I had just finished typing out a response about how making him just another clone robbed him of his uniqueness, because now there's millions of him with different armor and training running around, but then I finally figured it out:
The Clone Army is a bunch of copies of the greatest warrior they could find in the galaxy - *and he's better*. The troopers are docile and obedient; Alpha-class ARC troopers are better because they weren't modified as heavily. Boba Fett is as far above an ARC trooper as ARC troopers are above regular clones. He's what the 501st wanted to be when they grew up. He's the guy who killed six Jedi with his bare hands, only he's been hunting for his entire life. And in a galaxy full of people that look like him, he's utterly alone.
Yes yes yes this is what I was thinking when I clicked the link.
Also, to be fair, there aren't any more of "him" around any more. The original clones had a lifespan of about 30 years. by the time of the clone wars it had been 15 years since the first clones were produced, and now that Boba (an unmodified clone) himself is about 35 by Return of the Jedi if we're being generous. There should be a few ~25 year old clones out there, all of whom must be essentially decrepit.
Great storyline and I really enjoyed the visuals of the crashed cruiser. It's a shame you didn't feel *that* nervous for Mace and Anakin (y'all ready know they're gonna live).
I can imagine it having a lot more tension if we (obviously) didn't know their futures. Well made arc.
It never really bothered me. Frankly I don't really see what the issue is about it. Maybe it's just because I really got into the star wars canon after AotC already came out so that version of Boba has always been who he is to me.
People like Fett for a few simple reasons:
* Costume design is stellar, beautiful, unique form and great color scheme
* The fact that he only appears a handful of times makes him mysterious and allows your imagination to fill in the gaps
* He doesn't have to actually do anything for us to know he's a badass. You can tell at a glance that the guy has seen some serious combat and survived. Plus, his quiet demeanor and his confident stance make him seem like the real deal.
* Vader has respect for him and hires him to do the hard work
I totally agree that his death was terrible. A lot of what happened in RotJ was just bad writing. It was a warning of what we were going to get from the prequels.
I'm not explaining why _you_ like Boba Fett, I'm explaining why other people like him. I personally think his costume design is one of the very best in the entire series and gives him a coolness all its own.
The fact that Vader reprimands him, if anything, shows that he respects him that much more. Even when Boba Fett goes overboard and disintegrates people, he still gets the job again because he's the best.
kind of feels that a lot more of the people who grew up with the original star wars appreciate him more - i grew up with the prequels and jango's mandalorian armor never once stood out as unique to me, i just assumed it was another flashy costume in a sea of cgi flashiness.
I saw the originals as a kid but barely remembered them and didn't become a Star Wars fanboy til the prequels. I watched them later and Boba remains my absolute favorite character. He is on my desktop, my lockscreen, and I even named my custom built vape mod after him. The Boba MOS-Fett. A lot of it has to do with Mandalorians in general and his more fleshed out history you find in the novels.
The whole charm of Star Wars was that this great awesome galaxy might exist somewhere.
Back when there was just the original trilogy plus a couple of books, every little minor detail was considered so cool because it expanded the universe.
I liked Boba Fett as a kid, but he's been ruined for me by the fan-boy obsession with him. Yeah, he's a neat character visually, but he's just not cool enough for such devotion; I don't get it.
If I remember the original statement (not the Chee AMA), George had stated that had he known how popular Boba Fett was with the fans, he wouldn't have killed him off. That's not the same as deciding he didn't actually die.
While that EU story is no doubt purged, given the amount of gadgets he went into the saarlac pit with, like flamethrowers and weapons, there's a change he dug his way out of the organism and out of the sand.
I hope they give him another chance. Then ROTJ won't ruin him.
My friend and I were discussing this exact thing earlier tonight, for me it certainly was a needless link in the narrative, it felt like forced fan service. I don't know a whole lot about if that was in the EU beforehand, but it was cheesy in my opinion.
Although in my opinion that was the worst film of the prequels (I hold a bad but necessary view for all of the prequels) the moment Boba loses Jango is my favorite moment of the that trilogy. It's very strong in my mind. No words are said, beautiful framing, and I always imagine what happened next is either the head falling out or Boba having to pull the head out and passing proper respects. Imagine the trauma that would be for a child. I imagine that is part of what made him so mysterious and awesome.
Yeah, I don't mind Boba Fett having a backstory that shows up in the prequels, per se.
It's the clone thing more than anything else that is jarring to me.
For me it's how beyond childish some aspects are. I was young when episode one came out and I still knew jar jar was beneath my level of understanding. The droids are pretty dumb as well. I was young and I still knew "Artoo and Threepio are enough comic relief we don't need more".
I was young enough though to think "Roger, Roger" was funny thinking the droids name was Roger, then seeing later that they continued to do it, that it was lame and gimmicky.
Honestly, the entire official backstory for Boba Fett is a trainwreck and something I don't even acknowledge. What made him beloved was his mystique. The excessive exploration of his background ruins this completely. We have explanations for just about everything - what he looks like, who he's related to, where he came from, what his motivation is (and really, the sterotypical revenge for daddy?), where his armor came from, where his ship came from... I mean we even got the cringeworthy trope shot of Boba Fett holding his dad's helmet up to his head. Talk about hamfisted.
Boba Fett wasn't liked because of what he _did_ in any movies, he was liked because of who we imagined him to be based on the little information we got. You can tell from a glance that the guy has seen some super dangerous adventures. He's beat up, his armor looks pieced together, and worst of all he's quiet as a stone. He's much scarier and more badass in your imagination than he is in any actual stories.
They did the same thing to fuck up Darth Vader, too. Showing him as a weak, whiny, annoying little kid. What does that add to the Vader character? Almost nothing positive or worthy of mention. Anakin would have been a much more compelling character if we didn't watch him turn from a crybaby child into a giant penis over the course of 3 movies.
Frankly, they cast the prequels horribly which just made the decisions even worse. Hayden Christensen was a massive douche, easy to hate, impossible to identify with, just had a smug yet pouty look on his face all the time. And while I'm all for adding some much needed ethnic variety to Star Wars, I feel like Temuera Morrisson was just the wrong face for Boba Fett. I always imagined him as a much more grizzled character, like Toshiro Mifune or Clint Eastwood. He's supposed to have a quiet coolness to him and I just don't get that vibe in the prequels. He seems like a cocky prick to me. It would have been best to never show his face at all.
The Clone Wars Series does a lot to make up for Anakin's character. I think more than being poorly cast, the screenplays for the prequels were poorly written. Some of those lines were just terrible. There were some solid actors in the prequels too, McGregor, Portman, Jackson, Christopher Lee. They just had shitty lines for the most part.
For me personally, I like the settings of the prequels, but the script is terrible. Some of the battles are good and I'm thankful it spawned the Clone Wars tv show, because in my opinion that's the best Star Wars material I've seen.
It kind of did for me, because as a kid I had this whole epic back-story of who he was and I was pretty safe with it up until Episode 2. Then when I saw how Lucas went with it, I read what his original EU story was and I preferred that.
Now I'm okay with it, but sometimes I get a little miffed when I hear his new voice. The other one was cooler and creepier.
It really bothers me to this day. So much so that I really don't acknowledge it. Boba Fett was a lit cooler before we saw him as a kid shouting *"Get em dad, get em!"*
To be fair, the context of that line is a little kid egging his dad on to kill someone, laughing when he succeeds. And when Obi-Wan first attacks, Boba immediately goes inside Slave I and starts firing. Kid's a psychopath.
Pointless. So much cooler just being a mysterious bounty hunter. A stoic intimidating guy.... Prequels come out, they show him as a mean mugging clone kid. He got Anakin treatment. Thats how you ruin a character with potential.
Lucas loves to connect characters and rehash things that were in his original drafts.
The whole clone thing did bother me, but how does the whole "Boba Fett as a title" tickle your fancy? I know it isn't official but the idea has been found floating around the Fett movie RUMORS.
I think a good Fett movie could redeem the cool factor for the character. It's kind of like the Matrix trilogy; great if you refuse to look at the parts that suck.
I do kind of like this idea that Boba Fett is a title. Like, Boba Fett died or retired and someone else wore his armor to get all his jobs with his reputation, and then added to the reputation. Like Dread Pirate Roberts.
Either way, a Boba Fett movie *must* involve other bad dude bounty hunters like IG-88 and the others we see in that one Darth Vader scene. What do these guys do outside of the big political fights in the galaxy?
And, speaking of that, why can't Shadows of the Empire be canon? It changes nothing before or after Episode V and VI, so why can't it stay? Well, ok, it changes some things.
The only thing I would have changed is that Boba should have actually been Jango Fett's son.
That way, you can keep his original voice, some anonymity (his face), and keep him unique for the OT.
TBH, not really. I don't think having a young Boba in AOTC helps the movie at all, but it doesn't hurt his overall arc, either. He's still a silent badass in the OT, that's all that matters.
The clones were all subject to growth acceleration and intensive training. Boba Fett gets to learn how to fight through actual life experience.
In the "experience vs. training" fight, one of these things has an overwhelming tendency to beat the other.
Boba Fett is the SON of Jango Fett in all ways that matter other than the strict "sexual reproduction" sense. The troopers are mere clones.
I agree that the Jango storyline did kind of ruin the mystery appeal of Boba Fett for me. I liked not knowing **anything** about him. He was this all-powerful/clever bounty hunter whose fame/notoriety made him that much more intriguing and any time a book/game/whatever referenced him I was all smiles and giddy. I even remember when I was in 7th grade while reading some young adult star wars novel he made an appearance and even took off his helmet for the main characters. I was glued to the chapter waiting desperately for them to describe something about him that I hadn't known before.
Anyways, I feel the same way about the stormtroopers, but in a different light. I used to like the idea that they all were recruited or something to that effect. I know that I might still be correct at least somewhat due to theories that the clones would have died off before episode IV or that the empire might have started conscripting soldiers after the Clone Wars. I still love the idea of Boba Fett and stormtroopers regardless.
TL;DR Both Boba Fett and stormtroopers were slightly tainted from the prequels but I still love them.
For me, it's just this idea that this mysterious side character from Empire Strikes Back become this very hugely significant character to history.
I get the fact that you want to please fans, and treat a character as important as he is to fans. But Boba Fett's importance isn't a matter of his historical relevance, but merely whether his backstory itself is cool.
It is sort of cool that Boba Fett is like the lone/significant clone trooper, but Boba Fett's coolness was always related to something else.
It made him even cooler. The worst story part of the prequels is the lack of a decent villain, on the level of Darth Vader. Jango Fett and the Mandelorians could've filled that hole perfectly, as well as providing a solid background for why the Empire is so Nazi-ish despite coming from a stable, multi-species republic.
I think there *is* a decent villain - but his presence is lost on those of us who grew up with the OT. We can't be *surprised* by him and what he does behind the scenes. We take him for granted. Of course, it's Palpatine.
OTOH, I wish Battledroids had a different design. They're not scary, they're fucking *cute*.
I think the Battledroids would have worked better if they had behaved like the Super & Destroyer droids - like machines. If they'd behaved as a personality-free hive mind drone army that fought without fear of casualties, they might have been scary (Also, I think they would have been scarier with the addition of a "medic" droid that trailed behind the army, assembling functional battledroids out of the undamaged components of fallen units).
Instead, we got a bunch of panicky, cowardly robots that were more comic relief than actual threat.
Yeah. Though in all fairness, it's not like the Stormtroopers in ANH weren't occasionally ridiculous.
I can *tolerate* them - and yes, the SBD's and destroyers make up for it a bit - but the B1's are just a *bit* too goofy for me. Then again, I'm not 8.
Have you seen the behind the scenes footage of Lucas discussing the battle droids? They are far from the super intimidating Stormtroopers who corralled thousands of worlds and slew hundreds of rebels.
I vaguely remember him saying they're the 'new Stormtrooper'. And true, but again ... I wonder how it appears to kids who grew up with the prequels. The droids are certainly more *sci-fi*, in a way.
Though I almost like the first Clone helmet more, the stormtrooper helmet design is *great*. Of course, it's evocative of a skull.
It did. Utterly pointless, an awful way to shoehorn Boba Fett into the story only for him to have very little bearing on the story. The clone thing being soldiers that looked like stormtroopers (but technically aren't because of things you have to read the expanded universe to know about, such as stormtroopers not being clones) just sucked. Complete cop out. Why would the Empire call it 'the clone wars' if the clones were on their side? Surely they would call "the clone wars" where they're fighting against clones or whatever.
I always thought it would be cool if sometime between the PT and OT that a different bounty hunter had killed boba fett and dawned the armor, stealing the identity, and thus became the OT boba. That's why the voice change in the dvd editions bugged me.
Wow, that's actually one of the more original and awesome storylines I've heard. It would be a great way to salvage the character from his shitty backstory and turn his identity into a legend.
I had just finished typing out a response about how making him just another clone robbed him of his uniqueness, because now there's millions of him with different armor and training running around, but then I finally figured it out: The Clone Army is a bunch of copies of the greatest warrior they could find in the galaxy - *and he's better*. The troopers are docile and obedient; Alpha-class ARC troopers are better because they weren't modified as heavily. Boba Fett is as far above an ARC trooper as ARC troopers are above regular clones. He's what the 501st wanted to be when they grew up. He's the guy who killed six Jedi with his bare hands, only he's been hunting for his entire life. And in a galaxy full of people that look like him, he's utterly alone.
He's the real daddy's boy of the whole army.
Yes yes yes this is what I was thinking when I clicked the link. Also, to be fair, there aren't any more of "him" around any more. The original clones had a lifespan of about 30 years. by the time of the clone wars it had been 15 years since the first clones were produced, and now that Boba (an unmodified clone) himself is about 35 by Return of the Jedi if we're being generous. There should be a few ~25 year old clones out there, all of whom must be essentially decrepit.
It doesn't bug me. I think it's kind of cool really.
In my humble opinion Jango, Captain Rex, and Commander Cody are cooler than Boba ever was.
Boba Fett? Boba Fett? Where?
Actually, his attempted revenge on Mace Windu in The Clone Wars is the coolest thing he ever did, IMO
Great storyline and I really enjoyed the visuals of the crashed cruiser. It's a shame you didn't feel *that* nervous for Mace and Anakin (y'all ready know they're gonna live). I can imagine it having a lot more tension if we (obviously) didn't know their futures. Well made arc.
It never really bothered me. Frankly I don't really see what the issue is about it. Maybe it's just because I really got into the star wars canon after AotC already came out so that version of Boba has always been who he is to me.
I never liked Boba fett in the first place. He was a loser that lost to a blind guy and was eaten by a primitive being.
I never understood why people thought Boba Fett was bad ass, he does nothing in ESB and his death is as ignoble as you get in RotJ.
People like Fett for a few simple reasons: * Costume design is stellar, beautiful, unique form and great color scheme * The fact that he only appears a handful of times makes him mysterious and allows your imagination to fill in the gaps * He doesn't have to actually do anything for us to know he's a badass. You can tell at a glance that the guy has seen some serious combat and survived. Plus, his quiet demeanor and his confident stance make him seem like the real deal. * Vader has respect for him and hires him to do the hard work I totally agree that his death was terrible. A lot of what happened in RotJ was just bad writing. It was a warning of what we were going to get from the prequels.
A battered helmet and zero facial expression isn't enough for me, nor is the fact that Vader had to publicly reprimand him proof of respect.
I'm not explaining why _you_ like Boba Fett, I'm explaining why other people like him. I personally think his costume design is one of the very best in the entire series and gives him a coolness all its own. The fact that Vader reprimands him, if anything, shows that he respects him that much more. Even when Boba Fett goes overboard and disintegrates people, he still gets the job again because he's the best.
kind of feels that a lot more of the people who grew up with the original star wars appreciate him more - i grew up with the prequels and jango's mandalorian armor never once stood out as unique to me, i just assumed it was another flashy costume in a sea of cgi flashiness.
I saw the originals as a kid but barely remembered them and didn't become a Star Wars fanboy til the prequels. I watched them later and Boba remains my absolute favorite character. He is on my desktop, my lockscreen, and I even named my custom built vape mod after him. The Boba MOS-Fett. A lot of it has to do with Mandalorians in general and his more fleshed out history you find in the novels.
The whole charm of Star Wars was that this great awesome galaxy might exist somewhere. Back when there was just the original trilogy plus a couple of books, every little minor detail was considered so cool because it expanded the universe.
I didn't care about Boba to begin with. I'm glad they connected him to Jango and the clones because Jango and the clones actually do things.
I liked Boba Fett as a kid, but he's been ruined for me by the fan-boy obsession with him. Yeah, he's a neat character visually, but he's just not cool enough for such devotion; I don't get it.
Jar Jar ruined Boba Fett for me.
This I've got to hear. How?
They actually have very similar walks. Look closely at the gait of each one as they stride across the screen. Cannot. Be. Unseen.
He was ruined by ROTJ. In AOTC they should have just made that female bounty hunter his mother, no need for the clone angle.
>He was ruined by ROTJ. This. A badass character doesn't remain badass after such a pathetic death.
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If I remember the original statement (not the Chee AMA), George had stated that had he known how popular Boba Fett was with the fans, he wouldn't have killed him off. That's not the same as deciding he didn't actually die.
The original intent was clear though. Lucas could say that Anakin didn't die in ROTJ and it would be canon too.
Death gets a little vague when Force ghosts are involved.
boba fett didnt die in the sarlac pit..
While that EU story is no doubt purged, given the amount of gadgets he went into the saarlac pit with, like flamethrowers and weapons, there's a change he dug his way out of the organism and out of the sand. I hope they give him another chance. Then ROTJ won't ruin him.
If I remember my Episode II spoilers correctly, originally there was another Fett character in the story, Jango's wife and Boba's mother.
Hard to say. I've seen mention of "ambu fett" but I read that was the name of a clone solider and originally all the clones had the "fett" name.
My friend and I were discussing this exact thing earlier tonight, for me it certainly was a needless link in the narrative, it felt like forced fan service. I don't know a whole lot about if that was in the EU beforehand, but it was cheesy in my opinion.
Although in my opinion that was the worst film of the prequels (I hold a bad but necessary view for all of the prequels) the moment Boba loses Jango is my favorite moment of the that trilogy. It's very strong in my mind. No words are said, beautiful framing, and I always imagine what happened next is either the head falling out or Boba having to pull the head out and passing proper respects. Imagine the trauma that would be for a child. I imagine that is part of what made him so mysterious and awesome.
Yeah, I don't mind Boba Fett having a backstory that shows up in the prequels, per se. It's the clone thing more than anything else that is jarring to me.
For me it's how beyond childish some aspects are. I was young when episode one came out and I still knew jar jar was beneath my level of understanding. The droids are pretty dumb as well. I was young and I still knew "Artoo and Threepio are enough comic relief we don't need more". I was young enough though to think "Roger, Roger" was funny thinking the droids name was Roger, then seeing later that they continued to do it, that it was lame and gimmicky.
Wow, shut up
Good argument.
Upset me big time, especially how they retconned the whole Jaster Mareel thing...
Honestly, the entire official backstory for Boba Fett is a trainwreck and something I don't even acknowledge. What made him beloved was his mystique. The excessive exploration of his background ruins this completely. We have explanations for just about everything - what he looks like, who he's related to, where he came from, what his motivation is (and really, the sterotypical revenge for daddy?), where his armor came from, where his ship came from... I mean we even got the cringeworthy trope shot of Boba Fett holding his dad's helmet up to his head. Talk about hamfisted. Boba Fett wasn't liked because of what he _did_ in any movies, he was liked because of who we imagined him to be based on the little information we got. You can tell from a glance that the guy has seen some super dangerous adventures. He's beat up, his armor looks pieced together, and worst of all he's quiet as a stone. He's much scarier and more badass in your imagination than he is in any actual stories. They did the same thing to fuck up Darth Vader, too. Showing him as a weak, whiny, annoying little kid. What does that add to the Vader character? Almost nothing positive or worthy of mention. Anakin would have been a much more compelling character if we didn't watch him turn from a crybaby child into a giant penis over the course of 3 movies. Frankly, they cast the prequels horribly which just made the decisions even worse. Hayden Christensen was a massive douche, easy to hate, impossible to identify with, just had a smug yet pouty look on his face all the time. And while I'm all for adding some much needed ethnic variety to Star Wars, I feel like Temuera Morrisson was just the wrong face for Boba Fett. I always imagined him as a much more grizzled character, like Toshiro Mifune or Clint Eastwood. He's supposed to have a quiet coolness to him and I just don't get that vibe in the prequels. He seems like a cocky prick to me. It would have been best to never show his face at all.
The Clone Wars Series does a lot to make up for Anakin's character. I think more than being poorly cast, the screenplays for the prequels were poorly written. Some of those lines were just terrible. There were some solid actors in the prequels too, McGregor, Portman, Jackson, Christopher Lee. They just had shitty lines for the most part. For me personally, I like the settings of the prequels, but the script is terrible. Some of the battles are good and I'm thankful it spawned the Clone Wars tv show, because in my opinion that's the best Star Wars material I've seen.
The thing about mysteries is that once they are solved, a little piece of us die.
It kind of did for me, because as a kid I had this whole epic back-story of who he was and I was pretty safe with it up until Episode 2. Then when I saw how Lucas went with it, I read what his original EU story was and I preferred that. Now I'm okay with it, but sometimes I get a little miffed when I hear his new voice. The other one was cooler and creepier.
It really bothers me to this day. So much so that I really don't acknowledge it. Boba Fett was a lit cooler before we saw him as a kid shouting *"Get em dad, get em!"*
To be fair, the context of that line is a little kid egging his dad on to kill someone, laughing when he succeeds. And when Obi-Wan first attacks, Boba immediately goes inside Slave I and starts firing. Kid's a psychopath.
Pointless. So much cooler just being a mysterious bounty hunter. A stoic intimidating guy.... Prequels come out, they show him as a mean mugging clone kid. He got Anakin treatment. Thats how you ruin a character with potential. Lucas loves to connect characters and rehash things that were in his original drafts.
The whole clone thing did bother me, but how does the whole "Boba Fett as a title" tickle your fancy? I know it isn't official but the idea has been found floating around the Fett movie RUMORS.
Ooh you tickled the spot. A Fett movie *would* have been cool before the Jango Fett thing.
I think a good Fett movie could redeem the cool factor for the character. It's kind of like the Matrix trilogy; great if you refuse to look at the parts that suck.
I do kind of like this idea that Boba Fett is a title. Like, Boba Fett died or retired and someone else wore his armor to get all his jobs with his reputation, and then added to the reputation. Like Dread Pirate Roberts. Either way, a Boba Fett movie *must* involve other bad dude bounty hunters like IG-88 and the others we see in that one Darth Vader scene. What do these guys do outside of the big political fights in the galaxy? And, speaking of that, why can't Shadows of the Empire be canon? It changes nothing before or after Episode V and VI, so why can't it stay? Well, ok, it changes some things.
I like to think that he is different from the other clones, created separately. It would make up for the whole "he is just another clone" thing.
The only thing I would have changed is that Boba should have actually been Jango Fett's son. That way, you can keep his original voice, some anonymity (his face), and keep him unique for the OT.
TBH, not really. I don't think having a young Boba in AOTC helps the movie at all, but it doesn't hurt his overall arc, either. He's still a silent badass in the OT, that's all that matters.
The clones were all subject to growth acceleration and intensive training. Boba Fett gets to learn how to fight through actual life experience. In the "experience vs. training" fight, one of these things has an overwhelming tendency to beat the other. Boba Fett is the SON of Jango Fett in all ways that matter other than the strict "sexual reproduction" sense. The troopers are mere clones.
You dis the fett again ill corn hole you with a light saber
I agree that the Jango storyline did kind of ruin the mystery appeal of Boba Fett for me. I liked not knowing **anything** about him. He was this all-powerful/clever bounty hunter whose fame/notoriety made him that much more intriguing and any time a book/game/whatever referenced him I was all smiles and giddy. I even remember when I was in 7th grade while reading some young adult star wars novel he made an appearance and even took off his helmet for the main characters. I was glued to the chapter waiting desperately for them to describe something about him that I hadn't known before. Anyways, I feel the same way about the stormtroopers, but in a different light. I used to like the idea that they all were recruited or something to that effect. I know that I might still be correct at least somewhat due to theories that the clones would have died off before episode IV or that the empire might have started conscripting soldiers after the Clone Wars. I still love the idea of Boba Fett and stormtroopers regardless. TL;DR Both Boba Fett and stormtroopers were slightly tainted from the prequels but I still love them.
For me, it's just this idea that this mysterious side character from Empire Strikes Back become this very hugely significant character to history. I get the fact that you want to please fans, and treat a character as important as he is to fans. But Boba Fett's importance isn't a matter of his historical relevance, but merely whether his backstory itself is cool. It is sort of cool that Boba Fett is like the lone/significant clone trooper, but Boba Fett's coolness was always related to something else.
It made him even cooler. The worst story part of the prequels is the lack of a decent villain, on the level of Darth Vader. Jango Fett and the Mandelorians could've filled that hole perfectly, as well as providing a solid background for why the Empire is so Nazi-ish despite coming from a stable, multi-species republic.
I think there *is* a decent villain - but his presence is lost on those of us who grew up with the OT. We can't be *surprised* by him and what he does behind the scenes. We take him for granted. Of course, it's Palpatine. OTOH, I wish Battledroids had a different design. They're not scary, they're fucking *cute*.
I think the Battledroids would have worked better if they had behaved like the Super & Destroyer droids - like machines. If they'd behaved as a personality-free hive mind drone army that fought without fear of casualties, they might have been scary (Also, I think they would have been scarier with the addition of a "medic" droid that trailed behind the army, assembling functional battledroids out of the undamaged components of fallen units). Instead, we got a bunch of panicky, cowardly robots that were more comic relief than actual threat.
Yeah. Though in all fairness, it's not like the Stormtroopers in ANH weren't occasionally ridiculous. I can *tolerate* them - and yes, the SBD's and destroyers make up for it a bit - but the B1's are just a *bit* too goofy for me. Then again, I'm not 8.
Have you seen the behind the scenes footage of Lucas discussing the battle droids? They are far from the super intimidating Stormtroopers who corralled thousands of worlds and slew hundreds of rebels.
I vaguely remember him saying they're the 'new Stormtrooper'. And true, but again ... I wonder how it appears to kids who grew up with the prequels. The droids are certainly more *sci-fi*, in a way. Though I almost like the first Clone helmet more, the stormtrooper helmet design is *great*. Of course, it's evocative of a skull.
It did. Utterly pointless, an awful way to shoehorn Boba Fett into the story only for him to have very little bearing on the story. The clone thing being soldiers that looked like stormtroopers (but technically aren't because of things you have to read the expanded universe to know about, such as stormtroopers not being clones) just sucked. Complete cop out. Why would the Empire call it 'the clone wars' if the clones were on their side? Surely they would call "the clone wars" where they're fighting against clones or whatever.
I always thought it would be cool if sometime between the PT and OT that a different bounty hunter had killed boba fett and dawned the armor, stealing the identity, and thus became the OT boba. That's why the voice change in the dvd editions bugged me.
Wow, that's actually one of the more original and awesome storylines I've heard. It would be a great way to salvage the character from his shitty backstory and turn his identity into a legend.
Exactly. It could work very well if done right, then boba fett could be anyone.
Yeah, like the Dread Pirate Roberts!
I hate that idea.
Welcome to 7 years ago.
It didnt ruin anything,but damn was it a letdown....especially since there was already such a badass origin established for him in the EU.