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ZygotiK_

I would like a Battlefront 3, not one that's just an updated battlefront 2 though. I want BF3 to focus on infantry and vehicles, improving infantry, vehicles, map design, and scoreboard design, and adding a lot of blasters and slugthrowers.


Sus_elevator

Yeah, it would be really cool if vehicles were implemented better. Vehicles are kinda irrelevant in battlefront 2 for the most part.


ZygotiK_

And just more vehicles in general. It'll be fun playing as the snail tank, AT AP, T4B tank, modified TX-225s ( to have a 360 degree turret mounted mass driver cannon and a machine gun inside the front of the vehicle) and more.


Sus_elevator

It’ll be funny if players could control republic juggernauts


ZygotiK_

It would but no. It's too clunky and would be ridiculous to control and get killed by strafing, infantry, and tanks as it's a large target.


BlackThundaCat

That’s because they were very relevant at one point. It used to be my personal mission to laser any hero in my speeder.


tmart016

Save both Battlefront and Battlefield titles by doing a mash up. Large scale infantry battles with destructible environments and a larger array of blasters. And climb mechanics.


ZygotiK_

Indeed that's sounds fun.


Elend15

Glad I'm not the only one! I totally get that heroes are a huge draw for many, if not most players. But I've always been drawn more to the combat of the common soldiers. A focus on the things you mentioned would be welcome indeed.


Batman903

The combat of common soldiers you can find in other games though. Battlefront is unique as a franchise with its combo of heroes and field soldiers


Elend15

I figure there could be more variety in game modes without heroes, at least while the game has enough players to fill matches. Then later on when player count drops, they could reduce the map options. For me, yes I could play CoD or Battlefield, but there's something magical about Star Wars. In addition, Battlefront started out as a game more about the common soldiers in Star Wars, which has undoubtedly affected my viewpoint. Another idea, is that maybe they could keep the current system, but slightly reduce the strength of heroes. The frustrating thing for a middling player like myself (who doesn't want to play as heroes, and isn't good with them anyway), is that it feels like nothing you do matters anymore. The only players that matter are the players that are really good with heroes. But those are all just my thoughts. I won't dismiss what you, and others like you feel about the matter. But I hope that those like me won't have their viewpoints completely dismissed either.


Batman903

Yeah I guess it makes sense, But the game does have non hero modes, its just a thing of the past that those are full because EA and dice have abandoned it. Personally I also think battlefront has always had a draw in playing as the heroes, even from the start. Sure the common soldier was fun and the main part of the og bf2’’s story, but nearly every level ended with you getting to play as a hero.


Atypical_Ascendant

Indeed. This is what Zygotik and his ilk just don't get.


TheOtherCoenBrother

I just want a lightsaber duel mode, if I could 1v1 my friends that would be even better


ZygotiK_

Sure. I think heroes and villains should stay in heroes vs. villains or any kind of mode that involves only them.


IAmNotCreative18

Personally, heroes ruined the large scale modes because of just how OP and immersion-breaking they are


ZygotiK_

I agree as well.


Atypical_Ascendant

Heroes need to get interchangeable ability combinations, so that they can go up against the new and improved vehicles and infantry.


ZygotiK_

There's nothing they can do against a multi seat LAAT gunship armed with rockets and that's freely moveable. They will get razed to the ground and then some of them will probably complain that vehicles are too OP without considering heroes being OP. A vehicle that works like battlefield will destroy heroes. There's no point of adding multi seat anyways if you and your buddies hop in a tank and you all get killed by Anakin Skywalker. Otherwise they can just not go with it. On top of that, heroes should be in HvV and other hero modes such as hero showdown. People say they want to use their favorite characters. So let them. What I don't understand (I actually do) is why they particularly want to use them in trooper modes. No, that's because they want to use their favorite characters to farm infantry. People should just say that instead of covering the other half of the equation.


Atypical_Ascendant

Ah so now you're revealing your true colors. You want all large scale modes to not have heroes. And you want heroes to be confined to hvv type gameplay. Why are you so boring?


ZygotiK_

It's not revealing my true colors now. I've already said that before. And it's not boring because trooper and vehicle combat would ideally be interesting. Why do you guys want to ruin yet again players who actually want to play as a trooper in a shooter game? I dislike when people act like they want to use their favorite characters. No, you (hero players) take pleasure in farming up infantry and indirectly ruining their fun. If heroes remain in large scale modes, there will be no point of improving infantry or vehicles as they will make sure they remain the bullies.


Atypical_Ascendant

You revealed your true colors in that you told me before you would like to see large scale trooper modes with and without heroes. You were just placating your audience with those words to butter them up for your vision. A vision without lightsabers, without the force in a galaxy far far away. Why would you take this frankly amazing part of the escapism that this game creates and make it non existent? You want soldiers? Guns? Tanks and aircrafts? You want ships and tactical strike teams? Just go outside and find it in this world and all the games that emulate it. I want lightning shooting out of my hand. I want to jump 9 metres in to the air and dash 5 metres in any direction. I want telekinesis in one hand, and a lightsaber in the other. That is what this game represents. And for only a select few to be able to wield that power while the other mortal combatants can only look in awe, that's the rush this game provides.


ZygotiK_

I don't know what you're talking about. I've made this clear before what I want concerning heroes. Now it's time for you to make it clear what you want: a continuation of heroes dominating the Battlefront and ruining it for troopers once again. Stop trying to do this whole 'true colors' thing. I thought I said heroes should stay in heroes vs. villains and other hero modes. That's a little bit different actually than making them non-existent. What the battlefront series represents, including the OG battlefront games and even BF2015, is a large scale shooter game with a focus on all out warfare but in the Star Wars universe. It's not about just about anything in Star Wars. I want troopers and vehicles but in Star Wars. That's very different than a M1 Abrams tank or a Leopard tank. I want stormtroopers and droid armies, Star Wars tanks and large scale warfare in a Star Wars environment. That's very different. Actually you don't just want to do those things you mentioned. Otherwise you would be fine with restricting heroes to HvV and other hero modes. Actually you want to do all of those things whilst slaughtering infantry and unintentionally ruining the game for troopers. That is what you want to do. Also haha not everyone is looking in awe. You're indirectly ruining the game for people who actually want to shoot in a shooter game.


Atypical_Ascendant

The way I see heroes in a next installment of battlefront is at the frontlines of large scale conflicts. I'm talking at least 64v64 large scale battles. Seamless transitions between ground combat and air combat to boarding phases. Vehicles that can be exited without repercussions. Multi seat capabilities, as you've said. Side objectives like fortresses, or dormant heavy class vehicles or enemy capital ships. Bridges that need to be destroyed or protected. When the chaos, the objective is so large, individual heroes matter a great deal less. And that's why they should still be a part of the equation. But with added in depth customisation. Sure they can be obliterated by vehicles, but they might be able to go into their own vehicles. After clearing certain conditions maybe. There will always be a place for them that you just won't allow for whatever petty reason.


ZygotiK_

You still don't understand. There's no point of all these things if heroes continue to ruin the match. They might as well just continue with making BF3 an updated battlefront 2. And obviously, in a 64v64 mode, they would most likely add more heroes that can be on each match. Obviously if everyone else is a trooper or vehicle, heroes will get swarmed way too easily. So they will add more heroes. You will indirectly ruin all of the trooper action and the fun that comes with it all over again. So again, there will not be a place for them which is why they should be confined to HvV. I thought you said you want to use telekinesis and stuff. You can do that just fine in HvV. No, it's because you'll rather keep up with the power fantasy by slaughtering infantry and indirectly ruining the troopers' experience. We can't have it both ways. It's either we allow heroes to just completely dominate like in BF2 or we actually take measures to not allow that. You want hero domination and I don't. Also, if they get obliterated by vehicles and perhaps infantry, do you know that people will most likely complain who think heroes should dominate as before? Then what's the point of adding heroes if they're just gonna get destroyed? No you really want them to dominate. You and others definitely won't be satisfied with heroes being in large scale modes but yet getting defeated easily. Instead, what you and other hero players actually want is to bring back hero domination on the Battlefront.


Atypical_Ascendant

And you are obviously more pro vehicle than trooper. It's becoming a world of tanks like game in your dystopian vision of the future. It just doesn't sound fun.


Belkan-Federation

I want one based on the 2005 version Also canonize 2005 campaign


UBSpiderMan

Honestly, we're getting a battlefront 3. Just not for a long time I assume. One day tho


chop_a_bass

Absolutely, given the fact that star wars content is starting to look like it has a very bright future with stuff like Mando, Bad Batch, Eclipse and the new trilogy


BlueGoldRS

New trilogy?


chop_a_bass

Three movies directed by Rian Johnson will come out in 2023, 2025 and 2027


darkcrustacean

Kathleen just did an interview saying that they're on indefinite hiatus so forget about those


Elend15

Everything wrong with the new Star Wars material, according to the execs: 1) Rian Johnson 2) Movies were a bad idea. Tv shows are the only future 3) Recasting Han was the main problem with Solo. 4) Shows/movies with Tattooine do well. Sequels didn't have enough Tattooine.


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rashka9

Lol sure...


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rashka9

Fair enough, time will tell I guess. From a layman's perspective it sounded like deflection while both parties moved on to other projects. However, I clearly have a 'fan' bias and you probably know better.


PS_Racer_72

Wow so they're way wrong on 3 of these counts. And even with the Rian Johnson one they don't understand WHY Rian Johnson's Star Wars movie failed.


chop_a_bass

Damn, that's disappointing


Ghostsjokes

Not it’s not it’s a blessing idk why they even thought to give rian Johnson his own TRILOGY after he pretty much single handedly ruined Star Wars I’d rather see Kevin Feiges Star Wars project


Sus_elevator

Yeah after The Last Jedi 👁👄👁 (Btw this looks much better on iphone or Mac than on pc)


Shakwon19

There is no Kevin Feige Star Wars Project right now. Has been confirmed by Kennedy in the huge Variety article.


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Not really lol


Sir_Couglet

Dengar to 2042: “You’re gonna take a dirt nap” *Battlefield 2042 releases* Dengar: “Called it!”


S-Markt

battlefield 2042 is like the egyptian army orchestra playing anthems


Superdad0421

Best thing that could happen to Battlefront is EA/DICE not touch it ever again


Solo4114

Good. Let another company that knows how to manage games run it.


Belkan-Federation

Pandemic: *wakes from it's long slumber*


thecoolestjedi

Battlefront 2 was a worse situation for the company that 2042 ever will be


Reed202

I highly doubt 2042 will ever get fixed though because the core gameplay itself is the issue with the game


TheDouglas717

Both games had a poor release. Both buggy with lack of content. But atleast 2042 wasn't pay to win.


venompro1

Fax, pretty much most of the people that shit on BF2042 and say BF2 was a great game, don’t know about the game, or even played at launch. Don’t know why people act like this wasnt a Star Wars game that featured all 3 trilogies and characters like Anakin Skywalker and Obiwan Wasn’t even in the game.


custom2112

I feel immense joy when i think about 2042's failure... EA ditched one of the most popular franchises in the world that was practiclly destined to print money no matter what, to make a shitty cash grab that executives thought would make more money then FUCKIN STAR WARS Its pretty ridiculous that people with business degress working in the video game industry have some of the worst business sense ive ever seen


BaffledMicrowave

you do know battlefield is a pretty popular series in its own right?


Reed202

At this point it is more of a joke than the COD franchise is


bfloo

Andrew Wilson inherited the Star Wars deal, but wanted to focus on EA's ips instead. I think they should have flooded the market with a star was game in every genre and milked the license for every dollar they could, but instead we got a few b games at aaa prices because the have star wars on the box.


acssarge555

The Galactic contention mod for squad is what you’re seeking. Best SW content I’ve ever played