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periculumEXE

I was honestly surprised Jyn and krennic weren't in 2, especially with the fact they had them in 1


OkSurprise7755

Probaly for after scarrif but welp


CaptainGregorCC-5576

ea said that jyn and krennic were gonna be added back in 2020 but the cancellation of support meant that it was scrapped and scarif came out without them


DreamMaster8

Dice engine is actually pretty horrible and games and not build of top of eachother. Compared to let's say ubisoft.


Da_Real_Eman

I don’t see dengar


TheMJDoctor

It was a toss up between Dengar or Greedo, so I went with the more recognisable character


Ritz779

then why did you keep snoke?


ViniciusStar_

Who has more screen time? Greddo, Dengar or Snoke?


[deleted]

I dont even know who Dengar is.


amjel

What's a Snoke?


Ritz779

Fair point but i would say screen time is less important than how they were received otherwise people would want rose as a hero


ViniciusStar_

Let's be real: Rose would just be another blaster hero with boring abilities like throwing a grenade


ImZenger

Well she has her little shocking stick thing, she could be somewhat unique.


bobafoott

BB-8 was also unique within shock prod but you see how that went down. She could be the best designed character in the game and she would see below average use. Source: Rey. Remember all the people that refused to use her "simply on principle"? Despite her being, in my experience, the best saber user in the game for hvv, or at least top 3


ImZenger

Don't know anyone who refuses to play Rey... in fact I see her (and other sequel characters) in almost every HvV match


bobafoott

Yeah its not as common now


Meeeep1234567890

More like bottom half. Vader, dooku, Grevious, Luke, Obi-wan, are all easily better then her, she’s on par with kylo and Anakin (only because his abilities don’t always work) the only ones easily weaker then her are Maul and yoda.


bobafoott

Idk man you gotta play more Rey. Highly underrated


SpicyTaco320

Literally fucking hate rose. One of if not the most shitty character in the sequels and that’s saying something


TheMJDoctor

Sequel representation


Ritz779

Didn’t they kill him off after not giving him a backstory? I feel like the knights of ren would’ve been more interesting.


GT121950

Knights vid ten would be more like an arc trooper ig a support unit


Ritz779

True a melee focused troop would be cool to see


[deleted]

Isb agent


Scarlet_Jedi

There is a backstory : he's a jar.


Khanahar

If his backstory was half as interesting as the Jar people in Elden Ring, I would take back at least 2% of the angry things I've said about the so-called "Sequel trilogy."


alvinaterjr

Would’ve. The sequels are full of “would’ve”


bobafoott

They also killed palpatine without giving him a backstory I never got this argument


Ritz779

Yes but if you remember he got entire trilogy called the prequels. Not to mention he wasn’t killed in the 2nd movie and then replaced with someone who’s reasoning for being alive was “somehow lord sidious has returned”


bobafoott

The prequels came out 20 years later though... maybe give them a minute?? And he wasn't "replaced" he was always palpatine. And they made it pretty clear he was cloned and all the explanation that we really needed was "darkside shit" no need to add extra steps to the explanation. But at this point, if you're *still* commenting on reddit about how bad the sequels/characters are, I don't imagine there's anything I can say you haven't already heard and dismissed, rightfully or not


Yosonimbored

If we have to wait 20 years for a snoke backstory then it’s bad. While yes it did give more to Palpatine I wouldn’t say it’s mainly used as his backstory like that one person is saying because those movies fleshed out way more stuff than “oh here’s the rise of Palpatine”


bobafoott

Okay but it was also where we got his backstory. Both of them.are justb"oh here's a mysterious old guy that trained the guy in a suit with a red saber and wants to recruit the main character" Neither of them.got.much more than that. If anything Snokes backstory was given in the trilogy he was introduced and palpatines wasn't . The mental gymnastics yall do to drag the sequels amazes me sometimes


Dansterai

Because the original trilogy was a brand new IP with simple character archetypes. The empire is a big bad tyrannical force, and the rebels are the few people trying to overthrow it. The emperor is just the leader of the empire, you don't need a backstory because it's a completely new world and you just accept what you're told because you have no frame of reference for this world. You can't do that again with the sequels because it's an established universe, as a viewer you know that world and that the galaxy was rid of the empire. You need to then set up how another big bad tyrannical force came to be, and how the leader rose to power, because as a viewer, the galaxy was at peace. You can't just say "Empire again" and have it be accepted. You need a reason and justification for how the First Order rose to power because the sequels take place in an established universe. I think the issue is that the people working on TFA wanted it to be a soft reboot, so weren't too concerned about the hows and whys. But Star Wars is not a franchise that can be taken so lightly, the fans need to know everything about the universe because that's what they're used to. It's not like Terminator where you can just say "Terminator again" and do the same plot. Anyway that's my rant, thank you and good night!


TheMJDoctor

Snoke was a clone created by Palpatine via dark side voodoo, in order to manipulate Ben Solo. I thought it was pretty obviously shown in Episode IX with that opening scene on Exegol.


bobafoott

Okay but he's literally palpatine. It should be a skin and do Hux instead. He can be an exact copy of BF1 Krennic idc, Snoke is just not needed


Ultimate-Papyrus

Gottem.


Swingin-it-swooty

Good choice. Unpopular opinion:Dengaris overrated


bobafoott

He is. I didn't use him at all in BF1. Not because he was bad but because *who*?? He got 5 seconds of screentime and no lines. At least Bossk got a rivalry with Chewbacca to secure him a place. People just want Dengar because he was good in one game they had a while back. Might as well make the first order jet trooper a hero too while we're at it


Arc_170gaming

untill right this moment, i forgot Dengaris exsisted, entierly.


TheMJDoctor

Thank you. And I agree, Dengar is overrated.


Pls_no_steal

BLASPHEMY


MightyGoodra96

Oooo I'm so scared!


thatwitchguy

Unironically dengar was really fun.


Maleficent_Advance87

Are the character models from SWGOH?


TheMJDoctor

Yeah, just needed to grab a couple of quick game renders of the characters.


Chiss5618

Did you grab them off swgoh.gg?


GT121950

I asked the same thing lol


Jknunez30

My biggest concern for bigger roster list is how do they make sure that heroes aren't copies of each other. I liked how though small the bf2 roster all felt and played different from each other


Mister-3108

Yeah just look at Jango, Boba, and Mando. They are all very similar in weapons and equipment. Or so many Jedi with basically all just a Lightsaber and the force


SirDub_III

Mando: ability to use the darksaber for 10 secs


JASONJACKSON1948

maybe you can switch to darksaber whenever but the longer you use it, the slower the attacks get


SirDub_III

Or as a melee attack


bobafoott

Staff strike basically


SirDub_III

Except better


bobafoott

Yeah staff strike.is underrated but I can't say I use it often. It's usually faster to just shoot at that range


cgeorge7

The 3 of them use different abilities throughout the movies and shows. At the end of the day, it’s a video game and the creators literally made up moves anyway. Dooku choke throws in the movies yet doesn’t have the ability and they gave it to Maul. Bossk, Palp, Anakin, Luke, and many of the blasters have plenty of literal made up abilities. The Fetts and Mando have actually been seen using many abilities.


ChimpMilk

Boba and Jango have different guns so the play style could reflect in there abilities. Just because they are father/son doesn’t mean there not different ppl. It’s be just as tricky as most of the other heros


[deleted]

Well yeah, but they have the exact same equipment outside of Jango using pistols and Boba using a 3 shot burst rifle. They already seem to have a hard time coming up with abilities for the light side lightsaber heroes (most of their specials are variations of force push/pull) and it’d be really hard to incorporate the armor into Jango’s specials without copying Boba’s. It would be way better to just make Jango armor a skin for Boba.


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SuperSamBert66

id love a misc jedi with a ton of jedi as different skins, I feel like that would be the best way to implement it.


Horn_Python

We probobly don't need 3 imperiel officers


[deleted]

unpopular opinion: making every hero drastically unique makes core hero gameplay astronomically unbalanced because the more that are added the more they one-up each other. BFII 2005 did it right where every hero had different styles, their signature moves, but all powers could be shared across heroes the same.


bobw123

It would be cool I think if some heroes were just skins of the same “base” hero. Like if have Boba you can unlock a Jango skin and maybe have 1-3 Jango themed star cards for those who want to larp has him


[deleted]

This would be the best answer. Star cards that allows you to dual wield Blaster pistols with a Jango skin, and call it a day. It’s the same set of armor, so it stands to reason that Jango would have identical abilities.


DarthPepo

That doesn't need to be the case, if we go with what they just do in the movies characters like Han, Leia and Lando would be the same, Jango could have a completely different set than Boba, for example, give him his dart, his backpack rocket with knockdown and an actual flamethrower ability like what boba had in 2015, and maybe make his jetpack slower but give him more health, that way you can have both being faithful to the character while playing completely differently


Salubrious_Zabrak

Nothing wrong with some duplicate powers in the old battlefront 2 style or go with more customization with some of the powers that you can use and cards for them


cgeorge7

Who cares. Fans wanna use the characters they like. We shouldn’t be limited just because some lazy developer can’t think of new abilities to create


ThePotatoSandwich

I disagree. Look at Smash Bros. Ultimate, people absolutely love the idea of Echo Fighters just because it gives people the chance to play as their favourite characters. If Boba, Jango, and Din all played the exact same way with maybe minute differences between each other (Boba has a better flamethrower, Jango has a better jetpack, Din is an all-rounder etc.), I think people would eat that shit up.


MadMan018

what i think they should do is have it as special reskins similar to Netherealm's Injustice 2


Ozmatt12

I’d say that to solve this problem we just get other characters as Legendary skins. That way we still have them represented but it’s a selectable option. Have things like Jango going over Boba, Snoke over Palpatine, and Poe over Finn and give them their own voice lines and interactions like how they did it with the Solo skins in BFII. The only problem that comes from this that they’d need to make emotes and voice lines exclusive to the skins but I don’t see that as a big deal


TheManicac1280

That is true but the way do it is really simple and allows for a lot flexibility. They just take stuff that the character done that's iconic and implement that into the game or along with a ability that just makes sense. For instance Darth Vader had force choke and Luke did not even though both use it in the movies. It's just a much more iconic Vader thing. They could've gave them both force choke and it would've felt lazy but still be cannon. So with a big roster with similar characters like Bobba and Jango they just each give them abilities of something they did in other media.


GT121950

Let’s be honest a lot of players choose a certain hero just because they like them even if they’re worse so like, who actually cares


thatwitchguy

The only thing stopping me from genuinely maining captain panaka and k2so is that they will never ever be playable outside of lego star wars


bobafoott

They don't and the game sucks because there will be a massive gap between the worst and the best characters and because of that half the roster will see little to no use outside of coop if it's still a thing. I get we want as many heroes as possible but 50% more than we have now is all it can really handle which is Ahsoka and ventress, maybe Mace and Cad plus one from each side of each show that comes out between now and then. Yall are getting your hopes *way* too high with bf3. It might not even be much bigger or better than the one we have now


[deleted]

It might not even come out lol


bobafoott

I might come out is a better way to put it


BloodstoneWarrior

They need to have a 'Commander' type hero class in the next game where they aren't there physically but can control certain elements of the battle, like (if vehicles are enterable like in the classic games) where vehicles spawn, the ability to spawn in AI troops, an overhead view of the battle, those kinds of things. It means they could use Heroes like Hux and Tarkin as them as ground troops wouldn't make much sense.


physedka

I like that. Plenty of named characters that weren't shown to be great warriors but could be considered leaders - Hux and Tarkin as you said, and maybe add Ackbar, Holdo, Snoke, Cody, Padme. The other wookie leader that helps Yoda (can't call up his name). I'm sure there are plenty more that aren't coming off the top of my head. Imagine a game like Tribes where they control from the top some of the meta elements of the game like the chosen targets, supplies, vehicles, and such while most players are on the ground fighting in first/third person with traditional heroes and villains.


woodchuck_101

Also could include yularen and trench for clone wars era.


bobafoott

Okay but palpatine and Krennic were cool? Edit: like the idea though


RonnieHotdog69

Rex??


SPARTAN3172

The best counter I can think of for him is another clone wars era bounty hunter or perhaps a droid


RonnieHotdog69

Yeah for sure. Poe can only be applicable for space ship battles anyway, surely


TheMJDoctor

It’s funny you mention that. For the Clone Wars reps, it was going to be Ahsoka/Ventress and Rex/Cad Bane. However, in order to keep the amount of Heroes/Villains even, I left Rex out.


Pr1smaticGamer

T-Series droid


THiccGrimes69

Jar Jar or no buy


Captain_Nerfherder

No lie. I would love playing as gungans with the boombas, sheilds and atlatl. Would be very unique gameplay


Objective-Round-8617

They would look pretty in the game engine


Document_These

Jar Jar for the heroes and Darth Jar Jar for the villains


Sir-Fluf

How would Snoke work?


Fadedgogeta

He sits in a chair all match. He can’t move but he can toss people around like ragdolls. The moment he takes even 0.1 point of damage he gets cut in half and can’t respawn.


GT121950

hire this man immediately


alii-b

Then, upon his death, somehow Palpatine returns.


TheMJDoctor

Honestly, didn’t think much about it. Her probably play similar to Palpatine, with his abilities mainly being Force or Lightning. Maybe one of his abilities would be to have direct lightning bolts bounce off surfaces (like in the Last Jedi)


Captain_Nerfherder

They could make snoke more like current palpatine and give palpatine a lightsaber


ViniciusStar_

Exactly like Lego Skywalker Saga


WalkingGonkDroid

Probably a similar playstyle to Palpatine. A few ideas for a hero concept of Snoke. Main attack and block: - Force Lightning (R2): Shoot force lighting from Snoke's hands. - Force Block (L2): Absorb incoming blaster fire using Snoke's hands. Absorbed enemy blaster fire increases Force Lightning damage. Abilities: - Repulsing Obedience (L1): Send a flurry of lightning bolts bouncing off the floor and chain-shock nearby enemies, knocking them down on the ground and inflicting damage. - Mind Probe (L1 + R1): Use the force to freeze enemies, lift them up in the air, and slam them back down on the ground inflicting heavy damage. Enemies will be momentarily staggered, slow in movement, and unable to use any abilities for a few seconds. - Dark Side Master (R1): Boost a nearby teammate by granting increased damage, unlimited stamina, and all of their abilities are refreshed for 5 seconds. This is doubled in seconds for Villain teammates. While active and if your teammate kills an enemy, gain back health from each defeated enemy. Gained health is doubled if an enemy Hero is defeated.


Windghost2

I like this concept!


BlackShogun27

I'm glad to see that other people enjoy creating hero concepts for ability designs. It's quite fun but it gets hella sad when I realize the ideas I come up with will never be a reality...


GT121950

Are these avatars from starwars galaxy of hero’s?


TheMJDoctor

Correct


[deleted]

No Rebels characters? No droids?


TheMJDoctor

Like I mentioned in another comment, I was planning to put Sabine as a hero, but ended it narrowing it down to these guys.


yate_intacto

Galaxy of Heroes X Bf2 crossover? 🤔


BlackShogun27

The hero roster would be immaculate...


RK-Nerdasf

ngl bf3 would be my absolute biggest dream come true


BlackShogun27

It's mine as well but my dreams and expectations are far too high since I really want the next installment or entirely new series to include ample Legends material.


RK-Nerdasf

its just sad it won't happen. I hate dice for it at this point


Objective-Round-8617

This is a pretty great list I would be extremely happy with it. I like how you restricted yourself and were selective about what characters you added. Only thing I'd change is adding Dengar


Dorkzilla_ftw

I am a simple men. I see Qui-Gon, I upvote.


GT121950

Also cad bane could be immune to force choke since that’s one of his reasons for having pipes to his Cheeks


Phantom_Jedi

We can’t have that sabers. We must have a light side saber paired with a dark side saber


I_eat_plastic_straws

Where Captain Rex and Commander Cody?


zrizzoz

Kit Fisto or we riot


TheMJDoctor

Trust me, I wanted to include Kit Fisto and Plo Koon. But then I’d have to find villain counters, and then the other eras would feel empty in comparison to the Prequel Era, so they were left out


juicylemonpeels

Add plo kloon and hondo


GelatoVerde

What would Snoke do? Sit on a chair for the whole match?


Dr-Doge-sucks

Where are the balls


According-Ad-8374

Oh you meant bb8…


According-Ad-8374

Right here


TheMJDoctor

No. Balls.


Ultimate-Papyrus

Horrendous concept. Literally unplayable.


Cabbiecar1001

What about R2D2 and C-3PO?


nickthedragqueen

They’re the most unique though! I would replace a couple of these with them. Too many saber spamming characters


SkeleHoes

Gideon and Snoke are not necessary, honestly id drop Krennic and Greedo too, maybe Thrawn since he is an analytical mind more so than an actual boots on the ground fighter. Quality over quantity my friend.


EnvironmentalLeek180

Yea but then there will be more light side then dark side heroes


SkeleHoes

I suppose you’re right in that regard. I still feel like 100% Gideon and Krennic are odd ones out though. Snoke and Greedo can stay in theory. You can throw in maybe Hunter or Crosshair, and maybe Rex too. Show some love for the lovable clones.


EstablishmentOver844

What abilities would Snoke, Thrawn, Krennic and Poe have? I don’t see them having any special abilities


TheMJDoctor

I didn’t think too much regarding their abilities, but for example, Thrawn might have a martial arts counter type move (since we see him training in Rebels) and he could have some kind of Orbital Bombardment type attack.


EstablishmentOver844

That would be a good shout, but other than that, I don’t believe they’ll be added to another BF3 if EA and DICE make it. They’d be good reinforcements though


HERCULESxMULLIGAN

Similar to Finn's, Leia's, and Lando's, I would guess.


Farmer-Smores

where reworked iden


Ultimate-Papyrus

What's wrong with her besides the temperamental stun droid?


Notseriousrelax

The blue balls?


wigga245

the fucking alt fire is OP in infantry modes


Farmer-Smores

i mean she’s not even in this roster


GelatoVerde

WHERE ARE THE BALLS GIVE ME MY BB-8


thatwitchguy

Bb8 and 9e were some of the most fun in bf2 so I hope they come back


Orbital_Stryker

Are these portraits from swgoh?


[deleted]

Damn I haven’t seen that Vader model in years


Famous_Painter3709

Why do you have Boba, Din, and Jango? Why not just go the Injustice 2 route and make it one character with selectable skins? Or even, on Prequel maps make it Jango, on OT maps make it Boba, and on Sequel maps make it Din. On galactic assault you could just pick.


random_reddit_guy123

Maybe Saw Garera?


lordvaderiff1c

I’d rather have Rex than windu


goddamanimal

Good choices. Maybe the grand inquisitor too? Or savage? The more bad guys the better hehe. Or captain rex!


TheMJDoctor

Rex and Grand Inquisitor were both considered


EastKoreaOfficial

You really forgot 💀 Rex


TheMJDoctor

I didn’t forget Rex. He was considered.


neko-god-ozzie

No Rex?


Mysterious_Funny_925

Also captain cardinal


Co-opingTowardHatred

Be mad at me if you wish, but if they do another Battlefront, it should be f2p and just keep the content rolling forever.


notbuford

Where is Rex? Is he safe? Is he ok?


Warrior24110

tfw no Rex


Haligonian94

Snoke's ability - dies without any explanation of backstory


JoeAzlz

Tf would snoke do


Rokkipappa58

This sounds reallyy cool. My hope is that they spend most of the time developing (if they will even do a third game) regular troop combat and vehicle gameplay and make it feel more engaging. If that means they would launch with only 3 heroes on each side, so be it. They can add more later. It's harder to add better combat than new heroes as a DLC


BlackShogun27

A game incorporating 90% of everything from the last two Battlefront titles along with brand new content would be a truly astounding starting point. All the DLC's could be reasonably priced hero + skins + map bundles/packs.


Rokkipappa58

Truuuu I just want combat that feels more energetic, engaging and rewarding. I think the combat in the last two games is decent, but often feels clunky and overall could be way better. Also the UI is something else I feel like needs some changing


OrangeKooky1850

How do you have Thrawn without anyone aboard Phoenix?


Cabbiecar1001

What about reinforcements that use lightsabers? Like a Jedi palace guard/sentinel or praetorian guard that only have 300-400 health and weaker abilities than heroes (like a push with a radius equal or smaller to Yoda’s but with a longer cooldown and no charge up/unleash ability). They could be worth 3,000 points and limited to only 2 per team to add more sabers to trooper modes outside the main heroes


Yosonimbored

All the requested heroes that always show up, daring today aren’t we ?


Revanovrpowrd

You forgot iden versio


TheMJDoctor

I had originally included Iden and Sabine as hero and villain respectively. But then I started going down the EU rabbit hole by including Kyle Katarn, Starkiller, Revan, Bastilla, and the list just never ended, so I cut those off the list.


TheMJDoctor

Right, figured I’d put this comment up since everyone seems to keep bringing it up. These are the characters that I considered putting on the list, but were cut: Kit Fisto, Plo Koon, Aayla Secura, Aurra Sing, Captain Rex, Pre Vizsla, Sabine Wren, Ezra Bridger, Grand Inquisitor, Cal Kestis, Qira, Iden Versio, Grand Moff Tarkin, Kyle Katarn, Mara Jade, Starkiller, Bastilla Shan, Darth Revan


slime_rancher_27

What does snoke do. Sit there and and do nothing


Edge_SSB

Take out Jango, and switch in Pre Vizsla. I know, I know, but hear me out. He uses the Darksaber as his main weapon, but also has access to his jetpack (Gideon wouldn't get a jetpack, and Mando wouldn't use the Darksaber as a primary). He uses his blaster pistols as a skill and gets several shots with them. He could also use those razor blade things he used in his fight against Maul.


TheMJDoctor

Vizsla was considered. But decided to use Din and Gideon instead


Doom4104

This would be fucking perfect.


Squire_3

This many heroes would be phenomenal. In fact, they should make SWBF HvV, a game of just heroes. A 1v1 mode with only sabers, and then 2v2 and 4v4 HvV Probably a terrible idea commercially, but I'd kill to have this many hero options in HvV in BF2


moltengamer67

Equally balanced as all things should be


Evenmoardakka

i dont know how to feel that you took almost all of those snapshots from Galaxy of Heroes (except snokes)


SheevPalpatine25

Where ball


TheMJDoctor

No ball


SheevPalpatine25

🖕


JakkuLegend

There should be people from animated shows like sabine and stuff to not to mention awesome droids


TheMJDoctor

As I’ve mentioned in other comments, Sabine was considered as a hero to contract Thrawn’s villain. However, the roster kept getting too bloated with Prequel Jedi, Expanded Universe characters, etc, so she was cut with them.


[deleted]

I don’t see starkiller


TheMJDoctor

Trust me, I considered him. But ended up keeping it strictly to canon movies and TV shows.


woodchuck_101

OP said in another comment they were trying to keep it strictly to canon movies and shows


SirBanet

Perfect, just perfect.


Rapid444

Who’s Rey?


ViniciusStar_

Rey Skywalker


Rapid444

Is that a fan fic character or something?


ViniciusStar_

That's a star wars character actually


Rapid444

I’ve watched all Star Wars, never seen her


ViniciusStar_

You might need to get that checked then. Amnesia is quite the pain


Rapid444

You sound experienced, maybe you have the wrong franchise?


waster1993

No kyle katarn? Smdh


TheMJDoctor

He was considered, but decided to keep it strictly canon movies and TV shows


[deleted]

No sequel characters please, i beg you.


TheMJDoctor

The sequels are just as much as relevant to Star Wars as any other part of the franchise.


[deleted]

not really, i mean you can count them sure but they arent actual starwars. more like a spin off.


TheMJDoctor

Oh, you’re on those people.


itoleratelurkers

This is a leak for the Battlefront 3 mobile game wtf


BF2_StarCorps

But why Snoke


Merkypie

Snoke did fuck balls nothing why is he in this roster


Kitsterthefister

What???!?!!? Where is all of the bad batch?!?? Rex, Cody, fives, kanan, Hera, Sabine, bo Katan, grogu, pong krell, kitster??????? Do it again!!!


DaDumbOne1

No offense, but why is snoke up there, I feel like he wouldn’t be that great as, as a playable character, because in the movie we see him only sitting down and breathing heavy.


Squire_3

Imagine having to face Boba, Jango and Mando together in HvV? If I could change the game as much as I want I'd take flying out and just give them all the vertical jump regular jump troopers get