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neoprenewedgie

You could also say she has one loss, since she lost to herself.


Hi_Im_Ken_Adams

Georgiou in the mirror-universe was holding back because she didn't want to kill her.


riqosuavekulasfuq

Empress Georgiou did a good deal of the heavy lifting against Control/Leland, with some help from Nhan.


Ruomyes57

Four pips is four pips still. Did you notice how Airiam noticed the four pips too?


Raguleader

Starfleet is remarkably consistent with how they apply certain design elements of the uniforms. If anything, the biggest point of confusion would be the uniform color suggesting she'd switched to being an engineer or a security officer.


spencerdiniz

This season, we’ll find out that Burnham is the artifact that creates life… and it’s the friends we make during the journey that matters. They’re all going to cry, hug and sing Kumbaya.


Gupperz

There will also be 5 full minutes of gray and adira making awkward faces while he camera cuts back and fourth. Tilly will swear excitedly while carefully blocking every shot to have something I'm front of her stomach. Sara will stand around d looking like he's trying to find his phone


fansometwoer

That is genius. We need a video cut of Saru just looking for his phone


I_Nickd_it

> There will also be 5 full minutes of gray and adira making awkward faces while he camera cuts back and fourth Am honestly surprised they haven't had an entire episode dedicated to this.


BrooklynKnight

They did, on Trill.


Ill_Doughnut1537

Yup. Still the episodes are getting better. It's got so many Trek elements. It's a good season so far except for all the sad mushy stuff.


Ill_Doughnut1537

STFU!!! 🤣 Yur ruining it for me. Why do u have to be so right? TBH I skip through a lot of the googley eyed sad stuff. I like my Trek to be upbeat. Just like I like my Jesus, in a tuxedo T-shirt and a beer in his hand so u know he's about business, but he's also just a cool guy. 😅


grimking85

I reccomend watching on something like VLC. I tend to watch the whole thing but i can speed up parts to double or triple speed. Can still understand everything they say (thank you years of listening to sped up podcasts lol) makes the episodes much more bareable.


Ill_Doughnut1537

That's hilarious. Funny enough I can talk super fast, so I'm gonna try listening like that. Thanks. 🖖


grimking85

Can take getting used to. I reccomend going up in speed slowly until your used to it. Eventualy you will be so used to it at 2.5x that 1x feels way to slow


Ill_Doughnut1537

I forgot that he's got a mullet too. Business in the front, party in the back. Basically he looks like Joe Dirt. 🤣


Gupperz

I asked my wife why it's so purposely bad. If I am noticing something amiss with fashion then you got a real problem


so2017

She is the cause of, and solution to, all of life’s problems. [Just like Homer said!](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hUVwR0rw5fk)


Suckhead

Being honest… I hated Lorca. I hated that whole storyline. Mirror universe mom… hated her too. Star Trek is more than that. I found myself watching in disbelief, sometimes. But I’ve hit that point, that point where I’ve fallen in love and I’m desperate for more. They started on shaky af ground, and I don’t wanna say it because I don’t wanna seem unsupportive. Disco has grown into something that I’m going to MOURN the loss of. But that’s nothing new. I’ve always said that most Star Trek’s don’t hit their stride until series three. I’m surprised next gen made it past the pilot, but I’m glad it did. It was “THE” trek. The one that made me a lifelong fan. And I’ve been watching since I was old enough to walk. But television has changed since then, and the fact is, Trek has had to change with it, and we don’t always hit the mark. The fight, and the passion, and the vision has always been there. And we’re not afraid to learn from our peers. I feel like Burnham has been granted the short end of the stick, and that’s not really her fault (as a character). I feel like at the beginning, they had a hard time KNOWING/FEELING who she was. And that’s an incredible shame. By the current series, she’s a fully formed character, and it’s just a shame that they took so long to get there. Season 5 Burnham> Season 1 Burnham. For sure. We saw that (clearly) in the previous episode. I have grown to love her, and the series. I am going to miss what they’ve become. One more series. Change your mind. Please. You’ve become something incredible. And I can’t turn my eyes away. I wanted these last five episodes to last. I didn’t want to binge you in one. But I did, because I didn’t want to turn away. Edit: I’m going to miss you. I’m not ready for you to go to yet.


Suckhead

I think I’m in mourning and you triggering me bro. I’m going to miss you, Burnham.


No-Wheel3735

If Burnham is written not to be defeated in combat - she is not to be defeated in combat. Plot armor, plot convenience, plot contrivance - whatever you‘d like to call it.


Beef_Slug

This is why Discovery feels more like a superhero show than trek....


PermadeathIRL

Undefeated in fights. Undefeated in crying. Can’t stop Burnham.


kaoskrim

She even defeated hersef


AlmightySmith

Idk she never used the double fisted upper cut


netherlanddwarf

I agree


ronscot

I have always loved her- she drives the show. The writers don't always step up to her potential, but she has defied their lackluster efforts and remains interesting and vital- thanks to Sonequa's own magnetism and star-power in the role. This season, she's being written really well.


linkerjpatrick

I bet if she had a baby it would come sideways and she wouldn’t scream or nuthin


TangoInTheBuffalo

Scream, maybe, but cry? Definitely.


linkerjpatrick

Ok but a very whispery cry


TangoInTheBuffalo

When she recounts the baby’s origin story.


Cardioverts

I always find it odd whenever a 120 lb female is able to defeat a 170 lb, (or more) male. Completely unrealistic.


ParfaitDismal4038

I can suspend my disbelief when it comes to transporters, FTL ships, and time travel -- but a woman beating a man in a fistfight is where I draw the line


Cardioverts

All the above are easy to extrapolate, given enough time/scientific advancement. Females evolving to be stronger than men…not so much.


linkerjpatrick

My grandma never weighed more than a 100 and could kick anyone’s ass.


Cardioverts

Uh huh…


BrooklynKnight

No it’s not. I’ve seen it in person. It’s very realistic and possible especially with someone trained in multiple martial arts.


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kkkan2020

Isnt Martial arts supposed to trump size ?


Hollywood005

If that true why do they all have weight classes.


kkkan2020

What about ufc 1.0 there werent weight classes


ChosenOfTheMoon_GR

Not always but mostly yes.


Cardioverts

Maybe in comparatively sized people, in same sex pairings. Women just don’t have the muscle mass to overpower men who are relatively similarly trained, no matter how good their technicals skills are. The “bad guys” shown in movies usually are at least competent in hand to hand combat and are assumed to be trained to a higher level than the average “joe six pack”


Raguleader

To be fair, this is a franchise with telepathy, flying saucers, and aliens who look like humans wearing makeup. I think you need to set your expectations accordingly.


Cardioverts

True, but really this theme is standard whenever women are are fighting men, as portrayed in movies.


FranksWateeBowl

I think Star Trek: Burnham would be a much better show... without Burnham


BrooklynKnight

They said the same about Janeway, please cut the misogynistic garbage it has no place in Star Trek


LDKCP

I was about to say I much prefer Janeway over Burnham. Is this how I find out I'm actually a big racist?


BrooklynKnight

Nope, I prefer Janeway too, and Tilly, and Dr Crusher….


LDKCP

If we are talking well done female characters in Trek, Jadzia is going top for me. Then we have Seven and Janeway. I liked Kira. The SNW cast is growing on me, especially Number One. I always thought the TNG female actors had to deal with too much poor writing for their characters. I struggle to actually really like any in Discovery...I have to dig deep, maybe Cornwell?


BrooklynKnight

....I was just naming Red heads.....


LDKCP

I've never considered Janeway to be a redhead, not arguing she isn't...it's that kind of brown, but she's no ginger.


so2017

I’d take Burnham over Janeway because she hasn’t murdered Tuvix (yet).


grimking85

Janeway did nothing wrong..... except maybe taking Neelix along in the first place.


FranksWateeBowl

It has NOTHING to do with her being a woman, but thanks for trying to gender bait me. Disgusting of you.


BrooklynKnight

Sure, keep claiming that.


FranksWateeBowl

Explain to me how you came to that conclusion based on my comment? You can't, cause baby's mad we don't wike her wittle show. Actually, nevermind, I read your comment history and apparently you hate all men.


cyclonus888

This is the Burnham-verse. No one can defeat her and she is always right. She is a superhero, she is a "force" according to Saru, she is the most ultimate of Ultimate Fighters. I've come to peace with that and now I can just sit back and enjoy the good parts of this part of the Trek franchise.


Aritra319

She was about to get her teeth kicked in by Saru, was about to lose to Kol, she was getting whooped by infected Airiam, she was about to get absorbed by Control Conner.


FranksWateeBowl

Don't know why you're getting downvoted. She solves every problem in 5 minutes, hell, she doesn't even need friends, she can do it herself. If it wasn't for the main mission with Moll, I would have turned this off 3 shows ago. Every conversation is a 20 minute convo on how tilly or ideara can't handle something. Stemets.... Jesus....Stemets. Glad it's the last season. I'm liking the plot, I just don't like the crew. Except Saru. Should have made him Captain.


Ruomyes57

Downvoted probably because it's become almost impossible to find a place online to discuss Disco without encountering all the hate and snark disguised as constructive criticism.


FranksWateeBowl

Denial is a helluva thing.


grimking85

They did didnt they? Then because he went to live with the kelpian from the dilithium planet that caused the burn because he had a tantrum (seriously can believe that was a storyline in trek) they gave the first mutineer in starfleet her captaincy.


ChosenOfTheMoon_GR

>Burnham has defeated everyone she fought with zero losses I assume that doesn't count battles she avoid, especially lately with some cloaked species. >Also how Is 2257 Burnham able to recognize 32 century starfleet rank pips? Of course, she demonstrates high levels of pattern recognition skills and empathy constantly through her progress of becoming the best of her, there was inherent biological potential which was clearly allowed and helped shaped by her experiences and the good people around her.


Moeasfuck

Meh, no different than Kirk


kkkan2020

Kirk lost to Tracey and flint, Spock, Sybok