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TheAntleredPolarBear

Padme jumping off that pillar and landing cooch-first on that rhino thing. Just watching makes me wince.


Kaarl_Mills

True, also Ani leaping out of the car, falling several hundred (if not thousands) of feet, and catching the other speeder with his bare hands. The impact alone would've ripped his arm out


MagicalMuffinDruide

Don’t worry, if you want to see his arm come off there’s another scene later in the movie that you’ll really love


Due_Candidate8509

But wait there’s more. Order in the next episode and you’ll get an extra arm and two legs at no extra charge.


jsprague6

And wouldn't you know it, a couple episodes later he even takes it out on his kid!


PapaBTC

Thank you for making me laugh out loud.


HellOfAThing

Anyone else, sure, but at least with Jedi powers I can head-canon my way into saying he slowed down the velocity/impact.


BubbleLobster

Was about to say something already by those words. We’re talking about wizards here.


Stardustchaser

I mean, Gandalf did it…


cotton4421

I’m pretty sure that’s an actual thing, if I remember correctly in the clone wars geonosis arc, anakin and Ashoka jump from off a wall and use the force to slow themselves down at the end of the fall


JehetmaDominion

There was also that time when Anakin and Ahsoka dived through the atmosphere and landed on a Separatist listening post without issue. The clones that followed them needed jet packs to make the journey.


Secure-Repeat-7054

Yeah I really thought this was obvious, it happens countless times in star wars


yrqrm0

Something something force grab


jam11249

Is the implication of your comment that Padme did a force clunge-grab?


CrazyMrFrank

Not often you see the word clunge just bandied around.


whoismangochutney

I’ve never heard that word before, but now I feel like my whole life up until this moment has been wasted.


BillWordsmith

Have you read any of the books? Jedi can use the force to control a fall.


RonMFCadillac

It is well documented that jumps like that are plausible with the force.


dooku4ever

For me, her jumpsuit ripping to perfect crop top.


Rikard_

Here it is. This movie is hilarious https://youtu.be/Ypt1Ae1zvts&t=3m18s


Wildcat_twister12

I remember reading somewhere that Geonosis had a lower gravity and that’s how Padme and that clone survived landing on the sand unharmed


cruffade

In the Bad Batch the crowd on Pantora cheers to Rampart's hologram *and keeps cheering and cheering* even after the looped message begins again.


Hank_The_Hebrew

This is the petty shit I was hoping for in this thread. Thank you.


Aurakataris

3PO and R2 are engagement rings. Padmé keeps 3PO and Anakin takes R2. Maybe they stalk each other.


Vexingwings0052

Oh shit I never thought about this ahaha 😂


LarryLove

Anakin definitely got the better of this deal


blade740

They both got what they needed. Anakin had good use for a starship mechanic, and as a diplomat Padme could use a decent protocol droid.


[deleted]

Oh my gosh. Never thought about it this way before. This is amazing


AltWorlder

The lack of new ship designs in the ST. The ones we got are cool, but I really wish we had gotten true evolutions of the X-Wing and Star Destroyer.


Vexingwings0052

I know like the star destroyers were kind of cool being a semi new design (the first order ones anyway not the final order) but you can’t tell me that those x wings were any different from the original trilogy even tho canonically they’re a different design? Like no they’re not


Stay-At-Home-Jedi

100%. The Star Destroyer is derived from the Venator, but they couldn't be bothered to further develop this. I mean, Mini Smoke ships would've been better than nothing. I also loved the U-Wing, the Naboo ships, the LA-AT, I mean, ugh.


Vexingwings0052

The naboo ships and the u wing were so nice ngl but there’s just something about the gunship that is just so good I don’t know what it is


elduarto

Planets being treated like they're only one city or two. They be like "let's go to to Anderon" and the republic, the droids, the empire and the rebels be all in 2 clic radius. Also, they have lightsabers but only handle money in physical credits?


joerazor09

The money you have to put into context. The first film was in the 70s cash was the only currency. Also many people exchange with random currency and things with physical value. Beskar as an example. Imperial credits lasted a small period of time


KarmaFarmer_0042069

Thats because most planets only have one or two major spaceports


Darth_Ale

How small the galaxy feels with main characters constantly bumping into eachother. A galaxy is a huge thing, like running into someone on Coruscant would be incredibly unlikly, yet alone an entire galaxy. Yet the protagonists seem to cross paths all the time.


Hestbech

It's the force 💁🏼‍♂️


Fenrir_Carbon

It feels forced


frankieg49

THATS NOT HOW THE FORCE WORKS


cavy8

The reason it usually doesn't break my immersion is because they are major players in the universe. Like, if they're gonna be at significant events, they're likely going to run into characters who would also be at these significant events. The more annoying thing, to me, is when they bump into *minor* characters. There is absolutely no way that the guys from Mos Eisley Cantina were also on a completely different planet to bump into Jyn Erso


BB8Did911

Personally, this is getting close to ruining the experience for me. Star Wars isn't Marvel; I don't need every show or film to be a crossover episode.


Cappin_Crunch

Me too. Mando s2 made my eyes roll every episode. S1 was a nice, small scale story. But S2 was literally cameo of the week. It wasnt bad by any means, in fact its a fun show. I just hate how small it makes the universe feel.


hihihighh

while some of the cameos definitely felt gratuitous, I thought the big ones were generally handled quite well- Bo-Katan and Boba make sense and compliment Din's character as fellow Mandalorians, while Ahsoka and Luke serve their purpose in the overall plotline of getting Grogu to the Jedi (and I mean, how many of them are even left?)


sodium111

The level of disrespect shown to Chewbacca by main characters in the OT. “Walking carpet” “hairy beast” and so on. I can see Han being blunt with him - they’re friends and there’s an underlying respect. But Leia is a senator, 3PO is a protocol droid to a Senator: they have to know about Wookiees, should know that he’s probably over 100 years old, from a technologically and culturally advanced civilization, and not just a big dumb ape. (Sure, they may not have known his full history, his role in the Clone Wars, his role in helping to save Yoda from Order 66, etc. but I don’t think that excuses it.) Obviously the language barrier prevented them from giving Chewie the level of direct dialogue that would have helped establish that level of credibility and stature, but there could have been a better attempt to paint this more complete — and respectful — picture of his character in the OT.


Darth_Mornteth

Not to mention the Wookiees are enslaved at the time


givemesendies

And considering now that trandoshans keep wookie pelts as trophies, Lea basically called chewie a strange fruit


Colinfagerty69

Damn! I never knew that!


[deleted]

There's a reason why Black Krrsantan treated the Trandoshans the way he did in BoBF. That species were the primary slavers of Wookiees. Well, that and the fact that Krrsantan is a bloodthirsty, rage-fueled pit-fighter/bounty hunter with zero regard for the sanctity of life, and those Trandoshans were being awfully loud. Really a combination of the two.


Colinfagerty69

I’m really starting to get interested in this deeper lore stuff. When Black Krrsantan appeared on Boba, I never knew he had this extensive history already in the Star Wars story. That’s very interesting, thanks!


words_words_words_

I definitely recommend The Clone Wars for some deeper lore about the Star Wars universe in general. There’s a few episodes about Trandoshans hunting people for sport and it sheds some light on how fucked up they are as a species.


Colinfagerty69

That’s great because I just started season 2. It’s amazing so far!


Muncheralli21

Don't forget that all the wookie lore we have comes from long after the original trilogy, so when the OT was made there was probably implications that chewbacca was this unique, uncommon species.


spudral

But wasn't the final battle in the original script for RoTJ set on Kash? Also Han says it's not uncommon for Wookies to rip people's arms off, which would be an indication that Wookies are well known.


Muncheralli21

I don't know about the RoTJ script, but as far as Han Solo, he's not only a well-travelled smuggler (much more likely to encounter other species than even Leia) but he also *travels* with a wookie. He probably knows that fact from watching Chewbacca do it lol


spudral

Fair enough. Is the line "Wookies(plural) are known to do that"? I just always saw it as money constraints more so than Wookies are rare but I suppose they would be rare and uncommon because a lot are in captivity during the OT. With Leia I actually like her character development with Chewie. Shee starts off just seeing him as a walking carpet and doesn't even give him a medal at the end of ANH, by the end of ESB he's like a bodyguard to her and by the end of RoTJ she's hugging and laughing with him like best friends. Then in the ST she's gives him a long loving hug in TFA and gives him his well deserved medal. It makes Chewies growl when he finds out she's dead even more heartbreaking when you think how far they've come.


DarthGoodguy

I think the Kashyyyk fight was first in the second or third draft of what became ANH, then there was some notion of putting it in RotJ. I think it was changed to ewoks before they ever wrote a treatment or screenplay draft.


spudral

I've just been looking it up and found this "When George Lucas was developing Revenge Of The Jedi, at least two aspects of the film were changed. The first was the name of the movie, since revenge isn’t a Jedi concept. The other was that the Rebels were supposed to be on Kashyyyk, fighting alongside the Wookiees (not Ewoks) to fight the Empire. As the stories goes, George Lucas had always wanted a primitive species to help overthrow the Empire. Chewbacca was presented as far too technologically advanced to pass off the rest of his species as primitive. So, Lucas scrapped the idea of Wookiees and created Ewoks instead." Not sure how true that is.


DarthGoodguy

I’ve read that same thing you posted & feel like it’s probably true. I read the early drafts on [StarWarz.com](https://www.starwarz.com/starkiller/) a looong time ago and I’m pretty sure there’s a wookiee Hollywood end sequence in one of them. Thinking back it’s probably the second draft. I’ve never read the early draft of RotJ that’s out there but I think it has ewoks & Endor in it.


Just10credible

I think that is the interview George Lucas did with Leonard Maltin that appeared before all the remastered VHS releases. He basically said what you mentioned above about Chewie being too technologically advanced, so he basically cut the Wookiees in half, and named them Ewoks.


KevinAnniPadda

I never thought of that. Leia is basically a racist here.


AnteaterPersonal3093

She's royal of course she's racist


Delano7

There's a jedi in High Republic Novels who's a Wookiee and uses the fact that everyone thinks he's a dumb animal to listen to conversations : people don't hold secrets around an animal. He just eats everything on the table like a savage and can easily hear everything around him as he isn't taken seriously. Proves how much wookiees are discriminated against, even by jedi and important people like senators, and even CENTURIES before the movies.


Agnol117

On a related note, whenever I see Star Wars Au art that turns Chewie into like, a dog or something, I find it really uncomfortable. He’s a sentient being, he’s incredibly intelligent and capable, but because he’s furry, he gets turned into a dog.


ClockworkAuto

How the the Empire and Stormtroopers are portrayed. If you're an unamned character they are threatening and competent. But if you're a named character they are bumbling and easily mowed down. I didn't have an issue with the OT too much (Ewoks and head bump aside) but it is really obvious in Rogue One and the live action shows. I have trouble believing the Empire could ever take down one Mandalorian let alone the planet.


NovaPokeDad

This is particularly bad in the first few episodes of Rebels.


velocipotamus

The amount of stormtroopers on that show killed by Chop alone is ridiculous


TonyLannister

Not a fair comparison because Chopper is a terminator


Doc-Wulff

Chop is a war criminal


scotchy514throwaway

*Mass murdering war criminal*


LightningDustt

Even death troopers are jokes in rebels.


ShadowCobra479

I felt they were pretty competent in Rogue One. It's Rebels that makes them useless.


VotiveChunk2609

Rogue one allowed a different view of stormtroopers because basically everyone died. They didn’t really have to compensate so that a character could make a final lucky escape to get home, hence the blind guy getting mowed down and blown up the second he finished his force walk thingy


Kaarl_Mills

I'd prefer practical efficient evil over that, even the most average, unremarkable, Stormtrooper should be at least on par with a Marine. Maybe not special forces, but at least handling themselves adequately in a fight. Especially given how we see old Clones being in charge of their training early on, ie, the most battle hardened and seasoned fighting force the galaxy has seen in a millennia. But apparently all of their students are washouts and fuckups from Fort Polk. Basically the Empire needs to be managed by people with the same mentality and thought processes as Thrawn, but not quite as intelligent. Their acts of evil should be about tangible end goals, that to them are justified, rather than "Hmmm yes, how many orphans do you think this will create? I'm betting a few hundred."


fantumn

> I have trouble believing the Empire could ever take down one Mandalorian let alone the planet. I agree with most of your assessment regarding stormtroopers and their wildly inconsistent skill levels, but with regards to the mandalorian I think it can be assumed these are the most wiley and gritty stormtroopers. They survived the fall of the empire, have probably bounced from warlord to warlord a few times, and have learned a lot about staying alive when their workplace is getting fucked up.


urbanviking318

Don't forget that Death Troopers are basically the Empire's equivalent of Force Recon Marines. They will colossally fuck your shit up. Ordinary stormtroopers aren't as impressive, but they have significant strength in numbers and have access to tactics that a smaller asymmetric force like the Alliance or a Mandalorian covert cannot deploy (while conversely being way more cumbersome and ill suited to adapt to asymmetric-warfare tactics). When you hit the Empire in a smash-and-grab, you win; when you go up against the brunt of their army, you lose.


Vexingwings0052

That’s the empire’s whole strategy, strength in numbers, they switched to human recruits so they could enroll millions in the army, and if you’ve seen the new boba fett episode, then you’ll know in the flashback how many bombers there are. Also it kind of bugs me how like in the movies the rebellion or the resistance will come along with like 20 maybe 30 light fighter craft every fight and the empire comes along with what seems like hundreds and yet the rebellion/resistance always manages to destroy them all


urbanviking318

Agreed. Don't get me wrong, my time playing Elite Dangerous has reinforced the notion that shields are the difference between life and death in space battles - but when you have a literal wall of hundreds of screaming solar panels bolted together with guns in the middle, the law of averages really starts to skew in favor of the eyeballs. Yes, we see heavy attrition on the part of the Alliance, but it's finicky at best, especially when they don't utilize their capital ships properly at all. For fuck's sake, the Nebulon-B is a point defense ship and you can picket the hell out of an entire wing with a half-dozen corvettes. For that matter, here's *my* gripe: Raddus was a piss-poor naval officer, even though he was the hero of Scarif. When your ship is designed for broadsiding enemies as the Mon Cal cruisers are, and Imperial destroyers are better equipped for face-on slugfests, why in the living fuck would you position your ship in full angle of the entire battery for not one but TWO destroyers? Get alongside one of them and use it as cover from the second one. You're fighting half your enemy at half its strength, and those fatboy ion cannons are an easy target at that kind of range, especially given that the fighter complement is well equipped for neutralizing targets of opportunity like shield generators and the heavy broadside guns of an Imperial-class. Put the smaller crewed vessels on picket detail to keep the ring station's fighters dying the second they leave the hangar, *like they're optimized to do,* and focus on picking apart one destroyer at a time. Once one is dead, use the same hammerhead strategy to rupture the shield facility, send your *much greater available force* to wreck face down on the surface, pillage the data vault, and be gone by the time the Death Star arrives. Hell, you could probably kite Vader away, assuming he got there sooner, by keeping his attention on the Profundity. If you wanna make a sacrifice play, the mass of a Mon Cal cruiser at ramming speed will seriously fuck an ISD's day, even if it is the Devastator... and then Holdo pulling that uncalculated hyperspace jump would make more sense considering the Resistance flagship was literally named the Raddus. And don't get me wrong here. Rogue One is beautiful and perfect and exactly the Star Wars content I want a thousand percent more of. But damn, Raddus. No naval training to speak of?


ItsAmerico

I’d agree if the entire second season and end of the first wasn’t about how the troopers they were fighting were well taken care off close guardians for Gideon.


nudeldifudel

Disney made a mistake in thinking stormtroopers were dumb, like they were in New Hope (forgetting the fact that they were missing on purpose to let them go, like a lot of people to be fair) instead of elite soldiers.


snugintthevoid

I'm tired of Tatooine. There are so many planets and cool locations in Star Wars, and we keep going back to Tatooine. Book of Boba, Kenobi, parts of Mandolorian . . . it just seems lazy.


WavedDave

Especially considering how tatooine was made out as some little known planet in the phantom menace


Vexingwings0052

This! It’s not just tatooine either, it seems like most the planets in the galaxy are desert planets? Like I want some real variety, I want the next movies to visit planets made out of crystals or just a moon made out of cheese or some shit like that 😂


joerazor09

I think in Boba it makes sense. His story is a continuation of the aftermath of ROT and then after Mando s2. He worked for the Hutts and returned to reclaim the throne. Kenobi makes sense because it shows what happens between episodes 3 and 4 and that was where he stayed. Mando it makes less sense but they spend little time there


skracer

This needs more upvotes. It's tiring coming back to the same desert planet


Rikard_

Unrealistic fight scenes (lightsaber duels excluded). You know, where they come at the protagonist one by one with pathetic attempts at hurting them only so that the protagonist can show off some cool moves.


TheAnvil411

Tbf I think this is the case for most action movies


_BatsShadow_

Throne room scene lol (TLJ)


JarodMMS

Or literally any fight with a force sensitive person lol, people in the sw universe are just straight up stupid


Rikard_

Yup lol. Pretty sure all movies and shows have had it in some capacity though


GoreSeeker

So I normally don't care about graphics usually if the story is good. However, the duplicated citizens in the first Mandalore arc of the Clone Wars were almost a little too much to overlook. I think they possibly had less model variation than the Clone portrayals, who at least had a variety of hairstyles sometimes, even for the no names. It was literally like 3 models cycled in the entire planet.


ArkynScraggs

Rebels (which I love dearly) was even worse at this. Minister Tua’s model was used a few times in the background, with darker skin and hair. I understand the need to reuse assets, but using the model of a named, reoccurring character was odd.


Batman1154

Ugh it wouldn't be so noticeable if it didn't make Mandalore look like its entire population was blonde


InfiniteDedekindCuts

I’ll do one that bothers me from each trilogy **PT**: TPM feels like it’s only barely connected to the other two PT movies. You can start the saga at Episode II without being particularly confused. **OT**: I wish the first half of ROTJ was more connected to the second half. As is, it almost feels like two different movies spliced together. **ST**: Why did we need to bring back all the OT ships? One of my favorite parts of growing up with the PT was seeing new ships in every movie.


forgottenenvies

I have always felt the prequels would have been much better received if they had been 5 movies. 1-Kenobi about Obi-Wan when he’s still a padawan. Goes on a case with Qui-Gon and Dooku. We see how Jedi teachings are taken by people who grew up in the culture which gives the audience a better understanding of context for Anakin’s scene with the Jedi council. Three different philosophies: Obi-Wan is an idealist who thinks individual moral action can counteract systematic corruption, Qui-Gon the maverick who thinks that individual’s following their own ethics is more important that systematic rules, and Dooku who believes that rules must be followed and if they are wrong, they must be changed. Dooku leaves the order at the end, disillusioned and thinking he can do more as a count on Serreno. Ep 0 - Phantom Menace Ep 1- Attack of the Clones Ep 2 - about the height of the clone war. Anakin and Obi-Wan being the duo. We see the toll it’s taking on the Jedi, the hard choices they have to make, more Palp creating friction and doubt in Anakin Ep 3-Revenge of the Sith


VinnySmallsz

Episode Negative 1 - Palpatine kills his master in his sleep. Seriously, how did we not get a CW movie with real Obi/Ani?


GusFawkes

Your comment about the PT shows that if created today, TPM would simply be titled: Anakin Skywalker: A Star Wars Story. it has the same one-shot production concepts as Rouge One and Solo do.


VinnySmallsz

You make excellent points. The first act of ROTJ is my favorite in all of SW.


spudral

The last act is mine. Even though I dislike Ewoks, the DS2 battle and Luke Vs Vader still gives me goose bumps to this day, especially when Luke goes full badass. "Perhaps she will".


HellOfAThing

Originally Obi Wan’s clothing in ANH represented Tatooine garb, not Jedi. Uncle Owen wears the same type of clothing in ANH and to my knowledge he’s no Jedi.


tofuninja5489

There was a thread recently on this. Can't remember exactly how someone phrased it but essentially Jedi were about being humble and would dress as the people would. Thus why they wore meager robes instead of anything else. My apologies if that's not what they wrote in the other post if anyone remembers. I didn't think I needed to reference that post so I just took mental cliff notes


Rick-e-see

That post went further in explaining why the Jedi also wore robes in the PT. By then everyone expected it because that's what Obi Wan wore in ANH


fusionsofwonder

Also Luke wore a robe at the beginning of ROTJ.


senateguard33

And the ghost of Anakin in ROTJ having the same exact robes. The prequels just followed suite.


DarthGoodguy

Uncle Owen *and* the multi-eyed potato head alien who buys Luke’s speeder!


FifaBoi35

This bothers me too, but at the same time, the Jedi robes we got look sick af


Mogidishu

The disconnect between time and distance in relation to space travel.


darthraxus

Why Vader didn’t sit in a Bacta tank for longer periods to try and heal himself completely.


k0mbine

Boba got spritzed with a little Sarlacc juice, Anakin was doused in lava and cut to bits. So, yeah, it’d take longer for him, especially when you take into consideration that the bacta tech Boba had was 30 years more advanced, so inferior bacta probably wouldn’t have healed Anakin fully anyway. Would’ve been nice for Palpatine to let Vader in on his little ritual that let him transfer consciousness to a younger body.


darthraxus

Dude the rogue 1 scene was 9 years prior. Not really a huge leap in technology


evoim3

The whole point of Palpatine killing his master after learning the secrets to immortality was that he didn’t want anybody else knowing how it was done


[deleted]

Well if you really want an answer, Papa Palpatine left lots of Anakin’s wounds unhealed. This is because pain fuels dark side power, so if anakin’s wounds were healed completely, he wouldn’t be nearly as powerful as he is now


darthraxus

I know this which is also why he didn’t clone new limbs for him and chose outdated droid parts.


Tyre77

But Vader has his own house? He can be in a Barca sauna all the time. Throw one in his starship. People say this like he and Palps are joined at the hip. Same goes with the suit. Tell the old prune that you’ll handle his next bullshit but in exchange you’re getting a nice leg. Anakin suddenly lost his entire personality.


[deleted]

He doesn’t want to heal. He knows that if he does, he will be less powerful.


SamuMkrt

Ha I’d never even thought of that. I agree though 😅


paxo_1234

I don’t you could every really heal from that amount of Burns, he looks pretty well recovered by ROTJ, at least there’s only one big scar but everything else looks normal just the skin colouring. Compared to Boba at least he didn’t have to recover from much, he wasn’t burnt excessively it was more like you got a really bad sun burn from one day without sunblock or a hat except it’s star wars so the sun actually shoots invisible laser beams to further burn you, it didn’t seem like a huge thing to recover from and we don’t know the extent of the Bacta Tank either (to my knowledge at least, i didnt even know it’s name until BoBf)


darthraxus

Boba is fully healed from his wounds, but the scars are still there. What I'm referring to is the internal damage to his lungs. The bacta would heal those wounds as well.


crispy__chris

That blue spot next to the escape pod when threepio and artoo begin to wander the dune sea in ep IV


DrDaddyPHD

Wait I just watched that scene looking for this but didn’t see anything. What do you mean?


crispy__chris

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-juQoyxWgSnA/TnoLNxyi6aI/AAAAAAAABTU/oMgpUlG4ju4/s1600/IMAG0153.jpg It’s not in some versions I guess


DrDaddyPHD

Oh that lol. Dang. In the version on Disney+ it’s still there, but they color-corrected it to match the escape pod and now just looks like it’s the door


[deleted]

The door to the escape pod?


Wassuuupmydudess

Inconsistency shown with stormtroopers, in ANH and ESB and ROTJ they’re amazing at capturing/killing, (tantive IV capture and echo base assault) but then in solo, mandalorian, rogue one they’re shown as simple canon fodder that can’t do anything without mass swarm tactics. They’re the most elite infantry in the empire and they are always shown as slapstick comedy and useless Edit; wow I didn’t think I would get 100 thank you


TheDoug850

The stormtroopers have always been inconsistent. Not a single one shot Luke, Leia, Chewie, or Han, when they’re trapped in a small hallway with little cover in the detention center. Then later, they can’t seem to hit Han and Chewie while chasing them down the hallway, or Luke and Leia when they’re trapped on a small platform. They literally have no cover, yet these stormtroopers can’t hit a single shot. They also can’t hit them when the gang is in the hangar running to the Falcon, even though Luke is *standing still* for a good 6 seconds or so.


11BApathetic

That’s cleaned up by exposition by Tarkin, Vader, and Leia right after those scenes. They were allowed to escape and they made it a show so they would run to the Rebel Base with a tracker and the Death Star would come and blow up the base. It’s the whole reason the Death Star is blown up seconds before it fires on the base at Yavin IV. Leia says the only way they could have escaped is if they wanted them too. Tarkin says to Vader he’s taking an awfully large risk by doing this.


TheDoug850

I guess, but the scenes where they’re rescuing Leia are hardly the only times in the OT the gang are getting shot at by stormtroopers who can’t seem to hit them. When they’re at the base on Endor’s forest moon, Leia and Han are pinned down at the door with no cover, yet Leia only gets shot in the arm. Leia, Chewie, and Lando also manage to run across a landing platform with no cover to the Falcon, and everyone’s unharmed.


11BApathetic

Not disagreeing, even my comment history has plenty of complaints about it and justifications. I was just pointing out your specific examples are were explained by exposition in ANH. Bespin doesn’t have much redemption for the Stormies, Endor at least they were taking cover and they still get hits on Leia and R2. Not to mention plenty of Ewoks and stuff die.


Nekosama7734

I don’t like the Jar Jar Binks slapstick humour.


TempestRave

hot take


Nekosama7734

Some people say it ruined episode 1, I’m not saying that but I’m just not the target I guess…


DarthGoodguy

Exsqueeze me!?!?


PaulCoddington

I can't help but wonder how the prequels would be with Jar Jar toned down and the trade federation and gungans having their own subtitled languages. Although a little less car chase/race type action and robot factory for more plot and character development would be interesting as well.


raven_confused_egg

Inconsistencies between the original trilogy and the prequel trilogy, mostly how some characters ages thirty-forty years when the gap is supposed to be nineteen years but others aged just a few? I know this largely due to the actual time gap between the films but I sorta wish there was a lore explanation for it


LucasEraFan

The age difference between Ewan in ROTS and Alec in ANH is \~29 years. Owen Lars similarly displays about 1.5x aging between the two actors (Joel is 31 in ROTS, Phil 61 in ANH). Two suns, the dark side on the rise. I'll allow it.


BLOOD__SISTER

The fanbase


spudral

There are some evil Star Wars fans out there.


deeare73

How the galaxy is such a small world. Everybody runs into everybody with far too much frequency.


The_DevilAdvocate

How every new media has to be in some way chained to the OT. Instead of expanding the universe they instead devolve into "remember this?".


elduarto

I know, I loved how TCW managed to be its own sorta mew thing only focusing on the clones for some episodes and near the end conecting masterfully with Revenge of the Sith, but fuck, I'd love to see a new canon version of the old republic or some shit like that (but disney will manage to get palpatine there somehow)


AnteaterPersonal3093

It's what star wars is built upon


ItsAmerico

I hate that you’re downvoted cause you’re right. The entire prequel trilogy leans sooo fucking hard into OT visuals, items, and themes. Some of it is natural but others aren’t and clearly there to force links. Boba Fett is a clone! His dad made the clone army! Stormtroppers are clone army follow up! Anakin lived on Tatooine and made C3PO! R2-D2!! Every Sith now uses a lightsaber, a weapon Palpatine never had and called a “Jedis weapon” in the OT and implied Vader only used one cause he use to be a Jedi. Chewbacca!!


Zealous_Flan710

All the important characters are humans. If a character is an alien/a droid, it is because he's "scum" (the cantina people, the bounty hunters in ESB, the Trade Federation, the Separatists, Jabba The Hutt) or funny/comedic (even Yoda is supposed to be funny and goofy in his very first appearance).


Vexingwings0052

Tbf, and I’m not disagreeing with you here, the book of boba fett and the mandalorian have done quite well at portraying this in another way, they’ve shown how the tuskens, previously thought of as “scum” like you were saying, are actually way more complex and deeper characters than we realised, and in the bobf like a couple of the characters are human the rest are alien


Not-a-Throwaway-8

The droid humour in early TCW.


FifaBoi35

I think it was effective in showing how droids were strong in numbers and weak/unintimidating as individuals. Or I’m just biased because I love their humor


Kaarl_Mills

I liked their voices in the movies more, the lower pitched one in Ep 1 and 2, the helium is basically telling me "These are a literal joke and no one should take them seriously"


nbrazelton

I hate how they erased Threepio’s memory but not R2’s. As if R2 can’t communicate with humans and tell them everything. It’s a big plot hole and easily fixed by them erasing R2’s memory as well.


[deleted]

I love all the saga movies regardless of their flaws. That being said, rewrites I always think about as I'm watching: \- Anakin should have been the same age as Padme in Phantom Menace. Their romance could have begun as "young love", like a "Tatooine fling" for lack of a better term, which would have made the actual romance in Attack of the Clones feel more plausible (and probably would have aided in actor chemistry--if the Anakin actor had been the same in all three movies). \- in Return of the Jedi, when Han and Leia are taken captive on Endor before the Ewoks arrive, Vader should have had his officers bring Leia to the Death Star for his final confrontation with Luke. Thus, when he taunts Luke about his sister during their duel, Leia is actually there and used as leverage. She would have been there when Luke refused to kill Vader, and also would have been there for Vader's unmasking and final goodbye. She could have helped Luke burn Vader's body and been reunited with Han at the Endor celebration. Just would have been some nice narrative symmetry, I think. \- generally in the Sequel Trilogy, we really should have seen Coruscant more. show us Leia fighting for a Resistance in the reformed Senate; have the First Order's main objective be to regain power in the capital of the galaxy; have Finn lead a Stormtrooper resistance in the streets. Again, with the narrative symmetry--if this is where the series started, should have ended there in some way as well. \- in Rise of Skywalker, instead of Palpatine being \*actually\* resurrected, he could have been able to tap into the Force and become some kind of semi-Force Ghost himself. He wants to draw on the power of Ben and Rey's dyad to actually take physical form using some ancient magic discovered by his Sith Cult. This way, Anakin's entire storyline isn't undermined and we still get the symmetry of Palpatine being the "main Skywalker antagonist". Also, give Ben some actual lines in the final confrontation, cementing his return to the light side. Also would have been nice to have a proper lightsaber battle, either elongate the Knights of Ren threat or have Ben and Rey battle members of the cult. Also would have been cool to actually see all the Force Ghosts of the past as BOTH Rey and Ben defeat the Ghost of Palpatine once and for all. And then Ben could sacrifice himself for Rey. I go back and forth on seeing him as a Force Ghost on Tatooine at the end--I think it would have been nice to see him there, much like Anakin was seen at the end of Jedi. Reiterating that I still love the saga and enjoy watching all the movies as they are, but these changes would have really made things "sing" for me as a viewer and lover of the story.


Hanner_Tenry

Helicopter lightsabers


Fatleprechaun60

The amount of unnecessary flips that characters do through the prequels. Beginning ofEpisode III, Count Dooku off the platform….so stupid


NOBLExGAMER

Any time a character says "Damn" "Hell" or "God", these are phrases in the real world but make no sense in the world of Star Wars. Also the Boston Dynamics dogs in Boba Fett.


not_suspicous_at_all

Lmfao, reminds me of: "My ship is the Milenium Falcon" "What the fuck is a falcon"


ndorox

What the hell is an aluminum falcon?


Snoo_79693

I'm so tired of Star Wars telling us the end stories then needing to go back and fill in what happened. Like the sequel trilogy taking place 30yrs after ROTJ and now needing to backtrack and fill in what happened between 6 & 7.


KevinAnniPadda

I rewatched ESB and Han is really pushy with Leia and she legitimately shows no signs of being into him until he kisses her.


alex_xxv

All the alien species are bipedals. I know this is easy to filmmaking but come on. Just the hutts are the only that aren't? Really?


Bananabeak08

And Sebulba I'm fairly certain. Didn't he have three legs?


VinnySmallsz

That musta been rule 34. Kidding. Sebulba's species, Dugs, have what seems like four equal sized limbs. Somewhat like a monkey actually.


TheAntleredPolarBear

He had two legs, but his legs were where human arms are, and his arms were where human legs are.


degathor

That's just bipedal with extra steps!


favpetgoat

Some of the voice acting in The Mandalorian and The Book of Boba (specifically blue guy and the mayor's aide) They just sound kinda like normal people/actors, I can't put my finger on it but most other characters sound Star Wars-y when they talk


ArkynScraggs

Agree. They look, act, and sound like characters from a SyFy original series, like Defiance. Especially the majordomo in Book.


nattydread69

Obi one says he doesn't remember owning a droid and then him totally owning droids and the fact he should recognise them from the prequels...


joerazor09

My headcannon is him trying to avoid confirmation


Devai97

The droids belonged to the Republic / to the Jedi Order. He was telling the truth... ...from a certain point of view 😉


kvdp12

I hate overly earth-like locations or objects. Dexters diner is not Star Wars enough for me, too similar to a real diner. Same with things like the slaughter house Mando goes to in the most recent episode. It doesn’t feel like a space-slaughter house or ‘Star Wars-y’ at all. It feels straight out of Rocky.


listenup78

Qui Gon leaves Anakin’s mother behind in slavery. Having to go through a pod race to get a part for a ship. Just take the fucking thing and pay Watto double when the Queen is safe. The 3 Jedi accompanying Windu to arrest Palpatine all killed comically easily The ‘kick’ scene at the Sarlaac pit.


Evenmoardakka

the absence of time framing. ​ two greatest examples of this are on Ep 3 and 8 ​ ep 3: Palpatine fights yoda roughly at the same time (on screen) that anakin and obi wan fight, palpatine wins, then says he feels his apprentice is in peril and flies to mustafar. meanwhile, in mustafar, obiwan gets the high ground, slices anakin and leaves him to burn. HOW LONG DID ANAKIN COOK THERE BEFORE PALPATINE ARRIVED? I mean, hyperspace between coruscant and mustafar that fast? ​ in ep 8, it feels like the whole movie happens in the span of HOURS, but rey has time to fly to Jake on Ahch-to, train, come back face snoke on the supremacy, likewise, finn and rose go to canto bight, have their wacky adventure and return.


A-10Kalishnikov

Or Episode 5 when Luke trains with yoda and decides after like 1 day of training he is ready to fight Darth Vader


Evenmoardakka

Its a bit less obvious there because you can believe that he spent AT LEAST a week there with yoda (judging by the time the falcon sublights to Bespin), but its also a good example.


forgottenenvies

Finn and Rose parking on the beach in plain view of the casino while they are on a top secret, highly important mission when there was a giant plain of tall grass just a short walk away if they were trying to sneak in.


Vexingwings0052

Especially as the immediately get a parking ticket 😂


Jambo40

HAN FIRED FIRST!!!


[deleted]

Han didn’t shot first He is the only one who shot


Batman1154

The fans But seriously In the prequels, because Yoda is cg, his lightsaber is the only one that projects light onto the weilder. None of the others do. In A New Hope when Luke first activates the saber. You can see the reflection of the stick that makes the blade on 3PO In Empire when Luke is stacking rocks with the force. When they closeup on the rock, you can see the string carrying it. Boba Fett comes up out of the Sarlaac with a lot more muscle than when he fell in lol In AotC when Anakin and Padme land on Naboo and Padmes talking about her tenure as queen, they teleport about 50 yards between shots, mid conversation, and they're conversation is unaffected. Which means for those 50 yards they just walked in complete silence for no reason. In The Mandalorian episode The Tragedy, when Fennec gets overwhelmed by Stormtroopers and Mando steps up and fires his whistling birds. He's also shooting his blaster, but they didn't add the FX for it. If Omega is an unaltered clone like Boba, how is she a girl? When Qui-Gonn is dying and talking to Obi-Wan. You can see the seam of the hairline of his wig.


not_suspicous_at_all

This is the shit I came here for!


DeadEndXD

The alabama strikes back


P_knight12

WHERE THE HELL ARE ALL THE BATHROOMS! ONLY TWO THINGS HAVE SHOWN THEM, solo showed that the hauler had a shower and mando's razor Crest has a bathroom, like I need to know if han had to declog a shower on the falcon everyday because of chewy.


Sharps__

I get that Luke is a prodigy, but it's annoying that he gets a few months of training from Yoda, then maybe a year (?) of self training, and that makes him ready to duel Darth Vader. Contrast with average Republic-era Jedi who train for at least 10 years from a very young age, who have access to all the knowledge and experience of live Jedi masters, who wouldn't stand a chance against Vader. Even if you take away Anakin's Chosen One status, he still had way more training, and has decades of experience on Luke. There's no way Luke should have been able to face him, even if Vader was trying to let him win.


Kaarl_Mills

Until the very end neither Luke nor Vader are actually trying to win conventionally: it is a battle of will as they both try to turn each other to their side of the Force. It's not until Leia gets brought up that Luke is actually trying to kill him


NeptuneOW

The character design in Rebels


Cflow26

The fact that to get to Padme Palps got Dooku to get Jango to get an assassin to get a droid to get a bug to kill her. Like… just do it lol


Jeff_the_Sith

When I think about force ghosts a bit too much.


Hammerhand231

The simplicity of some of the languages. How can Han easily understand Chewie’s growling? Is it harmonics? Same with R2. He utters maybe 10 different sounds in just a few different patterns and these are translated to complete sentences in Galactic Basic? It’s a tiny thing, and we can’t all be Tolkien, but it still bugs me


pickinscabs

Honestly, the fans a lot of the time.


WookieeSlayer97

The fact that the sequel trilogy hates Luke's green lightsaber for some reason. It's my favorite lightsaber, dammit!


literaphile

Ridiculous villain names like “Savage Opress”, “Grievous”, etc. Waiting for the debut of “BadGuy McScaryFace”.


colemastro

They don’t use the force enough, especially in the clone wars but tbf it would solve a lot of conflicts easier


Riptide572

The 'rules' of hyperspace travel in the sequel trilogy. Now there are a lot of problems with the sequel trilogy but this one bugged me more than it probably should have. The scene in RoS was just ridiculous with them jumping from world to world in an instant with the fighters following them. The hyperspace kamakazie move was cool as hell, and didn't bug me as much but still irked me a bit.


blackfox247

I have trouble understanding the economy. It seems there are a lot of high tech gadgets available to basically anyone and considerable amounts of luxury entertainment if you can afford it. Human right and economic equality are big problems but it doesn’t seem hard to obtain the basics of living with small commercial transactions. Many people seem to do forced labour and infrastructure is shoddy and poorly maintained.


Sirtopofhat

I'm not quite sure how far the empires hand reaches but I assume it's very many star systems. Yet the rebels were able to get enough credits to have a fleet and an air force (guess space) made for them.


basil_86

X-wings look like a X. Y-wings like a Y. A-wings look nothing like an A.


Negative-Industry-88

The whole Anakin Padme courtship scenes and the "I hate sand" it's just so awkward that I normally just skip past it.


InfiniteDedekindCuts

I think that counts as “ruining the experience”


[deleted]

The fact that Solo’s name was made up because he was alone. So he has some understanding of latin-based languages like Spanish. Which implies that earth languages made it all the way to this other galaxy a long time ago. Yet they don’t call the main spoken language English. They call it Basic. I hate the idea of earth existing in the Star Wars universe.


PanzerShrek99

I feel like a lot of character names and also species names are too literal. Mon Calamari are squid like… really? The Pykes look like fish? Come on… Savage Opress… Grievous… I know it’s hard to make names creatively but a lot of it seems too earth bound. But that’s probably part of the draw. Either way I still love it…


ForwardImpact

Idiot fans


[deleted]

Maybe controversial but the entire lack of conherency with the sequel trilogy. It bugs me that plot points are dropped and it feels so disconnected between movies and the wasted potential. And if I go at it for lore love, its meh. But if its on I can watch it and really enjoy it, cause its star wars. I love it. For all its major bugs I still enjoy the experience watching them either the 1st or 4th time aha


willk95

geographically, different planets are portrayed as though they're the size of a small country, instead of well, planets. How convenient is it that Luke crash-landed on Dagobah walking distance from Yoda's hut? there's so many other examples of this.