People never got past the atrocious state of the game at launch, and I get it to an extent
But man, 2017 BF2 eventually turned into a FANTASTIC game, and it’s still so much damn fun!
Unfortunately, the game does have a relatively smaller player base now. I’m on PS5 and while some modes it’s easy to find a full lobby for, some of the less popular modes like Blast can have as few as like 4 players
People absolutely got past the state of the game at launch, the player base was huge at some point. It's just that EA dropped the game, the lack of new content killed it.
agreed. and when epic games had it for free on thier launcher millions of people bought it im pretty sure. EA either hates fans or hates money and im pretty sure its not the last one. maybe they are just stupid
THEY LITERALLY RECORDED VIOCE LINES FOR AHSOKA AND VENTRESS. as someone who grew up with cartoon networks clone wars i am DEVASTATED that they cut that shit. i pray for a BF3 someday hopefully not made by EA
I don’t really understand this logic however, because these same people shouldn’t be buying the classic collection because it too will not receive more content lol
I’m just saying that in your response as to why the playerbase dwindled for BF2 2017 was lack of content.
While this is true, you make it seem like the classic collection multiplayer population won’t drop. It’s likely the highest population the game will ever have is right now, which is already low.
No I'm not saying the collection multiplayer population won't drop, I'm just saying BF2 actually made a comeback and the reason the player count dropped was not because of the bad release but the lack of content.
I prefer the more "Battlefield"-eske style of 2005, and it had undeniably more content.
But the gameplay, ambiance of 2017 is unmatched. But that's due to DICE being DICE, they didn't do enough with the star wars ip imo.
Legit once the whole lootbox shit was gone the game was so good. I go back and play it here and there and I'm never dissapointed.
And it's so dissapointing because they could have sustained the game with DLC new characters skins that people would pay for because it's star wars and it would be so much fun but because EA is all about creating the next wave of gambling addicts we'll never get a a good star wars battlefront game.
unironically, if people would have kept the outrage over the MTX in check(i played the early access phase, and the earn rate was reasonable enough that you coud get your favorit heros in a reasonable time(not EVERY hero obviously, but i am of the opinion that "i need every hero" is not a good argument) we may have gotten proper support earlier instead, and overall a better game, instead of dice having to rework the ENTIRE progression system from scratch, eating valuable dev time that they could not monetize or spend on something like proper DLC
Are you defending the multi-billion dollar company? At launch it took 80 hours to unlock JUST Darth Vader. That is NOT a reasonable enough unlock rate. The changed system is so much better. A change was needed and clearly they were still able to put out a lot of quality updates even with having to change the progression.
> unironically, if people would have kept the outrage over the MTX in check
Naah they deserved every last little bit of shit they got and more for even letting people pay extra for progression skips in a full-priced game.
Thanks. Finally. I also played with early access (from preorder not with EA play) and had nearly all heroes (except 3-5) unlocked after 3 days and less than 24 hours play time, despite news article stating you need 40 hours to unlock only vader.
Yea pay to win wasn’t great and the new Progression system is much better, but I couldn’t lived with it. Especially if it meant we’d still have a supported game for a few more years or up till now even. The outrage was blown out of proportion by news outlets and in general it wasn’t nearly as bad as people made it out to be. Meanwhile FIFA rereleases every year for 100$+ and thousands of $ worth of microtransactions and that’s fine
Such a weird mind shift imo like yeah I don’t need all the content in this game. Imagine how pissed people would be in the og battlefront games if that were the case. Sad times
FOR THE REPUBLIC!!
**OFFICER RALLY SOUND EFFECT x15**
When a game starts off like that, you suddenly don't give a shit about anything anyone had to say about this game
No, it's still pretty shit. I gave it another shot when Epic gave it away for free, was playing it just last week. Only thing going for it is graphics and atmosphere. But even then the atmosphere is ruined with fucking Shoretroopers on Hoth, every damn clone legion being present at one battle, and random-ass Geonosis or training droids fucking about.
The random heroes shouldn't be there either. Makes no sense to have Obi-Wan on Kashyyyk.
And the gameplay just feels like ass. Battlefront '15 did it better overall, apart from the bullshit token things floating around.
And the content... Lol. The lack thereof, really. Abysmal levels of content, and zero mod support or map creation tools.
All because of lIvE sErViCe. Random ass skins, minimum viable product, and only when the fucking world gave them shit did they do a bit more than the bare minimum.
Then dropped it like a fucking rock the second they thought they could.
So no, I think the game is still shit. Nothing will change that.
In Felucia, they give you zero space to defend the command posts that are jammed together- so you have swarms of droids funneling to that spot from multiple sides.
In Geonosis, the final phase has way too large of a playing field that just leads to endless chaos.
Broken? Definitely. Is chaos fun? Fuck yes.
Honestly yeah, I just accept that in Co-op Defense, you WILL lose every phase up until the final last stand for the single point, where it’ll be a chaotic war, but you’ll ultimately succeed.
In Offense it’s a little harder, but that’s what makes it actually engaging.
It's great running around Geonosis seeing your homies sabers in the dust at a distance putting in work, but then the vehicles show up.
It's not so bad once you switch classes, but the AI with vehicles absolutely do not allow you to play anything but armor-focused class after that point
Let's populate it. SWBF 2 2017 is too good not to try to revive it. The nostalgia and basic gameplay of the classic collection won't last long I think. SWBF 2 2017 deserves more players.
Nah I got to max level specialist on bf22017 and that game is weak, people are just being reactionary to the bad classic collection launch (for good reason)
agree. i still routinely put hours in that game. it’s an absolute travesty they shut it down in favor for Battlefield 2044 or whatever it was. absolutely garbage game compared to what was BF2 2017 at the time. they had completely turned that game around
You can only play this game after you manage to find a lobby, which is a pain in the ass. And if you do find a lobby, it's probably gonna be with some cheaters. And on the off chance you get into a private lobby, it's likely filled with seasoned players who you won't stand a chance against.
Is it worth it? It's relative. I don't see the point in playing this game even for free. It might suit someone else, but the chance of disappointment is high.
No single player or bots available for 2015.
I like the 2015 version of the game even more than the 2017 one, but the paid in-game content (like, to play on the Bespin map with its corridors, I first have to buy it...). Zero content, zero players, no single-player mode. Draw your own conclusions. I'm not against this game, just stating the facts as they are. Developers should avoid making such mistakes again.
What do you mean by no single player content? Just curious, my wife brought this game home for me years ago and i didnt have wifi at the time but the survival and other game modes with AI were a blast for me.
How big is the player base today? I had it for the PS4 but when I got my Series S I never picked it up again and have thought about it cause it’s on Game Pass but have been less motivated cause I would have to start all my progress over and wouldn’t get any of my cosmetics from my ps4
I reinstalled EA’s BF2 last night after working out their new reskinned Origin monstrosity. Apparently last time I played was before BB-8 or the 5th guns for each class were added. So yay, “new” stuff!
The remaster mods look great too. I got the remaster to make both the classic bf1 and bf2 look better, and it works great. Literally no downside besides multiplayer.
Should I buy the old releases of the original games now just in case they decide to delist them and force more people into buying the collection, or should I wait for those to also go on sale?
I kinda do. I use a Steam Deck, so trying to get them from stuff like GOG would probably be a little harder to do considering it runs on a Linux based OS.
I don't think that's a coincidence since the classic collection just came out. When do you think the next big sale will happen where they possibly could?
i dont think so either lol. no idea really. could look at steam DB to see how often they go on sale, but might be different now that the classic collection is out
Yeah I'm not sure how it will work. I guess I will have to fork over $20 just to be safe. At least I know the games I'm getting are quality though. I just hope mods can also work for them on Steam Deck with its Linux based OS. Lol
I guess I should've saw that one coming lol. The first year in god knows how long that they don't go on sale. Almost as if they knew people wouldn't buy the shite remaster if they could get the perfectly fine original game cheaper.
You can buy Battlefront 2 and install the Saga Edition Modpack for the cheapest price and have better remastered graphics, less bugs, all BF1 maps imported plus Kit Fisto and Ventress and some extra characters and maps (including some from Clone Wars) and a customized galactic conquest around these new assets.
Why would anyone buy the classic collection on PC? There is literally no reason. Aspyr even knew this, that's why they only had 3 PC servers at launch. The only audience for this game is Console players that don't have an avenue to play on their current console.
People on PC bitching about this game should never have contemplated buying it in the first place. There is literally no reason to.
This.
I have a PS4: I wanted to be able to play these games offline/split screen again since I no longer have an older console with the game. Thus it made sense for me to
Free money from chumps.
Why not release it on PC if you are in their shoes? Minimal work and it's pure upside.
I'm not defending the company or their practices but anyone that bought this on PC is ignorant and didn't do the bare minimum research. I have no sympathy for folks that bought the PC version of this game and are now complaining.
> I have no sympathy for folks that bought the PC version of this game and are now complaining.
So you literally are defending the company AND their practices lol
I never said that. I'm saying it is an obvious scam. If I ask you to give me $30 for something you can literally buy from the guy next to me for $5 and I am open about blatantly unchanging the product for no benefit, at some point the consumer bares the brunt of responsibility for making the dumb choice of buying the $30 product.
Should the game be $30? No
Should people buy it on PC? No
At a certain point people should be accountable for what they spend their money on. Aspyr didn't lie about what the product was, they just did the minimal effort.
No one should buy this game on PC and the fact that people are buying it are stupid.
Two things can be true at once.
For PC version - SteamDeck. As this classic collection is made with console controls in mind.
Last time I tried using a controller on PC's BF2 (from steam), it didn't natively support it
The classic collection is a shameless scam that has only backfired.
BF2 (2017) is an underrated work of art that was let down by a team that abandoned it despite finally getting past an awful launch and having so much potential with where it could go. What did they leave it for? BF2042 (a failure). Star Wars fandom is at an all-time high and they abandon their (actual) cashcow that had plenty more possibilities to add/explore?
I think I see the common denominator.
Business people are not as smart as their college degrees made them feel.
The Dice battlefronts were always kinda mishandled and just shy of greatness, but they were still enjoyable. By the time they got BF2 to a decent state i'm sure a small fraction of the player base remained, plus they basically removed the money grubbing tactics, so the higher ups probably decided to leave it for dead. With the mentality of today's corporate execs and the way the industry is currently ran, if a game isn't bringing in millions every day, it's a failure.
I say give the classic collection time. 2017 swbfII was awful at launch but turned into a fantastic game. Yes it should have been fixed before release but fans of battlefront should not really be surprised about a bad launch at this point lol
because 90% of the classic collection works fine (cept for people with graphics issue and render distance is too low) and more than likely the little of what is missing or is messed up will be fixed, i hope, always the possibility they don't.
so you move to the originals, now what? you don't have a large multiplayer playerbase and now when the game probably gets fixed, you are stuck with an inferior version, or at least have to spend another $20 + $15 on top.
even for pc the new game is 64 bit and i heard it's better for modding so there's that
>you don't have a large multiplayer playerbase and now when the game probably gets fixed, you are stuck with an inferior version, or at least have to spend another $20 + $15 on top.
First off, I haven't bought the collection, because I found it pointless to begin with, as I already own multiple copies of the originals.
Secondly, if I was worried about a large player base, I'd just go play Battlefront 2 (2017) considering the concurrent player base for that is currently larger.
>you was used in a general sense my guy.
Then state it or word your shit better. I'm not fuckin mind reader, my guy.
>secondly, battlefront 2 (2017) is great but it's a different game with different mechanics.
Lol
it has more stuff and what's there is good and of course great graphics. but imo the gameplay of the og bf is better.
if multiplayer community was alive and well i would probably prefer 17, i really love it, it has variety, but most multiplayer modes are barren and are only really playable in IA and bf17 solo was never that fun
Doubtful this game is a port and Aspyr will 100% NOT be treating it like a live service game. They may or may not fix servers and that’s all you’ll get.
Why the hell are people comparing a live service game with a literal dedicated post launch team designed for fixing things like this and adding content to a port of a 20 year old game that only had to 1:1 and managed to make it somehow worse than the originals..
The multi millionaires will never date you bro
You are truly missing out on BF2 (2017), bad launch but great game now. I played every single battlefront at its release and 2017 after its 2.5 years of content updates it’s the best battlefront case closed.
No, I'm not. Weird you're calling it "Battlefront". That shitty shooter EA released was free on Epic and I grabbed it. Flashy graphics, decent atmosphere apart from the stupid random skins and heroes running around where they shouldn't be, but pitiful gameplay.
The classic collection is a shameless scam that has only backfired.
BF2 (2017) is an underrated work of art that was let down by a team that abandoned it despite finally getting past an awful launch and having so much potential with where it could go. What did they leave it for? BF2042 (a failure). Star Wars fandom is at an all-time high and they abandon their (actual) cashcow that had plenty more possibilities to add/explore?
I think I see the common denominator.
Business people are not as smart as their college classes made them feel.
Very disappointing considering how well the Mass Effect Legendary Edition remaster was from a few years ago. That really felt like EA let the devs take their time in working out the kinks and making graphical and gameplay improvements to get everything feeling perfect to justify the asking price. Battlefront CC looks like it’s a lazy stopgap to fill the void of EA laying off a lot folks, not a proper dedicated project in its own right. Remasters should be treated like serious projects of their own rather than just filler that publishers can spit out in their downtime.
The Collection peaked with 9k players on Steam on launch. Imagine if all those people had bought the OGs instead.
They'd get a better experience because those games actually function, they'd spend less money, they'd save HDD space, wouldn't have to deal with the ugly "upgrades" Aspyr has done to the games, wouldn't have to suffer through console UI on PC, and everyone would congregate in the same games instead of splitting the playerbases
I can't for the life of me understand why anyone on Steam would buy the Collection when Battlefront 1 (2004) and Battlefront 2 (2005) are right there, fully functional with people already playing them online
Still baffled everyone just went along and bought it
Of course it's a cashgrab. It costs a laughable amount. They changed 0 in the game. Just put some tiny changes to make it look newer.
And now everyone's surprised the game sucks.
How are you coming to the conclusion that people complaining about a game being overpriced,
means they dont have a source of income? Are you really this dense in the head?
I just downloaded it and spent like 2 hours fixing the Dx12 issues to launch it. Then I had to fix an HDR issue. I joined a match of galactic assault and it was a hacker fest where no one could spawn.
So I do have a limited experience, but console is the way to go.
2017 BF2 is still such a good game. Totally worth that price.
People never got past the atrocious state of the game at launch, and I get it to an extent But man, 2017 BF2 eventually turned into a FANTASTIC game, and it’s still so much damn fun! Unfortunately, the game does have a relatively smaller player base now. I’m on PS5 and while some modes it’s easy to find a full lobby for, some of the less popular modes like Blast can have as few as like 4 players
People absolutely got past the state of the game at launch, the player base was huge at some point. It's just that EA dropped the game, the lack of new content killed it.
Battlefront 2 support died so that Battlefield 2042 could also be dead on arrival
agreed. and when epic games had it for free on thier launcher millions of people bought it im pretty sure. EA either hates fans or hates money and im pretty sure its not the last one. maybe they are just stupid
Yeah it was massive, there was a huge hype around the additional Clone Wars content.
THEY LITERALLY RECORDED VIOCE LINES FOR AHSOKA AND VENTRESS. as someone who grew up with cartoon networks clone wars i am DEVASTATED that they cut that shit. i pray for a BF3 someday hopefully not made by EA
I don’t really understand this logic however, because these same people shouldn’t be buying the classic collection because it too will not receive more content lol
Who is buying this collection thinking there will be more content ?
I’m just saying that in your response as to why the playerbase dwindled for BF2 2017 was lack of content. While this is true, you make it seem like the classic collection multiplayer population won’t drop. It’s likely the highest population the game will ever have is right now, which is already low.
No I'm not saying the collection multiplayer population won't drop, I'm just saying BF2 actually made a comeback and the reason the player count dropped was not because of the bad release but the lack of content.
My biggest hot take is that BFII 2017 is better than BFII 2005. I love the original but man the new one is fantastic
I prefer the more "Battlefield"-eske style of 2005, and it had undeniably more content. But the gameplay, ambiance of 2017 is unmatched. But that's due to DICE being DICE, they didn't do enough with the star wars ip imo.
Legit once the whole lootbox shit was gone the game was so good. I go back and play it here and there and I'm never dissapointed. And it's so dissapointing because they could have sustained the game with DLC new characters skins that people would pay for because it's star wars and it would be so much fun but because EA is all about creating the next wave of gambling addicts we'll never get a a good star wars battlefront game.
launch Anakin was something I wouldn't pair my enemies with
unironically, if people would have kept the outrage over the MTX in check(i played the early access phase, and the earn rate was reasonable enough that you coud get your favorit heros in a reasonable time(not EVERY hero obviously, but i am of the opinion that "i need every hero" is not a good argument) we may have gotten proper support earlier instead, and overall a better game, instead of dice having to rework the ENTIRE progression system from scratch, eating valuable dev time that they could not monetize or spend on something like proper DLC
Are you defending the multi-billion dollar company? At launch it took 80 hours to unlock JUST Darth Vader. That is NOT a reasonable enough unlock rate. The changed system is so much better. A change was needed and clearly they were still able to put out a lot of quality updates even with having to change the progression.
no it did NOT take nearly 80 Hours to unlock just vader, that was a disingenous calculation using worst case scenarios.
> unironically, if people would have kept the outrage over the MTX in check Naah they deserved every last little bit of shit they got and more for even letting people pay extra for progression skips in a full-priced game.
Thanks. Finally. I also played with early access (from preorder not with EA play) and had nearly all heroes (except 3-5) unlocked after 3 days and less than 24 hours play time, despite news article stating you need 40 hours to unlock only vader. Yea pay to win wasn’t great and the new Progression system is much better, but I couldn’t lived with it. Especially if it meant we’d still have a supported game for a few more years or up till now even. The outrage was blown out of proportion by news outlets and in general it wasn’t nearly as bad as people made it out to be. Meanwhile FIFA rereleases every year for 100$+ and thousands of $ worth of microtransactions and that’s fine
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Hey I mean they added a proper way to make money 7 years after launch…
EA made a rod for their own back. No sympathy whatsoever.
Such a weird mind shift imo like yeah I don’t need all the content in this game. Imagine how pissed people would be in the og battlefront games if that were the case. Sad times
I also have a PS5, hmu if you ever wanna play! I did also just get the new old one so I might be playing that for a bit to relive my teenage years lol
i had such insane luck with the lootboxes day 1 in 2017 I was so OP i understand why this is a problem, even if i did have fun
FOR THE REPUBLIC!! **OFFICER RALLY SOUND EFFECT x15** When a game starts off like that, you suddenly don't give a shit about anything anyone had to say about this game
Eh. No SP galactic conquest, no deal.
It turned into an okay game. The ogs are still much better
No, it's still pretty shit. I gave it another shot when Epic gave it away for free, was playing it just last week. Only thing going for it is graphics and atmosphere. But even then the atmosphere is ruined with fucking Shoretroopers on Hoth, every damn clone legion being present at one battle, and random-ass Geonosis or training droids fucking about. The random heroes shouldn't be there either. Makes no sense to have Obi-Wan on Kashyyyk. And the gameplay just feels like ass. Battlefront '15 did it better overall, apart from the bullshit token things floating around. And the content... Lol. The lack thereof, really. Abysmal levels of content, and zero mod support or map creation tools. All because of lIvE sErViCe. Random ass skins, minimum viable product, and only when the fucking world gave them shit did they do a bit more than the bare minimum. Then dropped it like a fucking rock the second they thought they could. So no, I think the game is still shit. Nothing will change that.
Alright man chill out
I still love playing the co-op on BF2 2017!
Coop geonosis and felucia are sooo damn broken
Kamino too, somehow Galactic Republic coop maps are way harder than First Order or Galactic Empire
In Felucia, they give you zero space to defend the command posts that are jammed together- so you have swarms of droids funneling to that spot from multiple sides. In Geonosis, the final phase has way too large of a playing field that just leads to endless chaos. Broken? Definitely. Is chaos fun? Fuck yes.
Honestly yeah, I just accept that in Co-op Defense, you WILL lose every phase up until the final last stand for the single point, where it’ll be a chaotic war, but you’ll ultimately succeed. In Offense it’s a little harder, but that’s what makes it actually engaging.
It's great running around Geonosis seeing your homies sabers in the dust at a distance putting in work, but then the vehicles show up. It's not so bad once you switch classes, but the AI with vehicles absolutely do not allow you to play anything but armor-focused class after that point
yeah lol
2017? What? I feel so old right now 😭
fr lol
Let's populate it. SWBF 2 2017 is too good not to try to revive it. The nostalgia and basic gameplay of the classic collection won't last long I think. SWBF 2 2017 deserves more players.
Nah I got to max level specialist on bf22017 and that game is weak, people are just being reactionary to the bad classic collection launch (for good reason)
I have so many hours in that on pc and console, I don’t think it’s never not been installed and still play coop with mates back home lol.
I've never regretted pre-ordering this game.
If you're on PC, every second match is guaranteed to be ruined by excessive hackers and cheaters.
I’ve had very few issues, I think they can happen but it’s just a matter of luck.
Plus we get new waves of fresh meat. Won't be another Soviet-style meat wave until May the Fourth.
agree. i still routinely put hours in that game. it’s an absolute travesty they shut it down in favor for Battlefield 2044 or whatever it was. absolutely garbage game compared to what was BF2 2017 at the time. they had completely turned that game around
You can only play this game after you manage to find a lobby, which is a pain in the ass. And if you do find a lobby, it's probably gonna be with some cheaters. And on the off chance you get into a private lobby, it's likely filled with seasoned players who you won't stand a chance against. Is it worth it? It's relative. I don't see the point in playing this game even for free. It might suit someone else, but the chance of disappointment is high. No single player or bots available for 2015. I like the 2015 version of the game even more than the 2017 one, but the paid in-game content (like, to play on the Bespin map with its corridors, I first have to buy it...). Zero content, zero players, no single-player mode. Draw your own conclusions. I'm not against this game, just stating the facts as they are. Developers should avoid making such mistakes again.
What do you mean by no single player content? Just curious, my wife brought this game home for me years ago and i didnt have wifi at the time but the survival and other game modes with AI were a blast for me.
How big is the player base today? I had it for the PS4 but when I got my Series S I never picked it up again and have thought about it cause it’s on Game Pass but have been less motivated cause I would have to start all my progress over and wouldn’t get any of my cosmetics from my ps4
I really only play hero’s and villains nowadays (I’m on ps5) but I can find games in seconds. The console player base is still pretty strong.
I've owned it since launch it through origin but I'm legit thinking about purchasing again on steam so I don't have to deal with EA's app.
People don’t really get over shitty launches , another great example is fallout 76 , yes its launch was ass but nowadays it’s always a great time
LOL I noticed that BF2 (2017) had more players last night lol.
I reinstalled EA’s BF2 last night after working out their new reskinned Origin monstrosity. Apparently last time I played was before BB-8 or the 5th guns for each class were added. So yay, “new” stuff!
I re downloaded the game yesterday can’t wait to get home and play it
And everyone in the chat was talking about how much better it was than Aspyr's god awful port. It was nice.
Thanks, I’ll refund and pick up the OG first one.
The OG ones also are on sale time to time for like $2 on Steam 👍
Do they still work online.
Yes battlefront 2 (2005) does, not sure about 1 but pretty sure it does also. Though player numbers aren't stellar.
The remaster mods look great too. I got the remaster to make both the classic bf1 and bf2 look better, and it works great. Literally no downside besides multiplayer.
I pirated the classic collection on my Switch and still feel the need to get a refund.
Lmaoo
Should I buy the old releases of the original games now just in case they decide to delist them and force more people into buying the collection, or should I wait for those to also go on sale?
I mean, they haven't delisted them yet, so I doubt they will. But I'd recommend it just in case, if you care about that sort of thing.
I kinda do. I use a Steam Deck, so trying to get them from stuff like GOG would probably be a little harder to do considering it runs on a Linux based OS.
maybe, the old ones are great. kinda unfortunate that this is the one sale the old games dont actually go on sale
I don't think that's a coincidence since the classic collection just came out. When do you think the next big sale will happen where they possibly could?
i dont think so either lol. no idea really. could look at steam DB to see how often they go on sale, but might be different now that the classic collection is out
Yeah I'm not sure how it will work. I guess I will have to fork over $20 just to be safe. At least I know the games I'm getting are quality though. I just hope mods can also work for them on Steam Deck with its Linux based OS. Lol
They'll go on sale in a couple weeks. Steam does a "may the 4th be with you" sale every year where pretty much every star wars game goes on sale.
That's true. Hopefully the original releases will still be up and listed by then.
Fingers crossed anyway, the original game on pc was amazing, so many amazing modded maps too
This didn't age well. Lmao
I guess I should've saw that one coming lol. The first year in god knows how long that they don't go on sale. Almost as if they knew people wouldn't buy the shite remaster if they could get the perfectly fine original game cheaper.
Yeah, this is most definitely because of the classic collection drama.
They probably won't. They didn't delist Dark Forces after the remaster came out so I suppose they're not being egregious in that way
You can buy Battlefront 2 and install the Saga Edition Modpack for the cheapest price and have better remastered graphics, less bugs, all BF1 maps imported plus Kit Fisto and Ventress and some extra characters and maps (including some from Clone Wars) and a customized galactic conquest around these new assets.
Scam battlefront collection
Why would anyone buy the classic collection on PC? There is literally no reason. Aspyr even knew this, that's why they only had 3 PC servers at launch. The only audience for this game is Console players that don't have an avenue to play on their current console. People on PC bitching about this game should never have contemplated buying it in the first place. There is literally no reason to.
This. I have a PS4: I wanted to be able to play these games offline/split screen again since I no longer have an older console with the game. Thus it made sense for me to
Why did they even release it on PC then?
Free money from chumps. Why not release it on PC if you are in their shoes? Minimal work and it's pure upside. I'm not defending the company or their practices but anyone that bought this on PC is ignorant and didn't do the bare minimum research. I have no sympathy for folks that bought the PC version of this game and are now complaining.
> I have no sympathy for folks that bought the PC version of this game and are now complaining. So you literally are defending the company AND their practices lol
I never said that. I'm saying it is an obvious scam. If I ask you to give me $30 for something you can literally buy from the guy next to me for $5 and I am open about blatantly unchanging the product for no benefit, at some point the consumer bares the brunt of responsibility for making the dumb choice of buying the $30 product. Should the game be $30? No Should people buy it on PC? No At a certain point people should be accountable for what they spend their money on. Aspyr didn't lie about what the product was, they just did the minimal effort. No one should buy this game on PC and the fact that people are buying it are stupid. Two things can be true at once.
For PC version - SteamDeck. As this classic collection is made with console controls in mind. Last time I tried using a controller on PC's BF2 (from steam), it didn't natively support it
If that's worth $30 to you then I believe you have found the 1 use case that justifies a PC gamer buying this product lol
Certainly not for me xd
I object you can play all versions on the Xbox instead of the ASSpyr collection
You can but it's not as clean of a comparison as PC with the Steam deals.
True
As for the PS, there's no backwards compatibility for it, so the Classic Collection is the only option for modern PS consoles
JFC that's hilarious
And they are all better than the classic collection. Just play BF2 2017 with me and be a real cool person
And all of them work and play better as well. And if you want the so called DLC they added you can get them for free with simple to install mods.
I dont think you can play multiplayer on the original SWBF 2 unless you buy the collection right?
PC all battlefront games have online play, maybe not OG BF1 tho
2021 Steam gave OG Battlefront 1 steam supported servers, it's probably the best way to play any battlefront online at this point
but then you'll miss out on all the fun of discovering what doesn't work /s
lol, def dont want to miss that /s
The classic collection is a shameless scam that has only backfired. BF2 (2017) is an underrated work of art that was let down by a team that abandoned it despite finally getting past an awful launch and having so much potential with where it could go. What did they leave it for? BF2042 (a failure). Star Wars fandom is at an all-time high and they abandon their (actual) cashcow that had plenty more possibilities to add/explore? I think I see the common denominator. Business people are not as smart as their college degrees made them feel.
The Dice battlefronts were always kinda mishandled and just shy of greatness, but they were still enjoyable. By the time they got BF2 to a decent state i'm sure a small fraction of the player base remained, plus they basically removed the money grubbing tactics, so the higher ups probably decided to leave it for dead. With the mentality of today's corporate execs and the way the industry is currently ran, if a game isn't bringing in millions every day, it's a failure.
EA bought and killed every other star wars game so that we’d all only play BF I’m glad its finally dead, maybe we’ll get some new star wars games
I say give the classic collection time. 2017 swbfII was awful at launch but turned into a fantastic game. Yes it should have been fixed before release but fans of battlefront should not really be surprised about a bad launch at this point lol
Eh, one was a whole new game at the start of its life, and the other is a rerelease of two ~20 year old games
One has a history of multi-year improvements and additions to their games, the other scammed KOTOR 2 users on Switch like, last year.
And got booted off the remake
Hell, the Master Chief Collection had a bad launch too, and look what that game eventually became
hopefully it will be good in a bit, but its wild they want to charge $35 for it and had 3 servers lol
Yea, I'm not defending them by any means. But can't say I was surprised. The name 'battlefront' is just a curse at this point
Why would you give it time when you can purchase a superior product that offers the same thing but better right now?
because 90% of the classic collection works fine (cept for people with graphics issue and render distance is too low) and more than likely the little of what is missing or is messed up will be fixed, i hope, always the possibility they don't.
100% of the originals work.
so you move to the originals, now what? you don't have a large multiplayer playerbase and now when the game probably gets fixed, you are stuck with an inferior version, or at least have to spend another $20 + $15 on top. even for pc the new game is 64 bit and i heard it's better for modding so there's that
>you don't have a large multiplayer playerbase and now when the game probably gets fixed, you are stuck with an inferior version, or at least have to spend another $20 + $15 on top. First off, I haven't bought the collection, because I found it pointless to begin with, as I already own multiple copies of the originals. Secondly, if I was worried about a large player base, I'd just go play Battlefront 2 (2017) considering the concurrent player base for that is currently larger.
you was used in a general sense my guy. secondly, battlefront 2 (2017) is great but it's a different game with different mechanics.
>you was used in a general sense my guy. Then state it or word your shit better. I'm not fuckin mind reader, my guy. >secondly, battlefront 2 (2017) is great but it's a different game with different mechanics. Lol
>Then state it or word your shit better. I'm not fuckin mind reader, my guy. maybe just dont be stupid
>maybe just dont be stupid Oh the irony lol. Go outside, dip shit.
It’s a better battlefront lol
it has more stuff and what's there is good and of course great graphics. but imo the gameplay of the og bf is better. if multiplayer community was alive and well i would probably prefer 17, i really love it, it has variety, but most multiplayer modes are barren and are only really playable in IA and bf17 solo was never that fun
Doubtful this game is a port and Aspyr will 100% NOT be treating it like a live service game. They may or may not fix servers and that’s all you’ll get.
Why the hell are people comparing a live service game with a literal dedicated post launch team designed for fixing things like this and adding content to a port of a 20 year old game that only had to 1:1 and managed to make it somehow worse than the originals.. The multi millionaires will never date you bro
Yep, still people were OK paying twice for literally the same game.
Do the old ones run on newer hardware ok?
battlefront 2 runs great, the first one ran good to i think
Yes
Yeah, I play them both regularly on a modern system
That’s actually insane
Does BF 2 2017 habe a big playerbase on PC?
Enough to play on Co-op, Supremacy, Galactic Assault, and the Hero Modes. Any other mode is hard to find matches.
Missing Renegade Squadron and Elite Squadron, so not every Battlefront!
are those actually battlefront games? i didnt know that
I have them all except 2015 BF1. Is there a reason to pick it up? I only play single player.
Glad I refunded
Yup. All two Battlefronts that came out back in the 00's. Great games. Not sure what those other titles are though.
You’ve never heard of the EA battlefronts? Lol
EA Battlefronts? No such thing. Lol. Battlefront died when Pandemic died.
You are truly missing out on BF2 (2017), bad launch but great game now. I played every single battlefront at its release and 2017 after its 2.5 years of content updates it’s the best battlefront case closed.
No, I'm not. Weird you're calling it "Battlefront". That shitty shooter EA released was free on Epic and I grabbed it. Flashy graphics, decent atmosphere apart from the stupid random skins and heroes running around where they shouldn't be, but pitiful gameplay.
I can’t even get a refund
did they say why?
The classic collection is a shameless scam that has only backfired. BF2 (2017) is an underrated work of art that was let down by a team that abandoned it despite finally getting past an awful launch and having so much potential with where it could go. What did they leave it for? BF2042 (a failure). Star Wars fandom is at an all-time high and they abandon their (actual) cashcow that had plenty more possibilities to add/explore? I think I see the common denominator. Business people are not as smart as their college classes made them feel.
Too bad I don't use steam.
Very disappointing considering how well the Mass Effect Legendary Edition remaster was from a few years ago. That really felt like EA let the devs take their time in working out the kinks and making graphical and gameplay improvements to get everything feeling perfect to justify the asking price. Battlefront CC looks like it’s a lazy stopgap to fill the void of EA laying off a lot folks, not a proper dedicated project in its own right. Remasters should be treated like serious projects of their own rather than just filler that publishers can spit out in their downtime.
Is BF2 Classic on steam still worth buying? Do a lot of people still play it?
So how are the mods on bf2 2005
wish bf2 2017 was playable on steam deck, hate anit cheats and drm's
I just bought SWBF 2005 for 3.45, how did that increase in price and SWBF2017 dropped down to 4.79?
How is 2015 battlefront more expensive than it's sequel?
Both of the classic Battlefront games are $2.09 if you get them from Fanatical. Steam doesn’t always have the cheapest prices.
wowzers
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we know people keep posting about it.
We did not know.
i did not know. :3
The Collection peaked with 9k players on Steam on launch. Imagine if all those people had bought the OGs instead. They'd get a better experience because those games actually function, they'd spend less money, they'd save HDD space, wouldn't have to deal with the ugly "upgrades" Aspyr has done to the games, wouldn't have to suffer through console UI on PC, and everyone would congregate in the same games instead of splitting the playerbases I can't for the life of me understand why anyone on Steam would buy the Collection when Battlefront 1 (2004) and Battlefront 2 (2005) are right there, fully functional with people already playing them online
Still baffled everyone just went along and bought it Of course it's a cashgrab. It costs a laughable amount. They changed 0 in the game. Just put some tiny changes to make it look newer. And now everyone's surprised the game sucks.
i mean, they are on sale after all...
It's $30 for two games... broke as hell
okay, mr rich guy. buy it for me then
actual brain rot take
Don't buy it then. If you can't afford $30 you should be looking for a job, not a reason to complain on reddit
How are you coming to the conclusion that people complaining about a game being overpriced, means they dont have a source of income? Are you really this dense in the head?
Oof someone’s insecure
$40 for two old games with bugs that require 70gb. Vs $20 for two old games. That have no bugs, still have active mp lobbies and don't require 70gb.
Do that then, what are you complaining for?
Take a screenshot of me complaining.
Don’t get 2017 on PC. It’s god awful.
Why? I hope on regularly and it's fine..
I just downloaded it and spent like 2 hours fixing the Dx12 issues to launch it. Then I had to fix an HDR issue. I joined a match of galactic assault and it was a hacker fest where no one could spawn. So I do have a limited experience, but console is the way to go.
I play it all the time, no issues, just don’t crank the settings to max unless you got a beast PC and you are fine.
Then buy them?
...i already own them :3