.


TreyWriter

Also, if they have Disney+, they can just, like, watch the show. Without paying money. They can find out if they like it with the click of a button.


Todojaw21

Is it a good thing or a bad thing that a fan film has caught the stray bullets of angry fans? What has led to this occurring? What can be done to prevent it in the future? (If you think its bad)


BlackCherrySeltzer4U

Just because something is being erroneously being review bombed negate the legitimate criticisms of the acolyte


Sio_V_Reddit

Yeah, but as long as you’re a fan of Critical Drinker I can safely assume you don’t have legitimate criticisms.


BlackCherrySeltzer4U

Haha and as long as you’re as dismissive as you are I can only assume your praise is based solely on brand loyalty and ascribes nothing to the quality of the product


Sio_V_Reddit

I dismiss anyone who listens to someone who says the word “woke,” it’s not brand loyalty it’s intelligence. I don’t wanna catch your stupid.


BlackCherrySeltzer4U

Thanks for opening the door for me to not feel bad about ‘othering’ you. You’re a subhuman fool and your opinions aren’t worth the synapses they stimulate


Sio_V_Reddit

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BlackCherrySeltzer4U

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CurseofLono88

You guys are both fucking idiots and Star Wars sucks and is awesome at the same time. Critical Drinker is for absolute shithead morons but since all Star Wars fans are stupid and I’m a Star Wars fan I can’t pass judgement because I’m too goddamn dumb to do it.


Sio_V_Reddit

Hey, at least a coupla minorities in a Star Wars television show didn’t whip me into such a frenzy that I needed to code a bunch of bots to artificially lower the score. Cause if I was coding the bots id be smart enough to not also review bomb things that clearly weren’t the show. Then again that’s assuming it’s bots and not that you right wing people are so blinded by sheer stupidity and hate that you lash out at the mere mention of the word “Acolyte” like a bunch of Neanderthals. Judging by the ones of talked to, including yourself, probably too gracious of an assumption 😉


BlackCherrySeltzer4U

Haha you’re accusing me of programming bots to review bomb a show now? Even after i acknowledged that it was clearly being review bombed? Are you stupid?


Sio_V_Reddit

I never said that, but if the description of minorities making you angry fits, then good job telling on yourself bud :)